Blackwater Gasses Our Own Troops

[SuperROLLTECH]

My jaw just keeps dropping more and more about how horrible Blackwater operated

[zzJerryShufflezz]

Nobody needed medical attention after, because nobody was REALLY exposed to the gas...

Stop knocking this out of proportion. Next time mention all the facts about a story, not only the ones that are beneficial to your message.

[devilslayer888]

This is lunacy. Pure and simple.

[samoanpunch]

..it doesn't feel like your dying... it feels like complete shit but not not that far out.

[alhosani4]

First of all, UAE rulers are not dictators!

UAE is a tribal community; the leaders listen to the people, through tribe leaders and accommodate their demands and needs, so it is an Islamic Democracy.

Keep your democracy for you, Bush Family ruled US for almost two decades through forged elections, and dragged your country into unjustified wars to fill their wallets. Which lead to the global economic crisis! Highest number of homeless people in US today, thanks to DEMOCRACY!!

[ArmyArmorOfWar]

you guys do know a lot of these contractors arnt some gun crazy rednecks, there are different units, with different background requirements, some are require to be in military spec ops. as far these idiots, giving a bad name to the company, there the ones with no military background, while the ones with experience are protecting, officials and performing operations that actually matter

[macgeek2004]

And THESE are the asshole setting up a special forces unit for the king of the UAE?! One with a STATED POLICY of "no Muslims allowed?!?!" Fucking DISASTER!!! Why doesn't the president act??? Use SEAL Team Six to bring HIS ass in!

[ArmyArmorOfWar]

certain units in Xe require you to be in military special operations before you can join them, there not all gun crazy rednecks.

[hamrite]

they should have shot the helicopter down.

[darkblood626]

Blackwater hires internet trolls.

[lovecraftis]

Blackwaer is merc scum and nothing else. When the GW admin opened the door to massive merc deployment in Iraq htey created a total nightmare. The US needs to stop supporting mercs now.

[badattitude77769]

knights of malta would never, ever be mafia, very embarrassing, a threat to humanituy: Most of all the mafai guys that I know have a code of honor: you never harm the women of the children. Look at these fucks, an embarrassment to the code of honor: Initial Membership List of the Knights of Malta* Compiled by Eric Samuelson, J.D. Edward Fenech Adami General Allavena George W. Anderson James Jesus Angelton Samuel Alito Julian Allason Bunch of drug dealing fucks, please help

[ericstrange1]

I work for the U.S. Gov. already....

[ericstrange1]

@maxxrexx If he doesnt have any experience on the battle field then it will be tough for him to get on with them, most of them call for 4 to 6 years of duty. All depends on what he wants to do, they offer anything from security jobs to technician jobs...

[ericstrange1]

@maxxrexx No i believe you confronted me first! I am upset at these people saying blackwater are terrorist and cowboys when they have no clue what they are talking about, Yes Blackwater does have a bad name because of a few assholes, but this type of shit happens in the Marines and Army all the time except the media doesn't blow it up as bad.... And tell your brother to look into Triple Canopy, or Global Strategies Group, they have a much better name, very professional...

[ericstrange1]

@maxxrexx By the way fuck off, Are you in the Military? I am sure you will say you are..

You will hardly ever hear one of our troops say anything bad about contractors, You know why? its because they are there fighting together not sitting behind a computer judging books by there cover......

[ericstrange1]

I would rather be gased then listen to this libtard, not everything these guys do is bad..... They are all former Military, as a matter of fact almost all of them are special forces... All this prick is doing is taking the "already twisted story of the media" and twisting it up more... I am not saying that these guys havent ever done anything wrong but just because a couple of fuck ups fucked up they are blaming all of blackwater and all other contractors... So "dont play who's side are you on"

[ericstrange1]

This fucking studdering prick should open his liberal mouth, fuck you all fucking liberals

[luckycharms8282]

The members of Blackwater dont answer to anyone, so they do whatever they want

[orig1990vintoy]

This an indication of the gradual degeneration of power that state mandated troops are experienceing. By power I dont mean technological or fire power but the power to exercise the will of the state. Tread carefully americans, you might wake up one the not having a state mandated armed forces becuase they were replaced by this Private Military Contrators. Defend your Stae , Defend the Idea of the Nation-State.

[orig1990vintoy]

...and I think that is something that your legislative body takes for granted. In his book the congressmen were just arguing about costs and illegal killings. This is also important but it somehow downplays the real grim issue of the matter at hand, which is the SLOW but GRADUAL dissentegration of the Nation-State. If might have noticed in this video, ur armed forces felt weak and helpless after being gassed by these idiots...

[orig1990vintoy]

...In turn this would mean that Privatizing the function of security, POLICE POWER, will lead to the dissentegration of the Nation-State. This I think is the most dangerous thing that would happen if the Privatization of crucial state functions ,such as Security, is not addressed quickly because this does not only affect you Americans. This problem would spill-over to the entire world. I am actually reading Jeremy Scahill's book on this...

[orig1990vintoy]

Play boy this is not a manifestation of totalitarianism. It is something much worse than Foucoults criticisms on the state. XE/ Black water represents a glimpse to the idea of a globalized future that is imbedded on the idea of corporatism. This means that somehow the Nation-State is losing one of its most power inherent power; POLICE POWER. if this is taken away the two other inherent powers of the state, Power to Tax and Power of Immennet Domain would become useless...

[playboy8560]

Nazi SS=XE?

[playboy8560]

CS gas is fuckin painless, we used to get csed annually that shit was a cake walk, i hate that they hype it up, this isnt something you need to exaggerate

[megamule064]

stupid fucking liberals......

[HRINGNUN]

So what if they're gassing the troops..??

US is all about using force to get resources from other countries. Maybe they will replace the troops one day.

[playboy8560]

dont talk anymore

[MrDuffy81]

Blackwater are terrorists.

[ricoberto1]

Look assholes... CS gas is not a banned chemical weapon. The police use it at riots, the military uses it to train our own troops... You idiots dont even know what your talking about... Get your heads out of your ass!

[MrDuffy81]

Oh yeah. It would have been just fine for them to shoot rubber bullets at them to, right?

You do not understand the human condition.

[invertedrationale]

Yes it is. Using CS gas on rioters or for training the military (both on your home turf) does not equal a war setting.

CS gas is banned (according to the Chemical Weapons Convention--signed by the US) for the reasons already mentioned by Cenk. Essentially, your target won't know exactly what you're using on them. All they know is that it's some sort of dangerous chemical agent, so they may escalate with a deadlier chemical weapon of their own.

Take your criticism and use it yourself.

[chamiley]

try using it on someone and when the cop arrests you, then give him the same argument. he will slap you and tell you it is a banned substance

[Rahab111222]

US ARMY should've blasted those Blackwater thugs out of the fucking sky.

[MrDuffy81]

Don't worry, the Citizenry is waiting for their turn...

We need enlistees safe at home to help with the freedom movement.

These wars are fabricated for us to fight.

It is bullshit.

The CIA starts more wars than pussy does...

[edwinmichaelquiboloy]

now blackwater call themselves as Xe

[miracle4you7]

Blackwater is hurting our troops in more ways than one. They're charging money to our troops money to wash their clothes, use their computers and phones and numerous other things.

One thing I have to discredit though that these guys said is that CS gas doesnt make you feel like you're dying. At the most, your skin feels like you're getting tattoo'd and it makes your eyes water and nose run like Niagra falls.

SPC - US ARMY

[realnewsdm]

Wow, these guys are worse on civs,

and they got new bases in USA!

we are screwed!!

can you say SS.

[lyden2006]

Can you say the south will rise again?

[MrDuffy81]

Power to the STATES!

[TheWackyWorldofO]

And since blackwater did this incident guess who the people will want to seek revenge on? The troops! In their eyes they probably think an american is an american so they will want to seek revenge on the troops. Blackwater, Halliburton, CACI, and AIG corp is just a bigger burden for these 19 and 20 yr olds.

[anthonylilja]

Thank you for this information. It is only getting worse.

[LimpetShark]

Comments on this video, just some loud mouths that obviously do not know what they are speaking of. Hey I got an idea. Why dont they go and take a couple of shipments down to one of the bases that are for American Soldiers and Iraq DoI and then come back and tell me what they would have or should have done. Then they can talk with experience and not just speaking on what someone else wrote after the fact of something that did not see first hand....

FIRE IN THE HOLE.. LIMPETSHARK

[serfwrite]

URANIUM 235

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please go to freespeech()org and search for "Beyond Treason" video.

I threw up when I watched this! NS!

the part re U235 starts about 20mins in

thank you Young Turks! peace!

[clmorgan]

Blackwater IS above the law. We have a problem. Wait until there is a riot here at home and they help out by unleashing gas on US civilians. This sounds crazy I know, but they have already been "helpful" in New Orleans.

[LimpetShark]

and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

[LimpetShark]

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again

[LimpetShark]

gotestain,

That is exactly what I am saying. Americans taking the high road against there own contractors that are American and most of us are from the Special Operations Command (Retired). I was working in the DOD when it started and I just retired from the military doing Force Protection and then I got the call do what I was trained for again and get paid better than I ever have in the military.

Hate me all the way to the bank... and I get to do good for America

[BestatwhatIdo]

Shark: stay safe and come back alive. The extremists always speak the loudest, but many Americans support your endeavors.

[Gotestain]

I'm in the same boat as you brother, I'm working in Baghdad now. How long were you with the teams? I'm planing on walking that path after this contract. BTW, who does that quote belong too?

[LimpetShark]

obviously you do not understand the quote... never mind...lol

see ya in a couple of months

[mopsius]

What works for a group of eight and no neutrals will not necessarily work for a group of--you choose the higher number.

[LimpetShark]

Morpsius,

I was speaking in first person, so here is the correct. There are several of us from the SOF Community that are working for BlackWater, and yes we are retired US Military.

[mopsius]

A man who reads closely.

"If you are not with us, you are against us" is a stupid rule in war, above the tactical level.

In peace too.

[mopsius]

Generalizing from experience X may be emotionally satisfying, but usually results in false analogies.

Blackwater is a total fuck-up, in concept, in operational mode, and in results.

[mopsius]

Blackwater is also a national security risk.

So is the Bush administration.

[BobfromSydney]

I think the 'vindictive use of force' quote is very insightful.

[mopsius]

Blackwater is not military or quasi-military by contract and under the anti-Pinkerton Act of 1893.

Insofar as they act that way, they are criminals under US law, as are the people who hired them.

[LimpetShark]

You guys have to get over yourself. Blackwater is just a subject matter that you guys are just going crazy over. There are many other professional security firms that are doing things like blackwater, but you guys always try to find something that this company does out of line in your minds.

Here is a saying that we have in the Teams (Meaning SEAL Teams)

If you do not stand behind us with what we do, then by all means stand in front of us.

Fire in the HOle

[mopsius]

Blackwater has a contract as bodyguards with State.

US law, the anti-Pinkerton Act, forbids them acting in a military function.

There are no SEALS working for Blackwater.

[WKSlask5]

Blackwater is made of black water.

[mopsius]

Prince has got close to $1,000,000,000 in contracts from the Bush and Cheney administration.

[RockinRowdyRufus]

What pisses me off is that our tax dollars pay this group of Nazi nutjobs.

[Gotestain]

Blackwater protects government officials in hostile regions of the world. I think they deserve tax dollars far more than most welfare recipeants or the katrina opportunists.

[Encyclopeteia]

Why even mention welfare or Katrina? It's a dumb distraction from the real argument here. Also, do private contractors deserve $100 to do one load of army laundry (an actual example you can look up right now)? They're breaking the law *and* RIPPING US OFF.

[mopsius]

He mentions Katrina and welfare because Blackwater is part of the Rightwing Born Again and Neo-con ideological agenda.

[mopsius]

Blackwater murders innocent civilians as part of their moronic "protection" methods and they are directly responsible for US military casualties as well.

[Gotestain]

You ignorant clown. The Ministry of Interior is known to be fully infiltrated by the insurgency. Yet you BLINDLY take their word over that of men who served honorably in the US special forces??? WOW!!!

[mopsius]

A Blackwater Guard, hired only as a bodyguard according to US law, murders an Iraqi Interior Ministry guard.

Sorry pal--there is no justification you can come up with for that, claiming "security".

Got it, clown?

[Gotestain]

Did you read my comment? The part about the MoI being notoriously dirty? Odds are he was part of the attack. And as a body guard, when someone attacks you, you fight back. I know you French prefer the "Roll over and beg" strategy, but that doesn't fly in Iraq.

[serfwrite]

Great! I say you're on it! How's about a vid on the depleted uranium laced in the ground in Iraq from Bushes armor-piercing shells and the bunker busters. These bombs are just chalked-full of Uramium 235, akin to a dirty bomb, but it's ok for us to t use...

If Dr. Paul this election loses, I'm checking out

[siebelseibel76]

Be careful. Are you sure Paul wouldn't be for privatize army troops?

I know. With Paul we probably wouldn't go to war. But Blackwater is probably appealing to him.

[serfwrite]

Nope! that's the PRIVATE SECTOR

Paul wants to shrink this prostate! Like a Doc!

Under Pauls own creed, the Constitution, WE must ask for a privatization or rebel it if it arises without consent from the majority

[Gotestain]

Our tank armor is made with depleted uranium cheif. No study has been able to prove that it is in any way detremental to ones health.

[serfwrite]

The reatction takes place on impact. The uranium vaporizes and creates soo much heat that it melts itself and anything infront of it. inert Uranium 235 is practically harmless

the reaction kills by spreading activated ur frags everywhere on the ground.

[serfwrite]

URANIUM 235

I can't get the link in thru the YT filters

please go to freespeech()org and search for "Beyond Treason" video.

I threw up when I watched this! NS!

the part re U235 starts about 20mins in

thank you Young Turks! peace!

[LayneRoxxx]

aren't these guys by very definition TERRORISTS?

They are combatants that do not belong to military.

[paul19781105]

No they are not terrorists and they are protected by international law because they are employed by the U.S. and can be legally employed by "recognized US allies." BUT they are not protected by the Geneva Convention if they are captured and it is illegal for them to fight along side troops.

[mopsius]

They are not protected by International law.

They are not even legally employed as other than guards by the US.

[ArmyBlackKnights]

by definition, they are not. Blackwater is employed by the US government, whereas terrorists are not employed by any government, but may receive under-the-table financial aid from certain countries. Private military organizations are legal in the US, and they can, by law, be used by the US government through contracts.

[mopsius]

What you say is untrue. The The Anti-Pinkerton Act of 1893 (5 USC 3108) forbids the US government from employing private contractors providing mercenary, military, or quasi-military services.

[mopsius]

The Bush adminsitration got around the law by arguing for an exception for bodyguards, which is what Blackwater is supposed to be doing.

But even in that they are not obeying Fedral law.

[mopsius]

The exception is also considered debatable.

The way Blackwater operates is criminal even by US law, and the people who hired them may be criminals too by the same law.

They are also subject to war crimes prosecution.

[Gotestain]

The American capacity to respond to humanitarian and security challenges worldwide has always depended on the private sector's partnership for its responsiveness, cost-effectiveness, and quality. Since the American Revolution when George Washington wrote IOUs for supplies to sutlers and merchants to Vietnam where over 80,000 professional contractors served the country, the private sector has played a significant role in supporting U. S. national security and foreign policies.

[Encyclopeteia]

Right, because a president who ignores the Constitution is really going to pay attention to some Act from 1893.

[jcsuperstar714]

That would be true if they were supporting a political agenda or party. Right now they are not. Disengage them but let them continue to thrive and they might just find their own little personal Hitler.

[skaterockerloc]

blackwater = bush followin' texans wit guns and monstertrucks

[mephigog]

Ged rid of fucking blackwater already. What do they have to do to get canned?

[vonOhzu]

Blackwater is turning into Zapp Brannigan from Futurama.

[Encyclopeteia]

Is this Dennis Miller?

[Encyclopeteia]

Oh come on, I honestly wasn't trying to be mean, I just didn't get the reference (and have a feeling most people don't either). Does Futurama have a *cult* following? I guess, but it's no Family Guy.

[vonOhzu]

Zapp Brannigan is basically a parody of Star Trek's Capt. Kirk. For example before a space battle he would talk about it's about the future and the children and then announce he established a children's battalion who's only purpose is to be sacrificed as distraction.

[siogyumolcs]

so, we had to invade Iraq cause, erm, saddam GASED his own ppl

where are you rapeublican THUGS calling for the "invasion" of blackwater, eh?

[ogjimkenobi]

Ok this shit is seriously getting way out of hand. Those guys are over there treating it like some kind of insane military disney land, running around outta control without any parents there to disciplin them when they misbehave. This cannot be good for Americas image abroad.

[siogyumolcs]

blackwater is owned by a christian dominionist

a christian nazi

bible, flag.... and they're talking about islamofascism?

[TheYoungTurks]

Watch more at theyoungturks dot com.

[karos9]

Bull shit name you assholes how you came up with Young turks is beyond me. You know how many Armenians these assholes killed. You are truly a dumbfuck!