Looks like the shot at 3:40 went right. Wasn't his driver though. My guess is the shaft was not stiff for him. Just a guess. But Hogan's clubs were known for being super stiff. Even at his age he is hitting it pretty well here.
To elabourate...imagine we could get to study Hogan nowadays on a Trackman...or know his thought process while playing...what makes him and his swing tick. Or get him on a 3D swing imaging machine like they have now. It is there to SEE on video yes...but to know his intent (conscious), his process to get where he did, etc. Maybe he was just super talented. Or maybe he knew a lot he didn't say. Who knows. I presume he did not just practice like he did to get in repetitions. He learned, I presume.
@Rick102667 Don't want to be too disrespectful to you or he...but I could mostly care less! 1. It happens 2. this is one of the best golfers ever and quite possibly the most skilled ballstriker ever. We cannot have enough on him if you ask me. We shoulda known as much about him as possible before he died, if he were willing of course. I hate all the mystery and misinformation surrounding this man. What is needed is the most detail possible. The ultimate would be to get inside his head but....
@paulski5 Hope that is not too much to say I could care less...honestly I do not want to be rude...but really people...we need to know as much as we can about the greats of anything if you ask me. What the hell is the point of us toiling over all the answers if it has been done already. It is redundant and inefficient. I understand there is an individual component. All I would like to see is completeness of information. Certain things deserve that. Maybe somehow there is a good reason but...
WALRU.... Why do you have such a vendetta against him? You have about 30 posts on here all discussing how terrible of a person hogan was. Why the obsession?
As a Texan I can understand and appreciate what Mr Hogan's comments to his company's buyer of his business/over achievement (in reaction to his father's suicide) meant, and it is not a matter for you
WALRU11 to blow out of proportion for the sake of u-tube notoriety. As someone who has never had to support his family by his play on a golf course I cannot begin to judge this man by manner in which he chose to
"U-tube noteriety." That's a hoot! I am simply calling it as I both saw it, read it, & know it from others who knew him. Don't get me wrong. On the one hand, I have tremendous admiration & respect for Hogan the player. His single-minded determination is an unequalled testament to grit & courage & for a time he became simply the greatest. But alas, his flaws & failures as a human being in a gentleman's game that teaches character are tragic, disheartening, & at times almost inexcusable.
@rea082151 "Go F yourself ignorant ahole." Small wonder such a classless mental pygmy as you turns out to be a knee-jerk worshipper of such an offensive self-absorbed small-minded misfit as Ben Hogan. FYI: Golf is the gentleman's game - & Hogan failed to uphold its noble standards despite his mastery of its technical aspects. He was, like you, rude, offensive, solipsistic, and woefully uneducated. Your response reveals you to be unworthy to play the game of golf.
@WALRU11 All you ever have achieved in life compared to Ben Hogan is like a fart in a tornado. Who the fuck are you to talk about a legend like Ben Hogan? You didnt even know him, never would have made it in his league. And besides, Ben Hogan educated himself, he was he even more known for his gentlemanly behaviour than anyone else. You think of yourself as classy, well then you should know that talking shit about a legend who has passed away is not classy at all.
@samimalmstrom Who am i? Why, I'm part of the public that financed Ben Hogan's career and thus have every right to criticize his appalling behavior to others of his trade to whom he displayed rudeness and boorish behavior. He was NOT "more known for his gentlemanly behavior thananyone else." Far from it. That distinction goes to Arnold Palmer whom Hogan treated abysmally.
@WALRU11 Palmer is over rated. Just a product of media, corporations, and simply political propaganda during the cold war to give the sheep of America something to believe in, just like Elvis and Marylin Monroe. Nicklaus and Hogan were true talents with true character and didnt 'get along to go along'. You either like them or not. Palmer was made everybody's darling, and therefore lacked charisma. Sounds more like u r agitated by the fact that Hogan didnt like Palmer b/c everybody else did.
@samimalmstrom Hogan was a rude little Texan & Nicklaus a spoiled Teutonic egoist, both of whom lacked true sportsmanship. All that mattered to them was winning & they treated their fellow pros with disdain. Palmer had it all - a better all-around game than Nicklaus (who stunk from 100 yds in, but over-powered courses from the tee & could putt fast greens). Hogan refined his swing but little else.
I would go and do some reseacrhc before you post these unfounded ideas you have about the man, you clearly know very little about his life, comapring his upbringing to Palmer etc, ridiculous.. And his problems on the greens were because of a detached retina from the crash (in which he saved his wifes live). He couldn't judge distance and his eye sight deteriorated further. As I say, you seem to know very few facts about him but have some very string opinions.
I did indeed "reseacrhc," in my "comapring" his upbringing before posting my "string" opinions...tell the truth - it's you who suffers from the detached retina - or do you fat-finger the keyboard as much as your putz?
Sorry, I totally disagree that he had a sense of worthlessness, or was a rude man, you cannot know anything about the man to have that opinion. Not one person who knew Hogan well would agree. I've read every book, have every DVd etc, that opinion doesn't hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever. And Hogans hardship is ten times any of those you quote, he watched his father blow his brains out at 9 years old, and you wonder why he grew up (through the depression) a bit sharp!!
X-man: Hogan WAS rude. When he sold his business to the Japanese his last words to the new owners were, "Don't fuck it up." Now THAT'S totally classless.
He refused to call Arnold Palmer by his name, referring to him as "fella," just to irritate him. Sorry, judgment stands: Hogan was a rude, offensive, small-minded, self-absorbed little man.
Were you in the meeting when he told the Japanese not to f it up? He actually probably had respect for Palmer knowing he was up an coming and probably had some flash of his youth fading but they played several times together and from the looks of the pictures I have seen they are just to great golfers. You are judgmental and rude Hogan is a legend.
For a time, Hogan was a peerless player from tee to green, but almost always a classless figure iin social settings, damaged in mind & body. Admirable for achievements despite weakened legs, his deplorable rudeness alas renders him a small man with feet of clay. I wish he had been otherwise, but he was not. No amount of revisonist writing can ressurect him as more than he was - a terribly flawed figure with an almost perfect golf swing.
We can agree on that. Hogan had meticulous standards that could not be met by those interested less in a club lie than the bottom line. Broke his heart. A sad outcome for a remarkable champion.
Yesl,m many other players have suffered hard ships, but none compare to Hogan. He watched his father commit suicide, put a gun to his head when he was 9, and then plunged into poverty he went to work at 12, during the depression. His childhood was NOT comparable to any of the others you quote. And I dispute the ascertain he was rude and disliked, he wasn't.
X-man: If you have read so much about Hogan as you claim, you would know that his father put the gun to his chest, not his head, before pulling the trigger. I acknowledged Hogan's trauma at witnessing his father's suicide & thus attribute it to his profound need to prove self-worth via his chosen discipline, golf. But he was terribly rude, no matter what the cause. When he sold his company to the Japanese, his parting words to the new CEO was, "don't fuck it up." A rude & graceless Texan.
i love the mans clubs . . .that swing is ridiculous for a 70 year old man to have !!! Amazing . . the guy worked his butt off and it shows, plus for a man who almost lost his legs and his life the swing is just unreal . . .
Hogan's swing was as seamless as his behavior was unseemly. A great ball-striker, he was abominable to others - an abrupt, rude, self-absorbed individual who may be admired for his skill but not for his character. Perhaps the most anal-retentive competitor in the annals of sport he was simply anal to others. A shame. He should have taken lessons in humility & humanity from fellow Texan, Byron Nelson who was a greater golfer & better human being.
We can say those things about Hogan I suppose, but I think its important to bear in mind that as an 8 year old boy, Hogan witnessed his father shoot himself in the chest in the family living room.
I don't know about you, but I can see that event easily traumatizing anybody. Couple that with the difficult, stressful and cutthroat life struggling on the PGA Tour during the Depression, I'm inclined to be somewhat sympathetic to Hogan.
LTF: I am not unfair to Hogan. I admire his great courage, grit, determination, focus, & hard-won skills. In a book I am completing, a chapter promotes his integrity as a golfer. He was one of the greatest. But he was also a very rude individual who often unfairly treated others with acute disdain. His treatment of Palmer & Player was atrocious. He admired Nicklaus but dismissed him as ignorant. He insulted Snead no end. He lacked tolerance & social grace. Fine golfer; nasty character.
Hogan didn't like Player because Player committed to playing Hogan irons and at the last minute backed out ( after receiving free clubs). Arnold was Ben's opposite and face it that some people aren't meant to get along.
Palmer has been the game's paragon of grace and civility. By contrast, Hogan was rude, period - a crass no-class little Texan with a good swing, a sour disposition, & mean petty streak that makes even Dubya look good by comparison.
In a recent biography of Hogan, it was written that he allowed the filming of this session on the condition that it never be seen by anyone other than the friend (the other guy in the video). Thank goodness that this got out and that we are all able to see how Mr. Hogan kept this beautiful swing until late in life. It's a sad part of the game that so many golfers lose their ability to putt when they get older.
A man at his age able to swing as he does...it goes to show how he has groved his swing to perfection. Outstanding. Anyone who is picking up the game... read his book! :D
Think of Tiger Woods ability to stop in the middle of a full swing when distracted......Hogan swing in slow motion is absolutely phenominal - even to the point of hitting the ball off the tee - he wished he had the natural swing of Snead but since he did not have the natural ability, he decided to take from every player he saw and worked out what worked, what did not, and hit balls until he developed a swing that was repeatable....absolutely incredible courage to make something out of little..
Definately.......Hogan made himself the best...he was not that great a golfer at the beginning and due to this slight size.....about 5' 8" and under 140 lbs he still could hit the ball as long as the big hitters like Thompson and Snead....when he wanted to....he just liked Mickey Wright and Snead's swings but he did not have the "natural" skill they did, so he created a swing that was consistant and to me beautiful, were it not for his injuries and age he would have had more Majors than Nicklaus
Norman was..IS great...his problem was the "flash speed" he had through the ball...he was someone Tiger emulated early...ergo his use of Cobra driver early in his career...(same equipment Norman used)..Tiger liked the way he slashed through impact rebounding off his back..problem is Norman's misses when under stress, (as we all get with important shots.. even Tiger) are to the right, and he hit everything hard so he would hit near the flag and spin it into trouble...otherwise 10 majors for him
I think Moe was great....although what "we" would call unconventional......he was a little out there also so although he had an consistant swing he never had the concentration abilities to be a prolific winner of tournaments.......Lee Trevino came clost to Hogan in that his swing would repeat......unlike some who swing like Hogan but still struggle at time......
You are correct except for the assertion that he would have won more majors, save for injuries & age. We all grow old. But Hogan would have fallen short of Woods & Nicklaus for one stark reason: the yips. By the late 50s, Hogan was a basket case on the greens & it only got worse. A tragedy. An immaculate ball striker but a horror with the short stick.
but WALRU11....the main reason he got the yips was because he damaged his left eye in the car crash....had this crash not happened, whilst impossible to prove....most would agree that he would have won soooo many more major titles as before the crash he was at the top of his game and after he only entered a few comps and still won loads
Your assessment is flawed. I have never read of any statement by medical experts or others that Hogan's eyesight was damaged in the bus/car collision. The fact is, he won most of his major titles AFTER the accident. I will concede on this point: his nerves frayed - beginning in the legs. He could refine the repetitive mechanics of a full swing, but standing over a putt on his weakened legs, his knees shook, he trembled, & it traveled to his entire body, developing into fatal yips. Disastrous.
Every Hogan book I have read say's he damaged the optic cord in his left eye when his face hit the dashboard during the crash....including the only authorised book by Dobson. He had problems getting his dominant eye for putting (....the left eye!) to focus......but he said that he would not put until it had focused....hence he could sometimes stand there for over 45secs. He also refused to wear glasses at tournaments - and only did a few times at Shady Oaks. If he had wore some he 'may' have ...
won alot more tournaments as he would have cut out some three putts and missed easy birdies.....it certainly wasn't the pressure that got to this man.Before the accident he was regarded as one of the best putters on tour.He won more comps after the crash because he had more of his career ahead of him - even only entering a few comps a year, before the crash even he admitted he was at his best then - after the crash he was always compensating for a weaker body
If he had wore glasses after the crash he may still have had won more than anyone....if the crash had not happened...I think it is almost certain he would have
Thanks for the input, albeit whether the eye or legs, he had his cross to bear just like anyone else. Nicklaus emerged from polio, Ed Furgol, a withered arm, Trevino was struck by lightning, & Palmer suffered accidents & illnesses during many majors in his prime. Whatever obstacles a person faces, the crucible of golf is that ultimately one has only himself & his deficiencies to surmount in order to be a champion. Hogan's greatest challenge was to overcome his sense of worthlessness via golf.
I have to think Hogan's accident was a fair bit worse than anything those golfers faced...I'm not a doctor and I don't have ALL the facts but...he almost died...his doctors thought he would never walk again...
Hogan alomost died, twice. The second time was due to blood clots after the crash while in the hospital. You can't compare anyone else's injuries to Hogan's. Good lord the guy was amazing. Did he F your wife or something?
It's a shame Hogan didn't take up Jimmy Demaret who pleaded with him to join him in the early "Legends of Golf" competitions - forerunner to the Senior (now Champions) Tour. Hogan said he couldn't play any more.
actually it wasn't that he couldnt play anymore. Hogan was arrogant and stubborn and refused to play in what would have been a seniors tour...which is part of the reason of why he was so great.
This film was shot in the spring of 1977 at the seaside Florida home of Hogan's longtime friend, George Coleman. "He agreed to be filmed on one condition -- that the film never be seen by anyone but the Colemans and their closest friends." SOURCE: p. 495 from James Dodson's excellent biography, "Ben Hogan: An American Life."
@rsbdirect Great book !! I finished it 2 months ago. I could not put it down. Two weeks ago I started the book called the match by Mark Frost. about Hogan and nelson who take on Venturi and ward because of a bet made by Eddie Lowery to George Coleman that his to amateur golfers who had not lost a match in 4 years could beat anybody any time. another great book.
Only goes to demonstrate beyond shadow of doubt, that when you acquire a true "Unified Swing" it never goes away!
"Thank You" for bringing this great footage ofvideo Mr. Hogan to the attention of everyone in golf. ...and "Thank You Mr. Hogan" for allowing this footage to be taken. ...You may be gone, but never to be forgotten, even as we become "Senior Players" of this wonderful game!
Looks like the shot at 3:40 went right. Wasn't his driver though. My guess is the shaft was not stiff for him. Just a guess. But Hogan's clubs were known for being super stiff. Even at his age he is hitting it pretty well here.
paulski5 1 year ago
To elabourate...imagine we could get to study Hogan nowadays on a Trackman...or know his thought process while playing...what makes him and his swing tick. Or get him on a 3D swing imaging machine like they have now. It is there to SEE on video yes...but to know his intent (conscious), his process to get where he did, etc. Maybe he was just super talented. Or maybe he knew a lot he didn't say. Who knows. I presume he did not just practice like he did to get in repetitions. He learned, I presume.
paulski5 1 year ago
I wonder if Hogan would be angry if he new that this tape got out for the public to see ?
Rick102667 1 year ago
@Rick102667 Don't want to be too disrespectful to you or he...but I could mostly care less! 1. It happens 2. this is one of the best golfers ever and quite possibly the most skilled ballstriker ever. We cannot have enough on him if you ask me. We shoulda known as much about him as possible before he died, if he were willing of course. I hate all the mystery and misinformation surrounding this man. What is needed is the most detail possible. The ultimate would be to get inside his head but....
paulski5 1 year ago
@paulski5 Hope that is not too much to say I could care less...honestly I do not want to be rude...but really people...we need to know as much as we can about the greats of anything if you ask me. What the hell is the point of us toiling over all the answers if it has been done already. It is redundant and inefficient. I understand there is an individual component. All I would like to see is completeness of information. Certain things deserve that. Maybe somehow there is a good reason but...
paulski5 1 year ago
WALRU.... Why do you have such a vendetta against him? You have about 30 posts on here all discussing how terrible of a person hogan was. Why the obsession?
Itwillbetriplenice 1 year ago
Plain and simple Hogan was a legend and a bad ass golfer I could care less if he was nice to the japs or palmer he was the man and he proved it.
silgneb 2 years ago 3
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plebian44 2 years ago
As a Texan I can understand and appreciate what Mr Hogan's comments to his company's buyer of his business/over achievement (in reaction to his father's suicide) meant, and it is not a matter for you
WALRU11 to blow out of proportion for the sake of u-tube notoriety. As someone who has never had to support his family by his play on a golf course I cannot begin to judge this man by manner in which he chose to
plebian44 2 years ago
"U-tube noteriety." That's a hoot! I am simply calling it as I both saw it, read it, & know it from others who knew him. Don't get me wrong. On the one hand, I have tremendous admiration & respect for Hogan the player. His single-minded determination is an unequalled testament to grit & courage & for a time he became simply the greatest. But alas, his flaws & failures as a human being in a gentleman's game that teaches character are tragic, disheartening, & at times almost inexcusable.
WALRU11 2 years ago
@WALRU11 GO F YOURSELF IGNORANT AHOLE
rea082151 1 year ago
@rea082151 "Go F yourself ignorant ahole." Small wonder such a classless mental pygmy as you turns out to be a knee-jerk worshipper of such an offensive self-absorbed small-minded misfit as Ben Hogan. FYI: Golf is the gentleman's game - & Hogan failed to uphold its noble standards despite his mastery of its technical aspects. He was, like you, rude, offensive, solipsistic, and woefully uneducated. Your response reveals you to be unworthy to play the game of golf.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 All you ever have achieved in life compared to Ben Hogan is like a fart in a tornado. Who the fuck are you to talk about a legend like Ben Hogan? You didnt even know him, never would have made it in his league. And besides, Ben Hogan educated himself, he was he even more known for his gentlemanly behaviour than anyone else. You think of yourself as classy, well then you should know that talking shit about a legend who has passed away is not classy at all.
samimalmstrom 1 year ago
@samimalmstrom Who am i? Why, I'm part of the public that financed Ben Hogan's career and thus have every right to criticize his appalling behavior to others of his trade to whom he displayed rudeness and boorish behavior. He was NOT "more known for his gentlemanly behavior thananyone else." Far from it. That distinction goes to Arnold Palmer whom Hogan treated abysmally.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 Palmer is over rated. Just a product of media, corporations, and simply political propaganda during the cold war to give the sheep of America something to believe in, just like Elvis and Marylin Monroe. Nicklaus and Hogan were true talents with true character and didnt 'get along to go along'. You either like them or not. Palmer was made everybody's darling, and therefore lacked charisma. Sounds more like u r agitated by the fact that Hogan didnt like Palmer b/c everybody else did.
samimalmstrom 1 year ago
@samimalmstrom Hogan was a rude little Texan & Nicklaus a spoiled Teutonic egoist, both of whom lacked true sportsmanship. All that mattered to them was winning & they treated their fellow pros with disdain. Palmer had it all - a better all-around game than Nicklaus (who stunk from 100 yds in, but over-powered courses from the tee & could putt fast greens). Hogan refined his swing but little else.
WALRU11 1 year ago
Fuck you WALLRU11, you pussy bitch
mad0mc0 2 years ago
Doubtless from your vulgarity and total lack of class you are indeed a Hogan fan. Enough said.
WALRU11 2 years ago
I would go and do some reseacrhc before you post these unfounded ideas you have about the man, you clearly know very little about his life, comapring his upbringing to Palmer etc, ridiculous.. And his problems on the greens were because of a detached retina from the crash (in which he saved his wifes live). He couldn't judge distance and his eye sight deteriorated further. As I say, you seem to know very few facts about him but have some very string opinions.
xXllIIIIllXx 2 years ago
I did indeed "reseacrhc," in my "comapring" his upbringing before posting my "string" opinions...tell the truth - it's you who suffers from the detached retina - or do you fat-finger the keyboard as much as your putz?
WALRU11 2 years ago
Sorry, I totally disagree that he had a sense of worthlessness, or was a rude man, you cannot know anything about the man to have that opinion. Not one person who knew Hogan well would agree. I've read every book, have every DVd etc, that opinion doesn't hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever. And Hogans hardship is ten times any of those you quote, he watched his father blow his brains out at 9 years old, and you wonder why he grew up (through the depression) a bit sharp!!
xXllIIIIllXx 2 years ago
X-man: Hogan WAS rude. When he sold his business to the Japanese his last words to the new owners were, "Don't fuck it up." Now THAT'S totally classless.
He refused to call Arnold Palmer by his name, referring to him as "fella," just to irritate him. Sorry, judgment stands: Hogan was a rude, offensive, small-minded, self-absorbed little man.
WALRU11 2 years ago
Were you in the meeting when he told the Japanese not to f it up? He actually probably had respect for Palmer knowing he was up an coming and probably had some flash of his youth fading but they played several times together and from the looks of the pictures I have seen they are just to great golfers. You are judgmental and rude Hogan is a legend.
silgneb 2 years ago
For a time, Hogan was a peerless player from tee to green, but almost always a classless figure iin social settings, damaged in mind & body. Admirable for achievements despite weakened legs, his deplorable rudeness alas renders him a small man with feet of clay. I wish he had been otherwise, but he was not. No amount of revisonist writing can ressurect him as more than he was - a terribly flawed figure with an almost perfect golf swing.
WALRU11 2 years ago
Its a shame they Fucked it up.
ej0002 1 year ago
We can agree on that. Hogan had meticulous standards that could not be met by those interested less in a club lie than the bottom line. Broke his heart. A sad outcome for a remarkable champion.
WALRU11 1 year ago
Walru
Yesl,m many other players have suffered hard ships, but none compare to Hogan. He watched his father commit suicide, put a gun to his head when he was 9, and then plunged into poverty he went to work at 12, during the depression. His childhood was NOT comparable to any of the others you quote. And I dispute the ascertain he was rude and disliked, he wasn't.
xXllIIIIllXx 2 years ago
X-man: If you have read so much about Hogan as you claim, you would know that his father put the gun to his chest, not his head, before pulling the trigger. I acknowledged Hogan's trauma at witnessing his father's suicide & thus attribute it to his profound need to prove self-worth via his chosen discipline, golf. But he was terribly rude, no matter what the cause. When he sold his company to the Japanese, his parting words to the new CEO was, "don't fuck it up." A rude & graceless Texan.
WALRU11 2 years ago
BTW WALRU11 yes I am going after you a little now. Heads up...
paulski5 2 years ago
iconic, this is what he dedicated his life to doing, and yet, a drop in the ocean, i find this video sentimental.
N00063737 2 years ago
i love the mans clubs . . .that swing is ridiculous for a 70 year old man to have !!! Amazing . . the guy worked his butt off and it shows, plus for a man who almost lost his legs and his life the swing is just unreal . . .
cbrownstead 2 years ago
Ben Hogan... The Greatest!
outofit702 2 years ago
Thanks So Much for posting this video! The Greatest Golfer Ever!
outofit702 2 years ago
Hogan's swing was as seamless as his behavior was unseemly. A great ball-striker, he was abominable to others - an abrupt, rude, self-absorbed individual who may be admired for his skill but not for his character. Perhaps the most anal-retentive competitor in the annals of sport he was simply anal to others. A shame. He should have taken lessons in humility & humanity from fellow Texan, Byron Nelson who was a greater golfer & better human being.
WALRU11 2 years ago
Did you write this exact same post on another Hogan video on this site? (the same video from a different user?) I think you may have.
paulski5 2 years ago
You should read Mark Frost's book "The Match."
We can say those things about Hogan I suppose, but I think its important to bear in mind that as an 8 year old boy, Hogan witnessed his father shoot himself in the chest in the family living room.
I don't know about you, but I can see that event easily traumatizing anybody. Couple that with the difficult, stressful and cutthroat life struggling on the PGA Tour during the Depression, I'm inclined to be somewhat sympathetic to Hogan.
LuciusTheFair 2 years ago
LTF: I am not unfair to Hogan. I admire his great courage, grit, determination, focus, & hard-won skills. In a book I am completing, a chapter promotes his integrity as a golfer. He was one of the greatest. But he was also a very rude individual who often unfairly treated others with acute disdain. His treatment of Palmer & Player was atrocious. He admired Nicklaus but dismissed him as ignorant. He insulted Snead no end. He lacked tolerance & social grace. Fine golfer; nasty character.
WALRU11 2 years ago
Hogan didn't like Player because Player committed to playing Hogan irons and at the last minute backed out ( after receiving free clubs). Arnold was Ben's opposite and face it that some people aren't meant to get along.
1979Heyjude 2 years ago
Palmer has been the game's paragon of grace and civility. By contrast, Hogan was rude, period - a crass no-class little Texan with a good swing, a sour disposition, & mean petty streak that makes even Dubya look good by comparison.
WALRU11 2 years ago
P O E T R Y
fnlost 2 years ago
Anyone 70+ that has a little interest in golf, would kill to still have that kinda swing at that age...Waow!
barath4545 2 years ago
barely can walk than swings like a monster..
lhwood777 2 years ago
In a recent biography of Hogan, it was written that he allowed the filming of this session on the condition that it never be seen by anyone other than the friend (the other guy in the video). Thank goodness that this got out and that we are all able to see how Mr. Hogan kept this beautiful swing until late in life. It's a sad part of the game that so many golfers lose their ability to putt when they get older.
brutusbuckeye1984 3 years ago
ok thank's mate i'll check that out cheer's
turshthefurf 3 years ago
A man at his age able to swing as he does...it goes to show how he has groved his swing to perfection. Outstanding. Anyone who is picking up the game... read his book! :D
pullin8 3 years ago
Hi what do you call the book you refer to i would be grateful if you could tell meas i would love to read it. thank you
turshthefurf 3 years ago
Think of Tiger Woods ability to stop in the middle of a full swing when distracted......Hogan swing in slow motion is absolutely phenominal - even to the point of hitting the ball off the tee - he wished he had the natural swing of Snead but since he did not have the natural ability, he decided to take from every player he saw and worked out what worked, what did not, and hit balls until he developed a swing that was repeatable....absolutely incredible courage to make something out of little..
prideventures 3 years ago
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lhwood777 2 years ago
Definately.......Hogan made himself the best...he was not that great a golfer at the beginning and due to this slight size.....about 5' 8" and under 140 lbs he still could hit the ball as long as the big hitters like Thompson and Snead....when he wanted to....he just liked Mickey Wright and Snead's swings but he did not have the "natural" skill they did, so he created a swing that was consistant and to me beautiful, were it not for his injuries and age he would have had more Majors than Nicklaus
prideventures 2 years ago
what do you think about norman though ..
lhwood777 2 years ago
Norman was..IS great...his problem was the "flash speed" he had through the ball...he was someone Tiger emulated early...ergo his use of Cobra driver early in his career...(same equipment Norman used)..Tiger liked the way he slashed through impact rebounding off his back..problem is Norman's misses when under stress, (as we all get with important shots.. even Tiger) are to the right, and he hit everything hard so he would hit near the flag and spin it into trouble...otherwise 10 majors for him
prideventures 2 years ago
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lhwood777 2 years ago
I think Moe was great....although what "we" would call unconventional......he was a little out there also so although he had an consistant swing he never had the concentration abilities to be a prolific winner of tournaments.......Lee Trevino came clost to Hogan in that his swing would repeat......unlike some who swing like Hogan but still struggle at time......
prideventures 2 years ago
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lhwood777 2 years ago
You are correct except for the assertion that he would have won more majors, save for injuries & age. We all grow old. But Hogan would have fallen short of Woods & Nicklaus for one stark reason: the yips. By the late 50s, Hogan was a basket case on the greens & it only got worse. A tragedy. An immaculate ball striker but a horror with the short stick.
WALRU11 2 years ago
but WALRU11....the main reason he got the yips was because he damaged his left eye in the car crash....had this crash not happened, whilst impossible to prove....most would agree that he would have won soooo many more major titles as before the crash he was at the top of his game and after he only entered a few comps and still won loads
lewisdg 2 years ago
Your assessment is flawed. I have never read of any statement by medical experts or others that Hogan's eyesight was damaged in the bus/car collision. The fact is, he won most of his major titles AFTER the accident. I will concede on this point: his nerves frayed - beginning in the legs. He could refine the repetitive mechanics of a full swing, but standing over a putt on his weakened legs, his knees shook, he trembled, & it traveled to his entire body, developing into fatal yips. Disastrous.
WALRU11 2 years ago
Every Hogan book I have read say's he damaged the optic cord in his left eye when his face hit the dashboard during the crash....including the only authorised book by Dobson. He had problems getting his dominant eye for putting (....the left eye!) to focus......but he said that he would not put until it had focused....hence he could sometimes stand there for over 45secs. He also refused to wear glasses at tournaments - and only did a few times at Shady Oaks. If he had wore some he 'may' have ...
lewisdg 2 years ago
won alot more tournaments as he would have cut out some three putts and missed easy birdies.....it certainly wasn't the pressure that got to this man.Before the accident he was regarded as one of the best putters on tour.He won more comps after the crash because he had more of his career ahead of him - even only entering a few comps a year, before the crash even he admitted he was at his best then - after the crash he was always compensating for a weaker body
lewisdg 2 years ago
If he had wore glasses after the crash he may still have had won more than anyone....if the crash had not happened...I think it is almost certain he would have
lewisdg 2 years ago
Thanks for the input, albeit whether the eye or legs, he had his cross to bear just like anyone else. Nicklaus emerged from polio, Ed Furgol, a withered arm, Trevino was struck by lightning, & Palmer suffered accidents & illnesses during many majors in his prime. Whatever obstacles a person faces, the crucible of golf is that ultimately one has only himself & his deficiencies to surmount in order to be a champion. Hogan's greatest challenge was to overcome his sense of worthlessness via golf.
WALRU11 2 years ago
I have to think Hogan's accident was a fair bit worse than anything those golfers faced...I'm not a doctor and I don't have ALL the facts but...he almost died...his doctors thought he would never walk again...
paulski5 2 years ago
Hogan alomost died, twice. The second time was due to blood clots after the crash while in the hospital. You can't compare anyone else's injuries to Hogan's. Good lord the guy was amazing. Did he F your wife or something?
1979Heyjude 2 years ago
I was speaking of Hogan's MENTAL injuries. And by the way, how could Hogan F my wife when your adulation clearly reveals you were his gay lover.
WALRU11 2 years ago
Very interesting. Thank you.
paulski5 2 years ago
great video!! however, hogan was filmed latet than that. 1980's tv commercial for hogan equipment. anyone got a copy of that?
sperrman1 3 years ago
great video! however, hogan was on film later, 1980's tv commercial for hogan clubs and balls. anyone got a copy of that?
sperrman1 3 years ago
p o e t r y
best swing in the history of the game
fnlost 3 years ago
It's a shame Hogan didn't take up Jimmy Demaret who pleaded with him to join him in the early "Legends of Golf" competitions - forerunner to the Senior (now Champions) Tour. Hogan said he couldn't play any more.
brutusbuckeye1984 3 years ago
actually it wasn't that he couldnt play anymore. Hogan was arrogant and stubborn and refused to play in what would have been a seniors tour...which is part of the reason of why he was so great.
cupon00do 3 years ago
Unbelievable!!! Thanks for the lasting impressions.
dmadras 4 years ago
This film was shot in the spring of 1977 at the seaside Florida home of Hogan's longtime friend, George Coleman. "He agreed to be filmed on one condition -- that the film never be seen by anyone but the Colemans and their closest friends." SOURCE: p. 495 from James Dodson's excellent biography, "Ben Hogan: An American Life."
rsbdirect 4 years ago 4
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There are some mistakes in that book.
sdreg 4 years ago
@rsbdirect Great book !! I finished it 2 months ago. I could not put it down. Two weeks ago I started the book called the match by Mark Frost. about Hogan and nelson who take on Venturi and ward because of a bet made by Eddie Lowery to George Coleman that his to amateur golfers who had not lost a match in 4 years could beat anybody any time. another great book.
Rick102667 1 year ago
Where is the "rest" of this movie as i recall... there is much more?
Yet its so nice to see this on here again:)
intsw142 4 years ago
Only goes to demonstrate beyond shadow of doubt, that when you acquire a true "Unified Swing" it never goes away!
"Thank You" for bringing this great footage ofvideo Mr. Hogan to the attention of everyone in golf. ...and "Thank You Mr. Hogan" for allowing this footage to be taken. ...You may be gone, but never to be forgotten, even as we become "Senior Players" of this wonderful game!
DrDomGolf 4 years ago
What year was this shot?
cementlover 4 years ago
wow, great video..reminds me of my wife taking video in my backyard...similar swing..RIIIGHT!!!!!!!
teeithigh 4 years ago
he was getting ready for a comeback on tour probably would have won as well
benhoganfan 4 years ago
Interesting thought about Hogan planning a comeback on tour. Do you have any more information on that subject?
raiders1967 4 years ago
amazing... thanks ben.
raindog98546 4 years ago
Yep, that slo-mo is just incredible. The guy was ill and had stopepd playing, afaik this is the last known vid of him hitting a ball
Supermariodave 4 years ago
the holy grail
benhoganfan 4 years ago