I gave up watching at the explanation of morality example as a lion "ripping apart the neck of a deer and drinking it's blood" - observing this to not be a moral act. 1. Lions do not drink the blood of the deer 2. Lions attack the neck as it's the most efficient way to kill the prey.
This implies that muslims are vegetarians because god given morals dictate they should not kill other animals for food.
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A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
I don't doubt these two guys sincerity about their beliefs but please wake up... God is delusion created by man who are opportunistic, psychopath and neurotic especially in that era. We can achieve our goals if we can all cooperate in common goods through compassion, love and most of all be kind to one another. Peace and Cheers
God doesn't exist. As Albert Einstein defined God as a sick men's dreams. Just 2 days ago Scientist discovered the origin of human in South Africa. It's been carbon dated as 1.8 millions years ago. The bible is only less than 5 thousands years old. Btw Scientist in Australia have discovered a planet that is made of diamonds in its entirety. We are just one of the billions planet in the universe.
The existence of God from any argument, whether ontological or epistemological, doesn't necessarily mean that the Abrahamic religions are correct or that God has revealed himself to prophets through the ages.
its funny when the agnostic guy refuted all of Tzotrtis arguments , all he had to say was "well these refutations are not defeatist arguments"...but didn't care to elaborate why. This shows the difference between a user of logic and a user of rhetoric
beautiful. 'Debate' is a little misleading. I think 'discussion', or 'dialogue' would perhaps be more appropriate. Both parties are, insofar as I can tell, seekers who appreciate the search for Truth. They each have their personal disposition, but are open and intellectually sincere enough to have a honest dialogue regarding the most important subject of our time, and in reality of all times...
at 19.57 Hamza claims that science starts from assumptions therefore it is in the same footing with religion which therefore should not have to prove anything. this is gross false analogy, not the least because science is based on empiricism and testing any scientific claims can be tested. You would not fly on a plane made by somebody who dreamed its design or feels deeply that it should fly...you trust a plane designed on the tested principles of aeronotics/mechanics/materials etc.
Excellent debate. Hamzah is an excellent speaker. Thanks for the upload MBC. I also liked the way Mr Lewis conducted his talk, he seemed quite respectful.
most humans on earth believe in god. humans are inclined to believe in god. it's programed in us the same way that we are programed that we can not grasp, control and fully understand the universe.
both william lane and hamza r belivers and they both belive in sam god so who cares... may the creator of the heavens and the earth guide you and me all of us...
@afglionheart no william lane craig is a christian and therefore doesnt believe in the same god as he believes that jesus is god i.e. trinity and hamza tzortzis believes in the one ALLAH alone with no son, no partner so mother and no father
Lewis posed a very good view @ around 0:58:43 . The Quran calls people to reflect on this very point
Quran 79: Are you more difficult to create, or is the heaven that He constructed? (27)
xtaziy 2 months ago
I gave up watching at the explanation of morality example as a lion "ripping apart the neck of a deer and drinking it's blood" - observing this to not be a moral act. 1. Lions do not drink the blood of the deer 2. Lions attack the neck as it's the most efficient way to kill the prey.
This implies that muslims are vegetarians because god given morals dictate they should not kill other animals for food.
stevenbryson 2 months ago
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Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 5 months ago
I don't doubt these two guys sincerity about their beliefs but please wake up... God is delusion created by man who are opportunistic, psychopath and neurotic especially in that era. We can achieve our goals if we can all cooperate in common goods through compassion, love and most of all be kind to one another. Peace and Cheers
jaguar01010 5 months ago
God doesn't exist. As Albert Einstein defined God as a sick men's dreams. Just 2 days ago Scientist discovered the origin of human in South Africa. It's been carbon dated as 1.8 millions years ago. The bible is only less than 5 thousands years old. Btw Scientist in Australia have discovered a planet that is made of diamonds in its entirety. We are just one of the billions planet in the universe.
jaguar01010 5 months ago
The existence of God from any argument, whether ontological or epistemological, doesn't necessarily mean that the Abrahamic religions are correct or that God has revealed himself to prophets through the ages.
TheLorenAvedon 8 months ago
its funny when the agnostic guy refuted all of Tzotrtis arguments , all he had to say was "well these refutations are not defeatist arguments"...but didn't care to elaborate why. This shows the difference between a user of logic and a user of rhetoric
ElectricQualia 11 months ago
the atheist is blown away in this debate, MaasAllah!!!
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kalikali8888 1 year ago
Mashallah the Agnostic is a very nice and humble being May Allah swt show him the way.
edlgotbanged 1 year ago
Allahu Akbar
almao2006 1 year ago
beautiful. 'Debate' is a little misleading. I think 'discussion', or 'dialogue' would perhaps be more appropriate. Both parties are, insofar as I can tell, seekers who appreciate the search for Truth. They each have their personal disposition, but are open and intellectually sincere enough to have a honest dialogue regarding the most important subject of our time, and in reality of all times...
anddudewaslike 1 year ago
hamzah is one of the best speaker in the world,,
raju53 1 year ago
at 19.57 Hamza claims that science starts from assumptions therefore it is in the same footing with religion which therefore should not have to prove anything. this is gross false analogy, not the least because science is based on empiricism and testing any scientific claims can be tested. You would not fly on a plane made by somebody who dreamed its design or feels deeply that it should fly...you trust a plane designed on the tested principles of aeronotics/mechanics/materials etc.
Ijustasking 1 year ago
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@Ijustasking "you trust a plane designed on the tested principles of aeronotics/mechanics/materials etc."
it is those principles that Hamza referred to are assumptions. We have to have a starting point, which are principles as you mentioned, in science.
smali2 1 year ago
MashAllah!!
dhyleck 1 year ago
Masha ALLAH great debate.
taano71 2 years ago
This type of atheism that we look forward to a dialogue with him ..
Sincere , Serious , seeker of truth... only,he which we can cooperate with him to make coexistence possible
But of course not the "NEW CLOWNS" .. I think you know who I mean
fajralislam72 2 years ago
Excellent debate. Hamzah is an excellent speaker. Thanks for the upload MBC. I also liked the way Mr Lewis conducted his talk, he seemed quite respectful.
muslim610 2 years ago 11
most humans on earth believe in god. humans are inclined to believe in god. it's programed in us the same way that we are programed that we can not grasp, control and fully understand the universe.
ranger1360 2 years ago 2
It seems as though Hamzah has watched many William Lane Craig videos.
lambent77777 2 years ago 2
both william lane and hamza r belivers and they both belive in sam god so who cares... may the creator of the heavens and the earth guide you and me all of us...
afglionheart 2 years ago
@afglionheart no william lane craig is a christian and therefore doesnt believe in the same god as he believes that jesus is god i.e. trinity and hamza tzortzis believes in the one ALLAH alone with no son, no partner so mother and no father
TheMuslimBro 1 year ago
@TheMuslimBro sorry bro yess ur right... but the are the closest to us in faith..
afglionheart 1 year ago
"God never began to exist"
Thank You.
crumbinator 2 years ago
I was impressed with the intellectual rigour exhibited by all parties, including the audience.
Clearly there are many people out there using their mind and seeking truth.
Jazakallahu khayran for posting.
Alhamdulillahi rabbil alameen.
romanali1 2 years ago 3
JazakAllah Khair for posting!
jaemonxD 2 years ago 10