By the way, Mayweather's demand are just an alibi to get out of the fight. He doesn't want a piece of Pac why will he run on the biggest fight in history? Pac never agreed coz its a ridiculous demand its like giving the 1st round to Pussy boy. Clean the sport of boxing? Bullshit, I just hope he will make Ortiz subject to Random Blood Testing also otherwise he's just a pussy ducking Pacquiao.
@Midnightrambler3760 Hahaha. You are simply jealous. Envious just like your pussy boy hiding taking a vacation. The fight with Ortiz is just an alibi for him not to come on court and face his lawsuit. Poor Pussy boy your idol is a criminal, women beater and security guard harasser. Hahaha i guess birds of the same feather flock together.
@Narutolicious You are somply scared because Floyd is back and it terrifies you. You know time is running out for pac and he will have to face flody once and for all, Pac cannot hide forever.
It is coming...Floyd will humiliate pacroid in the most overhyped mismatch in boxing history....you shoudl start working on the usual excsues for when pac loses.
@Midnightrambler3760 You wish. Pac will KO your pussy boy. Pussy can run all night but Pac will find him and once he does. Bye bye Floyd. A good night for him. His shoulder roll is useless against south paws. He stands no chance against Pacquiao. Pussy boy will meet his Karma for cherrypicking guys to have undefeated records.
@Midnightrambler3760 The thing is your pussy boy is busy hiding from Pac. Why are you saying Pussy boy will whoop Pacman's little ass? The fight ain't happening. It will only happen if Pussy boy grow some balls.
@Narutolicious Pac cannot hide behind Bob Arum forever. Sooner or later he will have to face Floyd or admit to the world he is a cherrypicking coward.
But keep on believing Bob Arum press releases, the rest of the world already knows it is Roach and Pac who are hiding pac.
Even pac's own trainer and promoter are both well aware that Floyd will end his career. I wonder who pac will fight after Marquez...another 40 year old Mexican?
@Midnightrambler3760 Really? Pacman is busy fighting in the ring while Mayweather is busy beating women. Mayweather is busy with his tshirt, busy with his family, busy with his album, busy with 50 cent. He shows no interest in boxing because Pacman is active. How ironic you are saying Pacman is hiding, while he is the one active in boxing right now. Pussy chooses to fight Ortiz than to meet Pacman in court LMAO.
@Narutolicious Floyd has a fight scheduled for September, how can you say he is not busy. Floyd only fights once a year becasue he makes more than Pacquiao and does not need to fight twice a year.
He fought Marquez in 2009, Mosley in 2010 will fight Ortiz in 2011 and will end pac's career in 2012.
@Narutolicious You should start working on your excuses.. Here are some excuses pac has used in the past, maybe you can reuse them: 1. Too drained from weight loss 2. Too drained from blood loss 3. Itchy socks 4. Cramps 5. had a headache You can reuse these excuses or make up some of your own, here are some suggestions: 1. Menstrual cramps 2. Hemmoroids 3. Depression after realizing he was a flip midget.
@Narutolicious hahahah yea right pacroid had a tough time hitting shane mosley or should i say "oldsley" lol and how old was oldsley about 150 years old loool what makes u think pacroid gonna hit floyd how many puches is pacroid gonna land lol about 5 punches each round...................... loser pacfags dick rider
@1SugarRayRobinson1 Oldsley or Shame Mostley for quitting like a bitch after round 3's Knocked Down. Backpedalling bitch like Mayweather. He can run all night but he can't hide from Pacman. Pacman will KO your Pussyboy. Bet your house on it. Pacman is the best and on top of his game NOBODY can beat him right now.
@Narutolicious when you reply to 1SugarRayRobinson1 , change his name to 1SugarGayRobinson1. it really pisses him off. :))
and he is a hatton fan. he's really sad that his idol fell on the 2nd round. he cant move on after that, that's why he dedicated his time and dignity in becoming a pacman TROLL. :))
Also this guy LOVES Teddy Atlas. what a douchebag. :)
@pken21. Hey loser mind ur own buissnes okay I just haked you:))) thats how I knew u commented here:))) hahahah ill give u one more chance or il start playing about with ur account.......n u wish I was gay coz u have been brought up by gay parent lol so tell me how is it like having gay parents? Do u get bullied for having gay parent? Lol loser:l ur also a coward blocking me lol. A coward move by GAY--->pken21<---GAY LOL
@Narutolicious i know one guy that can beat him. I will give you a hint, the rightful champ at the division where pac has his eight and record breaking title. Oh, he's too big, you will say but this great man has said that he will be generous and come down in weight to a catchweight of 150 pounds. We all know pac loves the catchweightas like a fat kid loves cake. So if pac was as great as you says he is man up and fight. So times up, the man that would put a beating on pac is sergio martinez
@Narutolicious LOl This isnt like Tyson in the 80s, then, he couldnt be beat at that time period, Manny has over and over shown his flaws, and it just so happens to be with the very same type of style Mayweather Masters in, you can go around youtube calling people haters all you want, but boxing fans like myself, i see guys like you as the biggest haters, you will talk shit about floyd for his mistakes, but pacmans mistakes are always justified with you guys.
@Narutolicious What kind of pussy files a lawsuit, LMAO!
Why would floyd waste a day in court for $75,000 when he will make $25,000 per second against Ortiz?
GB told Arum when you are ready let us know and Pac has looked weak and tired in his last two fights. His shelf life is showing and after Marquez Arum will be anxious to get him in the ring with Floyd.
@Midnightrambler3760 Reasons. He is just afraid of Pacman. He better not waste a day in the court or he'll be in jail. Hahaha pussy bunch of criminals. Your idol is a criminal I guess you're an ex-convict too. Or maybe or an ex-pusher or drug dealer. YUCK!!! I don't have time for a criminal like you LMAO. See you and your pussy boy in JAIL. ROFL!!!
@Narutolicious so what if floyd goes to jail adleast he aint scared to go to jail is pacroid goes to jail hell get raped by black people and you know it LMAO!
@Narutolicious so what if floyd goes to jail adleast he aint scared to go to jail if pacroid goes to jail he'l get raped by black people and you know it LMAO!
Whatever your Floyd can do, Manny can do it better. Period. Manny is the best while Floyd the cherrypicker, Xylocaine injector and ducker of all time. Even the Hall of Famers of boxing are disgusted with Floyd. Who is he? Stop the bullshit and fight.
Pacquiao isn't a 1 dimensional fighter,he's a quick southpaw with terrific offensive skills , coordination and has great stamina..Floyd knows that too,that's why he's not fighting Him yet..
Armstrong won the WW championship against the undisputed champion and he weighed in at 133 lbs, he did not ask for a catchweight. Pac needed a catchweight for a bum like cotto.
Armstrong fought for the MW title and weighed in at 144 lbs, he did not ask for a catchweight. Pac needed a catchweight at JMW for a bum like margarito.
Pac would never have gotten into the ring with armstrong. He would hide like he is hiding from Floyd.
@Midnightrambler3760 Come fight night there are no catch weights Margarito came in at 165lbs on fight night, clottey at about 160lbs. Stop with the catch weights already. Catch weights are only formalities, look at the weights on fight night. Even De La Hoya weighed more than Pacman when they fought. Just look at this video man, compare this to Pacmans worst fight so far against Mosely. Even on a bad day Pacman still would have won. Back in the day any dude off the street would'a been a boxer
@StylinAzn This is where Pac fans do not understand the sport.
The whole point of makinga guy drain to a catchweight is that it does exactly that, it drains him. It is hard on the body to come down even an extra 2 lbs and then rehydrate. It takes it's toll.
Clottey had a rehydration clause and could not come in above 153 lbs. That was the smallest I have ever seen Clottey look in any fight.
Pac outweighed Oscar in the ring. Oscar could not rehydrate properly and his ring weight was 147 lbs while Pac's ring weight was 148.5 lbs.
So Pac outweighed Oscar by 1.5 lbs while OScar outweighed Floyd by 17 lbs in the ring. I laugh when people compare the fights..that is an 18.5 lb difference.
@StylinAzn If a catchweight is only a formality then why does pac demand them. Why did Pac need Cotto to come to 145 lbs when Pac was previously in teh ring at 148.5 for Oscar?
The point is Cotto has a hard time making 147 lbs. So making 145 lbs dehydrates him completely and even after rehydration it takes it's toll.
That is where the boxing term "dead at the weight" comes from.
Pac fans should actually learn something about the sport before they make ridiculous comments.
@Midnightrambler3760 OK I could see you're "trying" to prove your point...some points sound good but bottom line... it takes two to tango!! if catch weights are so bad then why do fighters accept them???????? I mean if you dont want to fight Pacquiao at a catch weight then just dont fight e.g.mayweather. All these fighters that accept catch weights know damn well what they are getting into. So your complaints about catch weights is BS!!!! They sign that contract its a done deal. They accept!!!
@StylinAzn Do you think Cotto and Maragrito had a choice but to accept?
Pac accpeted a catchweight early in his career and ignored it and came in one pound over. He was knocked out anyway. He later complained that he was drained and that is why he lost.
Seems strange that you now say "All these fighters that accept catchweights know damn well what they are getting into" when your hero complained about the accept same thing...or have you forgotten that?
@StylinAzn Sooner or later pac will lose a couple of fights and will no longer be holding all of the negotiating cards.
It will be interesting when this happens and Pac is then desperate to get a fight with Floyd and Floyd says "OK, but at 154 lbs". Pac having no choice will have to accept.
I am sure Pac fans will be whining and complaining that Floyd is using his position to get and advantage while they now excuse pac of doing the same thing to Cotto and Margarito..
@Midnightrambler3760 You talking "what if"... lets talk reality. floyd is not fighting Pacman period!! The whole world see's floyd as a Coward!!! (ESPN). Now fact, floyd is a racist, wife beater, bully, child beater. In fact he just recently failed to show up at a court ordered proceeding...criminal. If this is who you choose to support... well then... I guess birds of a feather. You seem like a smart guy... but really if you support... a trash talking criminal. Then no more needs to be said.
@StylinAzn Everyone knoes it is Arum who is keeping Pac away from Floyd. Top Rank writer Michael Marley has even admitted it.
He said "A match up with Floyd is the last thing Arum wants for 2010 and 2011" He also said that Arum sent a ridiculous offer for November 2010 because he already had Margarito lined up. He said Floyd's manager told Arum to contact him again when he want to be serious. he has not heard back from Arum.
How many senior citizens will Pac fight this year?
@StylinAzn What does Floyd's personal life have to do with his skill in the ring? Regardless if you consider Floyd a criminal or not it does not change the fact that he will school pac in the most overhyped mismatch in boxing history.
catch weights are bullshit, if manny was a real champion coming up in weight he should just fight the fighter at there natural weight, & prove to the world he can beat them at there best, whats next a light heavy weight title at 147 catchweight??
I don't know where you've been man. It is always good strategy to get the advantage for your fighter. If it was up to Pac-man he fight Floyd any way he wants. Pac-man has integrity. Manager's will always do this kind a thing. Ali used to demand the largest ring size. A manager would be dumb not to do this.Thats boxing! No bearing on the facts That both will make a darn good fight. Its Pac-man's speed, explosiveness and intensity vs Floyd's Quickness & counter punching. Its a good fight !!!
The explosiveness of Pacquiao is due to his strong legs that propel him in and upon his opponent like lightening. At some point Hearns has got to catch a combo which hurts him. Hearns among all the best welters of all times had the weakest chin. This explosive ability of Pac-man is what gives his opponents their biggest problems. Hearns had speed too and the best jab of the welters so it would be a good fight. But Pac-man can turn it on in the latter rounds when hearns is starting to weaken.
@matizaph Pac has a weak chin and a weak body. Pac has been KO'd twice, once with a body shot and knocked down by a nameless russian. Even Marquez wobbled pac numerous times.
Marquez almost bent pac in half with a body shot.
Anyway, i will not argue about hearns any more because I doubt you ever even saw him fight and you do not know enough about the psort to have an intelligent conversation.
@Midnightrambler3760 Glenn Johnson has lost so many times it ain't funny. No bearing on the facts.And Where was Floyd during Cotto's and Margarita's peak years?STRATEGY!!! Pacs more compact at 144 to 147.He's more explosive at welter. His legs got stronger and his confidence too. Marquez will have a harder time with Pac-man this time around.
@Midnightrambler3760 I was referring to Floyd's timely retirement after his bout with Dela Hoya instead of fighting Cotto or Margarito who had not fought each other yet. He came back only after Cotto was badly beaten, and Margarito was knocked out by Mosley and suspended. We don't know what Floyd was really facing in his life but it did look suspicious. In regards to Marquez, he will have a harder time against Pac because Pac is a more complete fighter than he was in their 2nd fight.
@matizaph Too funny. It was the boxing writers who laughed at the idea of a rematch of Floyd/Oscar. Nobody wanted to see it.
Pac did not give Marquez a rematch after a draw and made him wait 3 years.
Pac did not give Marquez a rematch after a 1 pt split decision and again made him wait 3 years until he is 40. Yet he gave Morlaes an immediate rematch after a KO.
That is a good analyses. I always thought Pacquiao reminded me of Duran with his explosiveness, foot movement and fierceness. At lightweight Duran would take him but their would be some tremendous exchanges. At welterweight that would be a toss up as Pac-man has gotten little better since fighting at welter. The older fighters from before the 80's were just not as advanced physically as well as technique wise.
Its funny hearing things like "PAC has no defense" from flomos, when all they have to do is watch PAC vs ODLH and they will see PAC displaying his skills in defense fighting a TALLER and a fighter with ridiculous REACH ADVANTAGE. PAC virtually never got hit in that fight, and yet they say PAC has no defense. Henry Armstrong is an easy target for PAC, he barely moved in this clip. Henry Armstrong is like David Diaz and Hatton in this clip.
@Midnightrambler3760 what was that again?? can you repeat what you just said? Mosley Knocked down PAC? bwahahahaha I guess your that same nigger that called that push a Knock down Go Fuck yourself with that bwahahahaha
@Midnightrambler3760 under the rules? bayless personally approached Pacman and says sorry coz it was a bad call. Loser. Hahahaha 8 belts in 8 different divisions in your face.
@Midnightrambler3760 so what if he was knocked down? That was a long time ago. Don't live in the past. The present is now 8 titles in 8 different weight division. Eat that bitch!
@Narutolicious One of the titles is a ring magazine title and therefore not a real world title. 2 other titles were won at catchweights so not even legit titles either.
Manny Pacquiao - king fo fake titles
Floyd will prove just how weak pac really is and we will speak again...count on it.
@Midnightrambler3760 Put your money where your mouth is. I'm a betting man. But sadly Mayweather has no balls fighting Pacman and even turned down 65 Million Dollars for a Pacman fight. Give your balls to Mayweather first and stop the bullshit that the fight will happen.
@Midnightrambler3760 You're just a hater and a racist period. You're so envious of Pacman's achievement. I don't give a shit on your steriod accusation. Mayweather is facing a defamation lawsuit courtesy of Pacman and Pussy Boy is afraid to appear on the court LMAO. He is really scared of Pacman.
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac needs money? He's the richest sports person alive. Even US companies are getting Manny to endorse their products. Manny got so many endorsements. Floyd is just too scared to face PAcman or even say the name Pacman.
@Narutolicious Richest Athletes 1. Woods 2. Bryant 3. James 4. Federer 5. Mickelson 6. Beckham 7. Ronaldo 8. Rodriguez 9. Schumacher 10. Messi Manny pacquiao was tied for 24th. This list does not even list retired athletes like Michael Jordan.
@Midnightrambler3760 People like you need to think before you open your mouth. Now that Pacquiao has beaten Cotto, Margarito,Clottey, these fighters are no good. these are the same fighters that your "pussy" boy Mayweather are ducking when he was not retired. You want Pacquiao to fight Martinez..if he beats him, next kelly Pavlik, then all the way to Heavyweights to fight Klitscko brothers. You are a fucking idiot for not recognizing people for their accomplishment because you don't like them.
@Midnightrambler3760 Cotto and Margarito will KO Ortiz and Bradley. Those are much bum compared to them. Undefeated don't mean shit. ON their prime don't mean shit. A prime Maidana was almost schooled by Aging Morales. Chris John is undefeated. Rocky Marciano is undefeated. Are they better than Ali? Are they better than Sugar Ray?
@Narutolicious If 1 pound does not matter then why did Pac demand 145 lbs?
How do you knwo how heavy Cotto got between fights. Maybe cotto had to kill himslef to get to 146 lbs and that extra pound was impossible and drained him.
I still think it is funny that you say pac will fight Klitschko when Cotto was too heavy at 147 lbs, TOO FUNNY
@Midnightrambler3760 I didn't say Pac will fight Klitsikos are you dumb? I said the likes of you will probably say that he should fight Klitsihkos coz you guys are not contended of who Pacquiao fights even if its 3-4 weightclass above. Find someone of his own size. He's been fighting the likes of Margarito 17 lbs heavier and you haters didn't appreciate that. Just watch the few remaining fights of Pacman and enjoy coz he will retire in 3 years from now. Just enjoy don't hate.
@Narutolicious When did pac ever fight 3-4 weight classes above his natural weight? Freddie ROach said 145 is pac's perfect weight. pac has in the 140's now for a few years. Even when he fought BArerra and Morlaes pac was coming in over 140 lbs.
Who cares if Margarito is 17 lbs heavier he is a bum.
@Narutolicious You need to stop believing everything you read in the Manila newspapers. In an interview last week Floyd laughed at the bogus $65 million offer.
He challenged the gentleman to deposit the $65 million in a neutral bank account until fight time and guess what....it has not happened, LMAO!!
@Midnightrambler3760 Floyd has signed a contract? LMAO. He can't even say the word Pacquiao. He so scared hearing the name itself. Mayweather has ducked Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Martinez and Pacquiao.
@Narutolicious Floyd was the only one who signed for March 2010, pac did not.
You show how little you know when you say Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito, I will not even bother trying to educate you. LOL @ Clottey. All B class bums anyway.
As for Martinez, Pac claimed to be a JMW champion when he won the catchweight title against Margarito. Martinez challenged pac and pac backed down, LMAO at fake title.
@Narutolicious I guess they never told teh people in manila that that Floyd signed the contract.
Floyd signed the contract and Arum then took it to Manila for Pac to sign. Arum then returned and announced that pac had signed the contract but then admitte dthe next day that he had lied and the contract was still not signed by pac.
Then the next day they decided to make the testing an issue and never signed...instead pac ran away to cherrypick a b class bum like clottey.
@Midnightrambler3760 Floyd never singed a fucking contract are you dumb? Pacman never agreed yet to his terms and conditions of random blood test. Why will Pussy boy sign the contract if Pacman doesn't agree yet to his demand? Are you plain stupid? Even graders can analyze why Mayweather never signed a contract because of his ridiculous demands of putting the drug commission on his hands. Just fight. Mayweather is all talk no show.
@Narutolicious Floyd signed teh contract to fight in March 2010. I know you do not like it or want to believe it because it shows just how wrong pac fans are but it happened.
Pac and Roach both said they agreed to the demands but when floyd sent the signed contract the quickly changed their minds.
It is pac who is using the testing as an excuse to avoid floyd.
@Midnightrambler3760 Floyd signed the contract even if Pacman didn't agreed yet to his demands? I'm not a lawyer or a political science student but I'm not dumb. How can he signed that contract if Manny never agreed to his demands? Answer? No contract was signed. Period.
@Narutolicious But didn't arum send floyd a BS contract for November and then complain when he did not sign it? Wasn't that the point of the ridiculous countdown?
I will quote you...."How can he sign a contract when Floyd never agreed to his demands"?
@Midnightrambler3760 That was another negotiation, stating Pac already agreed to random blood test. They called Mayweather's bluff LMAO. Pussy boy nowhere to be found.
@Narutolicious There was no negotiation, just arum sending one BS offer which was even worse than March. Top Rank writer michael marley has admitted it.
Freddie Roach has even admitte dthat pac's position on testing has not changed. pac also refused random testing for Mosley...too funny
@Narutolicious If you want to count pac's 8 titles then you have to count the KO in which he lost his first title.
Funny how the KO's are in the past but the titles aren't.
You cannot say the KO's were a long time ago don't live in the past but then count 8 titles. If that is the case then you must also count the fact that Pac was knocked out in his frist title defense, LMAO!!
Pac should bring his 8 titles into the ring with Floyd because pac will need something to hide behind.
@Midnightrambler3760 Don't dig the past. Mayweather lost in his amateur 6 times that's why he's 0 loss in pro. Pacquiao didn't have amateur days. He went straight to pro at 16. Pacquiao was very poor as a child and even dropped out of high school in order to try and find work. So the KO's of the past are due to poor conditioning and nutrition. He was skinny back then. But that was changed when he met Roach. After that he got a nutritionist and conditioning coach so no more KOs for him.
@reigncourt5 Pac's best defesne is to run from a drug test.
Let me understand this...Floyd is fighting a WW champion coming off the biggest win of his career and pac is fighting a 40 year old LW and it is Floyd who is hiding?
Why did you hero wait another 3 years to fight Marquez? Was he afraid of 37 year old Marquez would beat him "AGAIN" so he waited until he was 40?
@reigncourt5 Floyd will be fighting a WW cnapion who will come into teh ring at 160 lbs, pac will fight a 40 year old LW who Floyd schooled 2 years ago.
Thank you for the information. I think it is helpful for fans, and observers to realize that Pacman has weighed essentially the same, on fight-nights, for the last several years. I suppose he just did well, making weight (w/ the dehydration and all), and rehydrating successfully, whilst retaining most of his strength and endurance.
It´s nice to see Pacquiao is compared against great fighter champions of all times. Honestly for me, the greatness of Pacquiao is the way how he fights. It´s like an art, seems he´s dancing. His works of ethics is phenomenal. Most fighters come in to the ring and box as boxers. But not Pacquiao, his angles, his footwork and the way he avoids his opponent, really a pleasure to watch. Very artistic.
Yup, even in featherweight days when pacquiao was fighting with the weight of a welterweight, you can clearly see how his body got bigger, but maintains the same weight as of today.
just imagine if weight in is made tha day of the fight he can fight martinez at 154 coz he has no chance to rehydrate to 175 lbs. he'll demolish sergio. So now its clear catchweight is made coz its not fair coz pple rehydrate 10-15 lbs a day of the fight.
@jcsgasco It is simple, if Pac is too small to fight at full JMW then he should not fight there and should not claim to be a champion in that division.
Stop the BS Manny, if you are a WW then fight at WW.
yes if today ppl are weigh in at the time of the fight then pac would not have asked for catchweight and he would have demolished boxers who are taller than him with the same wegiht. imagin if he faced margarito at 150 lbs instead of 165. if he fought hatton at at 140 lbs instead of 152 lbs and clottey at 147 isntead of 160 lbs. or even sergio at 150 instead of 175 lbs. it would make a very big difference coz of rehydration 10-15 lbs at fight night.
@reigncourt5 If a prime Pacquiao would fight a prime Henry Armstrong or a prime SRR, that prime Pacquiao would beat them both. And that is because of the advancement in the science of boxing. Even a prime Duran would murder both boxing legends. So the best match up or comparison would be a prime Pacquiao and a prime Duran. Can you do that one please?
@Midnightrambler3760 I am sorry but I beg to differ. With prime Duran or prime Leonard, he will have a very difficult time, but will eventually win. Then he will gobble up the prime SRR and prime Armstrong for desserts. Maybe you would want to see this - watch?v=KgeWv1-wTcE&feature=related. These 4 boxing legends have little, if any, knowledge in martial arts except boxing. Pacquiao has it and has been using it in boxing. If it is legit or not is now the question.
@benjiernmd pac could not even handle a past-prime Morlaes and you think he could handle SRL, Duran, Hearns, SRR and Armstrong.
Pac demanded a catchweight for cotto because 2lbs was too much. Armstrong won the undisputed WW championship and weighed in at 133.5 lbs (NO CATCHWEIGHT REQUESTED)
Armstrong also fought for the MW championship and weighed in at 143 lbs (NO CATCHWEIGHT REQUESTED)
@Midnightrambler3760 Have you seen how Armstrong fought Garcia, the bolo puncher, in this video? Do you honestly think that kind of style will defeat Pacquiao? Honestly? As I have said before, the science of boxing has improved through the years. You do not charge in front of Pacquiao with your head first. Remember Hatton? And as I have implied before, the two best boxers who could give Pacquiao a difficult time would be SRL and Duran. Then follows Hearns and Hagler.
@Midnightrambler3760 Have you seen Pac demolished Morales on their 2nd & 3rd fights? For me, the Marquez fights should have been a win for Pacquiao on the 1st and a draw on the 2nd. Let us wait for the 3rd one and we will talk about it. Am I insane to run in my mind the fantasy match ups of Pac with Hagler and Hearns at JMW, and Duran and SRL at WW? Heck, I would pay $100 for each fight if only it could happen. Win or lose, Pac would not back down from them, and that is what I like in him.
@Midnightrambler3760 What I have been saying is what Mr. Russ Anber has said before. That you do not walk straight to Pac, try to bully him or whatever might be your idea of it, with your head exposed, specially Pac with a murderous punch and accurate barrage of punches. Floyd's style would have been a better one in that case. That is why I want to see Floyd's defense against Pac's offense. I just hope it happens. And for me, Duran's style would have been the best style against Pac.
@benjiernmd I think you will change your mind when you see how easily Floyd beats pac in the most
overhyped mismatch in boxing history.
Why do you say pac is accurate? Pac is far from accurate. Pac missed almost 1,000 punches against Clottey.
Why would anybody walk straight at anybody?
I think best style against pac would have been Hearns jab and teh right hand when pac jumped in. The 'Motor CIty Cobra" would have made Pac pay a heavy price.
@Midnightrambler3760 The problem with that is once Pac-man gets in a few hard combo's to Hearns head, and he would eventually, he'd be on queer street like when Leonard rocked him.. And Clottey is that good of a fighter that he has polished his defense so that very few can penetrate it is no reflection on the Pac-man's skills.If Pacquiao can rush Floyd backing him against the ropes like Dela Hoya did then he can tee off on Floyd like no one else ever did. Its still a great fight though.
@matizaph No way Pac gets anywhere near Hearns. Hearn's jab keeps pac in no-man's land.
Leoanrd is much taller with amuch longer reach than Pacquiao. pac woudl need to stand a lot closer to Hearns than leonard did.
Also, Floyd fought Oscar at full JMW. Oscar was 17 lbs heavier than Floyd in the ring. Pac will not have that size advantage, in fact Pac will be much smaller than Floyd.
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac-man's power transcends any 10 or 15lb weight advantage of his opponent. Speed and explosiveness rule at the end of the day on this one. Floyd is perhaps the only one out their who possibly take pac-man. The plan of Pac-man will be not to give Floyd a chance to rest or even think. Floyd does not fight good against fighters who are explosive and who have power and take it to him. Castillo although not nearly as quick as Pac-man showed this.Besides Floyd is afraid of him.
@matizaph If Pac's power transcends weight advantages, why has he asked for catchweights in 2 of his last 4 fights. And why did he have a rehydration clause against Clottey?
Overcoming a size disadvantage against an unskileed face first opponenet like Margarito is not the same a overcoming it against Floyd Mayweather.
@matizaph I laugh at pac fans when they bring up Castillo. They need to go back to 2002 to find a guy who gave Floyd any trouble. But when someone mentions a pac loss they say "that was in the past".
First of all, Floyd moved up to fight Castillo and Castillo has a huge weight advantage in the ring, pac will not have that against Floyd. Second, Floyd fought Castillo with a broken hand and torn rotator.
Not sure how you can compare Floyd/Castillo to Floyd/pac.
@matizaph If you think floyd ia afraid of Pacquiao then you have been reading too many Bob arum press releases.
Floyd is the only one who has signed a contract to fight, pac never signed it. Arum has been keeping pac away from Floyd, even Top Rank writer Michael Marley admitted it.
You analysis of Flody Pac is 100% inaccurate. You will be shocked when you see Floyd put pac on his ass once again.
@matizaph I think the best measurement of how pac will do against Floyd is how poorly he did against the counterpunching Marquez and Marquez is nowhere near as skilled a counterpuncher as Floyd.
Even Richardson said last weekend....., "after seeing Shane fight both Floyd and Manny up close there is no doubt in my mind that it will be an easy win for Floyd".
Richardson also said "When shane adjusted his strategy Manny could not adapt. Floyd will confuse and frustrate Manny".
@Midnightrambler3760 Thats where your wrong. I'm probably older than you. Been around a few gyms and lived through the greatest period of welterweight action in history 1979-1983 loving every minute of it. Hearns is great. But Pacman for what he's done and continues to do is greater. I respect Richardson too, but he's been wrong before.I feel that Floyd is very leary of Pac-man and will fight a each round to basically survive until he feels confident. Then we will have a good fight.
@Midnightrambler3760 Its making the best out a bad situation Theres not much good competition that will draw big money..Arum a good promoter. Why do you attack Pac-man on his choice of oppononts. You are starting to sound like a hater man. I respect Floyd Think he's one of the best. Just don't think He will dominate Pac-man.Hearn's could definitely clean the division out accept for possibly Pac-man and Floyd. Pacs ability to explode with power gives him a chance. Especially in the latter rounds.
@matizaph I am attacking pac's choice of opponents because since Marquez II they have been nothing but a string of cherrypicks. Anyone who knows boxing can see it.
Anybody who bought the PPV's for Pac vs Mosley, Margarito or Clotty is a fool and Bob Arum is laughing at you.
As for hearns, his incredibel jab with an 11" reach advantage is decisive and if pac happens to get through the jab the right hand!! I do not think pac gets out of round 3.
@Midnightrambler3760 The great Marciano was a fighter with integrity and honor who happened to fight at a time when some of the best names in heavyweight boxing were past their primes. Walcott,Moore,Charles and Louis were ko'd by the Rock. His managers sent him in there with them and money was made.But rock was a great person.I think pac is too.We need to stop hating and respect fighters for what they have to endure.
@Midnightrambler3760 The great Marciano was a fighter with integrity and honor who happened to fight at a time when some of the best names in heavyweight boxing were past their primes. Walcott,Moore,Charles and Louis were ko'd by the Rock. His managers sent him in there with them and money was made.But rock was a great person.I think Pac is too.We need to stop hating and respect fighters for what they have to endure.
@matizaph Floyd is not leary of Pac..in fact for the March fight Roach demanded 8 oz gloves and a 20' ring and Floyd said "OK"
That scared Roach and that is why the fight did not happen, nothing to do with drug testing. Roach had originally said they agreed to the testing, Arum even said pac had signed the contract.
Then they reconsidered Floyd's intentions and realized he would beat pac up on the inside, they used testing as an excuse to back out.
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac couldn't adapt! Mosley felt his power and thought better about attacking too. Thats just it. Floyd will show his counter punching ability and adjust his strategy until he sees what most of Pac's opponents see. That blinding speed of hands. Then they don't want to engage unless they are like Margarita.We know Floyd is faster than Shane of late.He's precse and measured in his attack. But Pacs got speed and fierceness. Anyway you cut this pie its gonna be good.
@matizaph Yes and when Mosley stopped attacking pac could not get to him.
Floyd is not only faster than Shane, Floyd is faster than Pacquiao. When they fight it will be apparent quite early and you will say to yourself 'Why didn't I see this?"
@Midnightrambler3760 I watch those fights over and over again. I'm sure you do too. For a while I was trying to figure out who was faster Floyd or Pac. I realized they fight differently and have speed in different areas. Floyd is like a mongoose. Slick, precise and measured. He has the fastest left hook in boxing. Pac has explosive speed if you can call it that, which is what gives him his power. He is at his fastest rushing in with his right jab and left cross.Plus he can switch up on you to.
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac could not get to Shane because Shane was backing up out of respect, which is something he didn't do against Floyd. If you watch Shane vs Floyd carefully you'll see Shane coming forward to Floyd after the 2nd round up till the final bell. Had he fought Pac that way the fight would've been over in the third round.Pac woulda got him. I know Shane went down since his fight with Floyd. But he did look better against Pac. He didn't look drained like when he fought Floyd.
@matizaph thats because floyd took his heart that night! pac was fighting a shell of what floyd fought, and he still couldn't impose his will and take shane out
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac couldn't adapt! Mosley felt his power and thought better about attacking too. Thats just it. Floyd will show his counter punching ability and adjust his strategy until he sees what most of Pac's opponents see.The power and blinding speed of hands. Then they don't want to engage unless they are like Margarita.We know Floyd is faster than Shane of late.He's precse and measured in his attack. But Pacs got speed and fierceness. Anyway you cut this pie its gonna be good.
@benjiernmd I believe Floyd has too much for Pac. Pac fans are actually starting to believe Bob Arum's press releases based on his recent cherrypicks against guys like Cotto, Clottey and Margarito.
The last counterpuncher pac faced was Marquez and Marquez made him look very ordinary.
@benjiernmd Naseem Richardson said this week that he has seen both Floyd and Pac up close against his fighter (Mosley) and based on what he saw he thinks Floyd will have absolutely no problem with Pac.
He said Pac struggled and did not know what to do when Mosley adjusted. How will he do against the best adjuster on the planet?
hey who made this video is a dumbass
crazymanjonchin 1 month ago
tale of the tape FAKE he change the numbers fuker!
LUCKY4908 2 months ago
some photos are edited! tale of the tape
l3gr3t 3 months ago
good song ;)
Szakalus12345 4 months ago
this video suck's it gay it fake just another pactard tryin to defend pacroid....PEACE
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
@1SugarRayRobinson1 ....man your right..
VallaeBoy 7 months ago
By the way, Mayweather's demand are just an alibi to get out of the fight. He doesn't want a piece of Pac why will he run on the biggest fight in history? Pac never agreed coz its a ridiculous demand its like giving the 1st round to Pussy boy. Clean the sport of boxing? Bullshit, I just hope he will make Ortiz subject to Random Blood Testing also otherwise he's just a pussy ducking Pacquiao.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Pac did not sign because he would rather fight face first bums like margarito and 40 year olds.
Ortiz has already agreed to random testing. As did Mosley. The only person who is afraid of it is Pac.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Hahaha. You are simply jealous. Envious just like your pussy boy hiding taking a vacation. The fight with Ortiz is just an alibi for him not to come on court and face his lawsuit. Poor Pussy boy your idol is a criminal, women beater and security guard harasser. Hahaha i guess birds of the same feather flock together.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious You are somply scared because Floyd is back and it terrifies you. You know time is running out for pac and he will have to face flody once and for all, Pac cannot hide forever.
It is coming...Floyd will humiliate pacroid in the most overhyped mismatch in boxing history....you shoudl start working on the usual excsues for when pac loses.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 You wish. Pac will KO your pussy boy. Pussy can run all night but Pac will find him and once he does. Bye bye Floyd. A good night for him. His shoulder roll is useless against south paws. He stands no chance against Pacquiao. Pussy boy will meet his Karma for cherrypicking guys to have undefeated records.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious I am done trying to educate you...you will only understadn when you see floyd put pacfraud on his little ass once and for all.
Pac should stick to fighting face first mexicans liek MArgarito and old men like Mosley and Marquez.
You will hear from me again..count on it!!
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 The thing is your pussy boy is busy hiding from Pac. Why are you saying Pussy boy will whoop Pacman's little ass? The fight ain't happening. It will only happen if Pussy boy grow some balls.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Pac cannot hide behind Bob Arum forever. Sooner or later he will have to face Floyd or admit to the world he is a cherrypicking coward.
But keep on believing Bob Arum press releases, the rest of the world already knows it is Roach and Pac who are hiding pac.
Even pac's own trainer and promoter are both well aware that Floyd will end his career. I wonder who pac will fight after Marquez...another 40 year old Mexican?
Run pac Run!
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Really? Pacman is busy fighting in the ring while Mayweather is busy beating women. Mayweather is busy with his tshirt, busy with his family, busy with his album, busy with 50 cent. He shows no interest in boxing because Pacman is active. How ironic you are saying Pacman is hiding, while he is the one active in boxing right now. Pussy chooses to fight Ortiz than to meet Pacman in court LMAO.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Floyd has a fight scheduled for September, how can you say he is not busy. Floyd only fights once a year becasue he makes more than Pacquiao and does not need to fight twice a year.
He fought Marquez in 2009, Mosley in 2010 will fight Ortiz in 2011 and will end pac's career in 2012.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 2012. I hope so so that i could shut up all you haters hahaha!
Narutolicious 8 months ago
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 We'll see. I will mark you buddy and then haunt you for life when manny KO your pussy boy.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious hahahah yea right pacroid had a tough time hitting shane mosley or should i say "oldsley" lol and how old was oldsley about 150 years old loool what makes u think pacroid gonna hit floyd how many puches is pacroid gonna land lol about 5 punches each round...................... loser pacfags dick rider
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
@1SugarRayRobinson1 Oldsley or Shame Mostley for quitting like a bitch after round 3's Knocked Down. Backpedalling bitch like Mayweather. He can run all night but he can't hide from Pacman. Pacman will KO your Pussyboy. Bet your house on it. Pacman is the best and on top of his game NOBODY can beat him right now.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
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1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
@Narutolicious when you reply to 1SugarRayRobinson1 , change his name to 1SugarGayRobinson1. it really pisses him off. :))
and he is a hatton fan. he's really sad that his idol fell on the 2nd round. he cant move on after that, that's why he dedicated his time and dignity in becoming a pacman TROLL. :))
Also this guy LOVES Teddy Atlas. what a douchebag. :)
pken21 7 months ago
@pken21. Hey loser mind ur own buissnes okay I just haked you:))) thats how I knew u commented here:))) hahahah ill give u one more chance or il start playing about with ur account.......n u wish I was gay coz u have been brought up by gay parent lol so tell me how is it like having gay parents? Do u get bullied for having gay parent? Lol loser:l ur also a coward blocking me lol. A coward move by GAY--->pken21<---GAY LOL
1SugarRayRobinson1 7 months ago
@Narutolicious i know one guy that can beat him. I will give you a hint, the rightful champ at the division where pac has his eight and record breaking title. Oh, he's too big, you will say but this great man has said that he will be generous and come down in weight to a catchweight of 150 pounds. We all know pac loves the catchweightas like a fat kid loves cake. So if pac was as great as you says he is man up and fight. So times up, the man that would put a beating on pac is sergio martinez
saur8 4 months ago
@Narutolicious LOl This isnt like Tyson in the 80s, then, he couldnt be beat at that time period, Manny has over and over shown his flaws, and it just so happens to be with the very same type of style Mayweather Masters in, you can go around youtube calling people haters all you want, but boxing fans like myself, i see guys like you as the biggest haters, you will talk shit about floyd for his mistakes, but pacmans mistakes are always justified with you guys.
BiggieSmalls11111 1 week ago
@Narutolicious What kind of pussy files a lawsuit, LMAO!
Why would floyd waste a day in court for $75,000 when he will make $25,000 per second against Ortiz?
GB told Arum when you are ready let us know and Pac has looked weak and tired in his last two fights. His shelf life is showing and after Marquez Arum will be anxious to get him in the ring with Floyd.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Reasons. He is just afraid of Pacman. He better not waste a day in the court or he'll be in jail. Hahaha pussy bunch of criminals. Your idol is a criminal I guess you're an ex-convict too. Or maybe or an ex-pusher or drug dealer. YUCK!!! I don't have time for a criminal like you LMAO. See you and your pussy boy in JAIL. ROFL!!!
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious so what if floyd goes to jail adleast he aint scared to go to jail is pacroid goes to jail hell get raped by black people and you know it LMAO!
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
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@Narutolicious so what if floyd goes to jail adleast he aint scared to go to jail if pacroid goes to jail he'l get raped by black people and you know it LMAO!
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT DOES LMAO! mean?
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
@1SugarRayRobinson1 LMAO - Laughing My Ass Off
Narutolicious 8 months ago
Whatever your Floyd can do, Manny can do it better. Period. Manny is the best while Floyd the cherrypicker, Xylocaine injector and ducker of all time. Even the Hall of Famers of boxing are disgusted with Floyd. Who is he? Stop the bullshit and fight.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
Pacquiao isn't a 1 dimensional fighter,he's a quick southpaw with terrific offensive skills , coordination and has great stamina..Floyd knows that too,that's why he's not fighting Him yet..
archidexterous20 8 months ago
Just looking at the tapes.... Pacquiao would have won.
StylinAzn 8 months ago
@StylinAzn Pac would have won?
Armstrong won the WW championship against the undisputed champion and he weighed in at 133 lbs, he did not ask for a catchweight. Pac needed a catchweight for a bum like cotto.
Armstrong fought for the MW title and weighed in at 144 lbs, he did not ask for a catchweight. Pac needed a catchweight at JMW for a bum like margarito.
Pac would never have gotten into the ring with armstrong. He would hide like he is hiding from Floyd.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Come fight night there are no catch weights Margarito came in at 165lbs on fight night, clottey at about 160lbs. Stop with the catch weights already. Catch weights are only formalities, look at the weights on fight night. Even De La Hoya weighed more than Pacman when they fought. Just look at this video man, compare this to Pacmans worst fight so far against Mosely. Even on a bad day Pacman still would have won. Back in the day any dude off the street would'a been a boxer
StylinAzn 8 months ago
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StylinAzn 8 months ago
@StylinAzn This is where Pac fans do not understand the sport.
The whole point of makinga guy drain to a catchweight is that it does exactly that, it drains him. It is hard on the body to come down even an extra 2 lbs and then rehydrate. It takes it's toll.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@StylinAzn You are 100% incorrect..
Clottey had a rehydration clause and could not come in above 153 lbs. That was the smallest I have ever seen Clottey look in any fight.
Pac outweighed Oscar in the ring. Oscar could not rehydrate properly and his ring weight was 147 lbs while Pac's ring weight was 148.5 lbs.
So Pac outweighed Oscar by 1.5 lbs while OScar outweighed Floyd by 17 lbs in the ring. I laugh when people compare the fights..that is an 18.5 lb difference.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@StylinAzn If a catchweight is only a formality then why does pac demand them. Why did Pac need Cotto to come to 145 lbs when Pac was previously in teh ring at 148.5 for Oscar?
The point is Cotto has a hard time making 147 lbs. So making 145 lbs dehydrates him completely and even after rehydration it takes it's toll.
That is where the boxing term "dead at the weight" comes from.
Pac fans should actually learn something about the sport before they make ridiculous comments.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 OK I could see you're "trying" to prove your point...some points sound good but bottom line... it takes two to tango!! if catch weights are so bad then why do fighters accept them???????? I mean if you dont want to fight Pacquiao at a catch weight then just dont fight e.g.mayweather. All these fighters that accept catch weights know damn well what they are getting into. So your complaints about catch weights is BS!!!! They sign that contract its a done deal. They accept!!!
StylinAzn 8 months ago
@StylinAzn Do you think Cotto and Maragrito had a choice but to accept?
Pac accpeted a catchweight early in his career and ignored it and came in one pound over. He was knocked out anyway. He later complained that he was drained and that is why he lost.
Seems strange that you now say "All these fighters that accept catchweights know damn well what they are getting into" when your hero complained about the accept same thing...or have you forgotten that?
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@StylinAzn Sooner or later pac will lose a couple of fights and will no longer be holding all of the negotiating cards.
It will be interesting when this happens and Pac is then desperate to get a fight with Floyd and Floyd says "OK, but at 154 lbs". Pac having no choice will have to accept.
I am sure Pac fans will be whining and complaining that Floyd is using his position to get and advantage while they now excuse pac of doing the same thing to Cotto and Margarito..
Hypocisy!!
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 You talking "what if"... lets talk reality. floyd is not fighting Pacman period!! The whole world see's floyd as a Coward!!! (ESPN). Now fact, floyd is a racist, wife beater, bully, child beater. In fact he just recently failed to show up at a court ordered proceeding...criminal. If this is who you choose to support... well then... I guess birds of a feather. You seem like a smart guy... but really if you support... a trash talking criminal. Then no more needs to be said.
StylinAzn 8 months ago
@StylinAzn Everyone knoes it is Arum who is keeping Pac away from Floyd. Top Rank writer Michael Marley has even admitted it.
He said "A match up with Floyd is the last thing Arum wants for 2010 and 2011" He also said that Arum sent a ridiculous offer for November 2010 because he already had Margarito lined up. He said Floyd's manager told Arum to contact him again when he want to be serious. he has not heard back from Arum.
How many senior citizens will Pac fight this year?
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@StylinAzn What does Floyd's personal life have to do with his skill in the ring? Regardless if you consider Floyd a criminal or not it does not change the fact that he will school pac in the most overhyped mismatch in boxing history.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
catch weights are bullshit, if manny was a real champion coming up in weight he should just fight the fighter at there natural weight, & prove to the world he can beat them at there best, whats next a light heavy weight title at 147 catchweight??
SSLB3LLGARD3N13 9 months ago
@SSLB3LLGARD3N13 Pac will next fight Queen Latifah, but he will make her sweat down to 145 lbs.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
I don't know where you've been man. It is always good strategy to get the advantage for your fighter. If it was up to Pac-man he fight Floyd any way he wants. Pac-man has integrity. Manager's will always do this kind a thing. Ali used to demand the largest ring size. A manager would be dumb not to do this.Thats boxing! No bearing on the facts That both will make a darn good fight. Its Pac-man's speed, explosiveness and intensity vs Floyd's Quickness & counter punching. Its a good fight !!!
matizaph 9 months ago
The explosiveness of Pacquiao is due to his strong legs that propel him in and upon his opponent like lightening. At some point Hearns has got to catch a combo which hurts him. Hearns among all the best welters of all times had the weakest chin. This explosive ability of Pac-man is what gives his opponents their biggest problems. Hearns had speed too and the best jab of the welters so it would be a good fight. But Pac-man can turn it on in the latter rounds when hearns is starting to weaken.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph Pac has a weak chin and a weak body. Pac has been KO'd twice, once with a body shot and knocked down by a nameless russian. Even Marquez wobbled pac numerous times.
Marquez almost bent pac in half with a body shot.
Anyway, i will not argue about hearns any more because I doubt you ever even saw him fight and you do not know enough about the psort to have an intelligent conversation.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Glenn Johnson has lost so many times it ain't funny. No bearing on the facts.And Where was Floyd during Cotto's and Margarita's peak years?STRATEGY!!! Pacs more compact at 144 to 147.He's more explosive at welter. His legs got stronger and his confidence too. Marquez will have a harder time with Pac-man this time around.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph I was not aware that Margarito had a peak. Cotto and Margarito's peak was a 1-1 round robin with each other and Mosley.
They said Marquez would have a harder tiome with pac teh 2nd time. They said Pac had improved, gotten faster, stronger and nothing changed.
The only thing different this time is that Marquez will be 40 years old.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 I was referring to Floyd's timely retirement after his bout with Dela Hoya instead of fighting Cotto or Margarito who had not fought each other yet. He came back only after Cotto was badly beaten, and Margarito was knocked out by Mosley and suspended. We don't know what Floyd was really facing in his life but it did look suspicious. In regards to Marquez, he will have a harder time against Pac because Pac is a more complete fighter than he was in their 2nd fight.
matizaph 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Floyd didn't even give Dela Hoya the rematch that was expected. Money was there to be made. Whats up with that?
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph Too funny. It was the boxing writers who laughed at the idea of a rematch of Floyd/Oscar. Nobody wanted to see it.
Pac did not give Marquez a rematch after a draw and made him wait 3 years.
Pac did not give Marquez a rematch after a 1 pt split decision and again made him wait 3 years until he is 40. Yet he gave Morlaes an immediate rematch after a KO.
What is up with that?
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
That is a good analyses. I always thought Pacquiao reminded me of Duran with his explosiveness, foot movement and fierceness. At lightweight Duran would take him but their would be some tremendous exchanges. At welterweight that would be a toss up as Pac-man has gotten little better since fighting at welter. The older fighters from before the 80's were just not as advanced physically as well as technique wise.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph How do you know Pac has gotten better at welter? based on what? Cherrypicks liek Cotto, Clotty, Margarito, old mosley and a drained Oscar?
Not exactly "A" level competition.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
Its funny hearing things like "PAC has no defense" from flomos, when all they have to do is watch PAC vs ODLH and they will see PAC displaying his skills in defense fighting a TALLER and a fighter with ridiculous REACH ADVANTAGE. PAC virtually never got hit in that fight, and yet they say PAC has no defense. Henry Armstrong is an easy target for PAC, he barely moved in this clip. Henry Armstrong is like David Diaz and Hatton in this clip.
mighk21 10 months ago
@mighk21 You are basing Pac's defense on how he did against a washed up Oscar?
Pac was knocked on his ass by a 39 year old Mosley.
Against Marquez, Pac landed half as many punches and was hit 3 times more than Floyd.
Pac's best defense is Roach's cherrypicks, nothing else.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 what was that again?? can you repeat what you just said? Mosley Knocked down PAC? bwahahahaha I guess your that same nigger that called that push a Knock down Go Fuck yourself with that bwahahahaha
mighk21 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac was knocked down? stop being a sour loser. hahahahhha
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Under the rules of boxing Pac was knocked down by Mosley.
he was also KO'd by Torrecampo and Singsurat and he was knocked down by a russian. pac has been down many times so no big deal.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 under the rules? bayless personally approached Pacman and says sorry coz it was a bad call. Loser. Hahahaha 8 belts in 8 different divisions in your face.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious What does 8 fake titles have to do with whether he was knocked down or not?
Pac KO'd twice and knocked down twice...in pac's face, LMAO!!
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 so what if he was knocked down? That was a long time ago. Don't live in the past. The present is now 8 titles in 8 different weight division. Eat that bitch!
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious One of the titles is a ring magazine title and therefore not a real world title. 2 other titles were won at catchweights so not even legit titles either.
Manny Pacquiao - king fo fake titles
Floyd will prove just how weak pac really is and we will speak again...count on it.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Put your money where your mouth is. I'm a betting man. But sadly Mayweather has no balls fighting Pacman and even turned down 65 Million Dollars for a Pacman fight. Give your balls to Mayweather first and stop the bullshit that the fight will happen.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious That $65 million is nothing but an internet rumor. It is easy for some flip gangster to say it but did he actually put the money up?
Pac turned down a real $50 mil over a drug test.
So which is it....is Pac afraid of the test or is he afraid of Floyd? I think both.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 You're just a hater and a racist period. You're so envious of Pacman's achievement. I don't give a shit on your steriod accusation. Mayweather is facing a defamation lawsuit courtesy of Pacman and Pussy Boy is afraid to appear on the court LMAO. He is really scared of Pacman.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious I would be embarrassed if Floyd filed a lawsuit because someone hurt his feelings.
Booh hooh, big bad floyd insulted me.....file a lawsuit, LMAO
Pac is too much of a coward to fight Floyd in the ring so he needs to hide behind his lawyers.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Why would floyd spend a day in court for $75,000. He made that for 7 seconds against Mosley.
I guess pac really needs the money, LMAO!!
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac needs money? He's the richest sports person alive. Even US companies are getting Manny to endorse their products. Manny got so many endorsements. Floyd is just too scared to face PAcman or even say the name Pacman.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Pa is nowhere near teh richest sports person alive. He is not even the richest boxer in the world.
Pac needs to stop hiding behing jinky's skirt.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 He is dude. Watch the news.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Tiger Woods is the worlds richest athlete.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 sorry i meant richest boxer fag.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 haha pactard u got owned pacfag is a pussy
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 People like you need to think before you open your mouth. Now that Pacquiao has beaten Cotto, Margarito,Clottey, these fighters are no good. these are the same fighters that your "pussy" boy Mayweather are ducking when he was not retired. You want Pacquiao to fight Martinez..if he beats him, next kelly Pavlik, then all the way to Heavyweights to fight Klitscko brothers. You are a fucking idiot for not recognizing people for their accomplishment because you don't like them.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Only pac fans thing Cotto, Margarito and clottey were anything besides B class bums.
Cotto was smoked by Margarito
Margarito was smoked by Mosley
Clottey was coming off a loss to Cotto
Bums all bums
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Cotto and Margarito will KO Ortiz and Bradley. Those are much bum compared to them. Undefeated don't mean shit. ON their prime don't mean shit. A prime Maidana was almost schooled by Aging Morales. Chris John is undefeated. Rocky Marciano is undefeated. Are they better than Ali? Are they better than Sugar Ray?
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Pac was schooled by an ageing Morlaes also.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Narutolicious LMAO
Pac will fight the Klitschko brothers? he wouldn;t even fight Cotto unless he came to 145 lbs because 147 was just too heavy.
You are an idiot.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Cotto was 146 lbs when he fought Clottey. No big deal.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious If 1 pound does not matter then why did Pac demand 145 lbs?
How do you knwo how heavy Cotto got between fights. Maybe cotto had to kill himslef to get to 146 lbs and that extra pound was impossible and drained him.
I still think it is funny that you say pac will fight Klitschko when Cotto was too heavy at 147 lbs, TOO FUNNY
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 I didn't say Pac will fight Klitsikos are you dumb? I said the likes of you will probably say that he should fight Klitsihkos coz you guys are not contended of who Pacquiao fights even if its 3-4 weightclass above. Find someone of his own size. He's been fighting the likes of Margarito 17 lbs heavier and you haters didn't appreciate that. Just watch the few remaining fights of Pacman and enjoy coz he will retire in 3 years from now. Just enjoy don't hate.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious When did pac ever fight 3-4 weight classes above his natural weight? Freddie ROach said 145 is pac's perfect weight. pac has in the 140's now for a few years. Even when he fought BArerra and Morlaes pac was coming in over 140 lbs.
Who cares if Margarito is 17 lbs heavier he is a bum.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Narutolicious You need to stop believing everything you read in the Manila newspapers. In an interview last week Floyd laughed at the bogus $65 million offer.
He challenged the gentleman to deposit the $65 million in a neutral bank account until fight time and guess what....it has not happened, LMAO!!
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 You need to stop believing Mayweather has the balls to fight Pacman.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Floyd is the only one who has ever signed a contract with both their names on it, Pac has not and never will.
Pac needs to stop hiding behind Arum.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Floyd has signed a contract? LMAO. He can't even say the word Pacquiao. He so scared hearing the name itself. Mayweather has ducked Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Martinez and Pacquiao.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Floyd was the only one who signed for March 2010, pac did not.
You show how little you know when you say Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito, I will not even bother trying to educate you. LOL @ Clottey. All B class bums anyway.
As for Martinez, Pac claimed to be a JMW champion when he won the catchweight title against Margarito. Martinez challenged pac and pac backed down, LMAO at fake title.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Mayweather signed no fucking contract. I guess you're on Maynever 's payroll.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious I guess they never told teh people in manila that that Floyd signed the contract.
Floyd signed the contract and Arum then took it to Manila for Pac to sign. Arum then returned and announced that pac had signed the contract but then admitte dthe next day that he had lied and the contract was still not signed by pac.
Then the next day they decided to make the testing an issue and never signed...instead pac ran away to cherrypick a b class bum like clottey.
Too funny
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Floyd never singed a fucking contract are you dumb? Pacman never agreed yet to his terms and conditions of random blood test. Why will Pussy boy sign the contract if Pacman doesn't agree yet to his demand? Are you plain stupid? Even graders can analyze why Mayweather never signed a contract because of his ridiculous demands of putting the drug commission on his hands. Just fight. Mayweather is all talk no show.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious Floyd signed teh contract to fight in March 2010. I know you do not like it or want to believe it because it shows just how wrong pac fans are but it happened.
Pac and Roach both said they agreed to the demands but when floyd sent the signed contract the quickly changed their minds.
It is pac who is using the testing as an excuse to avoid floyd.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Floyd signed the contract even if Pacman didn't agreed yet to his demands? I'm not a lawyer or a political science student but I'm not dumb. How can he signed that contract if Manny never agreed to his demands? Answer? No contract was signed. Period.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious But didn't arum send floyd a BS contract for November and then complain when he did not sign it? Wasn't that the point of the ridiculous countdown?
I will quote you...."How can he sign a contract when Floyd never agreed to his demands"?
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 That was another negotiation, stating Pac already agreed to random blood test. They called Mayweather's bluff LMAO. Pussy boy nowhere to be found.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious There was no negotiation, just arum sending one BS offer which was even worse than March. Top Rank writer michael marley has admitted it.
Freddie Roach has even admitte dthat pac's position on testing has not changed. pac also refused random testing for Mosley...too funny
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Narutolicious If you want to count pac's 8 titles then you have to count the KO in which he lost his first title.
Funny how the KO's are in the past but the titles aren't.
You cannot say the KO's were a long time ago don't live in the past but then count 8 titles. If that is the case then you must also count the fact that Pac was knocked out in his frist title defense, LMAO!!
Pac should bring his 8 titles into the ring with Floyd because pac will need something to hide behind.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Don't dig the past. Mayweather lost in his amateur 6 times that's why he's 0 loss in pro. Pacquiao didn't have amateur days. He went straight to pro at 16. Pacquiao was very poor as a child and even dropped out of high school in order to try and find work. So the KO's of the past are due to poor conditioning and nutrition. He was skinny back then. But that was changed when he met Roach. After that he got a nutritionist and conditioning coach so no more KOs for him.
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@Narutolicious You forgot to mention steroids.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760
Mayweather's best defense is to hide behind a Fake Random Blood Test.
Lately he hides behind an Ortiz fight and let's see if he don't retire again after
the fight and after witnessing the outcome of Pac-Marquez trilogy. :lol:
reigncourt5 8 months ago
@reigncourt5 Pac's best defesne is to run from a drug test.
Let me understand this...Floyd is fighting a WW champion coming off the biggest win of his career and pac is fighting a 40 year old LW and it is Floyd who is hiding?
Why did you hero wait another 3 years to fight Marquez? Was he afraid of 37 year old Marquez would beat him "AGAIN" so he waited until he was 40?
Pac is a joke
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
@reigncourt5 Floyd will be fighting a WW cnapion who will come into teh ring at 160 lbs, pac will fight a 40 year old LW who Floyd schooled 2 years ago.
RUN PAC RUN
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago
Thank you for the information. I think it is helpful for fans, and observers to realize that Pacman has weighed essentially the same, on fight-nights, for the last several years. I suppose he just did well, making weight (w/ the dehydration and all), and rehydrating successfully, whilst retaining most of his strength and endurance.
soulinthewall77 10 months ago
@soulinthewall77 So you are saying that all the hype of Pac being the smaller guy is nothing but BS?
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
beware of this poser ... /user/IAMPACTARD
real big time pactard ... /user/maxkaamsut
maxkaamsut 10 months ago
It´s nice to see Pacquiao is compared against great fighter champions of all times. Honestly for me, the greatness of Pacquiao is the way how he fights. It´s like an art, seems he´s dancing. His works of ethics is phenomenal. Most fighters come in to the ring and box as boxers. But not Pacquiao, his angles, his footwork and the way he avoids his opponent, really a pleasure to watch. Very artistic.
chakyun0609 10 months ago
Yup, even in featherweight days when pacquiao was fighting with the weight of a welterweight, you can clearly see how his body got bigger, but maintains the same weight as of today.
4thKyuubi 10 months ago
And they had 15 rounds before. I guess lot of changes huh! We just have to enjoy the fight as much as we can.
retro1one 10 months ago
just imagine if weight in is made tha day of the fight he can fight martinez at 154 coz he has no chance to rehydrate to 175 lbs. he'll demolish sergio. So now its clear catchweight is made coz its not fair coz pple rehydrate 10-15 lbs a day of the fight.
jcsgasco 10 months ago
@jcsgasco It is simple, if Pac is too small to fight at full JMW then he should not fight there and should not claim to be a champion in that division.
Stop the BS Manny, if you are a WW then fight at WW.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
yes if today ppl are weigh in at the time of the fight then pac would not have asked for catchweight and he would have demolished boxers who are taller than him with the same wegiht. imagin if he faced margarito at 150 lbs instead of 165. if he fought hatton at at 140 lbs instead of 152 lbs and clottey at 147 isntead of 160 lbs. or even sergio at 150 instead of 175 lbs. it would make a very big difference coz of rehydration 10-15 lbs at fight night.
jcsgasco 10 months ago
@jcsgasco Rehydrating works both ways as pac has also been the bigger fighter against Marquez, Barerra, Morales and Diaz.
So following your logic these guys would have beaten Pac as Pac could not rehydrate and come in 6 pounds heavier than them.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@jcsgasco You also need to realize, if the weigh-in was on the same day then all you are doing is moving the divisions up.
Guys who now fight at JWW would fight at WW. Guys who now fight at WW would fight at JMW etc.
Pac would not have fought Margarito because Margarito would not be able to weight in at 150 on the day of the fight.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@reigncourt5 If a prime Pacquiao would fight a prime Henry Armstrong or a prime SRR, that prime Pacquiao would beat them both. And that is because of the advancement in the science of boxing. Even a prime Duran would murder both boxing legends. So the best match up or comparison would be a prime Pacquiao and a prime Duran. Can you do that one please?
benjiernmd 10 months ago
@benjiernmd Just been thru a lengthy discourse on Pac vs Duran. LOL
I'll try to put it up on video, after 2 more I'm working on. Nice analysis on
how the current best fighters have an advantage over the best in the past
era.
reigncourt5 10 months ago
@reigncourt5 Duran would have dominated Pacquaio in any division.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@reigncourt5 who do u think wuold win henry armstrong or manny pacquiao in thier prime
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
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@reigncourt5 who do u think would win henry armstrong or manny pacquiao in thier prime
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
@reigncourt5 Duran > Pacquiao > Armstrong
Narutolicious 8 months ago
@benjiernmd Are you insane?
A prime Duran, Armstrong or SRR would have eaten Manny Pacquaio for lunch.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 I am sorry but I beg to differ. With prime Duran or prime Leonard, he will have a very difficult time, but will eventually win. Then he will gobble up the prime SRR and prime Armstrong for desserts. Maybe you would want to see this - watch?v=KgeWv1-wTcE&feature=related. These 4 boxing legends have little, if any, knowledge in martial arts except boxing. Pacquiao has it and has been using it in boxing. If it is legit or not is now the question.
benjiernmd 9 months ago
@benjiernmd That is the funniset comment I have ever read, thanks for the laugh!!
Duran would have exposed Pac's weak defense and taken him apart piece by piece.
Leonard would have been just too quick and used his 5" height and 7" reach advantage.
Roach would not have put pac anywhere near Thomas Hearns.
As for SRR....please!!
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@benjiernmd pac could not even handle a past-prime Morlaes and you think he could handle SRL, Duran, Hearns, SRR and Armstrong.
Pac demanded a catchweight for cotto because 2lbs was too much. Armstrong won the undisputed WW championship and weighed in at 133.5 lbs (NO CATCHWEIGHT REQUESTED)
Armstrong also fought for the MW championship and weighed in at 143 lbs (NO CATCHWEIGHT REQUESTED)
Pac could not even go to JMW but needed 150 lbs.
Please...get off the pac bandwagon.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Have you seen how Armstrong fought Garcia, the bolo puncher, in this video? Do you honestly think that kind of style will defeat Pacquiao? Honestly? As I have said before, the science of boxing has improved through the years. You do not charge in front of Pacquiao with your head first. Remember Hatton? And as I have implied before, the two best boxers who could give Pacquiao a difficult time would be SRL and Duran. Then follows Hearns and Hagler.
benjiernmd 9 months ago
@benjiernmd Have you seen pac lose to a faded Morales and hang on for a draw and a SD decision against Marquez, please.
Hagler? Are you insane?
Pac won't even fight at full JMW and you expect him to beat the best MW champion ever? Don't even mention Hagler and pac in the same sentence.
Pac won't even fight Martinez because he is too big at JMW and you think he would beat Hagler at full MW?
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Have you seen Pac demolished Morales on their 2nd & 3rd fights? For me, the Marquez fights should have been a win for Pacquiao on the 1st and a draw on the 2nd. Let us wait for the 3rd one and we will talk about it. Am I insane to run in my mind the fantasy match ups of Pac with Hagler and Hearns at JMW, and Duran and SRL at WW? Heck, I would pay $100 for each fight if only it could happen. Win or lose, Pac would not back down from them, and that is what I like in him.
benjiernmd 9 months ago
@benjiernmd Demolished an old and faded Morlaes who lost 5 of 6 fights, he should have.
What is with pac fans and catchweights? Hagler is probably the greatest MW champion of all time why would he fight at JMW?
Pac only won 3 rounds in the first fight even roach admits it. In two fights against ,arquez pac was outscored on the judges cards by 13-9-2.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@benjiernmd As for Hearns, there is no chance in hell that Roach puts Pac anywhere near Hearns.
As for Duran, Roach has openly admitted that he thiks Duran is the best ever and he would beat pac.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@benjiernmd You comparing Armstrong to Hatton?
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 What I have been saying is what Mr. Russ Anber has said before. That you do not walk straight to Pac, try to bully him or whatever might be your idea of it, with your head exposed, specially Pac with a murderous punch and accurate barrage of punches. Floyd's style would have been a better one in that case. That is why I want to see Floyd's defense against Pac's offense. I just hope it happens. And for me, Duran's style would have been the best style against Pac.
benjiernmd 9 months ago
@benjiernmd I think you will change your mind when you see how easily Floyd beats pac in the most
overhyped mismatch in boxing history.
Why do you say pac is accurate? Pac is far from accurate. Pac missed almost 1,000 punches against Clottey.
Why would anybody walk straight at anybody?
I think best style against pac would have been Hearns jab and teh right hand when pac jumped in. The 'Motor CIty Cobra" would have made Pac pay a heavy price.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 The problem with that is once Pac-man gets in a few hard combo's to Hearns head, and he would eventually, he'd be on queer street like when Leonard rocked him.. And Clottey is that good of a fighter that he has polished his defense so that very few can penetrate it is no reflection on the Pac-man's skills.If Pacquiao can rush Floyd backing him against the ropes like Dela Hoya did then he can tee off on Floyd like no one else ever did. Its still a great fight though.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph No way Pac gets anywhere near Hearns. Hearn's jab keeps pac in no-man's land.
Leoanrd is much taller with amuch longer reach than Pacquiao. pac woudl need to stand a lot closer to Hearns than leonard did.
Also, Floyd fought Oscar at full JMW. Oscar was 17 lbs heavier than Floyd in the ring. Pac will not have that size advantage, in fact Pac will be much smaller than Floyd.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac-man's power transcends any 10 or 15lb weight advantage of his opponent. Speed and explosiveness rule at the end of the day on this one. Floyd is perhaps the only one out their who possibly take pac-man. The plan of Pac-man will be not to give Floyd a chance to rest or even think. Floyd does not fight good against fighters who are explosive and who have power and take it to him. Castillo although not nearly as quick as Pac-man showed this.Besides Floyd is afraid of him.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph If Pac's power transcends weight advantages, why has he asked for catchweights in 2 of his last 4 fights. And why did he have a rehydration clause against Clottey?
Overcoming a size disadvantage against an unskileed face first opponenet like Margarito is not the same a overcoming it against Floyd Mayweather.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@matizaph I laugh at pac fans when they bring up Castillo. They need to go back to 2002 to find a guy who gave Floyd any trouble. But when someone mentions a pac loss they say "that was in the past".
First of all, Floyd moved up to fight Castillo and Castillo has a huge weight advantage in the ring, pac will not have that against Floyd. Second, Floyd fought Castillo with a broken hand and torn rotator.
Not sure how you can compare Floyd/Castillo to Floyd/pac.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@matizaph If you think floyd ia afraid of Pacquiao then you have been reading too many Bob arum press releases.
Floyd is the only one who has signed a contract to fight, pac never signed it. Arum has been keeping pac away from Floyd, even Top Rank writer Michael Marley admitted it.
You analysis of Flody Pac is 100% inaccurate. You will be shocked when you see Floyd put pac on his ass once again.
Don't worry, I will be here to tell you so.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@matizaph I think the best measurement of how pac will do against Floyd is how poorly he did against the counterpunching Marquez and Marquez is nowhere near as skilled a counterpuncher as Floyd.
Even Richardson said last weekend....., "after seeing Shane fight both Floyd and Manny up close there is no doubt in my mind that it will be an easy win for Floyd".
Richardson also said "When shane adjusted his strategy Manny could not adapt. Floyd will confuse and frustrate Manny".
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Thats where your wrong. I'm probably older than you. Been around a few gyms and lived through the greatest period of welterweight action in history 1979-1983 loving every minute of it. Hearns is great. But Pacman for what he's done and continues to do is greater. I respect Richardson too, but he's been wrong before.I feel that Floyd is very leary of Pac-man and will fight a each round to basically survive until he feels confident. Then we will have a good fight.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph What exactly does pac continue to do? Win fake titles against face-first cherrypicks?
Come on - Margarito, Clottey, Cotto, old Mosley, is there any of those that the "Motor City Cobra" would not have dusted quickly?
Hearns went up against Hagler at full middleweight, pac needed a bum like Margarito to come to a catchweight at 150lbs.
Please!!
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Its making the best out a bad situation Theres not much good competition that will draw big money..Arum a good promoter. Why do you attack Pac-man on his choice of oppononts. You are starting to sound like a hater man. I respect Floyd Think he's one of the best. Just don't think He will dominate Pac-man.Hearn's could definitely clean the division out accept for possibly Pac-man and Floyd. Pacs ability to explode with power gives him a chance. Especially in the latter rounds.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph I am attacking pac's choice of opponents because since Marquez II they have been nothing but a string of cherrypicks. Anyone who knows boxing can see it.
Anybody who bought the PPV's for Pac vs Mosley, Margarito or Clotty is a fool and Bob Arum is laughing at you.
As for hearns, his incredibel jab with an 11" reach advantage is decisive and if pac happens to get through the jab the right hand!! I do not think pac gets out of round 3.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 The great Marciano was a fighter with integrity and honor who happened to fight at a time when some of the best names in heavyweight boxing were past their primes. Walcott,Moore,Charles and Louis were ko'd by the Rock. His managers sent him in there with them and money was made.But rock was a great person.I think pac is too.We need to stop hating and respect fighters for what they have to endure.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph marciano was bull shit! not even top 20 all time
Limekiln71 8 months ago
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@Midnightrambler3760 The great Marciano was a fighter with integrity and honor who happened to fight at a time when some of the best names in heavyweight boxing were past their primes. Walcott,Moore,Charles and Louis were ko'd by the Rock. His managers sent him in there with them and money was made.But rock was a great person.I think Pac is too.We need to stop hating and respect fighters for what they have to endure.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph Floyd is not leary of Pac..in fact for the March fight Roach demanded 8 oz gloves and a 20' ring and Floyd said "OK"
That scared Roach and that is why the fight did not happen, nothing to do with drug testing. Roach had originally said they agreed to the testing, Arum even said pac had signed the contract.
Then they reconsidered Floyd's intentions and realized he would beat pac up on the inside, they used testing as an excuse to back out.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac couldn't adapt! Mosley felt his power and thought better about attacking too. Thats just it. Floyd will show his counter punching ability and adjust his strategy until he sees what most of Pac's opponents see. That blinding speed of hands. Then they don't want to engage unless they are like Margarita.We know Floyd is faster than Shane of late.He's precse and measured in his attack. But Pacs got speed and fierceness. Anyway you cut this pie its gonna be good.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph Yes and when Mosley stopped attacking pac could not get to him.
Floyd is not only faster than Shane, Floyd is faster than Pacquiao. When they fight it will be apparent quite early and you will say to yourself 'Why didn't I see this?"
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 I watch those fights over and over again. I'm sure you do too. For a while I was trying to figure out who was faster Floyd or Pac. I realized they fight differently and have speed in different areas. Floyd is like a mongoose. Slick, precise and measured. He has the fastest left hook in boxing. Pac has explosive speed if you can call it that, which is what gives him his power. He is at his fastest rushing in with his right jab and left cross.Plus he can switch up on you to.
matizaph 9 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac could not get to Shane because Shane was backing up out of respect, which is something he didn't do against Floyd. If you watch Shane vs Floyd carefully you'll see Shane coming forward to Floyd after the 2nd round up till the final bell. Had he fought Pac that way the fight would've been over in the third round.Pac woulda got him. I know Shane went down since his fight with Floyd. But he did look better against Pac. He didn't look drained like when he fought Floyd.
matizaph 9 months ago
@matizaph thats because floyd took his heart that night! pac was fighting a shell of what floyd fought, and he still couldn't impose his will and take shane out
Limekiln71 8 months ago
@Midnightrambler3760 Pac couldn't adapt! Mosley felt his power and thought better about attacking too. Thats just it. Floyd will show his counter punching ability and adjust his strategy until he sees what most of Pac's opponents see.The power and blinding speed of hands. Then they don't want to engage unless they are like Margarita.We know Floyd is faster than Shane of late.He's precse and measured in his attack. But Pacs got speed and fierceness. Anyway you cut this pie its gonna be good.
matizaph 9 months ago
@benjiernmd I believe Floyd has too much for Pac. Pac fans are actually starting to believe Bob Arum's press releases based on his recent cherrypicks against guys like Cotto, Clottey and Margarito.
The last counterpuncher pac faced was Marquez and Marquez made him look very ordinary.
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago
@benjiernmd Naseem Richardson said this week that he has seen both Floyd and Pac up close against his fighter (Mosley) and based on what he saw he thinks Floyd will have absolutely no problem with Pac.
He said Pac struggled and did not know what to do when Mosley adjusted. How will he do against the best adjuster on the planet?
Midnightrambler3760 9 months ago