So What Beginner Jazz Lesson Miles Davis Dorian Licks

[horbergus]

Finally someone who speaks my language

[JonSibuea]

Thanks for the lesson , it helps me alot,, I listen to miles years ago it is really great music. @ KARzr I think there is no absolute theory for producing licks,, `if you said that follows what your ears want to,, why davis and monks still playing the same lick sometimes in the different stages? so no need sophisticated pedagogical approach in creating licks, i think... just leave to the audience .......let them decide....:)

[emmetwhitey]

The Chords Are Actually D-7 And E-7

Im Not Hating Im Just Pointing It For People If They Try To Jam With The Track :) Great Lesson BTW Love The Licks

[milowagon]

Great lesson. This has opened a few jazz windows for me. I have been trying to spice up my improv recently as a gigging musician, this really helps. I will subscribe. Many thanks.

[scraggo]

@milowagon Thanks for the kind words. Please message me or somehow let me know if you have questions or make any headway. Take care and best of luck!

[willjalea1]

@milowagon  exelente

[jendunn]

thanks. this lesson helped me out alot.. need somewhere to start

[lukeslidewalker]

Hi Dude

Great lesson. I'm just starting on guitar so this was really good. I especially liked it when you hummed the dorian note as it made it so clear as to the flavour

Thanks

Lukeslidewalker

[KA1ZR]

-picking up from last comment- guitar is my second instrument, I'm a trumpet player by trade, so I have been brought up with the idea that you should listen to your ear, and that in my view is where the best improvising comes from.

[KA1ZR]

I'm sorry my previous comment may have been a bit full on, but learning licks isn't the only path to good improvising. I'm not sure if this applies to guitar players or not, but if you get good enough on your instrument to be able to play what your ear tells you, then you don't have to "make up" lines or play variations of licks you've learnt, because the lines just come to you. Saying learning licks is wrong in my earlier comment was a bit unnecessary, I'm sorry if it offended anyone, but g

[KA1ZR]

Sorry but I totally disagree with this tutorial. Jazz is improvisation, not pulling out fully practiced licks and playing them when you feel like it. Jazz solos are in the moment, playing what your ear tells you to play, it's called improvising. Teaching people to play jazz by showing them licks is wrong.

[scraggo]

@KA1ZR I've been teaching jazz for quite a while, and while licks aren't the PERFECT method of teaching jazz, they are one of many useful pedagogical techniques. Are you going to comment on every youtube video that has a lick in it, and tell the creator that they're "wrong?" Why does this have to be a moral issue? And do you think anyone watching this video needs your completely unproductive opinion?

[scraggo]

@KA1ZR also...you're not even supposed to use this lick verbatim...it's a springboard for true improvisation.

[3star2nr]

@KA1ZR In the words of Miles Davis SO WHAT

[bigal1500]

@KA1ZR You've obviously never taken any jazz class. There's a reason things sound "jazzy" - a lot has to do with clichés and how you tie them together; taking from the masters like Parker and Davis. Also, very unproductive comment.

[bigal1500]

@KA1ZR You've obviously never taken any jazz class. There's a reason things sound "jazzy" - a lot has to do with clichés and how you tie them together; taking from the masters like Parker and Davis. Also, very unproductive comment.

[Pierce188]

@KA1ZR Thats just dumb. How are people supposed to practice then? How are you supposed to improve? Yes, a lot of jazz is improvisation, but you should understand that practicing licks shows you different ways to move around the fretboard. Ask the best players around, they'll all tell you that they learned by learning the songs and styles of other players who they looked up to.

[slyme1711]

good shit

[guitarralaraja]

cool video, but it is funny that almost everyperson on the planet "links" rock or metal with only pentatonic or a little knowledge of music..

and i think that's pretty much because when people think of metal they think bout metallica, or shit like that.. very basic..

there are many musicians in rock or metal that manage exactly the same vocabulary the jazz people do.

[scraggo]

@guitarralaraja Thanks for watching - I definitely don't mean to put down rock or metal musicians, this lesson is designed to show that there can be a common pentatonic grounding in the 3 genres. It's awesome that you can put as much or as little into rock and metal as you'd like.

[chillichomper]

I love the comment "Scales r useless without licks". That sums it up very concisely. Well said.

[scraggo]

@chillichomper Yes, I feel like a lot of beginner jazz guitar instruction gives you endless scale exercises, but absolutely nothing as far as tried and true licks. Thanks a lot for the kind words - much appreciated.

[JensKolonD]

I cannot find the pdf, man :(

[andrewjwarren03]

His voice sounds exactly like Jerry Seinfeld's

[phyfodor]

Brilliant, much appreciated.

[danlovesnan]

hi!! doesn't the real song start with the following notes? D, A,,B,C,D,E,F,C....instead of G,A,B.......that's what i see in the "real book" version.

[scraggo]

@danlovesnan Yes - those are the real notes!  There is an octave higher version in the provided PDF that is able to get the low D. Otherwise, you'd have to put your guitar in drop D tuning, or transpose the tune up to the key of E or higher. The "G" arrangement is a convenience that others such as George Benson do as well.

[danlovesnan]

@scraggo

Thanks for your explanation!!!!

[KizZamP92]

you really know what youre doing.

thanks for that great lesson !!!

[Veranek]

Very good lesson, I´ve understood much more about the modes.

[deylite]

but those are nt the chords you showed at the beginning-why not give the eexact fingering on the chords you use during the actual opening?

[p4philip]

m8 best lesson i hav seen on this website make more vids plsssssss

[jmsbk12345]

I think you mean 10, 12, 13 on the B and high E string as the tab suggests. I actually play this number with massive improv around the D and Eb pentatonic and blues pentatonic scales as well as the Dorian. Great number.

[scraggo]

thanks for pointing that out. Everybody: at 1:33-1:36 I meant 10 12 13, 10 12 13 - so follow the tab, not the words that come out of my mouth ;)

[junka22]

great lesson on a great tune :)

[FTStratLP]

I think you got the chords slightly wrong. Since !So What" is the standard of MODAL Jazz the 2 chords used sre not minor7 chards but "Dorian" chords, i. e. D-Dorian (d-g-c-f) and E-flat-Dorian(e flat-a flat-d flat-g flat) These "Modal" chords are not made out of thirds but fourths.

[scraggo]

I definitely agree on using those chord voicings while playing... but I wouldn't say those chords are "wrong." For the sake of simplicity, and to follow the changes in "The Real Book" 5th ed., they are D minor 7 and Eb minor 7. For the beginner, it's good enough, since the quartal voicings you are talking about can be D minor 11 or D minor 7 add 4, which most jazz musicians add anyways. So we agree, you can use "dorian chords" starting from any root of the dorian mode.

[bermudadog]

Damn! You're smart. Thanks for the lesson.

[gamac1]

It's good to see someone young who is able to post standard notation as opposed to the tab stuff that is everywhere today. But trying to figure out a complex solo from tab is it's own punishment.

[zeppelin2392]

That's a bid of an irrationally founded comment, the point of tab is TAKING OUT the complexities. Converting more sophisticated notation into tab is not complex at all, unless you cant hear rhythms well enough to learn from them.

[blackfireINSANITY]

Dude, one of the most useful jazz lessons on the site.

Fuck expertvillage, nothing they upload is useful. This was great. Thanks a bunch.

[scraggo]

I'm glad this is helping! More hopefully this month

[svidrigajlov]

thank you SO MUCH

I dont have the money to take private lessons, but I REALLY want to learn some jazz and these kind of lessons are awesome. I Really appreciate.

Hope you will keep uploading stuff for jazz beginners.

Ciao.

[dr4ncer]

hey i cant download the pdf files.....

[skrakel]

Best scale lesson I've ever seen. Keep it up.

[sameoldshit]

great vid man, keep it up

[illdoitagain]

Excellent!