nice fight Valentijn unfortunately for Sefo. Ray is and allways will be known as one of the most entertaining and skilled fighters (woop woop) why hate on Sefo?......oh that's right he's not in front of you. I love seafood and and I'm sure there are many seafood lovers out there too.
good match ..always liked Valentijin since he was in RINGS..hes been around for a min, hopefully he can start gettin his wins back up & continue to evolve..hes got his losses but most were from submissions during the early mma non "crosstrain" era..i think hes catching on now
this fucking russian comentators a retards they have no idea about this sport or any fighting sport and talk like they r fucking professionals .dickheads
@Matroos0611 Ik reageer in het NL aangezien je dat bent, maar je kunt MMA vechters niet met K-1 vechters vergelijken, ze beschikken beide over specifieke kwaliteiten, zo zijn K-1 vechters vaak slecht in clinchen, maar sterk in het stoten en trappen, waar MMA vechters juist veel winnen vanuit de clinch, of op de grond door de verwurgingen of elleboogtechnieken, maar denk dat je wel 'n punt heb dat K-1 vechters sterker zijn als MMA vechters.
Wat jij hier nu precies zegt heb ik die domme amerikanen al 100x gezegd op taloze andere video's. MMA en K1 zijn totaal verschillend, en dan hoor je die domme gasten roepen dat K1 vechters ondergeschikt zijn aan MMA vechters. Natuurlijk zal een K1 vechter verliezen in UFC/MMA regels. Maar ze vergeten allemaal dat een K1 vechter gehakt van ze zal maken in K1 regels. Ik ben niet echt fan van MMA. Zoals ik al zei, het gaat erom wie er de beste worstelaar is bij MMA.
@Matroos0611 Including that one guy??? Uh whats his name..... The MMA fighter that KO'd Badr after Badr called him out to fight in a REAL MANs sport K1... Then he went on to win the K1 WGP??
Oh yeah.. ALISTAR Overeem. Thats the guy.
I fucking LOVE K1 too. And I wish Ray would have won. But how about you stop sounding so ignorant and idiotic. People that say... MMA>Boxing Vice Versa or MMA>K1 are stupid too. If you only like 1 combat sport... You arent a true Combat Sport fan..
@Matroos0611 Thats not true, there are so many good fighters who win staying upstairs (Crocop, Shogun, Wanderlei, Fedor.... etc etc). The fact is that Ray Sefo should have stayed in K1 where he was #1 but If u put a K1 fighter on MMA he will lose for sure and viceversa. Its like Myke Tyson fighting here..... no chance.
@longebor85 Sefo #1 in K1? He never was that. Didn't come even close, eventhough he was a great fighter. And that a K1 fighter will lose for sure isn't true either. Normally, yes. But not necessarly. And about the boxer: Boxers won in K1. Not even very good boxers. Mighty Mo, and Francois Botha are boxers. And f.e. Ray Mercer did ok in MMA too.
@TheDjoetma u said it all when u said "Normally". A meteor can strike the Earth tomorrow too but "normally not" so i dont understand what are u complaining about....
1 fighter who has never fought on the ground will be a dummy for a BJJ fighter like minotauro or Werdum. And i didnt say a shit about boxers in K1
@longebor85 You we're talking about Mike Tyson. I thought you meant the fact that he's a boxer and thus etc. etc. And I gave the examples because you stated that a K1 (Sefo) should've stayed in K1 because in MMA he has no chance. Boxers have won in K1 and MMA, and a K1 fighter despite the lack of groundgame, can win in MMA. In some MMA matches you don't even see ground game. Also, one can learn. Overeem, Rutten, Schilt, all stand up fighters by origin, great in MMA.
@TheDjoetma Yes, can be done but i think Sefo is too old to start learning another fighting style. Maybe 10 years before but now he is 40. Anytime somene will take him down he will lose. The best takedown defense i've ever seen is Crocop and look what happened to him vs Minotauro. The whole fight raping Minotauro 1 distraction and ... he's fucked. thats what i mean, ofc you can be a great fighter but if you are not skilled in ground or takedown defense too... u are seriously fucked.
@longebor85 I dont think Sefo was #1 in K-1. Mark Hunt was, Sefo lost to a decision to Hunt in K-1. Hunt undefeated in K-1 and is still ranked #1 in K-1. Learn some history before u comment.
@SpecialSomeone4u Who's talking about Hunt? Were talking about Sefo, and you said: "The fact is that Ray Sefo should have stayed in K1 where he was #1".
And I already said he was a great fighter. By the way, doing well against a great fighter doesn't necessarily make you great as well. F.e. Mighty Mo defeated Bonjasky, Bob Sapp defeated Hoost.
@SpecialSomeone4u You weren't talking about Hunt as I quoted. Maybe you made a mistake? Because Hunt indeed was #1 for a while. And that fight he had against Sefo is one of the iconic ones.
@SpecialSomeone4u Sefo did not lose a decision to Hunt... in that epic contest between Hunt and Sefo.. it was Sefo who got the decision,but could not carry on in the repacharge tournament due to an eye injury suffered from the bashing Hunt hading out.Maybe it is YOU who needs to brush up on his history before raving crap on here.
@clone1974 Hunt is #1. He's better than Seafood on the ground and standup. Wheres Seafood now? Hunt proved MMA in Pride and now in UFC. So Hunt is 10x better than Seafood all around. Seafood was submitted quickly in this fight. I never saw Hunt get finished this quickly in K-1 nor MMA. So get off Seafood's cock so he can ride his other fans.
@SpecialSomeone4u Maybe he wasnt ranked as #1 but he was a great fighter 56 Wins (38KO) -21 Loses. About Sefo vs Hunt.... "K-1 WORLD GP 2001 in Fukuoka". Now i say.... Learn some history before u comment.
Im a huge fan of Rays and i know that no one would mess with Ray but for competition i think is over.Lets give him a credit he just turned 40 and been in a game for years.Fully deserved place in Hall Of Fame.Well done Mr.Sefo
DAMN RAYS STILL GOT IT...CLEARLY NOT AS GOOD AS HE WAS BUT HE WAS CLEARLY DOMINATING BEFORE THE SUB. AND HAD GOOD SPEED. NICE TO SEE NONE OF THAT SOWBOATING SHIT EITHER. DEFINITELY NEEDS WORK ON HOLDING AND MORE KICKS WOULD BE GOOD. MUCH LOVE UCE.
Sefo was wooping Valentijn's ass until he did a take down and did some gay ass submission move. All tapouts and submission holds are for the weak. If you want a real victory stand up and take a punch and knock your opponent out like Mark Hunt does. That's real combat.
@easthamo it makes no differents i understand you dont now were the overeem's comes from,..haha the dutch are allround figters! even ray train sometimes in holland!
Alistair 'The Reem' Overeem and Valentijn 'The Otherreem' Overeem.
srryidonthaveaname 1 week ago
wena ctm
TheKingKnchro 1 week ago
Ray would of pucnhed the fuck out of him easy!!!
SuperFlounda 2 weeks ago
cro cop vs ray this year
TheunstopableDouche 3 weeks ago
What kind o sub was that? A neck crank?
TheOverfiendDj 1 month ago
overeem had to submit ray there was no other way
zhyarnkatie 1 month ago
@sharpanator well Ray is old now and he got too heavy
but in his prime he may have been a threat in MMA
of course, without training, a K1 fighter will always lose, but under K1 rules, a K1 fighter will eat 98% of the MMA fighters out there
shevegen 1 month ago
Is he a brother of alistar overeem or something?
kraving2rave 1 month ago
@kraving2rave yes he is
alperenjkl 4 weeks ago
@kraving2rave yes he is
tigertijger 3 weeks ago
@kraving2rave yes he is the older brother thats why alistair started to fight!
to be as good as him,.now he is bigger en stronger and better,. but stil his baby brother :-)
vanmontfoort 2 weeks ago
nice fight Valentijn unfortunately for Sefo. Ray is and allways will be known as one of the most entertaining and skilled fighters (woop woop) why hate on Sefo?......oh that's right he's not in front of you. I love seafood and and I'm sure there are many seafood lovers out there too.
james20eleven 1 month ago
Yeah was quite surprised myself Valentijn (if that's how you spell it) has a win over Randy Couture! albeit some time ago.
thesashworth 1 month ago
just like that? whats happening to ray?
rhmsr63 1 month ago
good match ..always liked Valentijin since he was in RINGS..hes been around for a min, hopefully he can start gettin his wins back up & continue to evolve..hes got his losses but most were from submissions during the early mma non "crosstrain" era..i think hes catching on now
HonzoHasegawa 1 month ago
Yeah Ray was no joke in the K1 in his earlier days. That knockout I remember a few years back of Jerome Le Banner
curtflirt2 2 months ago
ray needs an award for sportsmanship he is always happy dont matter if he loses .
Delta38K 2 months ago
this fucking russian comentators a retards they have no idea about this sport or any fighting sport and talk like they r fucking professionals .dickheads
8abrek 3 months ago
Ray is the most respectful fighter
xakervu 3 months ago
Ray is good, but he needs some time to get used to UFC
xakervu 4 months ago
This is why i DISLIKE mma....mma its NOT about who is the best fighter, but who is the bether WRESTLER!
Any of these so called MMA ''stars'' would get smashed in K1. Thats a FACT!
Matroos0611 4 months ago
@Matroos0611 Ik reageer in het NL aangezien je dat bent, maar je kunt MMA vechters niet met K-1 vechters vergelijken, ze beschikken beide over specifieke kwaliteiten, zo zijn K-1 vechters vaak slecht in clinchen, maar sterk in het stoten en trappen, waar MMA vechters juist veel winnen vanuit de clinch, of op de grond door de verwurgingen of elleboogtechnieken, maar denk dat je wel 'n punt heb dat K-1 vechters sterker zijn als MMA vechters.
Groeten
robbertvanelferen 4 months ago
@robbertvanelferen
Wat jij hier nu precies zegt heb ik die domme amerikanen al 100x gezegd op taloze andere video's. MMA en K1 zijn totaal verschillend, en dan hoor je die domme gasten roepen dat K1 vechters ondergeschikt zijn aan MMA vechters. Natuurlijk zal een K1 vechter verliezen in UFC/MMA regels. Maar ze vergeten allemaal dat een K1 vechter gehakt van ze zal maken in K1 regels. Ik ben niet echt fan van MMA. Zoals ik al zei, het gaat erom wie er de beste worstelaar is bij MMA.
Matroos0611 4 months ago
@Matroos0611 Including that one guy??? Uh whats his name..... The MMA fighter that KO'd Badr after Badr called him out to fight in a REAL MANs sport K1... Then he went on to win the K1 WGP??
Oh yeah.. ALISTAR Overeem. Thats the guy.
I fucking LOVE K1 too. And I wish Ray would have won. But how about you stop sounding so ignorant and idiotic. People that say... MMA>Boxing Vice Versa or MMA>K1 are stupid too. If you only like 1 combat sport... You arent a true Combat Sport fan..
subslament 3 months ago
@Matroos0611 Thats not true, there are so many good fighters who win staying upstairs (Crocop, Shogun, Wanderlei, Fedor.... etc etc). The fact is that Ray Sefo should have stayed in K1 where he was #1 but If u put a K1 fighter on MMA he will lose for sure and viceversa. Its like Myke Tyson fighting here..... no chance.
Anyways Sefo would have destroyed him in K1
longebor85 3 months ago
@longebor85 Sefo #1 in K1? He never was that. Didn't come even close, eventhough he was a great fighter. And that a K1 fighter will lose for sure isn't true either. Normally, yes. But not necessarly. And about the boxer: Boxers won in K1. Not even very good boxers. Mighty Mo, and Francois Botha are boxers. And f.e. Ray Mercer did ok in MMA too.
TheDjoetma 2 months ago
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SpecialSomeone4u 2 months ago
@TheDjoetma u said it all when u said "Normally". A meteor can strike the Earth tomorrow too but "normally not" so i dont understand what are u complaining about....
1 fighter who has never fought on the ground will be a dummy for a BJJ fighter like minotauro or Werdum. And i didnt say a shit about boxers in K1
longebor85 2 months ago
@longebor85 You we're talking about Mike Tyson. I thought you meant the fact that he's a boxer and thus etc. etc. And I gave the examples because you stated that a K1 (Sefo) should've stayed in K1 because in MMA he has no chance. Boxers have won in K1 and MMA, and a K1 fighter despite the lack of groundgame, can win in MMA. In some MMA matches you don't even see ground game. Also, one can learn. Overeem, Rutten, Schilt, all stand up fighters by origin, great in MMA.
TheDjoetma 2 months ago
@TheDjoetma Yes, can be done but i think Sefo is too old to start learning another fighting style. Maybe 10 years before but now he is 40. Anytime somene will take him down he will lose. The best takedown defense i've ever seen is Crocop and look what happened to him vs Minotauro. The whole fight raping Minotauro 1 distraction and ... he's fucked. thats what i mean, ofc you can be a great fighter but if you are not skilled in ground or takedown defense too... u are seriously fucked.
longebor85 2 months ago
@longebor85 I dont think Sefo was #1 in K-1. Mark Hunt was, Sefo lost to a decision to Hunt in K-1. Hunt undefeated in K-1 and is still ranked #1 in K-1. Learn some history before u comment.
SpecialSomeone4u 2 months ago
@SpecialSomeone4u Who's talking about Hunt? Were talking about Sefo, and you said: "The fact is that Ray Sefo should have stayed in K1 where he was #1".
And I already said he was a great fighter. By the way, doing well against a great fighter doesn't necessarily make you great as well. F.e. Mighty Mo defeated Bonjasky, Bob Sapp defeated Hoost.
TheDjoetma 2 months ago
@TheDjoetma Im talking about Hunt, and the fact is Sefo isnt #1 in K-1
SpecialSomeone4u 2 months ago
@SpecialSomeone4u You weren't talking about Hunt as I quoted. Maybe you made a mistake? Because Hunt indeed was #1 for a while. And that fight he had against Sefo is one of the iconic ones.
TheDjoetma 2 months ago
@SpecialSomeone4u Sefo did not lose a decision to Hunt... in that epic contest between Hunt and Sefo.. it was Sefo who got the decision,but could not carry on in the repacharge tournament due to an eye injury suffered from the bashing Hunt hading out.Maybe it is YOU who needs to brush up on his history before raving crap on here.
clone1974 2 months ago
@clone1974 Hunt is #1. He's better than Seafood on the ground and standup. Wheres Seafood now? Hunt proved MMA in Pride and now in UFC. So Hunt is 10x better than Seafood all around. Seafood was submitted quickly in this fight. I never saw Hunt get finished this quickly in K-1 nor MMA. So get off Seafood's cock so he can ride his other fans.
SpecialSomeone4u 1 month ago
@SpecialSomeone4u Maybe he wasnt ranked as #1 but he was a great fighter 56 Wins (38KO) -21 Loses. About Sefo vs Hunt.... "K-1 WORLD GP 2001 in Fukuoka". Now i say.... Learn some history before u comment.
longebor85 2 months ago
@maxxonpower what a funny dude
whatever
easthamo 5 months ago
@ThePrettyfreaky neck crank
twistlarger 5 months ago
Im a huge fan of Rays and i know that no one would mess with Ray but for competition i think is over.Lets give him a credit he just turned 40 and been in a game for years.Fully deserved place in Hall Of Fame.Well done Mr.Sefo
teanshin 5 months ago
Ray is past it - he can still fight obviously but he's definitely on the slide
crazyelves 6 months ago 2
DAMN RAYS STILL GOT IT...CLEARLY NOT AS GOOD AS HE WAS BUT HE WAS CLEARLY DOMINATING BEFORE THE SUB. AND HAD GOOD SPEED. NICE TO SEE NONE OF THAT SOWBOATING SHIT EITHER. DEFINITELY NEEDS WORK ON HOLDING AND MORE KICKS WOULD BE GOOD. MUCH LOVE UCE.
bOcaGe312 6 months ago
mark hunt was on a 6 fight losing streak his record is 6-7 and Valentijn's is 25-23 yeah just keep it standing....
ThaiShortsWreckEm 6 months ago
Sefo was wooping Valentijn's ass until he did a take down and did some gay ass submission move. All tapouts and submission holds are for the weak. If you want a real victory stand up and take a punch and knock your opponent out like Mark Hunt does. That's real combat.
howufigure8592 7 months ago
@howufigure8592 submission's are not weak..it a part of fighting..
TheDubeo 6 months ago
Lucky he didn't fight ray n his prime under K1 rules
easthamo 7 months ago 39
@easthamo Lucky for Sefo he passed his prime to....
melchiordani 5 months ago
@easthamo it makes no differents i understand you dont now were the overeem's comes from,..haha the dutch are allround figters! even ray train sometimes in holland!
vanmontfoort 2 weeks ago
Gotta love his nickname. The "otherreem"
keithcampeau 8 months ago 43
@keithcampeau His real nick name was/is "the python"
melchiordani 5 months ago
@melchiordani Yeah cool story bro.
keithcampeau 4 months ago
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CamerOneiric 8 months ago
I hate when one guy tries to make a stand up fight but one homo always has to turn it into gay wrestling
xInfamous187x 8 months ago 3
@xInfamous187x Its called MMA not kickboxing, wrong sport buddy
wetzell101 8 months ago
WTF Ray Sefo at strikeforce???!!!
jakkri1 8 months ago
@jakkri1 yes lol wtf ?? ray sefo mma ?
alakalach1 8 months ago
hij vroeger bij hoyer gym gezeten mijn oom heet loe hoyer mijn oom is de eigenaar van hoyer gym !!!!
tecoolvoorjou1 8 months ago
what a takedown lol. he was draging his knees come on son
whoodkid 9 months ago
i cnt beleive ray sefo has taken up mma after continuoisly losing in k-1
slayyyyn 10 months ago
damn that was wack if that was frank mir he would never tap that fast...shit was sloppy,if rays ground game was on point hed stand a chance...
Linebacker634 10 months ago
@Linebacker634 Mir sucks dick.
spexya 9 months ago
@1987Perroloko Thats a good submission, dunno what you talking about.
StrangeDeimos 10 months ago
fedor is the fastest heavy weight? i say ray sefo punches faster than most light weights
MyRahhrahh 10 months ago
this black guy looks like a homeless person , maybe he need help ?
smakodbytu 11 months ago
@smakodbytu FYI, he is as much white as he is black.
silus2000 11 months ago
@silus2000 if you defends him so much why did you scream like little child when one of them rapes you so bad
smakodbytu 10 months ago
@smakodbytu Maybe he can stay at your house?
StrangeDeimos 10 months ago
este peleador valentinj overemn es hno de alistair overemn....de todas formas tiene un parecido....
JOHCARNU 11 months ago
dam that was a horrible shoot,lucky for Valentijn Rays ground game amounts to shit
adrian14643 11 months ago
I bought that shirt!! VALENTIJN 2011 LET'S GO!!
mercilessMarksmen 11 months ago
Overeem brothers FTW
Dilly5 11 months ago
Nz rep
bfmvrox69 1 year ago
@bfmvrox69 why
trentbusta1 1 year ago
man the russian commentators have no idea about MMA this was not a CHOKE :)
etuar87 1 year ago
@etuar87 they have been corrected.
Berr1mor 1 year ago
@etuar87
they did not say that was a choke, listen to 3:30.
wicew 10 months ago
GooD Video, Thanks for unpload !!!!
vegilov1986 1 year ago