Pure Internal Power

[KCKproductionsTV]

Redneck?

[AbhorTheBeast]

It makes sense.

[Heathbar04011]

i think this is very true knowledge but the reason there are so many dislikes is because the information is to advanced for most people to understand.

[AikidoSushi]

I want to say that this is okay but leaves much more to be explained... people that didn't like this video just don't understand it thats all... You don't have to understand how an ocean wave works scientifcially for it to knock you down

[ombra30]

really interesting theory. i like it.

[Gungfuman77]

There is a difference between long and short power in the SOURCE of the power for each strike. The long being more external and muscular and the shorter being more tendon and internal. But PURE internal power as you titled your video would be with no movement at all and using 100% of the mind to send out an energy blast from the fist or palm into the opponent, who would feel as though they got hit with a blast of lighting and struck with a cannon ball at the same instant. That is true internal.

[ASKAGONYUNCLE]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA my teacher would kill me if he saw me watching this! 

[cloud0123]

Hi. Not criticizing. But I say on the outside you have a great sense of utility about your movement and how you use it to generate force and movement. But the internal power as others say, is not merely moving in undulating movements, or shaking. It is actually more subtle. When you mix that subtle energy (i'll call it kundalini, as the spine is more prevalent in this kind of art than other martial arts, which uses more specific term "chi) is mixed with the undulating, spiral movement.

[MindJitsu]

It would be arrogant to try to gauge your ability off what little I saw in your video; so, people who are being opinionated and criticizing are in 'the wrong' from the get go. Potential is unlimited and for all I know you are a great martial artist. However, my understanding is that 'internal power' is actually focused on the 'internal organs' and 'breathe control'. I grasp your concept of shaking but I still believe it is more a matter of using your entire body to strike, not exactly shaking.

[Gungfuman77]

@MindJitsu Internal is more derived from the breath, generated by the body and guided by the mind. This is why breathing and meditation are so critical in true internal power. It comes from neidan meditation and generating chi from the dan tien, learning to guide the chi around the body in sitting energy control meditation, then being able to direct it in time with strikes out the body and into the opponent. This often takes years to a decade or more of constant training the right way.

[Gungfuman77]

@MindJitsu The shaking he's talking about in the video is a legitimate way to build up what's known as "external internal" energy, meaning it's locally derived from the limbs and muscles, not as strong as true internal but can be very powerful when done at the right times and the timing is correct. Crane style in particular uses this kind of shaking and wave generation to build up even killing power when done correctly. But he is using it too much and not at the right times in this video.

[0mnomnomz]

@ogscott your technique seems very unique, although also effective, if this style of fighting can be so effective. Why do professional fighters such as UFC not use it? For example, if a man who was highly trained in these types of martial arts, such as shaolin or whatever, would they have an upper hand in professional level fighting? Why do we not see these techniques more often.

[Lanny2010]

First off, this guy can really fight. You gotta admit that. Secondly, I wouldn't say the word "shake" does justice to what he is trying to get through. It's the idea of using all your body, all the muscles and tendons you can, to do it, instead of just the major muscles involved in a technique. And when you have all the muscles working in unison, you simply don't have to work that hard to achieve the same effect. And when you do work hard, you get more power. This is how combat Tai-Chi works.

[ekkenaab]

are you drunken?

[ogscott]

@ekkenaab If by "drunken" you mean sexy, thought provoking, and exuding martial prowess, than yes...of course.

[chirotteri]

interesting but I would not call it pure internal power, that's something else

[lilskaters7]

2:09 - 2:17. lmfao

[ogscott]

@lilskaters7 I understand that you probably aren't familiar with that basic technique. It is called zhou or "elbow throw." It has a lot of power. I'd be happy to do it on you if you are around San Francisco. Otherwise, I'm glad you're getting a laugh!

[lilskaters7]

@ogscott Oh no, I was laughing at what was going on in the background. You know, the child cussing, and his mother yelling at him. Otherwise, this is a great video! Keep up the good work.

[ogscott]

@lilskaters7 OK sorry! I get a lot of wacko comments...LMFAO those kids are way funny...gotta love the playground!

[ttspersonalmis]

It looks a bit odd, but it's fairly accurate. Any seasoned Chen style artist does fajing in much the same way all throughout the form. It's not the only way to issue power of course, and you don't see it in Yang or Wu styles. But in Chen style it's common place. Yiquan also has some similar concepts.

[jsphotos]

Sorry folks, this guy's internal dynamics are not very good; there is a LOT of external movement going on - his is using a LOT of external, ISOLATED arm power. His example of short power delivered to the fence post is NOT short power. If one is storing properly one should be able to deliver short power at ZERO distance, while in contact with the opponent. (and there's no mumbo jumbo mystery about this; it's ALL about proper body mechanics)

[ogscott]

@jsphotos I accept your implicit challenge. Body mechanics is level 2, I'm talking here about levels 3 & 4. I can issue short power stored internally at zero distance, but it wouldn't have been visible in a video against a steel fence & would have caused injury on a body. I haven't thought of a way to convincingly demonstrate that my arm power is NOT isolated, except by actually feeling it. This is because with the use of momentum and empty full changes the two look very similar.

[jsphotos]

@ogscott "Whole body shaking" LMAO!!

[jsphotos]

Respond to this video... Sorry, Body Mechanics are always important, at every level. It's AMAZING how people fall for this stuff. There is real Taijiquan, and then there is what you are doing. 10-1 you are making money teaching your "brand" of Taijiquan. Your "whole body" does NOT shake, fella. 

[ogscott]

@jsphotos As to body mechanics, no, to do college level work you have to stop using high school level text books. Mechanics is at the beginning for a reason, it is important, but in apophatic traditions like this one you must discard. Most lessons in Tai Chi are 'what not to do.'

[jsphotos]

Respond to this video... put in Chen XiaoWang, fajing in a youtube search, and see if his "whole body" shakes. It doesn't! It's sheer power that is generated from ground and center. It's impossible (almost) to describe this stuff in writing, but what you are doing is definitely not at all related to an internal martial art.

[ogscott]

@jsphotos I took your Challenge! Chen XiaoWang shakes! Hah. His shake is close in & refined. But dude, he shakes. I realize from all your comments that I should have somewhere stated the obvious: The purpose of shaking is to shake your opponent. Unless your "whole" body shakes, it's not Tai Chi. But it also follows that the highest level would not need to ever show it, they can keep it hidden inside. I also follows that if you don't want to injure your opponent, don't shake'm up too much.

[jsphotos]

@ogscott If you understood the physical dynamics of the internal arts (consistent throughout all of them), you would know that power (a strike) can be delivered without having to move one's hand back to strike. IN other words, one can *already be in contact* with an opponent and then deliver the power of a strike *without* moving one's hand back (like you did with the fence in your demo of short power). Forget the fence; all your strikes use isolated arm power. The principals are not complex.

[ogscott]

@jsphotos What you are saying is true of the physical level of internal martial arts. I'm talking here about the Qi and Shen levels. I didn't plan that video, hitting the metal post wasn't a demonstration of prowess for crying out loud, it was just footnote like, "hey, ya'll know about short power right?" If I had hit the post without pulling my hand back there would have been nothing to see! If you wish to learn about the higher levels of this art please visit my blog "Weakness With A Twist"

[jsphotos]

About CWW, and Taiji, in general. The purpose is NOT to shake your opponent. As soon as your legs "wobble" in any one of your examples; as soon as your body propogates an obvious wave, it shows that your power is NOT connected (a basic tenet of Taiji). Your framework is "full of holes". Again, even in slow-mo, the body does NOT shake as a wave from ground to target. This stuff has to be shown by an experienced practitioner. You mean well but your fundamentals are completely without merit.

[ogscott]

@jsphotos Your arrogance proceeds you. You are of course welcome to come and test me yourself. It's disingenuous of you to conflate the purpose of shaking & the purpose of Tai Chi in general. True, wave power demonstrates not being connected, duh, it also demonstrates liquid mass, which was my point here. It can of course be hidden. A practitioner who uses body mechanics to the exclusion of liquid mass is low level. Force which travels from ground to target through the body is also low level.

[OmegaOwA]

Interesting. The 'shaking' power is the same as what I've seen masters like Chen Xiaowang and Erle Montaigue using in their fajin.

[fedvc]

lol cool vid so i guess you have to be soo scared until you start shaking lol

[oscie1]

See this is what happens when things are watered down and kept secret, EVERYONE in the comment section is definatly not talking from personal experience and just repeating stuff like a brainless puppet.

[ogscott]

@oscie1 Thank you! Please visit my blog 'Weakness with at Twist' and search for the post 'Empty like a puppet.' That is the highest level in both fighting and exorcism!

[XxlxSmoKexlxX]

SO basically when you "shake" you're shifting your energy,Chi/Qi from your feet up to where your striking for greater impact? Just like how a boxer shifts his hips for power? But instead your using the WHOLE body not jus one part of it

[ogscott]

@XxlxSmoKexlxX Sort of. The qi must go down first, and stay down, before it comes out--so that it is spherical. If you have an experience of something coming up from the feet it is probably jin (jing). Shaking comes from the rotation of liquid mass, not from ground force. The biggest difference with boxing is that pure internal should have no 'on/off switch.' Boxers are suddenly hard, then suddenly soft. Hard is vulnerable to liquid mass attacks, soft is vulnerable to long drives & seizing

[piaten]

I sorta like this video! Agree or not, everyone watching will surely understand your ideas! Gravity is a beautiful and useful concept in and of itself. But when combined with some springy compressed (rooted) peng jin, it can become really effective!

[KelGhu]

I like the personal approach of the shaking thing. But there's no internal power here. No Fa Jin whatsoever. What we see here is all Fa Li. Real Fa Jin looks supernatural, though it's not (and don't let me go into Fa Chi and Fa Shen). The teacher is talking about using the opponent body structure, that's all biomechanics and has nothing to do with internal power. Will have to dislike this because the title is misleading or you guys don't know what internal power is.

[ogscott]

@KelGhu You haven't put up any videos of your own, perhaps you aren't aware that Youtube doesn't allow for long titles. I explained what I was doing in the extended text description and if you want more detail go to my blog: Weakness with a Twist.

There was no Fa (release) here at all, that isn't the subject of the video. I haven't practiced Fa Jin in years anyway, it's aggressive and it's too easy. Fa Shi (potential) I do practice, but you'll have to come see me in person if you want a demo.

[KelGhu]

@ogscott

About the title, irrelevant. We should agree to disagree here. Title is misleading for me.

Real shaking power is is Fa jin. It's a vibrational power from the ching plane. But it's so subtle, you don't see people shake like the teacher does here. Here, I see shaking power like a way to move oneself.

And Fa Jin is not necessarily more aggressive. And it has minimal movement. Because it comes from the soft tissues. So you don't have to move to project the energy, just a touch is enough.

[KelGhu]

@KelGhu

One last thing, giving up on Fa Jin is not good. It keeps you from transforming your Qi in Jin which is one of the goal you have to try achieving if you are really into Taoism and Taichi. One should try to understand them all and master them all to master oneself. Jin, Qi, Shen... I don't know what to say more here.

[ogscott]

@KelGhu You're in way over your head and you don't know what you are talking about. Jing and Qi distill in stillness, and when we drop our aggression. If one cultivates emptiness and weakness, fa jin training falls away like dried up onion skins.

[ogscott]

@KelGhu Are you saying that by your definition pure internal means that I never attack the opponent's structure or biomechanisms? So only the opponents' mind is attacked? It's possible to only attack the mind, but that's an unnecessary limitation on the term 'pure internal.' As one of my teachers used to say, "If you are going to hit someone, you want it to break bones."

[KelGhu]

@ogscott

It seems like it's black or white with you. You know better than that if you follow the Yi King... But yes, PURE internal has no movement at all. From the instant you move, you have external in it. I'm not saying it is bad. I'm just saying the title is bad. It really is.

What is the limitation? Yin symbolizes internals and stillness amongst other things. Pure yin is pure yin. If we don't speak the same language, obviously we won't understand each other.

[ogscott]

@KelGhu Well, thanks for hanging in there, I do think we could have a productive conversation in person. The "YI King?" To do pure internal the yi can not be in the body at all and outside the body it can not come to a point, it must be spherical. In technical fighting it is very valuable to learn economy of movement, like how to hit while barely moving. However at higher levels the body can be totally quiet and in motion, while being unstoppable, unliftable, and totally wild.

[ogscott]

@KelGhu Also just a point of clarity. Yin and Yang represent opposite categories. Yang being pure, yin being impure. I have heard the term 'pure yang' to describe aspects of the spacial mind which are lighter than qi, it seems like another way of saying shen, but allows for an additional layer in the processional order of mind/body. Pure yin, I haven't heard. That's ontologically confusing- Like, 'so sweet it's salty.' Or Totally turbid. Or golden poo.

[grasshopper108]

is that kenny everett??

[MrMadlips]

The Art of Hill Billyrate...its base on old monk scripture only those skillful enough indulge in such techniques...

[poulperadieux]

It's not a parody?

[p796]

This video is about using gravity and momentum against an opponent. It does NOT give you a recipe against fast-thrown punches. There are dozens of situations where this can be applied. Real fight is not only about fast punches. Real fight is about improvising and using your gravity is an element of successful improvisation in any fight. Something for you guys to reflect on and explore for yourselves. Any martial art is self-exploration and builing up the style that fits you best.

[ogscott]

Again, you offer nothing to theory. Dude wake up! This video is about pure internal power. And you're going to get people hurt if you tell them something so totally stupid as that they are training for "real combat" "on the street." That's a fantasy. That's just ignorance. An unwilling opponent is one you surprise attack, and only predators, and SWAT teams do surprise attack.

[geneticexpert1]

@ogscott accusing someone else of being ignorant is ignorance in itself. you dontknow anything about this guy or his gung fu other than what youve seenhere. he obviously has experience in realistic combat and has his own theories about it,and all he wanted to do was voice his opinion by making this video and allow otherpeople to possibly gain some sort of knowledge or realization from it. if you cant absorb something positive from this just ignore,but there are people that found this interesting

[ogscott]

@geneticexpert1 howdy, I think you are getting the response comments confused. Youtube has terrible formatting, and it is often confusing who wrote what. Commenter Chikunefowdo didn't offer any evidence of his experience and he didn't offer a video either. But I did call him ignorant after 5 or so exchanges in which he offered nothing except the claim that rooting and structure are gods.

[chikunejowdo]

"people will get hurt" we are responsible as teachers for what we teach, if we teach things that are wrong people will get hurt"on the street""unwilling opponent" for any technique to work it must be tested in a real combat situation, so show us somebody throwing full fast punches and lets us see your techniques work.it is fin a dandy to talk theory ,but better be tried and tested before its is taught.

[ogscott]

@chikunejowdo What makes me sick is martial artists who try to tell somebody their stuff doesn't work. I have no respect for you at all. Why? Because the problem with martial arts is, they ALL WORK! People who are obsessed with that are fools living in a dream world. There is so much more to martial arts than worrying about some fantasy riddled test. You're just stuck in some domination ritual wishing you could be king of the monkeys.

[chikunejowdo]

my prove it with gloves, simply referd to showing your skill and theory with an unwilling opponent. further more i don not do any sport fighting, i do study traditional gongfu. i never sadi mine was better, i dont believe in mine is better than yours, i simply stated and will state again that you are responsible for what you teach. and what i have seen is goint to get people hurt, now if you can show an unwilling aggressive opponent and you can still do as you claim i will apologize.

[ogscott]

@chikunejowdo Listen, I gave you a chance to present your ideas and now you've smootzed it. When you say people are gonna get hurt it's like you are shouting with your head in the dishwasher, nobody knows what you are talking about. What the heck is an unwilling aggressive opponent? What I needed for this demo was someone who had been shot out of a cannon a hundred times (Greg), a person who knew how to avoid getting hurt. Make your own dang video puppy face!

[chikunejowdo]

Im sorry but it looks good when your opponent is willing, put pads and gloves on him and shows a video of him attacking you full force. i have 13 years experience in chow gar mantis which is an internal style. and your description of shaking power is unrealistic, the theory is almost correct, but you knowledge and understanding in that of a novice. be careful how you teach this as you will be responsible for getting people hurt. 加油！认真练习

[ogscott]

@chikunejowdo That's a little harsh and ill thought out, and your "prove it with gloves" just tells me that you do sport fighting, not traditional gongfu. But I'd be happy to entertain your theory of shaking power and if it's better I'll toss mine in the trash and use yours.

[newbielives]

Great explanation , keep up the great work, really surprised by all the dislikes

[cottonfistman1]

I see quite a few dislikes on this post? maybe people don't understand whats being shown or have never seen internal arts? personally I liked the post and think this guy is really working at and studying his art and himself, good work my friend.

[MkGtmusic]

lol

[valleywineandcheese]

Thanks Ogscott

I train Aikido, tho perhaps I would shorten it to Aiki these days. A lot of great stuff being investigated here...movement and flow without opposing force, the relax of the shake allowing a harnessing of structure and power while moving freely.

Also thanks for having the strength to put your place on the path up for critique.

There are many who have posted that could learn from a person, a searcher, who wishes to share freely.

Kelly

[CaptainBubblePants]

Interesting,how many people who watch this video,are quick to point out what they can do better and what their personal opinions are in regards to martial arts or fighting in general.

I understand how some people may think it looks funny or rubbish because the majority of the viewers watching,have no idea (if any) about "shaking power" or "chi".

Great Vid Scott,I agree with everything you have stated in this video. Thanks for posting!

[ogscott]

@CaptainBubblePants Thanks for the kind words! Do check out my blog as most of my ideas get played out there a lot before they make it into video... NorthStarMartialArts (dot) com/blog1

[xxc3lld4m4gexx]

"you're so full of shit..fuck you" wow kids are awesome eh?...anyway, dude your system is flawed...i'd be more then happy to meet up to prove it? *this is not an aggressive attempt on my part btw, im just interested in meeting other martial artists to discuss technique*

[ogscott]

@xxc3lld4m4gexx Wow dude, weird...you sound like split personality. Cool effect. Unfortunately I don't tolerate bad words in the comments because I want kids to see this stuff. If the comments are all skanky parents get up set. So anyway I'm going to delete your post but if you really want to meet up go to my website: North Star Martial Arts, I'm easy to find.

[xxc3lld4m4gexx]

@ogscott the dirty words im saying are said in your video bro, one of the little kids out on the playground screams it at 2:14 lol guess you missed it XP

[ogscott]

@xxc3lld4m4gexx Oh yeah, that's funny I forgot. Alright I'll leave it up there as a social commentary on the poor parenting practices of America's wealthiest neighborhoods.

[CoolFool002]

I thought it was interesting! I do something a bit different, but I think I understand what you do to a certain degree though it's not my style. But would you say, that the shaking power can be compared to the power genererated by the twisting of hips and hands in traditional karate? If not, what is different then?

[ogscott]

@CoolFool002 Yes, I would compare it to hip twisting techniques in other styles but that doesn't mean it is the same. With internal styles the whole body is made into one liquid mass. Karate like most external systems generally uses tension and then release, tension release, in quick succession. So they have whole body mass when they are tense but they can't move. When they are moving they are vulnerable because they have lost mass and unity.

[epheseus]

Kudos ogscott. I try and do a bit of research before posting negatives, to save myself some embarrassment. About a year ago, I shared some of the prior post skepticism and couldn't quite get your demo. I didn't post, I looked up your channel, website, and lineage; kept my opinion to myself. You wacky light hearted folks are hard to interpret after a Chen Xiao Wang demo, but, during this viewing, I could see the principles at play in your video.

[ogscott]

@epheseus Thanks for the awesome feedback. I'm in an exciting period of learning that has taken me way past this particular video from over a year ago. More to come. The big problem with this format is that it is very hard to adapt what I say or show to the specific level (or experience) of particular watchers.

[jmacatx]

You're a kook and I love it! I haven't heard anyone talk about shaking like that, but your statement about staying potential seems to tie it together with what I understand. Very interesting!

[Islam4life2010]

im also surprised you understand shaking power....not many masters understand it!

[Islam4life2010]

your ok.....you seem to be on the right track....but i dont think your breathing is as good as it should be...but well done!

[SocialistDemocracy]

I like what your doing but your theories seem a bit flawed. The shaking is extremely un-synchronized with wholesome body movement weakening the direct force for any "long power" or "short power" action. Internal energy is beyond any concept one can in-vision. Ones being, actual true self is main indicator of your energy. Acceptance or nonacceptance to a fight happens on many levels of ones self and im afraid the philosophies you are teaching are creating false knowledge on the matter.(imthesame)

[gadfly1235]

the reason You can't make the techniques work is because you lack the experience and skill.

[gadfly1235]

You've quite obviously never been in an actual fight.

The reason that we train in the traditional arts is to train our bodies and our sensibility in timing, distance and efficient use of force..  In an actual confrontation an observer will not see anything like the training postures and techniques, but they are present. There is no magic involved, you actually use your muscles to move your body. Give it another ten years and train your muscles not your mouth. You may catch on.

[xDCx2201]

your theories on internal energy or ki are, interesting. personally i have found through many years of training that internal energy does nothing for the physical body but if trained correctly heightens your mental senses and conditions them for fighting. such as reading an opponents body language/fighting style to read when an attack is coming. even from behind. the idea of physical power is nothing more than fantasy.

[ogscott]

@xDCx2201 The purpose of training is not really to develop energy or mind, it is to harmonize and unify them (yihe). You are correct in the sense that energy doesn't create body power. But when mind, energy and body are harmonized (put in the right order) the mind can then move the body with maximum speed and freedom yet without effort. There is some change to the physical body from this type of practice, it is usually described as becoming more youthful.

[zacks1314]

@ogscott exactly you see a person is only uses 1-10% the most after that people cant do amazing things, i remember when my master used a punch with a lot of ki. god after 4 years and i still am hurting only by thinking about it

[noclouds111]

@ogscott Thank you for speaking of the harmony of body, mind, & energy. They cannot, and should not be separated. The best trainings take this into account. One on this path also becomes a whole person.

[zacks1314]

@xDCx2201 exactly you see a person is only uses 1-10% the most after that people cant do amazing things, i remember when my master used a punch with a lot of ki god after 4 years i still am hurting only by thinking about it

[JazzRastaf]

@xDCx2201 Then what you have been training for many years is not internal energy.

[kosovo83]

The hook punch you displayed first is incredibly valid. If someone has their hands up it is used to pull their guard down and expose their head.

Also, if they're fighting like a wild animal, the jab and cross are your best bet to take em down.

[ogscott]

@kosovo83 Normally when people fight they have an on/off switch-suddenly with power, suddenly without. The use of pure internal power requires that our power be on all the time. My movement may look like a jab or a hook but it isn't a technique, it is a way of moving. If someone has their hands up to guard then you already have them on the defensive. You can just as easily push them up and attack low-if you can get close enough.

There is on "best" technique for fighting a wild animal.

[ogscott]

@kosovo83

There is a Chinese saying: "Wild man beats the master."

Even the worst technique has a chance to win.

[uncleedoo]

long and short are not the same you would not have a 3cm ruler and say its the same as a 30cm ruler.......the concept is the same but the technuique isnt.

[woyoudama]

Delusional...

[mnemonicmike]

Shaking power is sort of a poor-man's, incomplete approach to the use of nei jin. It's certainly not "pure internal power". But it's an interesting video. Reminds me of a lot of western attempts to figure things out, usually based on Shaolin stuff.

[ogscott]

Thank you for the comment. I'd be inclined to agree with you but I'm doing nei shi (potential power), not nei jin. If a tiger catches a monkey, even though the tiger totally dominates, the monkey may still be able to poke out an eye. Thus the highest level must still be able to shake it's prey at the end.

[wagfinpis]

thank you for thinking out loud. this guy in my opinion is just sharing his insight. take it for what it is. it is obvious that he is not a proficient fighter or master. he is just sharing. on the other hand there are a lot of men out there with bloated titles leading people to believe that they are the truth and the way. i have never seen any 1 who is a example of tai chi chuan at a high or middle level by original old school standards. he is just another enthusiast spouting his ideas out loud.

[ogscott]

Since you declare you have never seen taijiquan done well, what basis are you using for your opinion? 

How would you know "proficient" if you saw it?

[wagfinpis]

the basis of my statement is not my personal opinion. what i said is based on the the descriptions of skills that were used proficiently by masters when the classics were written. i do not mean to say that you are not competent to protect your self.

[ucylander1]

I thought you were joking until i realised you actually take your teaching seriously. The level of compliance and silliness from the dummy, i dont mean to be disrespectful but you are making internal practitioners look silly. Please make a video with a non compliant partner who has actually been in fights. The internal and external masters i have met have control, where as this is all over the place. Keep up your training

[ogscott]

The 20th Century stole the comic element from traditional martial arts because the old masters were shamed. We, as Americans or Australians, don't have that history, we don't need to perpetuate that ghost.

Comedy is the necessary balance to power.

The myth of the "non compliant" partner is used to hypnotize people. R

And friend, reality IS messy.

[ucylander1]

I can tell you are a nice person, something that isnt always there in martial arts, I just feel there is a lot of substance and reality missing. Reality is messy, but through training there should be control, i am seeing a lot abrupt movement. IN energy transfer such abruptness can be used but holding the shoulders and jerking constantly may not be the key. I apologise for seeming so serious U r a nice guy(better than being a mean martial artist.)

[zenflowrappings]

And: discard the bohemian scarf!

[zenflowrappings]

Right. You talk about "real" while your partner is acting the passive Dummy. Many individuals/specialists lack actual fighting insight/experience. Although I like the shaking approach...though it should be more vibration/alternating frequencies than shaking only. Check your sperm.

[onemindonespirit]

I would respectfully recommend that you actually get into a fight. Don't spar someone, don't spar your student, actually get someone to fight you, whether in a fight club or enter in a (full contact) fighting event like san shou or mma or whatever. I think if you did that you would get your eyes opened as to what you can actually apply.

[ogscott]

Fine I'll sign up for a beef-cake heavy petting zoo if you sign up for a ballet class. Fair is fair.

[onemindonespirit]

In that case I would wonder why you talk about real fighting and real application if you never actually do it. If you really relegate full contact fighting as some kind of joke, why not just be honest and say that you just train for health? There's nothing wrong with that. Or are you one of those "i'm too deadly for the ring" types? Again, no disrespect, just saying...let's keep it real.

[ogscott]

OMOS, I'm not trying to be evasive. You simply don't understand the field. It is not a debate between real or fake. Performance or Killing. It is much more complicated and deep than that. If you want to have an intelligent discourse with me on the subject then visit my blog where I have written about 500 posts. Weakness with a twist (dot) com.

[lutochin]

It nice to see someone talk about the real energy of a fight. Nice work.

[Jayredthorn]

As silly as the shake looks I love the power of the move! Great video!

[shawn6669]

love the kids in the background

[mdub2000]

did you hear the llittle kid go F*** you lol the teacher was like "no no we dont use language like that" ahahahaha kids now adays!

[jwhitenstall]

Bollock, slang term for testicle, some people have no manners. I liked the video, I also like your very loose internal style. I notice your good use of elbow positioning, very xing-yi/wing-chun like. To calm those that doubt, it may be worth your time posting a video featuring full speed non rehearsed attacks being dealt with. Will keep watching.

Peace

[FamilyQuan]

Pure bollocks.

[ogscott]

A bollock is an ox right? Do you have secret you're not telling?

[FamilyQuan]

Gee, you want to appear as a charming master who disarms foolish, rational people with humour and faux-childish antics. Whereas, in realty, you're just a con-man. The only secret I have is hard training and honesty.

[ogscott]

If you're going to call me dishonest with out the slightest bit of justification. I'll just delete you. If you have something to contribute please do so.

You think you've worked harder than me? Evidence?

[FamilyQuan]

Well gee, just the fact that you see hard work as a contest rather than an aim in itself says enough. As for evidence - well gee again, are you incapable of arranging an honest demo of your own stuff, and so rely on telling others to do better than your fraud? Get a real opponent to put some gloves on and really attack you - then let'ssee your real internal power, rather than your external lie.

[ogscott]

Family, that's true, I don't see hard work as an aim unto itself. That's slavery.

Real opponents don't put on gloves. They hit you first, by surprise, with an intent to do serious damage. There is nothing dishonest about my demo, and there is no legal way to do what you are asking. I'm not a sport fighter and I make no claims to that effect.

I am not relying on others to do better than me, what would that prove any way?

No fraud here, do your own experiments, come to your own conclusions!

[ogscott]

Oh, and by the way, since I checked your Channel (what, no videos of your own yet?) is there anything I said or showed which is inconsistent with the writings of Wang Xiangzhai?

My blog has 500 posts and I have 24 videos on Youtube, every bit of it is open to critical analysis and debate.

[ogscott]

(delete)...Vitriol will not be tolerated. I asked you clear questions and you gave me bile. Does your teacher know you are trash talking on Youtube? Would she/he approve?

This is a Friendly Challenge to you and everyone else out there reading this.

I challenge you to find people out there on Youtube who are explaining how internal martial arts work in clear language. If what they say contradicts me all the better.

Youtube can be a treasure or a curse. It's up to us.

[narayanr]

How is my African brother doing?

I'm just kidding.

Good to see the continuity of your practice, sir.

[mrwhippy40]

Very interesting video - ended up pretty much reading your entire blog afterwards and it's given my much food for thought! Re: the shaking - apart from Erle Montaigue, you're the only person in T'ai Chi I've seen demonstrating this as a method of application...this seems somewhat controversial in the T'ai Chi world (like Erle himself) - as an aside people are damn precious about the finer points of their T'ai Chi yet hardly anyone seems to be able to demonstrate any concrete abilities...

[mrwhippy40]

PS keep up the irreverent work - too many in the martial arts appear to be firmly lodged up their own backsides!

[macmus98]

I liked the Hula dancing at 1.20 - that was wicked! :)

I posted one of my 'shake free' videos as a response.