Jones didn't take roids, the only claim he ever did was from Richard Hall who also tested positive for them as well ahead of their fight and both did another test and it was a negative. If Roy was on roids in his prime he would never of been able to move as fast as it hardens the muscle mass and he would of been sparked out like he does as an old man today.
@DrHulk1987 also reggie and some other no1 ranked fighters. the only fighter i wish roy had fought was nigel benn, benn was really up for it, tho tbh at that tiem benn was past his best and at SMW his punches lost some steam so can;t see him beating roy.
Calzaghe is a douche. Is he a good fighter? Yes, of course. But his resume isn't very good when you break it down, and I don't think he constitutes as an ATG at all. His best win is over B-Hop, which he barely won. Then what? Roy, who was completely shot? Kessler? Lacy? Those are his best wins, and they do not qualify as being overly impressive. He never fought a great fighter in their prime.
Ok if it is all about age and out of "Prime" how does this workout.
Kelly Pavlik beat Jermain Taylor twice!
Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins twice!
After the Calzaghe fight Hopkins went on to School Pavlik in their fight!!!
Oh yeah Pavlik was unbeaten too. Now Hopkins is fighting a rematch with Jean Pascal for the WBC Strap. You haters need to stop pulling the Age and Prime card its getting boring.
Alot of yanks are saying that calzaghe boxed jones and hopkins out of their prime,calzaghe was old when he boxed them too.Even so ,when calzaghe was younger jones or b hop wouldnt have boxed him, because they had never heard of him and there would be no economical value for them because they werent going to fight away from America calzaghe beat them in their back garden and B hop is still in top winning his fights, quite recently against pascal.
@thomasjervis1989 Yeah you are completly right! Joe was 35 and Jones was 39 so both were out of their prime!
Jones nor Hopkins wanted to fight Joe back in the day otherwise they would have fought him,simple as that. Joe's camp tried to set up a fight with hopkins years ago but he kept stalling on the contract with crazy demands!
@DI88ER thing is tho joe had shown no signs od decline where as roy CLEARLY had. joe even said Roy was a " a shadow of his former self" in his book.
and also are you aware that joe turnt down a fight with roy just after roy went up to lhw?
i don;t know about the hopkins stuff so won;t comment. but kind in mind that joe was not aname in the US at aLL back then. so would have been no money in the fight
@thomasjervis1989 I'm a "yank" as you put it and I agree with you. Calzaghe actually fought hopkins in his 1 from last fight at the end of his career. Hopkins is still boxing to this day so he was not near the end when he fought Joe. Hopkins is a racist and fantasist who pretended to be hit low against Joe to buy time and then has the nerve to say he got robbed. I believe Hopkins is a great fight and that makes Joe maybe one of the best ever!
@DrHulk1987 I think calling him a cowards a bit dishonest though. GreedyZaghe, or Tryingtobulkuphisboxingrecordzaghe are more 'fair'.
He didn't refuse a rematch out of fear or inability, but because he wanted to beat Jones in a big money fight and go out on a high. Fighting an over the hill spoiler in Hopkins for a second time, nobody but Bernard die hards want to see it. It'd be Calzaghe chasing Hopkins around the ring for 12, absolutely boring.
@DrHulk1987 It's a fair point, but you still have to concede RJJs record is poor.
RJJ was without question one of the most entertaining fighters in history, but he also went around fighting nobodies much like Calzaghe. And much like Calzaghe he had too much talent and form to justify fighting the nobodies he did fight.
Hopkins I genuinely believe is one of the most over rated boxers in recent history, even in prime, but that's for another time.
@evol121 It was, but really not by much. My point wasn't really that one has a better record than the other, but that if you want to be honest they both have very very poor records considering their ability.
Both spent the vast majority of their career taking the easy fight against nobodies
@DrHulk1987 You're saying Eubanks was soft hitting? Out of his prime no doubt, but he still had a fucking punch.
RJJs record is over rated. That's what's funny about RJJ fans putting down Calzaghes career, go and actually look at Roys. It's just as 'bad'(granted you're argueing Calzaghes is bad).
They both had 1 or 2 fights against token great fighters, and the rest of their career was spent fighting bums or over the hill has beens.
@BigAmzz joe would destroy froch, fairplay he beat abraham but then again abraham didnt look to start fighting until the 12th and that was only for a minute
@BigAmzz YOU obviously dont no boxing. he beat abraham and now you think hes the dog bollocks? dont think so. joes chin has been tested many times and its still solid so i dont think froch would knock him out, and joe would just out box that ugly fuck.
@agt155 BITCH PLEASE!!!!!! you cant take the strap from the champ by holding, running complaining and spoiling....you have to win a world title not try and steal it...
@agt155 i said it was debatable...some people think hopkins did enough in the first half of the fight (including the knockdown) to nick the win....either way it was very close...
He's been protected indeed (like every people's champion...), but he didn't dodge nobody. He lived on the other side of the Atlantic, regarding to where the "boxing that matters" is made... It's more difficult for a European to reach a legendary status early in his age due to living far from USA...
That's why Joe had to wait a lot to be able to fight the top notch fighters... And he regreted that a lot, because he could have been even greater. But he reached greatness anyway.
@whitepowerboyz History is now showing that Calzaghe was a 1 off great and Jones and delahoya never fought the best and were overhyped. Guess you got this wrong!
@boxinggreatness Haha, you idiot. Calzaghe fought an old semi-retired Eubank and an old semi-retired Hopkins.
De La Hoya got robbed in half of his losses, but he made it a point to fight all the biggest fights possible.
Calzaghe did the ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE with his career. He made it a point to constantly and consistently pull out of the biggest fights, even tried ducking the Lacy fight, ducked Johnson 3 times. His record is empty and shitty. Calzaghe is a bum.
@pearcemark2 hahahahahaha joe fought hopkins in his last fight after having years of broken hands and being past his best. Hopkins is still faking injuries to this day, how is that semi retired, what an absolute joke, you are hilarious! I wouldnt bring up the lacey fight if i were you, he like all the others were humiliated by joe. To be the best you have to be the best, nobody beat joe period. This isnt even opinion just hard cold facts. Go back to watching trasvestite delahoya!
@pearcemark2 you are right it was his one from last fight. but Im not a joe fan, just a guy with a brain. The entire world knows joe was one of the greatest fighters period, the only problem was, he wasnt born over here. If he had been american he would have been bigger than ray leonard. Jones did really well in australia but they way..finally leaves the states and ..oh shame about that knock out to a nobody...hahahahahahahaha
@boxinggreatness HAHAHA you complete faggot retard, you say you have a brain but then cite a Roy Jones fight 6 years after Jones was worth a shit, after he had been KO'd twice in america and lost 3 in a row in america.
@boxinggreatness By the way, how did Danny do against Tarver a few months back? That australian bum thought he'd pull a Calzaghe and beat a couple washed up 40 year olds and have retards like you cumming over how great he is
Too bad Tarver had to school him and knock him the fuck out to end those plans.
@pearcemark2 A "hypejob" is a personal judgement , at the end of the day you are still insulting a good man.
Do you actually think for 1 moment he walked into an office and said "lets con people out of their money because I am a shit boxer but I will climb into the ring anyway to con people"?
@LogicalStatements1 Calzaghe had the option to leave his shitty management team and stop fighting unknwon C level fighters. He could have left Frank Warren and came to america earlier to prove himself against the best.
He had NO interest. He wanted Hopkins to fly to Wales in 2002 because Joe was "scared of flying". Joe admitted he wanted no part of Roy Jones because he "knew his limits" and would only take the fight "for the crown jewels".
If HBO didn't make him, he'd have never come here.
@pearcemark2 It's a business though man , I'm sure if he was offered more money he would have changed, when you only have so many years in your boxing career and so many fights left in you why would you be willing to fight for a smaller pay check, I know the fans get really into it and they like to think their favourite boxers are doing it for the sport and where that may be partly true it's not 100% true, when you are putting ya life on the line you have to think about No1
@LogicalStatements1 Calzaghe would've made far more money in america. He would've gotten more exposure, bigger fights, bigger paychecks, and more respect in boxing history.
Instead, he chose to go the route where he gets little exposure, laughable opponents, decent paychecks, and no respect from 95% of boxing fans outside the UK.
It's fine if you want to call him a B fighter. It's the jerkoffs who pretend he's anywhere near the top 100 boxers of all time who make no sense.
@pearcemark2 You cannot say that for a fact, you are still an outsider to Calzaghes career, you cannot just make things up.
You assume he would make more money but you have no idea and no proof therefore you made that up.
I will close with he is one of MY favourite boxers of all time for he retired undefeated so in MY eyes he is A class all the way , YOU on the other hand can think what ever you like.
@LogicalStatements1 I absolutely can say it, as Calzaghe himself will tell you that he fought bums for 20 years and should've left for the big time much earlier.
I mean fuck, watch any of his fights dating back to 98, EVERY SINGLE FIGHT the commentary team talks about how he's gonna go to america next year, he's gonna move up to light heavy, he's gonna look for the big fights.
What happened? The bum ducked everyone and hid in europe fighting bums in a shallow weight class for 10 more years
@boxinggreatness I'm not being funny but Calzaghe was good yeah... if he fought De La Hoya or Jones in the 90's..... he would have been destroyed pure and simple!!
@carloswotty i dont know what planet you are on but jones jr was known to be a ducker andnever achieved huge popularity over here in the us until the last few years before his second loss. The contract was there for him and hopkins to fight joe and they both refused. De la hoya was a different weight but is the amir khan of the us, olympian with skills but not great. Joe beat anyone and everyone. Our guys never left our shores and expect praise simply because they are american!
Calzaghe is a class act, exciting to watch unlike some of the shite about (e.g. Hopkins) anybody who slates him is jealous because he is a success, and they are just on here because there life is boring working in a office and having a onesome with themselves every night
@twentyzed well you have good points but either way i would still cosider him a star almost being a superstar but long way from a legend but yeah he is one of the best british boxer actually with his record he is the best british idk
@DI88ER what people dont get is that he fought jones out of his prime jones would have killed joe so badly joe couldnt ko jones im just sayin also b hop he was old too and i knew why joe won againts lacy cause joe was holding lacys left hand thats all couldn't even knock him out he should of fought winky wright he would get murdered or james toney,so thats why his not considered the best he fighter
not gonna argue that joe's undefeated, however, i wish that just once i could have seen someone knock him the fuck out, I hate arrogance, especially when Joe's fights weren't even remotely entertaining.
i agree with you totally the mans a fraud ...unbeaten career spanning over a decade and has only earned 10mil total purse thats due to fighting hand picked douchebags and old time greats well past it.
I love it how people always try to things away from joe. He beat hopkins and he destroyed jones and that all there is to say about it.
he also destroyed lacy who was meant to be the new mike tyson of the middleweights. And he was derfinitly in his prime when joe smashed him! How could I forget about kessler the unbeaten dane who joe beat. unanimously. and nobody can say he wasnt in his prime either.
What people need to realise is that joe has had a perfect career and went out on top
We live in dark times, and people have become so numb that they can't even tell a champion from a bum... They're so fed up with Rocky and De Niro movies, that they think boxing is something between Capoeira and Marvel Comics fights.
Notice all the people calling "Gayweather" one of the greatest p4p boxers of his era...
"Gayweather", "Cowardzaghe"... We live in a sick world, because thesystem is run by such people I do not even dare to call "men".
Yes, in fact that's pretty much what i've said. I've said: "one of the greatest p4p boxers of his era". Era=generation, it's quite the same thing.
if you don't understand what I've said, I don't care that much, since you don't seem like the smartest guy around. You might also have concentration problems.
@DI88ER u faggot, u need to get off calzaghes dick and face the facts..he controversially beat hopkins in a split-dicision and many believe b-hop won that fight, he beat an over the hill roy jones who only had 2 fights comin back from retirement, we all know jones wud hav smoked calzaghe if they fought when jones was in his prime, he also beat eubank who was past it..the only notable fighter he beat was kessler, who is one dimensional..bika was ok but has no defence...the rest were absolute bums
@DI88ER roy jones was nearly 40....bernard hopkins was 42....when lacy and kessler are the best names on your resume you know you have had a padded career...
@BigAmzz It's a well known fact that hopkins ducked joe for years. So its not Joe's fault he decided to fight him when he had nothing to lose. Same goes for Roy Jones.
@DI88ER LOL!!! Hopkins and Jones were both in their 40's!! Lacy is and ALWAYS HAS BEEN A BUM!! And Kessler is above average at best. Calzaghe fought nobody, beat nobody, and retired a COWARD!
@DI88ER Calzaghe never faced a great fighter in his prime and thus is not considered an elite all time great. His best victory was against Kessler and we all saw how easily he was beaten by Andre Ward. His fights against Hopkins and Jones were against aged, past their prime fighters. Hopkins had lost 2 of his last 4 fights before facing Calzaghe and Jones was as shot as any fighter has ever been when he faced Calzaghe.
@DI88ER sure but the hopkins fight was close. and come on, beating jones at the ponit of his career meant fuck all. roy still dropped him. and lacy.. plz. even most experts thought he was good but not great. which is what joe shoed him to be ( hell a 40 year old jones OWNED lacy to). keessler has been shown to be a 1 geared fighter. apart from that.. who did he beat? and aging eubanks? wow...
@evol121 Yeah granted the Hopkins fight was close there is no doubt about that, but my point is that Hopkins has just won the WBC belt at 46 years of age. So he must still be pretty damn good! When you talk about getting dropped so what most fighters hit the canvas at some point and Joe still came back to win plus I cant remenber Lacy dropping Joe in their fight?!
@evol121 Yeah granted the Hopkins fight was close there is no doubt about that, but my point is that Hopkins has just won the WBC belt at 46 years of age. So he must still be pretty damn good! When you talk about getting dropped so what most fighters hit the canvas at some point and Joe still came back to win plus I cant remenber Lacy dropping Joe in their fight?!
Roy is a legend in the sport but he got beat by Tarver twice and who is Tarver really he hasnt exactly carried the sport.
@DI88ER He lost to Tarver after he destroyed his body coming down from heavyweight.
Gaining and losing a lot of weight is TERRIBLE for your body. People who yo-yo diet and do it with fat are doing bad enough to their body. Roy did it with all muscle, which is 10 times worse.
Roy fought at 174 against Clinton Woods, put on 20 pounds of muscle and fought John Ruiz at 193 6 months later. Then he sucked all that weight back off to get to 175 against Tarver, 6 months after that.
@pearcemark2 sorry but that is complete rubbish he fought and beat Tarver after he came down from heavyweight. They fought twice after and Roy got owned.
@DI88ER It's not rubbish, idiot. It's exactly what happened. He BARELY beat Tarver in a controversial decision. He looked terrible in the ring, he had no balance, his legs were shaky, his reflexes were noticably much slower. He didn't look like he had any strength. He was tired. At that point, he at least still had his confidence, which allowed him to throw just enough to eek one out. But that was it. Everybody saw he was finished. Calzaghe himself wrote in his book that Roy was washed up.
@DI88ER Calzaghe said he was washed up, a shadow of himself, and an unworthy opponent. His exact words.
Later that year, he GLADLY accepted a fight Roy, and did interviews acting he was fighting prime Roy. It was fucking embarassing and cowardly to retire on that fight.
@pearcemark2 Lol I think your the idiot 117-111 116-112 114-114 isnt squeezing out the win. All im hearing is excuses. He went up in weight in his early 30's and him and Tarver fought over three years that is mlre than enough time to get your body back to what it was. Look at Pac man he is going up and down in weight. Dumbass!!!
@DI88ER When many observers feel he lost the fight and one judge has it a draw, that's a very close win.
Dude, he was at the age where you start to leave your prime already. He took all that weight off and couldn't put it back on because he was an old man, you can't fucking recapture that shit after you massacre yourself.
You embarassing douche, YOUR FUCKING FAGGOT HERO HIMSELF SAID HE WAS COMPLETELY WASHED UP, STOP BEING IN FUCKING DENIAL YOU NIGGER
@pearcemark2 HaHaHa you ahvent got a fucking clue what you are on about. Anderson Silva who fights in mma is 36 years of age walks around at around 220 and cuts down in weight to 185. He does this for every fight!!! Doing that is far more taxing on the body than going up in weight once.
Stop making excuses you fucking inbread redneck cunt!!!!!
@DI88ER Lol at you bringing up the Jones fight. You don't call that a destruction and RJJ was completely shot at that stage of his career. The Hopkins fight was a close, controversial and ugly ugly fight. Joe's best wins are Jeff lacy, who was over hyped and Mikkel Kesslar. The fact that you brought up Jones just shows me you know nothing about boxing
@SmLXXX I thought Calzaghe did enough to deserve his victory over Hopkins. I agree with you that Joe's win over Kessler was a bigger deal though because it was a very convincing win in the end over a fighter that a lot of people thought was going to win by knock out.
@DI88ER you forgot to add that roy jones refused and bernard hopkins refused to fight Joe years earlier according to frank warren and chris eubank who said jones asked him whether or not he should fight joe and chris said he too tough so jones didnt take the fight. When warren was sacked he did the typical backstabbing warren thing of talking joe down but truth is nobody could touch joe. When you watch bute, froch, ward now, you realise how good joe was.
@boxinggreatness I can't see Roy Jones believing Calzaghe was too formidable for him. He didn't believe that before they finally fought so he certainly wouldn't have believed it when he was in his prime. Maybe Jones management thought it wasn't worth the risk though. Jones versus Calzaghe, if it had taken place years earlier would've been a much closer fight than a lot of people realise though. Joe would have had a reasonable chance of winning but Jones would've been a deserving favourite.
@DwiteTheSpriteKnight Nah the best fighters were in Britian those days and Jones fought nobody. Fighters like him, winky wright, delahoya, hopkins were over hyped by hbo and when you look at who they beat it doesnt make good viewing. Jones never left america and after seeing benn put mcclelan in a coma in the UK i think both jones and hbo said no thanks and ran a mile. At their peaks clazaghe was too fast and too durable a fighter. He could adapt to win. Remember jones took steds too!
@boxinggreatness I think Calzaghe would've had a better chance of beating Roy Jones in his prime than anyone else of his era who fought at LHW or below. If Jones had of fought Benn at SMW and Benn had knocked him out that would have surprised me but I wouldn't have looked on in disbelief. It is a shame that we didn't get to see Jones vs Benn and Jones vs Calzaghe. If Calzaghe had, had the opportunity to unify the super middleweight division earlier I think it would have been different.
@boxinggreatness I hadn't previously heard about Jones taking performance enhancing drugs. That certainly muddies the waters. I don't know if he took just enough to heal from an injury faster or much more than that but it certainly tarnishes his rep either way. Apart from that, to remove the need for debates and outdo the UFC, boxing certainly needs a central controlling body so the only way to win and keep a world title is to always fight the best.
@DwiteTheSpriteKnight Yeah I reckon the sanctioning bodies need tougher rules about fighters paying to dodge fighters. Like Pacquaio didnt defend his WBO welterweight title for 14 months because he payed step aside money to fight more lucrative fights. The UFC may seem to pit the best against the best but dana has too much control over who gets pushed and who doesnt which is dangerous as a championship body should be unbias. I got sick of the way silva and evans were treated, even comparing gsp
@DwiteTheSpriteKnight Yeah to Silva was a disgrace. About steroids and enhancements, lesnar was a known steroid junkie in his earlier years so how he is allowed to fight I dont know. He's got the benefits from it now so he and pretty much all the others should be banned.
SIZINGPENYRHEOL lol the serious world class fighters you talk about lol there was two and there were both past it along time ago lol dont say oh bhop beat pavlik n jones beat lacy because they are both seriously overhyoed boxers
if anyone watches the calzaghe vs bika fight they can see why joe didn't do great, he took the piss with it, didn't seem to take it serious, when bika wanted to brawl which was practically the whole fight instead of boxing him up he just brawled back lmao. if anyone wants to watch it n i think its a good watch lemme know n i'll send a link
HBO turned his head for good, he continued to care more about showboating than boxing after the Lacy fight. I liked Calzaghe, but Best of all time? Don't make me laugh. Undefeated means nout if you don't fight anyone worthy. Rant over.
@ellis3210 Only because he avoided better fighters (kelly pavlik, the young jermaine taylor, arthur abraham to name a few) and fought legends in their final days. Even Chad dawson offered to fight him but was refused.
@whitepowerboyz No he won't. I am thinking along the lines of a young Jermain Taylor (way before his losses to Pavlik) or even Andre Ward. I think however Andre Direll would outclass bute and calzaghe this guy just as he did with Froch (though lost the home town decision) and Abraham.
Jones didn't take roids, the only claim he ever did was from Richard Hall who also tested positive for them as well ahead of their fight and both did another test and it was a negative. If Roy was on roids in his prime he would never of been able to move as fast as it hardens the muscle mass and he would of been sparked out like he does as an old man today.
Cuss100 4 months ago
so weird to see a white guy to this kind of stuff. It look so...
randyfletcher86 6 months ago
very true SmL
brasspaw 7 months ago
He fought them all. He beat them all.
citizenfitz 8 months ago
@DrHulk1987 also reggie and some other no1 ranked fighters. the only fighter i wish roy had fought was nigel benn, benn was really up for it, tho tbh at that tiem benn was past his best and at SMW his punches lost some steam so can;t see him beating roy.
evol121 8 months ago
Joe is a GREAT Fighter period!
Tex200950 8 months ago
Calzaghe is a douche. Is he a good fighter? Yes, of course. But his resume isn't very good when you break it down, and I don't think he constitutes as an ATG at all. His best win is over B-Hop, which he barely won. Then what? Roy, who was completely shot? Kessler? Lacy? Those are his best wins, and they do not qualify as being overly impressive. He never fought a great fighter in their prime.
PureBoxerP4P 9 months ago
Ok if it is all about age and out of "Prime" how does this workout.
Kelly Pavlik beat Jermain Taylor twice!
Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins twice!
After the Calzaghe fight Hopkins went on to School Pavlik in their fight!!!
Oh yeah Pavlik was unbeaten too. Now Hopkins is fighting a rematch with Jean Pascal for the WBC Strap. You haters need to stop pulling the Age and Prime card its getting boring.
DI88ER 9 months ago
Alot of yanks are saying that calzaghe boxed jones and hopkins out of their prime,calzaghe was old when he boxed them too.Even so ,when calzaghe was younger jones or b hop wouldnt have boxed him, because they had never heard of him and there would be no economical value for them because they werent going to fight away from America calzaghe beat them in their back garden and B hop is still in top winning his fights, quite recently against pascal.
thomasjervis1989 9 months ago 2
@thomasjervis1989 Yeah you are completly right! Joe was 35 and Jones was 39 so both were out of their prime!
Jones nor Hopkins wanted to fight Joe back in the day otherwise they would have fought him,simple as that. Joe's camp tried to set up a fight with hopkins years ago but he kept stalling on the contract with crazy demands!
DI88ER 9 months ago
@DI88ER thing is tho joe had shown no signs od decline where as roy CLEARLY had. joe even said Roy was a " a shadow of his former self" in his book.
and also are you aware that joe turnt down a fight with roy just after roy went up to lhw?
i don;t know about the hopkins stuff so won;t comment. but kind in mind that joe was not aname in the US at aLL back then. so would have been no money in the fight
evol121 8 months ago
@thomasjervis1989 I'm a "yank" as you put it and I agree with you. Calzaghe actually fought hopkins in his 1 from last fight at the end of his career. Hopkins is still boxing to this day so he was not near the end when he fought Joe. Hopkins is a racist and fantasist who pretended to be hit low against Joe to buy time and then has the nerve to say he got robbed. I believe Hopkins is a great fight and that makes Joe maybe one of the best ever!
boxinggreatness 5 months ago
@DrHulk1987 I think calling him a cowards a bit dishonest though. GreedyZaghe, or Tryingtobulkuphisboxingrecordzaghe are more 'fair'.
He didn't refuse a rematch out of fear or inability, but because he wanted to beat Jones in a big money fight and go out on a high. Fighting an over the hill spoiler in Hopkins for a second time, nobody but Bernard die hards want to see it. It'd be Calzaghe chasing Hopkins around the ring for 12, absolutely boring.
z0mgrugbyreturns 11 months ago
@DrHulk1987 It's a fair point, but you still have to concede RJJs record is poor.
RJJ was without question one of the most entertaining fighters in history, but he also went around fighting nobodies much like Calzaghe. And much like Calzaghe he had too much talent and form to justify fighting the nobodies he did fight.
Hopkins I genuinely believe is one of the most over rated boxers in recent history, even in prime, but that's for another time.
z0mgrugbyreturns 11 months ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns roy record is better than joes simply becuz of toney and the fact that he went up to HW imo. which joe could NEVER have done.
evol121 8 months ago
@evol121 It was, but really not by much. My point wasn't really that one has a better record than the other, but that if you want to be honest they both have very very poor records considering their ability.
Both spent the vast majority of their career taking the easy fight against nobodies
z0mgrugbyreturns 8 months ago
@DrHulk1987 You're saying Eubanks was soft hitting? Out of his prime no doubt, but he still had a fucking punch.
RJJs record is over rated. That's what's funny about RJJ fans putting down Calzaghes career, go and actually look at Roys. It's just as 'bad'(granted you're argueing Calzaghes is bad).
They both had 1 or 2 fights against token great fighters, and the rest of their career was spent fighting bums or over the hill has beens.
And they're both my favourites but be honest.
z0mgrugbyreturns 11 months ago
He sucks
MrTraantoft 1 year ago
calzahge say no more class
stdavid123 1 year ago
that was an awesome dance
morphu22 1 year ago
Calzaghe is an all time great pound for pounder. He defeated Jones Jr, Hopkins, Lacy, Kessler, Bika, and Manfredo!
ECS1978 1 year ago
fuck joe calzaghe tryna copy roy jones jr
xTheMeanBeanx 1 year ago
carl froch now has a better resume then joe calzaghe=fact
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz joe would destroy froch, fairplay he beat abraham but then again abraham didnt look to start fighting until the 12th and that was only for a minute
ellis3210 1 year ago
@ellis3210 you dont know boxing....froch would walk through calzaghe little slaps and knock him the f*ck out!!!
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz YOU obviously dont no boxing. he beat abraham and now you think hes the dog bollocks? dont think so. joes chin has been tested many times and its still solid so i dont think froch would knock him out, and joe would just out box that ugly fuck.
ellis3210 1 year ago
@ellis3210 joe's chin is solid? so thats why he got dropped by roy jones's corpse and old feather fisted bernard hopkins???
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz and got up straight away and went on to fuck them up.
ellis3210 1 year ago
@ellis3210 he didnt fuck b-hop up did he?? alot of people think b-hop won that fight...
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz alot of people are wrong.. b-hop ducked him all fight.
ellis3210 1 year ago
@ellis3210 calzaghe=bumhunter
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz Froch doesn't have a win over anyone near as good as Hopkins, and he didn't beat Kessler.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 its debatable whether calzaghe beat hopkins its also debatable whether kesler beat froch so pretty bad examples there dude...
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz Neither are debatable. Froch's 'win' over Dirrell is a different story.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 BITCH PLEASE!!!!!! you cant take the strap from the champ by holding, running complaining and spoiling....you have to win a world title not try and steal it...
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz Yet you think Hopkins beat Calzaghe.......
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 i said it was debatable...some people think hopkins did enough in the first half of the fight (including the knockdown) to nick the win....either way it was very close...
BigAmzz 1 year ago
i hated his clowning...he looked like a goofball.........
he's just not smooth enoegh.....he aint sugar ray.......
whitepowerboyz 1 year ago
i fukkin hate calzaghe.
i still think hes a goose and dodged alot of fighters.
history will prove to tell he was a protected boxer and a world class bum hole!
whitepowerboyz 1 year ago
@whitepowerboyz
He's been protected indeed (like every people's champion...), but he didn't dodge nobody. He lived on the other side of the Atlantic, regarding to where the "boxing that matters" is made... It's more difficult for a European to reach a legendary status early in his age due to living far from USA...
That's why Joe had to wait a lot to be able to fight the top notch fighters... And he regreted that a lot, because he could have been even greater. But he reached greatness anyway.
ezekielwahwah 1 year ago
@whitepowerboyz History is now showing that Calzaghe was a 1 off great and Jones and delahoya never fought the best and were overhyped. Guess you got this wrong!
boxinggreatness 5 months ago
@boxinggreatness HAHAHAHHA you fucking retard, De La Hoya never fought the best?
I can't FUCKING BELIEVE I'M HEARING THIS FROM A GODDAMN CALZAGHE FAN
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
pearcemark2 5 months ago
@pearcemark2 You are weird Calzaghe actually fought Hopkins and Eubank, delahoya got beat half the times he fought. Jokes on you pal.
boxinggreatness 5 months ago
@boxinggreatness Haha, you idiot. Calzaghe fought an old semi-retired Eubank and an old semi-retired Hopkins.
De La Hoya got robbed in half of his losses, but he made it a point to fight all the biggest fights possible.
Calzaghe did the ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE with his career. He made it a point to constantly and consistently pull out of the biggest fights, even tried ducking the Lacy fight, ducked Johnson 3 times. His record is empty and shitty. Calzaghe is a bum.
pearcemark2 4 months ago
@pearcemark2 hahahahahaha joe fought hopkins in his last fight after having years of broken hands and being past his best. Hopkins is still faking injuries to this day, how is that semi retired, what an absolute joke, you are hilarious! I wouldnt bring up the lacey fight if i were you, he like all the others were humiliated by joe. To be the best you have to be the best, nobody beat joe period. This isnt even opinion just hard cold facts. Go back to watching trasvestite delahoya!
boxinggreatness 4 months ago
@boxinggreatness It wasn't in his last fight, retard.
Joe is a bum, the entire world knows.
pearcemark2 4 months ago
@pearcemark2 you are right it was his one from last fight. but Im not a joe fan, just a guy with a brain. The entire world knows joe was one of the greatest fighters period, the only problem was, he wasnt born over here. If he had been american he would have been bigger than ray leonard. Jones did really well in australia but they way..finally leaves the states and ..oh shame about that knock out to a nobody...hahahahahahahaha
boxinggreatness 4 months ago
@boxinggreatness HAHAHA you complete faggot retard, you say you have a brain but then cite a Roy Jones fight 6 years after Jones was worth a shit, after he had been KO'd twice in america and lost 3 in a row in america.
You bum. You know nothing.
pearcemark2 4 months ago
@boxinggreatness By the way, how did Danny do against Tarver a few months back? That australian bum thought he'd pull a Calzaghe and beat a couple washed up 40 year olds and have retards like you cumming over how great he is
Too bad Tarver had to school him and knock him the fuck out to end those plans.
pearcemark2 4 months ago
@pearcemark2 I have never thought or spoke like you do , why does it make you buzz to insult good people?
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
@LogicalStatements1 Good people aren't fraud hypejobs, and good people don't defend fraud hypejobs.
pearcemark2 2 months ago
Comment removed
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@pearcemark2 A "hypejob" is a personal judgement , at the end of the day you are still insulting a good man.
Do you actually think for 1 moment he walked into an office and said "lets con people out of their money because I am a shit boxer but I will climb into the ring anyway to con people"?
That is how you think, just wow.
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
@LogicalStatements1 Calzaghe had the option to leave his shitty management team and stop fighting unknwon C level fighters. He could have left Frank Warren and came to america earlier to prove himself against the best.
He had NO interest. He wanted Hopkins to fly to Wales in 2002 because Joe was "scared of flying". Joe admitted he wanted no part of Roy Jones because he "knew his limits" and would only take the fight "for the crown jewels".
If HBO didn't make him, he'd have never come here.
pearcemark2 2 months ago
@pearcemark2 It's a business though man , I'm sure if he was offered more money he would have changed, when you only have so many years in your boxing career and so many fights left in you why would you be willing to fight for a smaller pay check, I know the fans get really into it and they like to think their favourite boxers are doing it for the sport and where that may be partly true it's not 100% true, when you are putting ya life on the line you have to think about No1
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
@LogicalStatements1 Calzaghe would've made far more money in america. He would've gotten more exposure, bigger fights, bigger paychecks, and more respect in boxing history.
Instead, he chose to go the route where he gets little exposure, laughable opponents, decent paychecks, and no respect from 95% of boxing fans outside the UK.
It's fine if you want to call him a B fighter. It's the jerkoffs who pretend he's anywhere near the top 100 boxers of all time who make no sense.
pearcemark2 2 months ago
@pearcemark2 You cannot say that for a fact, you are still an outsider to Calzaghes career, you cannot just make things up.
You assume he would make more money but you have no idea and no proof therefore you made that up.
I will close with he is one of MY favourite boxers of all time for he retired undefeated so in MY eyes he is A class all the way , YOU on the other hand can think what ever you like.
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
@LogicalStatements1 I absolutely can say it, as Calzaghe himself will tell you that he fought bums for 20 years and should've left for the big time much earlier.
I mean fuck, watch any of his fights dating back to 98, EVERY SINGLE FIGHT the commentary team talks about how he's gonna go to america next year, he's gonna move up to light heavy, he's gonna look for the big fights.
What happened? The bum ducked everyone and hid in europe fighting bums in a shallow weight class for 10 more years
pearcemark2 2 months ago
@pearcemark2 Ok then you win I guess, Is that what you want to hear?
Fact is he is a legend in many peoples eyes, get over it for fuck sake.
Like many people call Tyson a twat for losing when he felt like it and lost all respect for him, some people like him some don't.
Just get over it lol.
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
@LogicalStatements1 Dana Rosenblatt is a legend in many peoples' eyes
They all live in Rhode Island, because like Calzaghe, he's a local hometown hero, which has no bearing on his status in the grand scheme of things.
In the grand scheme, Dana is a B fighter who never did much. Just like Calzaghe.
pearcemark2 2 months ago
@pearcemark2 Whoopdy doo?
If you dig too far into why people support certain people then you will depress people , just drop it mate.
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
@boxinggreatness I'm not being funny but Calzaghe was good yeah... if he fought De La Hoya or Jones in the 90's..... he would have been destroyed pure and simple!!
carloswotty 4 months ago
@carloswotty i dont know what planet you are on but jones jr was known to be a ducker andnever achieved huge popularity over here in the us until the last few years before his second loss. The contract was there for him and hopkins to fight joe and they both refused. De la hoya was a different weight but is the amir khan of the us, olympian with skills but not great. Joe beat anyone and everyone. Our guys never left our shores and expect praise simply because they are american!
boxinggreatness 4 months ago
Calzaghe is a class act, exciting to watch unlike some of the shite about (e.g. Hopkins) anybody who slates him is jealous because he is a success, and they are just on here because there life is boring working in a office and having a onesome with themselves every night
pug306rreg 1 year ago
why doesnt anyone who isnt british like british boxers? its rediculous! Calzaghe is one of the best BY FAR! he's fucking unreal!
tobyn123 1 year ago
@twentyzed well you have good points but either way i would still cosider him a star almost being a superstar but long way from a legend but yeah he is one of the best british boxer actually with his record he is the best british idk
bboyhwoarang5 1 year ago
@DI88ER what people dont get is that he fought jones out of his prime jones would have killed joe so badly joe couldnt ko jones im just sayin also b hop he was old too and i knew why joe won againts lacy cause joe was holding lacys left hand thats all couldn't even knock him out he should of fought winky wright he would get murdered or james toney,so thats why his not considered the best he fighter
bboyhwoarang5 1 year ago
@bboyhwoarang5 and yet b hop went on to smash pavlik, who everybody said would kill joe.
ask hopkins who would win out of pavlik or calzaghe
IrelandRaven 1 year ago
SWING AND A MISS!
carbonfiberfan 1 year ago
not gonna argue that joe's undefeated, however, i wish that just once i could have seen someone knock him the fuck out, I hate arrogance, especially when Joe's fights weren't even remotely entertaining.
GODLIKE20000 1 year ago
@Cowardzaghe Froch? ahahahahahahahahahaha
TALIBANBOYOreturns 1 year ago
@ellis3210 looooooool!!
The COWARD FROM WALES would get MURDERED by Abraham.
The COWARD only beat BUMS like Jeff Lacy and Kessler, his record is a joke
Cowardzaghe 1 year ago
@ellis3210 loooool Bernard Hopkins was a GRAND-DADDY and he still smashed the coward to pieces.
Easiest win of Hopkins's career
Cowardzaghe 1 year ago
@Cowardzaghe how true!!
i cant believe joe got the split decision...even freddy roach said"i dont know what fight the judges were watching" he was in fukkin disbelief!!!!
(this is also the best trainer of the decade!!)
whitepowerboyz 1 year ago
@Cowardzaghe Abraham lost to Dirrell tard
OrioNX99 1 year ago
@OrioNX99 looooool!! Dirrell would wheelchair the COWARD FROM WALES!!
The Coward only fought BUMS and PENSIONERS!
Cowardzaghe 1 year ago
@Cowardzaghe You're totally obsessed. Pretty sad really.
OrioNX99 1 year ago
LOL love the strut XD
dannyburboxer 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Bus drivers, Refuse Collectors, Fast Food Workers, Taxi Drivers, Postmen, Milkmen, Dinnerladies...People with DAY JOBS!! lol
PEOPLE GOT ONTO THE COWARD CALZAGHE'S GAME YEARS AGO!!
THANKS 4 THE MEMORIES FRANK WARREN!!
Cowardzaghe 2 years ago
i agree with you totally the mans a fraud ...unbeaten career spanning over a decade and has only earned 10mil total purse thats due to fighting hand picked douchebags and old time greats well past it.
daveking777 2 years ago
@Cowardzaghe
Ah, fuck I can't believe you're on ANY Calzaghe video throwing grumpy insults on him...
You're a total disgrace, man.
ezekielwahwah 2 years ago
@Cowardzaghe get a job and stop spamming utube you faggot!!
matikilliraqie1987 2 years ago 18
@matikilliraqie1987 Hopefully you have something more intelligent to say than that.
DwiteTheSpriteKnight 6 months ago
I love it how people always try to things away from joe. He beat hopkins and he destroyed jones and that all there is to say about it.
he also destroyed lacy who was meant to be the new mike tyson of the middleweights. And he was derfinitly in his prime when joe smashed him! How could I forget about kessler the unbeaten dane who joe beat. unanimously. and nobody can say he wasnt in his prime either.
What people need to realise is that joe has had a perfect career and went out on top
DI88ER 2 years ago 40
@DI88ER
We live in dark times, and people have become so numb that they can't even tell a champion from a bum... They're so fed up with Rocky and De Niro movies, that they think boxing is something between Capoeira and Marvel Comics fights.
Notice all the people calling "Gayweather" one of the greatest p4p boxers of his era...
"Gayweather", "Cowardzaghe"... We live in a sick world, because thesystem is run by such people I do not even dare to call "men".
ezekielwahwah 2 years ago
what are u talking about?
Haassan1 2 years ago
@Haassan1
I'm talking about the great banks and multinational corporations who feed consumerism and sick lifestyle.
ezekielwahwah 2 years ago
you have NO idea what the fuck you are talking about!
steevyp 2 years ago
@steevyp
Why?
ezekielwahwah 2 years ago
@ezekielwahwah you dont think mayweather is one of the best boxers of this generation?
...an the rest i have no idea what u are spouting!!
steevyp 2 years ago
@steevyp
Yes, in fact that's pretty much what i've said. I've said: "one of the greatest p4p boxers of his era". Era=generation, it's quite the same thing.
if you don't understand what I've said, I don't care that much, since you don't seem like the smartest guy around. You might also have concentration problems.
You can suck my dick if you like, tho.
ezekielwahwah 2 years ago
Here, here!
Calzaghe haters = jelous no-brain cocksuckers.
cuntbollockswank 1 year ago 2
@DI88ER u faggot, u need to get off calzaghes dick and face the facts..he controversially beat hopkins in a split-dicision and many believe b-hop won that fight, he beat an over the hill roy jones who only had 2 fights comin back from retirement, we all know jones wud hav smoked calzaghe if they fought when jones was in his prime, he also beat eubank who was past it..the only notable fighter he beat was kessler, who is one dimensional..bika was ok but has no defence...the rest were absolute bums
qk2slik 1 year ago
@DI88ER roy jones was nearly 40....bernard hopkins was 42....when lacy and kessler are the best names on your resume you know you have had a padded career...
BigAmzz 1 year ago
@BigAmzz It's a well known fact that hopkins ducked joe for years. So its not Joe's fault he decided to fight him when he had nothing to lose. Same goes for Roy Jones.
DI88ER 11 months ago
@DI88ER LOL!!! Hopkins and Jones were both in their 40's!! Lacy is and ALWAYS HAS BEEN A BUM!! And Kessler is above average at best. Calzaghe fought nobody, beat nobody, and retired a COWARD!
michaelowensvr 10 months ago
@DI88ER Calzaghe never faced a great fighter in his prime and thus is not considered an elite all time great. His best victory was against Kessler and we all saw how easily he was beaten by Andre Ward. His fights against Hopkins and Jones were against aged, past their prime fighters. Hopkins had lost 2 of his last 4 fights before facing Calzaghe and Jones was as shot as any fighter has ever been when he faced Calzaghe.
Aware2128 9 months ago
@DI88ER sure but the hopkins fight was close. and come on, beating jones at the ponit of his career meant fuck all. roy still dropped him. and lacy.. plz. even most experts thought he was good but not great. which is what joe shoed him to be ( hell a 40 year old jones OWNED lacy to). keessler has been shown to be a 1 geared fighter. apart from that.. who did he beat? and aging eubanks? wow...
evol121 8 months ago
@evol121 Yeah granted the Hopkins fight was close there is no doubt about that, but my point is that Hopkins has just won the WBC belt at 46 years of age. So he must still be pretty damn good! When you talk about getting dropped so what most fighters hit the canvas at some point and Joe still came back to win plus I cant remenber Lacy dropping Joe in their fight?!
DI88ER 8 months ago
@evol121 Yeah granted the Hopkins fight was close there is no doubt about that, but my point is that Hopkins has just won the WBC belt at 46 years of age. So he must still be pretty damn good! When you talk about getting dropped so what most fighters hit the canvas at some point and Joe still came back to win plus I cant remenber Lacy dropping Joe in their fight?!
Roy is a legend in the sport but he got beat by Tarver twice and who is Tarver really he hasnt exactly carried the sport.
DI88ER 8 months ago
@DI88ER He lost to Tarver after he destroyed his body coming down from heavyweight.
Gaining and losing a lot of weight is TERRIBLE for your body. People who yo-yo diet and do it with fat are doing bad enough to their body. Roy did it with all muscle, which is 10 times worse.
Roy fought at 174 against Clinton Woods, put on 20 pounds of muscle and fought John Ruiz at 193 6 months later. Then he sucked all that weight back off to get to 175 against Tarver, 6 months after that.
pearcemark2 8 months ago
@pearcemark2 sorry but that is complete rubbish he fought and beat Tarver after he came down from heavyweight. They fought twice after and Roy got owned.
DI88ER 8 months ago
@DI88ER It's not rubbish, idiot. It's exactly what happened. He BARELY beat Tarver in a controversial decision. He looked terrible in the ring, he had no balance, his legs were shaky, his reflexes were noticably much slower. He didn't look like he had any strength. He was tired. At that point, he at least still had his confidence, which allowed him to throw just enough to eek one out. But that was it. Everybody saw he was finished. Calzaghe himself wrote in his book that Roy was washed up.
pearcemark2 8 months ago
@DI88ER Calzaghe said he was washed up, a shadow of himself, and an unworthy opponent. His exact words.
Later that year, he GLADLY accepted a fight Roy, and did interviews acting he was fighting prime Roy. It was fucking embarassing and cowardly to retire on that fight.
pearcemark2 8 months ago
@pearcemark2 Lol I think your the idiot 117-111 116-112 114-114 isnt squeezing out the win. All im hearing is excuses. He went up in weight in his early 30's and him and Tarver fought over three years that is mlre than enough time to get your body back to what it was. Look at Pac man he is going up and down in weight. Dumbass!!!
DI88ER 8 months ago
@DI88ER When many observers feel he lost the fight and one judge has it a draw, that's a very close win.
Dude, he was at the age where you start to leave your prime already. He took all that weight off and couldn't put it back on because he was an old man, you can't fucking recapture that shit after you massacre yourself.
You embarassing douche, YOUR FUCKING FAGGOT HERO HIMSELF SAID HE WAS COMPLETELY WASHED UP, STOP BEING IN FUCKING DENIAL YOU NIGGER
pearcemark2 8 months ago
@pearcemark2 HaHaHa you ahvent got a fucking clue what you are on about. Anderson Silva who fights in mma is 36 years of age walks around at around 220 and cuts down in weight to 185. He does this for every fight!!! Doing that is far more taxing on the body than going up in weight once.
Stop making excuses you fucking inbread redneck cunt!!!!!
DI88ER 8 months ago
@DI88ER Wow, that was the single dumbest response you could have had.
Hilarious.
pearcemark2 8 months ago
@pearcemark2 LOL Same back at you!!! Considering that you couldnt even come back wiith a decent response.
Face it you havent got clue what you are on about.
DI88ER 8 months ago
@DI88ER You are a boner
kpatrickp21 8 months ago
Comment removed
DwiteTheSpriteKnight 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@pearcemark2 And you are a boner
kpatrickp21 8 months ago
@pearcemark2 Whatever boxers talk a lot when it comes to talking about other fighter.
DI88ER 8 months ago
@DI88ER Lol at you bringing up the Jones fight. You don't call that a destruction and RJJ was completely shot at that stage of his career. The Hopkins fight was a close, controversial and ugly ugly fight. Joe's best wins are Jeff lacy, who was over hyped and Mikkel Kesslar. The fact that you brought up Jones just shows me you know nothing about boxing
SmLXXX 7 months ago
@SmLXXX I thought Calzaghe did enough to deserve his victory over Hopkins. I agree with you that Joe's win over Kessler was a bigger deal though because it was a very convincing win in the end over a fighter that a lot of people thought was going to win by knock out.
DwiteTheSpriteKnight 6 months ago
@DI88ER you forgot to add that roy jones refused and bernard hopkins refused to fight Joe years earlier according to frank warren and chris eubank who said jones asked him whether or not he should fight joe and chris said he too tough so jones didnt take the fight. When warren was sacked he did the typical backstabbing warren thing of talking joe down but truth is nobody could touch joe. When you watch bute, froch, ward now, you realise how good joe was.
boxinggreatness 6 months ago
@boxinggreatness I can't see Roy Jones believing Calzaghe was too formidable for him. He didn't believe that before they finally fought so he certainly wouldn't have believed it when he was in his prime. Maybe Jones management thought it wasn't worth the risk though. Jones versus Calzaghe, if it had taken place years earlier would've been a much closer fight than a lot of people realise though. Joe would have had a reasonable chance of winning but Jones would've been a deserving favourite.
DwiteTheSpriteKnight 6 months ago
@DwiteTheSpriteKnight Nah the best fighters were in Britian those days and Jones fought nobody. Fighters like him, winky wright, delahoya, hopkins were over hyped by hbo and when you look at who they beat it doesnt make good viewing. Jones never left america and after seeing benn put mcclelan in a coma in the UK i think both jones and hbo said no thanks and ran a mile. At their peaks clazaghe was too fast and too durable a fighter. He could adapt to win. Remember jones took steds too!
boxinggreatness 6 months ago
@boxinggreatness I think Calzaghe would've had a better chance of beating Roy Jones in his prime than anyone else of his era who fought at LHW or below. If Jones had of fought Benn at SMW and Benn had knocked him out that would have surprised me but I wouldn't have looked on in disbelief. It is a shame that we didn't get to see Jones vs Benn and Jones vs Calzaghe. If Calzaghe had, had the opportunity to unify the super middleweight division earlier I think it would have been different.
DwiteTheSpriteKnight 5 months ago
@boxinggreatness I hadn't previously heard about Jones taking performance enhancing drugs. That certainly muddies the waters. I don't know if he took just enough to heal from an injury faster or much more than that but it certainly tarnishes his rep either way. Apart from that, to remove the need for debates and outdo the UFC, boxing certainly needs a central controlling body so the only way to win and keep a world title is to always fight the best.
DwiteTheSpriteKnight 5 months ago
@DwiteTheSpriteKnight Yeah I reckon the sanctioning bodies need tougher rules about fighters paying to dodge fighters. Like Pacquaio didnt defend his WBO welterweight title for 14 months because he payed step aside money to fight more lucrative fights. The UFC may seem to pit the best against the best but dana has too much control over who gets pushed and who doesnt which is dangerous as a championship body should be unbias. I got sick of the way silva and evans were treated, even comparing gsp
boxinggreatness 5 months ago
@DwiteTheSpriteKnight Yeah to Silva was a disgrace. About steroids and enhancements, lesnar was a known steroid junkie in his earlier years so how he is allowed to fight I dont know. He's got the benefits from it now so he and pretty much all the others should be banned.
boxinggreatness 5 months ago
SIZINGPENYRHEOL lol the serious world class fighters you talk about lol there was two and there were both past it along time ago lol dont say oh bhop beat pavlik n jones beat lacy because they are both seriously overhyoed boxers
xcalumt91x 2 years ago
if anyone watches the calzaghe vs bika fight they can see why joe didn't do great, he took the piss with it, didn't seem to take it serious, when bika wanted to brawl which was practically the whole fight instead of boxing him up he just brawled back lmao. if anyone wants to watch it n i think its a good watch lemme know n i'll send a link
eddylon1983 2 years ago
he fucking looked like an idiot there he is no hamed fucking loser doing that ricky hatton style strut at the end made me feel like kicking him
ThePunchinPeacemaker 2 years ago 2
Anyone got the full fight?
washappnin 2 years ago
joe lost this fight
MrSouthpaw786 2 years ago
No he didnt you idiot, Joe never lost a fight you crack, undefeated professional career, do your research southpaw
taffyapples02 2 years ago
he probally means should of. i've seen it tho bika got dominated
eddylon1983 2 years ago
your a fool
EBTerriers 2 years ago
He made a complete village prat of himself here.
He was showing off because he knew HBO were broadcasting live to the States following his Jeff Lacy win and he was trying too hard to impress them.
SIZINGPENYRHEOL 2 years ago
HBO turned his head for good, he continued to care more about showboating than boxing after the Lacy fight. I liked Calzaghe, but Best of all time? Don't make me laugh. Undefeated means nout if you don't fight anyone worthy. Rant over.
mynumberisone 2 years ago
No-one I know says that Calzaghe is the best of all time.
But he was a good fighter - who fought a number of serious world class fighters
SIZINGPENYRHEOL 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The only fight Calzaghe lost
Foresythe 2 years ago
joe never lost :S
ellis3210 2 years ago 7
@ellis3210 Only because he avoided better fighters (kelly pavlik, the young jermaine taylor, arthur abraham to name a few) and fought legends in their final days. Even Chad dawson offered to fight him but was refused.
AEF091 1 year ago
@AEF091
go watch lucian bute!
this guy would clean calzaghe clock!
whitepowerboyz 1 year ago
@whitepowerboyz No he won't. Lucian Bute????????? Calzaghe would wipe the floor with him. I am thinking along the linwes of Kelly Pavlik
AEF091 1 year ago
@whitepowerboyz No he won't. I am thinking along the lines of a young Jermain Taylor (way before his losses to Pavlik) or even Andre Ward. I think however Andre Direll would outclass bute and calzaghe this guy just as he did with Froch (though lost the home town decision) and Abraham.
AEF091 1 year ago
Yeah, he didnt lose you nob
taffyapples02 2 years ago