Let's ignore the fact that he made the blunder and see what he was thinking when he made that move.
By what I can see (I may be wrong), is that any other move apart from Qh7# being made, wins for black. If the queen exchange is not made, black wins with a back rank mate. If it is however exchanged, black wins the pawn race and wins the game. White can get the queen first, however on the next move a1=Q+, Qe1 ... Qxe1#. The king wins the pawn if white tries to prevent this with a knight check.
Wow, the hair on the back of even MY head stood up on the knight move--i.e., I wouldn't have missed it, and would have seen the imminent danger of the knight poised to move where it did. And I mostly suck at chess.
@Apoic123 honestly when you make a statement like that you should justify. I don't see how kramniks mindset was to aim for material gain nor do I see why it is a big mistake
notice that at 2:00 if the "white queen" killed the "black bishop", then the "black queen" would kill the "white queen". So putting the "black bishop" there, was not a mistake but a strategy to attract the "black queen" in order to kill her. So not moving the king but trying to kill the opponent's "(white) king" was basically the last mistake. Too bad he didn't see that move coming..
I guess when you're so engrossed in high level position play you miss the simplest things. Kramnik had Fritz dominated and if the queens came off it would have been game.
@TamaNewb Or maybe they hate it due to a GM missing a mate lol. Eitherway nobody's perfect and I think it's a morale boost to see a GM make such a mistake showing beginners there's no shame in it.
This was the greatest blunder by a former world champion. But man, he was close to beating the machine that most of us couldn't. This video only shows how far I am compared to Kramnik's brilliance.
For those who can't find the blunder... The very last two moves: 34... Qe3??? (Kramnik's major blunder) and then Deep Fritz responded with 35... Qh7 mate.
@Crimlitig8r Kg8 and it's a draw - Qe4-Qd5+-Qe4-Qd5+ - and black Kg8-Kh8-Kg8-Kh8 ... it's the only thing black can do for not losing, and white can't get more than a draw in this situation ...
@Crimlitig8r But maybe I'm wrong and it is possible for black to win by taking the pawn, but I don't think so, the Queen can alway check the King - but maybe it's better for white to got ot f5 first to save the Knight - but g6 is rubbish, because the Knight will take the pawn with a check ...
Todavía recuerdo estar viendo la partida cuando se retransmitió por Internet y no acabarme de creer lo que acababa de ver. Tuve que frotarme los ojos varias veces. Y en ese momento era el campeón del mundo.
it's always hard with both queens on a relatively open board, it puts huge pressure on both players as this are positions that you can't really study and thus are less confident playing. Fritz was wise enough to go into an "endgame" where tactics that can be calculated predominate rather than human creativity.
yes Qe3 was a verry bad mistake when rook F1 was checkmate but you have to give him credit he played a great opening and middle. mistakes happen we arent robots
I think the real blunder was taking the rook, just before that. ...Re8 instead of swapping rooks makes White's isolated e-pawn is and Black's ultimate passer on the far end will be big problems for black. He gave black equality, then made the more obvious blunder.
@Odhinn222 i think its the same mistake. When he calculated the position he didnt see the mate at all. so he thought that white had to take the queen , because if white queen takes the b4 pawn Black Bishop d2 will win the knight. and after the queens are of the board its an easy win for black
@involuntaryspasms--checkmate, the game is over. the black king is in check, he has to get out of check before he can make any other move....but, he cannot get out of check....game over
@aryavolkansen He was not in zeitnot. He was thinking carefully for over a minute before making the mistake - one of the very rare moves in chess history that deserve a '???'
No. There is no such thing as "counter-mating". This game is lost in 1/2 turn (either white or black's), and there is NO chance to redeem a checkmate by "counter-mating". White would have already checkmated black, ending the game before black can retaliate.
There is no such rule, you have to look at it like this when a king is checkmated he has no were to go and will be captured the next turn. Who ever loses the king first loses the game. If you counter checkmate you will still lose the game as the opponent will capture the king first.
@oryxfreeride or g7g5, I guess black is a lot better then. Black's last move Qe3 seems to win in all other situations [except where white can give mate or check]. cause queen-trade otherwise is forced for white and Blacks bishop can easily dominate the white knight, not to speak about the a and b pawns that will be easily promoted if the queens come off.
Yeah, no man. This is what I call a "mistake by gobbling." Players seem to get too caught up in gobbling pieces, they miss out on noticing checkmates they could have avoided. I'm always preaching: Step 1: Look for potential checkmates on your king. Step 2: Study your opponents last move, and figure out why the moved it. ..etc I see this all the time. If you notice, you'll see a lot of people fall victim to gobbling. If you notice your opponent is a gobbler, you can set them up with sacrifices.
He was already losing anyway. Every move that would defend against mate results in losing the game as well. Kg8 would end up in 1)Qc4+,Kxf8 2)Qxc1 and white is better. Black playing g5 will be tactics for white: 1)Ng6+,Kh7, 2)Ne7+,Kh8, 3)Nc6, Qf7, 4)Qe2, Bxb2 and white will make a queen first with check.
@noxure can you explain to me in your first variation how would white win after 1)Qc4+,Kxf8 2)Qxc1 Qe7??!?!?!?! I mean in the worst case its a drawing... you simply play a3 and maybe black will never win with perfect play but althought I am not a GM I don't see how white will advance without losing the game...
@BenMarru You're right, my mistake. 3)Qf8+ If black tries to trade queens then you go to Qc5+ to get eventually on d4, or you keep on checking on f5 / c8 (draw). Black can also get his queen on f8 at some point where you play Qc4 THEN black can play a3, you take and when black takes back you move your king to g1 to free the queen. Phew... followed by another tediously long queen battle; probably a draw as well.
i think the problem here was that a human would probably not have played a move like Nf8 especially having the back rank very weak (looks at least a very unnatural move although perfectly playable). So I think Kramnik overlooked completely the position of the knight and worried about the pawn advance he saw an immediate draw withQe3 , unfortunately there was a mate threat he didnt see
@PeterM1997 The mistake was not seeing that his opponent was threatening mate-in-1. Kramnik moved Qe3 and should have used that move to defend against mate. A lot of people make a big deal out of mistakes made on the highest level, but EVERY GM has made similar mistakes. I guess it is just easier to see World Champ mistakes. That said, Kramnik is a MONSTER who is one of the best chess players in the history of chess!
to hbe fair he was playing REALLY WELL up until then i think he had the upper hand IMO !!! unlucky funny how i wouldnt make thiss error but the chances of me drawing with kramnick are about as close to nil as possible liol !!!
@mehdigoudarzi well, there is NO introduction or whatsoever
there are NO further annotations, there are NO further comments, it's just putting up a video on YT where you get a hypercam or something and run the game and upload..
@nejnej00 Basic translation is that Black missed where white could have him in checkmate in one move. Black forked white's king and rook, without realizing that for white to capture black's rook would practically be checkmate.
if he would have played g5 the game would have been very interesting....
his bishop was a stronger piece than fritz's knight and his pawns on the a and b columns were extreamlly dangereous to the white, aspecially if they would have swapped queens at some stage of the game....
@Achilles94627 that's a really dumb thing to say especially if you consider that Kramnik is playing. Sure he blundered a mate but that doesn't imply anything about QGA being a bad opening if you try to hold onto the pawn...he was able to develop his pieces just fine...in fact he didn't hold on to it and got rid of his backward c pawn. What's you're rating like 1500?
@Achilles94627 Don't worry about it. I don't like when people start talking in an argumentative tone either, especially for no reason. They just want to sound intelligent; sort of like a ruse used to cover up their insecurity. It's really condescending and immature. Yeah, what's your rating, rookman82?
c4 is a pawn move, if it doesn't have a capital letter before the move it is a pawn move, as pawns can only move one square forward or diagonally to capture. so c4 obviously means you moved your c pawn forward to c4
N stands for Knight and f6 is the square it moved . (Knight to f6)
Qxf6 The x signifies a capture and is said Queen takes f6, you don't need to specify which piece is on the taken square as there can only be one piece
@footballskillz77 Say... Qh4+ This means "Queen to h4, check" meaning once it has moved to h4 it is checking the king.
One confusing notation is O-O this stands for King's side castling, O-O-O is Queen's side castling.
Also say...Ba2# This stands for Bishop to a2, checkmate.
If you want to signify a pawn capture it would be bc4, you miss out the takes as if pawns change files it is obviously a diagonal capture. This stands for "Pawn b, takes pawn c4"
White could have won simply with 58.Qg8+ Ke7 (Bf7 59.Qd8 and mate next move) 59.Qxg6 and now both Rxd4 and Rxg4 fail to 60.Qg7+ Ke8 61.Kd6 and mate next move. But he saw something even quicker: 58.Kd8 and indeed, Black resigned, not seeing anything against Qe7 mate—or that Rxg4 would give him a winning position. The logic is that with his last move, White didn't only threaten Qe7 mate, but also interfered with his Queen's access to c8, which he needed against Rxg4. Black also hadn't noticed this
Eventually the checkmate's power will weaken and people will begin fighting again. This time they will use the weapon themselves and once more know true pain. And then for a short time peace will come again, ... it will give birth to short periods of peace within this endless chain of hatred .... THAT IS MY WISH
When I saw the position b4 the last position I was thinking, "Oh, a draw, good work Kramnik".. And I went to have some food, and when I came down I dropped my dish and yelled: "WTF?!" xD
I am not sure, but wasn't there live comment by a GM (think it was Seiwaran) that also was thinking about what Kramniks plan would be after the next move of the computer.
If the knight was on f6 instead of f8 kramnick probally spottet the mate.
at 2:08 the king should of attacked the knight on f1. he has to save the knight then black is up another pawn. with a queen protecting a pawn advancing on the a row.
meh, this was a lost position anyways... the knight is immune, because of Qxb4, and from there he only needs to carry his pass pwn home. black doesnt have time to deliver mate on the 8th rank to prevent that and the black king is under cunstant pressure
@chrism216 ok lets say king g8 then qxb4, all it takes is qe3 and white queen is pinned, has to defend against checkmate on e1, has to protect knight f8 and pawn on b2, and qe3 could easily take advantage and take e5 pawn. He could have won this, just looked like he rushed things at the end.
I am not good chess player but to me it looks that Kramnik was better 2:09 but he was under pressure,same thing to kasparov so he was thinking about so hard and dont look simple moves and if Kramnik was better before that I am happy cause best chess player is human(and that somebody beat rybka 3 and all other chess engine)
that was an embarrassing moment. Kramnik made his move and got up to use the bathroom. The operator delivered checkmate, and he grabbed his head in shock.
If u look in the description and see the computer listed first, that means he is white. Kramnik is listed after the computer ( Deep fritz vs. Kramnik) so he is black. As you can see, white wins.
Deep Junior (and generally any UCI engine) will say the score is 0.00 when the position is already a mate for one player (i.e., there are no more legal moves left and the king is in check).
Let's ignore the fact that he made the blunder and see what he was thinking when he made that move.
By what I can see (I may be wrong), is that any other move apart from Qh7# being made, wins for black. If the queen exchange is not made, black wins with a back rank mate. If it is however exchanged, black wins the pawn race and wins the game. White can get the queen first, however on the next move a1=Q+, Qe1 ... Qxe1#. The king wins the pawn if white tries to prevent this with a knight check.
XUltimateSinX 2 weeks ago
mama kiti
breakdancerQ 2 weeks ago
The king of all blunders!
Limboman1988 2 weeks ago
Wow, the hair on the back of even MY head stood up on the knight move--i.e., I wouldn't have missed it, and would have seen the imminent danger of the knight poised to move where it did. And I mostly suck at chess.
GetMeThere1 1 month ago
Kg8 best move
thezidana 2 months ago
@Jmaculata I'm a bit confused. How do you not see that it is a big mistake... he lost to a simple mate in 1.
Ravde100 2 months ago
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tillytally2101 2 months ago
black is ahead of that game most of the time but wow i'm even surprised too!!!
maj27 2 months ago
lol! This is one of the funniest videos I've seen in youtube! :)
coosoorlog 2 months ago
Does the chess engine name, "fritz", was taken from this player?
mukmin01 3 months ago
@mukmin01 That is the engine playing as white.
Jdreeve11 2 months ago
Looks like one of the checkmates I landed back in high school Scholastic championships.
GoldSamuraiArmor 3 months ago
Kramny playing for material. big mistake.
Apoic123 3 months ago
@Apoic123 honestly when you make a statement like that you should justify. I don't see how kramniks mindset was to aim for material gain nor do I see why it is a big mistake
Jmaculata 2 months ago
taking the bisship whit his kn was the failure, it opened the line for rock
BigBossHuntelaar 3 months ago
lol
kenoat 3 months ago
i honestly didnt see that coming..
1enlightenment1 3 months ago
It's like everything in this world, sh1t happens !! :-)
CHuygens 3 months ago
horrible game.. Yall both deserve to lose,
jdamage68 3 months ago
See World Champion Chess Strategies at "Chess Thinking Systems"
jpsingh1972 3 months ago
2:08 is the BIG mistake. Instead of moving the (black) queen to E3, he should of instead moved his King (black) to G8 to avoid checkmate.
johnmilo117 4 months ago 2
Sorry I don't know chess very much, what's the OBVIOUS mistake here?
Booboorella 4 months ago
@Booboorella should have done something to prevent the mate
sniperdude5236 4 months ago
@sniperdude5236 Oh my god lol I see it now... What a blunder!
Booboorella 4 months ago
nice error!
Thepain360 4 months ago
Any chess players smoke weed?
maxpower789z 4 months ago
@maxpower789z Ha. I wondered the same thing. I do it all the time, it doesn't seem to improve or hurt my game as far as I can tell.
halonone 2 months ago
Any chess players smoke weed?
maxpower789z 4 months ago
for those who couldn't spot it, the bluder is at 2:07, kramnik played Qe3 without noticing white had a mate in 1.
apfrezende 4 months ago 2
@apfrezende Thanks for explaining, pal.
eloquenteducator 3 months ago
So fake
gredow1979 5 months ago
notice that at 2:00 if the "white queen" killed the "black bishop", then the "black queen" would kill the "white queen". So putting the "black bishop" there, was not a mistake but a strategy to attract the "black queen" in order to kill her. So not moving the king but trying to kill the opponent's "(white) king" was basically the last mistake. Too bad he didn't see that move coming..
Marinemauro 6 months ago
I guess when you're so engrossed in high level position play you miss the simplest things. Kramnik had Fritz dominated and if the queens came off it would have been game.
nioor 6 months ago
46 people have no idea how unlikely it is for a GM to miss a mate in 1.
TamaNewb 6 months ago 39
@TamaNewb Or maybe they hate it due to a GM missing a mate lol. Eitherway nobody's perfect and I think it's a morale boost to see a GM make such a mistake showing beginners there's no shame in it.
kikook222 2 months ago
A beautiful came with a sweet mistake!
mathxp 6 months ago
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Wtf happend? I dont see the blunder.
nejnej00 6 months ago
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nejnej00 6 months ago
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was the mistake right at the end when the black queen went down 1 block under the white queen, instead of moving the king one block to the left?
itzahazylife 6 months ago
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itzahazylife 6 months ago
This was the greatest blunder by a former world champion. But man, he was close to beating the machine that most of us couldn't. This video only shows how far I am compared to Kramnik's brilliance.
Deecee022 6 months ago
He was insanely close to winning imo. Either way theres no way that Deep Fritz could have saved it's Queen AND Rook if Kramnik went to G8 instead.
SeedsofJoy 6 months ago
For those who can't find the blunder... The very last two moves: 34... Qe3??? (Kramnik's major blunder) and then Deep Fritz responded with 35... Qh7 mate.
Cheisu7 7 months ago 18
Sorry im not really good in that, but where was the mistake? It was to fast for me^^
Melachion 7 months ago
@Melachion He missed Qh7 checkmate.
qertasdfgzxcvb 7 months ago
it's called being human
pkleee 7 months ago
игра дибильная особенно последний ход черных
msnAmante 7 months ago
i love it how "R&B club classics" is the advert for this chess video xD
IXM360 7 months ago
Black can checkmate by the next move. Equal moves made by both players. Think about that...
yapanuwan 7 months ago
which move is exactly the wrong one?
WantedReward93 7 months ago
@WantedReward93 The error comes by Black, right after White takes the Rook on f8. That's at 2:08. The error move is Qe3 because it allows the mate.
trod999 7 months ago
@trod999 What would be the best move after B x R? Pg6?
Crimlitig8r 7 months ago
@Crimlitig8r Kg8 and it's a draw - Qe4-Qd5+-Qe4-Qd5+ - and black Kg8-Kh8-Kg8-Kh8 ... it's the only thing black can do for not losing, and white can't get more than a draw in this situation ...
scardanelli1685 7 months ago
@Crimlitig8r But maybe I'm wrong and it is possible for black to win by taking the pawn, but I don't think so, the Queen can alway check the King - but maybe it's better for white to got ot f5 first to save the Knight - but g6 is rubbish, because the Knight will take the pawn with a check ...
scardanelli1685 7 months ago
hahaha.. mega fail
wakko380 7 months ago
probably kramnik got paid by chessbase, they are like the mafia.
IBOUGHTYAMOM 7 months ago 2
Todavía recuerdo estar viendo la partida cuando se retransmitió por Internet y no acabarme de creer lo que acababa de ver. Tuve que frotarme los ojos varias veces. Y en ese momento era el campeón del mundo.
fernandodms 7 months ago
because off the retake he simply forgot that the Nxf8 also had another purpose. :-( It happens...
ArtsewS 8 months ago
oups... 02:07 some time doing and the best player mistakes... not only the amateur
kafros4ever2 8 months ago
But before that he played very well to get such an advantage against a computer programm.
Kupferhans 8 months ago
it's always hard with both queens on a relatively open board, it puts huge pressure on both players as this are positions that you can't really study and thus are less confident playing. Fritz was wise enough to go into an "endgame" where tactics that can be calculated predominate rather than human creativity.
imosescu 8 months ago
This is a typical mistake i would do.
VictumRoManius 8 months ago
at least frtiz did not laugh ^^
Zarathu5tra 9 months ago 5
yes Qe3 was a verry bad mistake when rook F1 was checkmate but you have to give him credit he played a great opening and middle. mistakes happen we arent robots
adamstormhunter 9 months ago
oh wow! even i saw that one coming... and am the stupidest chess player you can ever find!
mullahsoutnow 9 months ago
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okaytom 9 months ago
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bungieftw1990 9 months ago
Black actually had the edge, right untill he got his ass mated..
RsGhost1 9 months ago
that was the worst move by a GM, the real blunder is, he should have seen the mate.....
MrBigEnchilada 9 months ago
@MrBigEnchilada no shit
KungFuMisty 9 months ago
white was in big trouble too.
whatfay357 9 months ago
I think the real blunder was taking the rook, just before that. ...Re8 instead of swapping rooks makes White's isolated e-pawn is and Black's ultimate passer on the far end will be big problems for black. He gave black equality, then made the more obvious blunder.
Odhinn222 10 months ago
@Odhinn222 i think its the same mistake. When he calculated the position he didnt see the mate at all. so he thought that white had to take the queen , because if white queen takes the b4 pawn Black Bishop d2 will win the knight. and after the queens are of the board its an easy win for black
tassay 9 months ago
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BabiiaaAmaliaaa273 10 months ago
@nitish448 Black get white get a checkmae on the last few moves or last move
chessleach 10 months ago
@nitish448 The last move of white, Queen to e4, because the mate one move later was preservatable.
Simenter13 10 months ago
@involuntaryspasms--checkmate, the game is over. the black king is in check, he has to get out of check before he can make any other move....but, he cannot get out of check....game over
andymotor1 10 months ago
Black should have counter-mated = Draw
zenarrrow 10 months ago
This was just a game versus Deep Fritz? I get smashed by Deep Fritz all the time... :(
Darpinion 10 months ago
he might be in a zeitnot.
this is an end-game and probably he didnt have much time to think. so he rushed himself into a quick decision.
even world champions make stupid mistakes in zeitnot.
aryavolkansen 11 months ago
@aryavolkansen He was not in zeitnot. He was thinking carefully for over a minute before making the mistake - one of the very rare moves in chess history that deserve a '???'
Spiralendrache 10 months ago 28
lol Vladimir Kramnik noob
oddurad 11 months ago
Why can't black counter-mate on e1?
DragonBice 11 months ago
@DragonBice
Are you joking? Qh7; White checkmates Black. White wins. Black Loses. At this point, the game is over and Black cannot "counter-mate".
involuntaryspasms 11 months ago
@involuntaryspasms How come? If Black counter-mates, the game is a draw?
DragonBice 11 months ago
@DragonBice
No. There is no such thing as "counter-mating". This game is lost in 1/2 turn (either white or black's), and there is NO chance to redeem a checkmate by "counter-mating". White would have already checkmated black, ending the game before black can retaliate.
involuntaryspasms 11 months ago
@DragonBice
There is no such rule, you have to look at it like this when a king is checkmated he has no were to go and will be captured the next turn. Who ever loses the king first loses the game. If you counter checkmate you will still lose the game as the opponent will capture the king first.
Atleast thats how i look at it.
BlindfoldedPoet 10 months ago
dont see the mistake...
SuperAyo12345 11 months ago
A 4th grader could see qh7 mate
scatterblast123 11 months ago
hey i might sound like an idiot. But how would this have played out if he noticed this really bad mistake and moved his pawn to from g7 to g6?
oryxfreeride 1 year ago
@oryxfreeride or g7g5, I guess black is a lot better then. Black's last move Qe3 seems to win in all other situations [except where white can give mate or check]. cause queen-trade otherwise is forced for white and Blacks bishop can easily dominate the white knight, not to speak about the a and b pawns that will be easily promoted if the queens come off.
44percentburnt 1 year ago
a Costly blunder indeed!
IKnowWereYouSleep 1 year ago
Yeah, no man. This is what I call a "mistake by gobbling." Players seem to get too caught up in gobbling pieces, they miss out on noticing checkmates they could have avoided. I'm always preaching: Step 1: Look for potential checkmates on your king. Step 2: Study your opponents last move, and figure out why the moved it. ..etc I see this all the time. If you notice, you'll see a lot of people fall victim to gobbling. If you notice your opponent is a gobbler, you can set them up with sacrifices.
moonblink 1 year ago
@moonblink Hey gobble gobble gobble my poop
scatterblast123 11 months ago
He was already losing anyway. Every move that would defend against mate results in losing the game as well. Kg8 would end up in 1)Qc4+,Kxf8 2)Qxc1 and white is better. Black playing g5 will be tactics for white: 1)Ng6+,Kh7, 2)Ne7+,Kh8, 3)Nc6, Qf7, 4)Qe2, Bxb2 and white will make a queen first with check.
noxure 1 year ago
@noxure can you explain to me in your first variation how would white win after 1)Qc4+,Kxf8 2)Qxc1 Qe7??!?!?!?! I mean in the worst case its a drawing... you simply play a3 and maybe black will never win with perfect play but althought I am not a GM I don't see how white will advance without losing the game...
BenMarru 1 year ago
@BenMarru You're right, my mistake. 3)Qf8+ If black tries to trade queens then you go to Qc5+ to get eventually on d4, or you keep on checking on f5 / c8 (draw). Black can also get his queen on f8 at some point where you play Qc4 THEN black can play a3, you take and when black takes back you move your king to g1 to free the queen. Phew... followed by another tediously long queen battle; probably a draw as well.
noxure 1 year ago
i think the problem here was that a human would probably not have played a move like Nf8 especially having the back rank very weak (looks at least a very unnatural move although perfectly playable). So I think Kramnik overlooked completely the position of the knight and worried about the pawn advance he saw an immediate draw withQe3 , unfortunately there was a mate threat he didnt see
fresniak 1 year ago
can someone explain what the mistake was :/
PeterM1997 1 year ago
@PeterM1997 ..Qe3
m3hdim3hdi 1 year ago
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Ruso78region 1 year ago
@PeterM1997 The mistake was not seeing that his opponent was threatening mate-in-1. Kramnik moved Qe3 and should have used that move to defend against mate. A lot of people make a big deal out of mistakes made on the highest level, but EVERY GM has made similar mistakes. I guess it is just easier to see World Champ mistakes. That said, Kramnik is a MONSTER who is one of the best chess players in the history of chess!
TheFiggRig 1 year ago
to be fair, he was also really close to beating the computer too, just one move away so...i'll let it pass this once
rebelsouljaz 1 year ago
to hbe fair he was playing REALLY WELL up until then i think he had the upper hand IMO !!! unlucky funny how i wouldnt make thiss error but the chances of me drawing with kramnick are about as close to nil as possible liol !!!
mcpartridgeboy 1 year ago
Time to play e=mc*!
tilon2000 1 year ago
I think he should Kg8 instead of exchanging the queen :D
Greychumon 1 year ago
i don't really understand the 17 dislikes ... were you expecting a bigger mistake or ..?
mehdigoudarzi 1 year ago 84
@mehdigoudarzi
who cares the opinions of morons?
FakeAssKilla 10 months ago
@mehdigoudarzi A bit of commentary would be nice.
Aerialdan1 7 months ago 5
@mehdigoudarzi well, there is NO introduction or whatsoever
there are NO further annotations, there are NO further comments, it's just putting up a video on YT where you get a hypercam or something and run the game and upload..
not really neat
Rboysblaster 5 months ago
can someone tell me what happend? ^^ im new to chess, so i didnt understand one word of the other comments.
nejnej00 1 year ago
@nejnej00 Basic translation is that Black missed where white could have him in checkmate in one move. Black forked white's king and rook, without realizing that for white to capture black's rook would practically be checkmate.
That's my take on it, at least.
IncendiaFox 1 year ago
@IncendiaFox ah ok thanks.
nejnej00 1 year ago
Steinitz once castled directly into a mate in 1. That was a simul game though.
alexmagnus1 1 year ago
it was his only winning match against df, but!!!!
masafa1990 1 year ago
Clearly black was winning until the mistake.
Matthew2400 1 year ago
FAved!!!!
walking1way 1 year ago
if he would have played g5 the game would have been very interesting....
his bishop was a stronger piece than fritz's knight and his pawns on the a and b columns were extreamlly dangereous to the white, aspecially if they would have swapped queens at some stage of the game....
jingeshan24 1 year ago
Trying to hang onto the pawn at the beginning with b5 is known to be a very bad idea. Surely Kramnik was aware of this.
Achilles94627 1 year ago
@Achilles94627 that's a really dumb thing to say especially if you consider that Kramnik is playing. Sure he blundered a mate but that doesn't imply anything about QGA being a bad opening if you try to hold onto the pawn...he was able to develop his pieces just fine...in fact he didn't hold on to it and got rid of his backward c pawn. What's you're rating like 1500?
rookman64 1 year ago
@rookman64 Whoa. Easy tiger. I just heard that trying to hold onto the pawn was a bad idea. Sorry if you found that offensive.
Achilles94627 1 year ago
@Achilles94627 Don't worry about it. I don't like when people start talking in an argumentative tone either, especially for no reason. They just want to sound intelligent; sort of like a ruse used to cover up their insecurity. It's really condescending and immature. Yeah, what's your rating, rookman82?
EgoSumIndigentia 1 year ago
How embarrassing.
QuantumStates 1 year ago
Computers don't make oversights like Kramnik did. This is the problem of human against computer.
Robotman42 1 year ago
the black is noob is so simple
Dotanoobplatakis 1 year ago
@footballskillz77 Qh7 mean that Queen moves to square h7. Align the letters and numbers together to find h7.
OnlyJustUnknown 1 year ago
That's hilarious
FFassassin71 1 year ago
can someone explain me what this Qh7 , c4 Nf6 , .... means?
footballskillz77 1 year ago
@footballskillz77 Go to wikipedia and type "Algebraic chess notation". Cheers.
gilbertoagostinho 1 year ago
@footballskillz77 Qh7 stands for Queen to h7 (The square number)
c4 is a pawn move, if it doesn't have a capital letter before the move it is a pawn move, as pawns can only move one square forward or diagonally to capture. so c4 obviously means you moved your c pawn forward to c4
N stands for Knight and f6 is the square it moved . (Knight to f6)
Qxf6 The x signifies a capture and is said Queen takes f6, you don't need to specify which piece is on the taken square as there can only be one piece
Halo3ForumEurope 1 year ago
@footballskillz77 Say... Qh4+ This means "Queen to h4, check" meaning once it has moved to h4 it is checking the king.
One confusing notation is O-O this stands for King's side castling, O-O-O is Queen's side castling.
Also say...Ba2# This stands for Bishop to a2, checkmate.
If you want to signify a pawn capture it would be bc4, you miss out the takes as if pawns change files it is obviously a diagonal capture. This stands for "Pawn b, takes pawn c4"
Halo3ForumEurope 1 year ago
White could have won simply with 58.Qg8+ Ke7 (Bf7 59.Qd8 and mate next move) 59.Qxg6 and now both Rxd4 and Rxg4 fail to 60.Qg7+ Ke8 61.Kd6 and mate next move. But he saw something even quicker: 58.Kd8 and indeed, Black resigned, not seeing anything against Qe7 mate—or that Rxg4 would give him a winning position. The logic is that with his last move, White didn't only threaten Qe7 mate, but also interfered with his Queen's access to c8, which he needed against Rxg4. Black also hadn't noticed this
chicoriante 1 year ago
hahaha i remember this
i thought it was kasparov who blundered, not kramnik
crackerjack113 1 year ago
what incredible bad explanaition. n ot even telling who is who (s/b)......
Alexon88 1 year ago
@Alexon88 Look at the info. It says Deep Fritz vs. Kramnik, so apparently, Deep Fritz is white and Kramnik black.
bzkaa 1 year ago
He probably wanted to trade material down since he had 2 pawns ready for promotion.....
ichigo2008bleach 1 year ago
Eventually the checkmate's power will weaken and people will begin fighting again. This time they will use the weapon themselves and once more know true pain. And then for a short time peace will come again, ... it will give birth to short periods of peace within this endless chain of hatred .... THAT IS MY WISH
chicoriante 1 year ago
@chicoriante .... naruto?
Mavric92 1 year ago
nani nani? dattebayo
chicoriante 1 year ago
what the hell?
axb5 cxb5 Qf3
wins a bishop or knight
namikaze57 1 year ago
@namikaze57 That works with the white pawn on e3, not on e4.
NightHawk8785 1 year ago
When I saw the position b4 the last position I was thinking, "Oh, a draw, good work Kramnik".. And I went to have some food, and when I came down I dropped my dish and yelled: "WTF?!" xD
xGuitarStianx 1 year ago
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Giannim2504 1 year ago
I am not sure, but wasn't there live comment by a GM (think it was Seiwaran) that also was thinking about what Kramniks plan would be after the next move of the computer.
If the knight was on f6 instead of f8 kramnick probally spottet the mate.
serrie85 1 year ago
at what time in the video was this inevitable? (when the blunder happened)
TisforTaco 1 year ago
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Utforskaren 1 year ago
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Utforskaren 1 year ago
@TisforTaco At 2:00 he should have played Re8 (or at 2:04 after Be3 Nf8, black would have to play Kg8 to avoid mate)
EmeraldElement 1 year ago
Poor Vlad....haha it happens to all of us i guess ,-) humans blunder...that's how it goes :)
if a world clas GM can miss a mate in 1, ok then we can all feel somewhat more at ease with our own silly mistakes! ,-)
Phyle9 1 year ago
wait, why was he holding onto the pawn in the first place?
LegionXG 1 year ago
I would have loved to see the expression on that guy's face when the assistant played the checkmate.
andthatsforthewin 1 year ago
at 2:08 the king should of attacked the knight on f1. he has to save the knight then black is up another pawn. with a queen protecting a pawn advancing on the a row.
UndertheDomeInRome 1 year ago
meh, this was a lost position anyways... the knight is immune, because of Qxb4, and from there he only needs to carry his pass pwn home. black doesnt have time to deliver mate on the 8th rank to prevent that and the black king is under cunstant pressure
chrism216 2 years ago
sorry i meant 1st rank =)
chrism216 2 years ago
@chrism216 ok lets say king g8 then qxb4, all it takes is qe3 and white queen is pinned, has to defend against checkmate on e1, has to protect knight f8 and pawn on b2, and qe3 could easily take advantage and take e5 pawn. He could have won this, just looked like he rushed things at the end.
kingtipz 1 year ago
1. ... Kg8
2. Qxb4 Qf7
3. Qe1 Bxb2
and then?
Stier19812002 1 year ago
I am not good chess player but to me it looks that Kramnik was better 2:09 but he was under pressure,same thing to kasparov so he was thinking about so hard and dont look simple moves and if Kramnik was better before that I am happy cause best chess player is human(and that somebody beat rybka 3 and all other chess engine)
edinkirk 2 years ago
g5 was the best move I think
ythehunter 2 years ago
The main reason why Kramnik fail to see this is because he had missed an important step in his analysis.
Before playing a move, a master has to look through the eyes of a patzers and look out of any Obvious threat !!
A simple tactical threat would often skip the eyes of a player (no matter how strong he is) after the first few minutes of evaluation of the position.
BenBlunt1 2 years ago
that was an embarrassing moment. Kramnik made his move and got up to use the bathroom. The operator delivered checkmate, and he grabbed his head in shock.
mwGmeiner 2 years ago
This is the consequences of too much thinking
ayotollah 2 years ago
sry, Kg8 xD
Chasquido250 2 years ago
i think that Kg7 was a better move than Qe3 xD
Chasquido250 2 years ago
it always makes me feel better when i lblunder and lose a game, i rememver that kramnik, anand, and kasparov all blunder , and i feel good
Fupper16 2 years ago 3
so who won this match?
kelloggcerealxoxo 2 years ago
deep frtiz kramnik is playing black
MyMusicalMelody 2 years ago
If u look in the description and see the computer listed first, that means he is white. Kramnik is listed after the computer ( Deep fritz vs. Kramnik) so he is black. As you can see, white wins.
MyMusicalMelody 2 years ago
what time he had?
hallotata 2 years ago
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Qh7 is ridiculous.
Black Qe1#
Cercatore 2 years ago
Qh7 is mate!!!
cremnik 2 years ago 13
@cremnik no shit.....and you got 13 likes for this comment too? wow....
DelCristo41 10 months ago
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Thymonico 2 years ago
It is good to know that Kramnik played brilliant against a computer here (but blundered).
wildernisable 2 years ago
If Kramnik didn't do that last blunder, it could have been an easy draw...
Garen1234 2 years ago
Qg1 isn't mate. You're dropping a queen.. It's too bad since this position was a draw.
coairrob777 2 years ago
Queen to G1???
-____-'
tesctassa 2 years ago 2
i used deep junior to analyze this position, says it is a draw 0.00 points for both sides
pmpjuce6 2 years ago
Your an idiot, hes in checkmate...
studybuddydave 2 years ago 3
if only you knew the difference between your and you are. sigh. perhaps you should stop the mud slinging...
moonlitekid 2 years ago
Deep Junior (and generally any UCI engine) will say the score is 0.00 when the position is already a mate for one player (i.e., there are no more legal moves left and the king is in check).
mavaddat 2 years ago