Ninjutsu Soke Toshitsugu Takamatsu Teaches Techniques VIII

[tkbomber]

I kinda wish we would wear white gi's in the Bujinkan

[dkrto]

Dont worry about arteanor... he is a complete and utter joke that likes nothing but argue online about something he doesn't know and has only read about.

[Arteanor]

@dkrto

still talkin shit instead of simply showing ANY EVIDENCE for the claims of ninjutsu as put forth by the BJK????

it shows how ROCK SOLID your position is, since you show up and beat me down with citations and evidence.... ah right, you can't because even your soke knows what he has is bogus, not proof of anything more than Takamatsu making up a story...

[Arteanor]

@dkrto "Tatara magazine page 6.

John Lindsey in an interview with Tanemura S asks: "Did Takamatsu S always call it Togakure ryu?":

"Not at first. When he was associated with the Kuki family he planed to introduce Kukishin Ryu Ninpo in the form of scrolls and densho. But after the war he distanced himself from the Kuki family and decided not to do this. then he met Hatsumi S. and Fukumoto s. Takamatsu S.i decided to teach them Ninpo. That is when he decided to use the name Ninpo"

[fardisghomeshi]

there is a 70+ yr old man throwing around a 25+ yr old prob weighting 180+ pounds w ease.

[MrAaronch]

Total Badass. A true legend.

[drummasterxxx]

Sometimes I wish he could have lived forever.

[rakanzrib]

@drummasterxxx & kick every whining b*&ch's @ss that moans about fraud this-- hatsumi that-- bla bla bla-- ninjutsu isn't real bla bla bla -- [enter mongol tiger, ancient mixed master and samurai (ninja), proceeds to wipe the floor with their UFC fanboy @ssz]

[Huhmasta]

Toshitsugu Takamatsu is by far the craziest motherfucker who ever lived. A fragile old man who's killed over hundred men with his hands. wtf.

[narutoiga88]

Takamatsu was blind in one eye and deaf in one of his ears.He got all those from all the fighting he did when he was young.

[femoman]

To anyone who thinks that Hatsumi is a fraud: meet this guy!

Good old Takamatsu. Totally bloody lethal, but he looks really friendly.

[Cagedand3nRaged]

Takamatsu was a badass. I heard stories about him through my old sensei and I did some research myself.

[fardisghomeshi]

@Cagedand3nRaged care to share them?

[Cagedand3nRaged]

@fardisghomeshi

Look him up my friend! The man has quite the legacy.

[eirikr94]

I've heard from someone on my training that when Takamatsu was fighting a shaolin warrior he broke his own arm just too take him down

[MuayThai31681]

Thats ridiculous why would you have to do that.

[EpochZer0]

Do you place a higher value on your life or your arm?

If I was in a situation where I had to sacrifice my arm to survive - I'd do it.

There's also that one desert hiker who got trapped under a boulder and snapped his own arm, then cut away the remaining flesh with a dull pocket knife in order to live.

Humans will do anything they can to survive - we are all just animals, and we will act as such.

[MuayThai31681]

No why would you have to break your arm to take someone down. Rediculous!

[natgaint]

A couple of months late but oh well. What happened was he was being held in a arm bar of sorts. Instead of being held there and getting stabbed he broke his own arm. He didn't break his arm trying to throw someone. That would be ridiculous.

[worryphree]

Sounds like the old idea of getting a bunch of people in a circle. The first person is given something to whisper to next person and so on. By the time it gets back to the beginning it's entirely not the original thing. What was actually said is something in aikido teaching about the old days of the Samurai. The idea is that to defeat the foe, one would sacrifice getting injured, as long as the foe was vanquished. Aikido says no to that. Both parties must come out uninjured.

[natgaint]

That is why Aikido is a joke. When going to war there are no rules. It is either kill or be killed, if you do not train with that in main. You will be killed. It would be great if everyone had the same point of view as Aikido but they don't.

[Huhmasta]

@natgaint if you ask me, aikido is more of a "conceptial" art rather than a practical one. You learn the sense of how to work around your opponent without directly meeting force with force. However, you're screwed when a dude and his friends have clubs and knives and all you have is "I'm going to be completely passive". i''d prefer something like hapkido, which has the passive concept and joint locks but with some nasty kicks and punches.

[Arteanor]

@natgaint

"That is why Aikido is a joke. When going to war there are no rules"

oh the irony..

aikijutsu is a battlefield art... it was used to knock opponents from their feet, and SMASH them off of the ground...

it works off of a principle of a dedicated attack... it has also proven itself in the CENTURIES that it has been used ON THE BATTTLEFIELD.

the irony tho, is in the fact that you are posting vid of a style made up by a man who has NO military experience, complaining about it

[natgaint]

@Arteanor I have no beef with Aiki Jujitsu. That is a hardcore combat art. I have felt it first hand. Aikido is not Aiki Jujitsu. Aikido is Ueshiba's end of journey through Aiki Jujitsu. To get as good as Ueshiba one must take the same journey.

[Arteanor]

@natgaint

then maybe you want to clarify/quantify your previous statement "That is why Aikido is a joke. When going to war there are no rules"

i was unaware that aikido trained for rules... it certainly isn't a competitive art...

and you seem to be ignoring the irony of you posting such a comment HERE.

on a video of a man who has NO military background, who knows a handful of legit arts, and a handful of illegitimate ones...

why not attack takamatsu rather than aikido?

[natgaint]

@Arteanor- Simple fact Aikido is not Aiki Jujitsu.

[Arteanor]

@natgaint agreed. your point?

why would you say something as stupid as "When going to war there are no rules" about a martial art that does not train in rules?

and why do you do it on a fake ninjutsu schools video?

owning up and answering is the easiest way to end this, or you can walk away and hang your head in shame.

[natgaint]

@Arteanor First we have to assume that what you say is fact. Why do you say that Takamatsu's style is fake?

Second of all there are Aikido tournaments. So how again do they not train for rules?

If you don't think that Aikido is the same thing then why did you say this?

"aikijutsu is a battlefield art... it was used to knock opponents from their feet, and SMASH them off of the ground..." When we were talking about Aikido?

[natgaint]

Mind not main....

[worryphree]

Ah, yes. I see it, now!

[tchlubna]

nice...we are doing similar thing in karate

[hsv4me74]

yeah i ve done karate and ninjutsu and find ninjutsu better ...

[kalmah321]

very practical, showing how the same technique can be changed to suit different situations. The leg sweep was not meant to hit, alot of judo schools when teaching a technique sometimes do that just because they are teaching the technique not doing it.

[Kberiotwhn]

this guy is in his 90's here, he's not trying to show how amazing he is. he had already led a life of constant danger and is simply trying to convey some of the most basic principles of movement and creative use of the body in combat.

[vmaxium]

hatsumi will always make a move from a mistake,real martial arts,ive trained with him,but watch the leg sweep from takamatsu,it misses,there is a delay....never the less he is good

[MyoushinRyuNinjutsu]

Now that's Ninjutsu.

[slapupchrist]

No, MyoushinRyuNinjutsu. It is NOT NINJUTSU. It is JUJUTSU. Why the hell are you ninja wannabes so damn ignorant??? For goodness sake, please at least learn the meaning of the word 'ninjutsu'.

[MyoushinRyuNinjutsu]

I'm not a ninja wannabe and I know what Ninjutsu means. I know that it is Taijutsu/Jujutsu/Jutaijutsu or whatever you wanna call it. I'm realy serious about Ninpo, okay. The only ones that I hate more than Ninja haters are Ninja wannbes. I'm just expressing my appreciation for this video, okay?

It's like saying "Now that's trendy." when you see a punk guy passing by. I just associate this technique wyff what I view Takamatsu Sensei wyff.

[slapupchrist]

No, MyoushinRyuNinjutsu. The word 'ninjutsu' DOES NOT MEAN TAIJUTSU or JUJUTSU. Okay? It means something completely different. Just as tennis doesn't mean boxing, so ninjutsu doesn't mean taijutsu. That's a fact and you need to get educated.

[shintogunjin]

what does ninjutsu mean

[slapupchrist]

The word 'ninjutsu' means the art of stealth and perseverance. It has nothing to do with fighting techniques. You can't say "I'm going to use ninjutsu on that guy to kick his head in". The fighting techniques in the Bujinkan are either unarmed (jujutsu) or armed (bojutsu, kenjutsu, etc).

The word 'ninjutsu' DOES NOT REFER TO FIGHTING TECHNIQUES.

Get it, people???

[calibansfury]

Etymological study is different than appropriate usage. While taijutsu, bojutsu, kenjutsu are specific subsets of techniques, they are subsets specific to ninjutsu. You would agree that the bojutsu of Okinawan Kempo or jojutsu of aikido are different from those in ninjutsu. Therefore the techniques are specific to the art, and it is not incorrect to say one "used ninjutsu" as this is simply saying they used a ninjutsu fighting technique (jutsu) from an appropriate subset.

[Philosophical101]

Wasn't he the guy who ate glass and lizards as part of his training?

[alfista145]

The other guy is Hatsumi, right?

[RodCornholio]

I would assume so, as well as the person doing the voice over.

[RodCornholio]

A legend from when times were much rougher than they are now.

This video is the closest thing to a time machine we have, to see how a real ninja moved.

[xRH84x]

YES YOU´RE RIGHT!

[jackalwillis]

Yes he was very skilled. Too many of the arts that were considered very powerful and dangerous back in the day, have been watered down. But once a art regains it's warlike nature it is dangerous again.

[Dillonww]

hell yeah! i never knew there was footage of takamatsu. thats sweet

[nicktheone118]

He is one of my greatest idols, only every heard about him and his stories and read a few books on him. I have been waiting to see this footage for ages and finally somebody has it to share, thankyou very much =)

[syrea6]

Takamatsu was absolutely hardcore, I love watching his taijutsu, it looks so dangerous when it's being done by the last true ninja.

[viceroid]

It's amazing, don't you think. Unique Content.

[DCTsensei]

This is the real Ninjitsu master. He was known as the Mongolian tiger when he defeated more than 12 people to the death. He died at the age of 85.