JESUS said ..., "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die....." John 11:25-26
Very POWERFUL .+. No man has ever said anything like this.
“But even if we (or an angel from heaven) should preach a Gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be condemned to hell!” (Galatians 1:8).
Mohammad did not preach the same message of Christ. Mohammad was a false prophet! ;-)
one ----- is that i agree with several of my Christian brothers that it is good to shabir ally debating atheists, and i think he should do more, and prehaps both for instance that we both can do more on this level in united way
two ----- it do think more interfaith type dialogs are needed for several principal reason a, to understand the oppositions faiths more in there own prespectives and not to just believe false ideals, b ---- to share the faith with others
Well Shabir has B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis. if ur son want to do biblical studies he can do it at any university , he can study theology , regarding the quranic studies i'd recommend send him to islamic school , and if he knows arabic or he wants to learn send him to al azhar in cairo or in madina u
@aldomovielovers if you want that for your son you need to ask Allah when your in kneeling position in prayers and Allah will provide him with the right knowledge ;)
I would also like for the hate comments to be removed; im right you're wrong comments. too much ignorance. if one is sincere post sincere comments. not you're wrong im right. thats not what any religion is about. if all of us as people of religion keep this up, we'll have the atheists coming saying religion is bad. please the haha comments are not needed.
I think it would do us good instead of fighting to come to a common word to worship God alone, the God of Muhammad and the God of Jesus(pbuh). I love them both. Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) hoped for Romans to beat persians even though romans were christians. The people of the book; christians and jews are respected and if we can not come on common grounds then atleast we can focus our energies to those who are opposed to God in general.
I am a Muslim.i worship Allah alone and believe Muhammad(pbuh) is the last messenger. i also believe Jesus(pbuh) is a messenger. Prophet Muhammad and Prophet jesus and all the prophets were brothers.
@Allahsarmy I know its kinda late but here it is: the new accounts on utube allow the uploading of only 10 minutes ,so any video bigger than that is cuz its from an old account
Christianity is the most confusing religeon in the world. It is just so full of nonsense... satan got them all in a good headlock, cant you see how they are toying with the strict boundaries of monotheism?! Satan is smart, he is not going to tell you "WORSHIP A MONKEY!" He gets you like this... saying god is 1 but actually 3? that doesnt even make sense. Christians why dont we become friends and come to common terms to worship the ONE true God which we are both ordered to do?death is very near!!
Muslim = proofs all the science 14 000 yrs ago....
jewish = speaks closer to the lord
christianity = the new prophecy
you know what? we all have the same god and thnx to muslims, our god is real. all the science we know today was actually proven 14000 yrs ago in the old bible.
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its unfortunate that people still hold on to the ancient's dead's superstitions in light of all evidence to the contray of their beliefs.
for example in the koran we are told the sun sets is a muddy pool...people still believe this in some peasant countries whilst the pseudo scholars make up excuses that its a metaphor-a bad one at that. clearly is all just bad fairy tales and can get dangerous with all suicide bombers rampant.using your analogy about fairy tales, people won't grow up.
That verse your talking about is just a mistranslation. If you want to know more I made a video on my channel about this.
You cannot deny the fact that in the Quran there are many scientific facts mentioned long before man had the capability of discovering them. For example there is mention of the brownian motion in the Quran, without a microscope this could not be discovered.
@IslamAyaat HAHAHAHAHA. Oh wow, that is hilarious. You realize that I can read any fairy tale and come up with some lame metaphors right? The Quran does not have single mathematical equation and nothing that wasn't known at the time.
@321lawc CAn you actually try to make a meaningful rebuttal rather than pretending to laugh your head off. If you want to know about the speed of light in 32|:5 I can direct you to a few websites that explain it logically. We get the speed of light to the 7th digit. 299792.5 km/s. This is the speed of the cosmic affair that verse 32:5 is talking about.
@IslamAyaat Again, your ignorance and brainwashing is stupendous. Look. I can read any book of fiction seem like it has physics in it by making up vague metaphors and playing with numbers. I bet you that if you try hard enough you can say that Santa Claus is a metaphor for cosmology. It is just people's imagination it's not proof of anything.
@321lawc It's simple the verse clearly gives us enough information to enable us to calculate the speed of the cosmic Affair which is the same as the speed of light. QUran 19:64 says that angels carry this affair. The prophet Muhammad is reported to have said Angels are made out of light, is this playing with numbers???????? WHy this marvellous correspondance? Can you show me a book which does something remotely similar to this?
Nope, we are told that what appeared to Zulqarnain. It appeared that the sun set in murky water. Not that it actually sets in murky water.
And if you wanna go at the sun setting, we all know it doesn't, but everyday you read in newspapers at what time the sun sets.
Does that mean all newspapers are wrong. NO, it's a manner of speech, so grow up man, and think a little about what you just said. You can't prove the qur'an wrong no matter how hard you try. I lay my life on that affirmation.
X sinned against Y by eating an apple, now only way Y can forgive X is if X kills Y's only begotten son. And all the children of X who will not believe that Y was killed by X for the crime of eating of the apple, will burn in hell for eternity ?
Do you know how retarded that sounds... so dude Islam is the only way...
I agree... Muslims and Cristians should focus more on Atheism other than debating with one another as we both have more in common than athiests i esp see the debate of Zakir Naik and willian campbel whom the atheists have used arguements of both sides to support their point of view
Even though I am Christian, I respect Shabir, and he is the best Muslim apologist in the world at present. I would also, like to see him debate more atheists, such as Carrier, or Jeffery Jay Lowder.
@babystinky this is one awesome debate with DR. Williiam craig vs shabir and as muslim i also respect DR. William craig but i think Shabir wins the debate since he answered everything clearly against Craig.
@babystinky I agree.I was also telling people,that although i am a christian,i have 100% respect and admiration for Dr.Ally,for his sportsmanship,and intellectual integrity.He's just a complete gentleman,even having a sense of humour.
Assalamu Alaikum to all my brothers and sisters and especially to you brother NAZAM44. Is there anyway the sound can be made better? If you can, please let me know. Where can i download/buy this video? Thank you.
Thats How It Came in Dvd i am sorry i cant do anything about it i tried to edit the sound but it didnt worked the only way is that if some knows how to fix it it not because of compression
I believe Shabir Ally fails in the first few minutes because doesn't relize to mention the Quran. The god can defend himself, and it's for one to use the quran to smash the heads of those who disagree with it.
Interesting debate. I noticed Shabir gave the Origin of the universe argument, the Fine-tuning argument and the moral argument and experience for God's existence. These are exactly the same as Dr. William Lane Craig's arguments when he debates Atheists. It would be cool to see Shabir Ally and William Lane Craig team up and have a 4 man debate just like the Barker-Carrier and Rajabali-Corey debate. You would have the world's greatest Muslim and Christian apologist together. It would be a knockout
Awesome!! Thx for uploading. Glad to see Shabir Ally taking part in Atheist Theist debates then just Muslim-Christian ones. I think Muslims and Christians would do well to focus our attention more on Atheism in debating Atheists instead of most of the time debating each other.
When there's interfaith diologue, sometimes there's a tendency to be a bit hot headed like the answering Islam team and some muslims like osama abdullah.
We need to eliminate the biggest threat - Atheism. It's growing a lot amongst both christians and muslims.
True.. the Muslim-Christian debate is going on for hundreds of years now probably, but it's the atheists that are becoming major players in the world today. They are against Islam and against Christianity. Maybe Islam and Christianity have their isues, but at least we believe in God and in that, we should stand together I think.. peace
@XaeeD i agree with ur statement, but i think we need to carry on interfaith dialogs too, to clarify our position of faith for what they really are, rather than believing in false conceps of other faiths
I wish Shabir Ally would square of with Nabeel Qureshi; who boasts Zakir Naik fears debating him. Masha Allah, hope that day will come.
AntiGeekInc 2 months ago
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JESUS said ..., "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die....." John 11:25-26
Very POWERFUL .+. No man has ever said anything like this.
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PROOF QURAN IS NOT FROM GOD
“But even if we (or an angel from heaven) should preach a Gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be condemned to hell!” (Galatians 1:8).
Mohammad did not preach the same message of Christ. Mohammad was a false prophet! ;-)
quran137 10 months ago
i have two comments
one ----- is that i agree with several of my Christian brothers that it is good to shabir ally debating atheists, and i think he should do more, and prehaps both for instance that we both can do more on this level in united way
two ----- it do think more interfaith type dialogs are needed for several principal reason a, to understand the oppositions faiths more in there own prespectives and not to just believe false ideals, b ---- to share the faith with others
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984
another thing i do admit is shabir is one of the best islamic thinkers today, but still has a lot of misunderstanding of the Christian faith
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
im a christian and I can say that I like watching shabir and his debates
joshj15 1 year ago 7
if my son want to be apologetic just like shabir ally .... where should he go to scholl ?? (just asking ) thanks brother
aldomovielovers 1 year ago
Well Shabir has B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis. if ur son want to do biblical studies he can do it at any university , he can study theology , regarding the quranic studies i'd recommend send him to islamic school , and if he knows arabic or he wants to learn send him to al azhar in cairo or in madina u
Adam2Muhamad 1 year ago
@aldomovielovers if you want that for your son you need to ask Allah when your in kneeling position in prayers and Allah will provide him with the right knowledge ;)
MrTheYoussef 10 months ago
I would also like for the hate comments to be removed; im right you're wrong comments. too much ignorance. if one is sincere post sincere comments. not you're wrong im right. thats not what any religion is about. if all of us as people of religion keep this up, we'll have the atheists coming saying religion is bad. please the haha comments are not needed.
MyIslamDeen 1 year ago
I think it would do us good instead of fighting to come to a common word to worship God alone, the God of Muhammad and the God of Jesus(pbuh). I love them both. Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) hoped for Romans to beat persians even though romans were christians. The people of the book; christians and jews are respected and if we can not come on common grounds then atleast we can focus our energies to those who are opposed to God in general.
MyIslamDeen 1 year ago
I am a Muslim.i worship Allah alone and believe Muhammad(pbuh) is the last messenger. i also believe Jesus(pbuh) is a messenger. Prophet Muhammad and Prophet jesus and all the prophets were brothers.
MyIslamDeen 1 year ago
Salam.
MyIslamDeen 1 year ago
islam is wrong, Jesus is GOD!
Steelcoremasher 1 year ago
@Steelcoremasher Nope jesus said God our father is one and besides jesus never claimed that he is God you have been indoctrinated son
MrTheYoussef 10 months ago
can some one explain to me why some videos are in parts and some are 3 hour long ?
Allahsarmy 2 years ago
@Allahsarmy I know its kinda late but here it is: the new accounts on utube allow the uploading of only 10 minutes ,so any video bigger than that is cuz its from an old account
HIMAZZZ1991 1 year ago
Christianity is the most confusing religeon in the world. It is just so full of nonsense... satan got them all in a good headlock, cant you see how they are toying with the strict boundaries of monotheism?! Satan is smart, he is not going to tell you "WORSHIP A MONKEY!" He gets you like this... saying god is 1 but actually 3? that doesnt even make sense. Christians why dont we become friends and come to common terms to worship the ONE true God which we are both ordered to do?death is very near!!
shababfilisteen 2 years ago
good
sahammed77442 2 years ago
Hmm... Judging by the names I wonder who is the atheist? The docotr obviously, lol.
godlessKnowledge 2 years ago
Doctorate Degrees actually originated in the medieval Islamic Empire, so I don't see what exactly you are trying to get at there?
Dallah1990 2 years ago
the audio in this is terrible anybody have anything better
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cumsh00ter 2 years ago 5
Muslim = proofs all the science 14 000 yrs ago....
jewish = speaks closer to the lord
christianity = the new prophecy
you know what? we all have the same god and thnx to muslims, our god is real. all the science we know today was actually proven 14000 yrs ago in the old bible.
juliusyeung0330 2 years ago
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I totaly argee!=]
nokkiecookie90 2 years ago
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spectralmusic 2 years ago
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indeed.
its unfortunate that people still hold on to the ancient's dead's superstitions in light of all evidence to the contray of their beliefs.
for example in the koran we are told the sun sets is a muddy pool...people still believe this in some peasant countries whilst the pseudo scholars make up excuses that its a metaphor-a bad one at that. clearly is all just bad fairy tales and can get dangerous with all suicide bombers rampant.using your analogy about fairy tales, people won't grow up.
vtshuz100 2 years ago
u have no idea wut ur talking about show me witch sura says that in the quar'an
rexloc 2 years ago
That verse your talking about is just a mistranslation. If you want to know more I made a video on my channel about this.
You cannot deny the fact that in the Quran there are many scientific facts mentioned long before man had the capability of discovering them. For example there is mention of the brownian motion in the Quran, without a microscope this could not be discovered.
IslamAyaat 2 years ago
@IslamAyaat There is no science in the quran. That is complete bullshit
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc You obviously have not read the quran, there are many scientific statements, for example:
1) Expansion of the universe 51:47
2) Brownian Motion 22:5
3) Speed of light 32:5
4) Pulsar stars 86:1-3
5) Internal waves in the ocean
6) Black holes mentioned precisly by their name.
and many more......
IslamAyaat 1 year ago
@IslamAyaat HAHAHAHAHA. Oh wow, that is hilarious. You realize that I can read any fairy tale and come up with some lame metaphors right? The Quran does not have single mathematical equation and nothing that wasn't known at the time.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc CAn you actually try to make a meaningful rebuttal rather than pretending to laugh your head off. If you want to know about the speed of light in 32|:5 I can direct you to a few websites that explain it logically. We get the speed of light to the 7th digit. 299792.5 km/s. This is the speed of the cosmic affair that verse 32:5 is talking about.
IslamAyaat 1 year ago
@IslamAyaat Again, your ignorance and brainwashing is stupendous. Look. I can read any book of fiction seem like it has physics in it by making up vague metaphors and playing with numbers. I bet you that if you try hard enough you can say that Santa Claus is a metaphor for cosmology. It is just people's imagination it's not proof of anything.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc It's simple the verse clearly gives us enough information to enable us to calculate the speed of the cosmic Affair which is the same as the speed of light. QUran 19:64 says that angels carry this affair. The prophet Muhammad is reported to have said Angels are made out of light, is this playing with numbers???????? WHy this marvellous correspondance? Can you show me a book which does something remotely similar to this?
IslamAyaat 1 year ago
Nope, we are told that what appeared to Zulqarnain. It appeared that the sun set in murky water. Not that it actually sets in murky water.
And if you wanna go at the sun setting, we all know it doesn't, but everyday you read in newspapers at what time the sun sets.
Does that mean all newspapers are wrong. NO, it's a manner of speech, so grow up man, and think a little about what you just said. You can't prove the qur'an wrong no matter how hard you try. I lay my life on that affirmation.
PBUY
Jessewb 2 years ago
No one else has been sent to be the "Lamb" for us
the problem here is our spiritual death... the LACK of life (what was lost in Adam) , and how
to obtain LIFE again."the wages of sin is death" (but the GIFT of God is eternal LIFE thru
Jesus Christ)
hotwheeler000 3 years ago
They are SO confused as to what a true faith in Christ is all about.
It's about recieving LIFE. what was lost in Adam, is available in the Second Adam (Jesus).
God has punished sin in the flesh.
The offence = SIN
The requirement = DEATH
The provision = JESUS the lamb of God
The new covenant = salvation by FAITH in Him.Not by works.
The reward= ETERNAL LIFE
hotwheeler000 3 years ago
You mean :
X sinned against Y by eating an apple, now only way Y can forgive X is if X kills Y's only begotten son. And all the children of X who will not believe that Y was killed by X for the crime of eating of the apple, will burn in hell for eternity ?
Do you know how retarded that sounds... so dude Islam is the only way...
mansorhallaj 2 years ago 4
where in the Bible, does it say Jesus is the 2nd Adam ??
vaea46 2 years ago
How about just believe in one God like God ordered you to and stop creating new polytheistic mubo jumbo in your religeon.
shababfilisteen 2 years ago
@shababfilisteen All religions are mumbo jumbo
321lawc 1 year ago
I agree... Muslims and Cristians should focus more on Atheism other than debating with one another as we both have more in common than athiests i esp see the debate of Zakir Naik and willian campbel whom the atheists have used arguements of both sides to support their point of view
mrsultan001 3 years ago 6
I wonder if Shabir ever considered an approach similar to a presuppositional-style Transcendental Argument like Greg Bahnsen's...
Yes, he was a Christian, but an Islamic worldview could pull that off against an atheist.
Rhology 3 years ago
3 hours!?
faro0485 3 years ago 3
Any see Dave Hunt vs Shabir Ally?
dspreston74 3 years ago
Even though I am Christian, I respect Shabir, and he is the best Muslim apologist in the world at present. I would also, like to see him debate more atheists, such as Carrier, or Jeffery Jay Lowder.
babystinky 3 years ago 42
Feel free to watch my other debates of Shabir Ally, including with Dr Peter Atkins, and comment. I have forward your comments to Ally.
Nazam44 3 years ago 6
LOL he says limited time!!
faro0485 3 years ago
Dear christian friend i hope this message finds you in a state of peace. I wish to invite you to Islam.
ALAMINUK 3 years ago
@babystinky this is one awesome debate with DR. Williiam craig vs shabir and as muslim i also respect DR. William craig but i think Shabir wins the debate since he answered everything clearly against Craig.
Must watch
/watch?v=tnyMie0VKuI&feature=autoshare
cyrax752 10 months ago
@babystinky
True. I think actually Muslims and Christians should unite in debating atheists. Atheism is far more prevalant than every before.
daneshjoo2011 9 months ago
@babystinky I agree.I was also telling people,that although i am a christian,i have 100% respect and admiration for Dr.Ally,for his sportsmanship,and intellectual integrity.He's just a complete gentleman,even having a sense of humour.
MsOluwatoyin 1 month ago
Assalamu Alaikum to all my brothers and sisters and especially to you brother NAZAM44. Is there anyway the sound can be made better? If you can, please let me know. Where can i download/buy this video? Thank you.
ALAMINUK 3 years ago
Wa Alaikum Assalam!
Thats How It Came in Dvd i am sorry i cant do anything about it i tried to edit the sound but it didnt worked the only way is that if some knows how to fix it it not because of compression
you can download it by using "Real Player 11"
JazakAllah Khair
Nazam44 3 years ago
I believe Shabir Ally fails in the first few minutes because doesn't relize to mention the Quran. The god can defend himself, and it's for one to use the quran to smash the heads of those who disagree with it.
faro0485 3 years ago 2
Bro nazam the sound is pretty bad, could you fix it?, pls
ArabianLover81 3 years ago
I see what I can do.
Nazam44 3 years ago
Interesting debate. I noticed Shabir gave the Origin of the universe argument, the Fine-tuning argument and the moral argument and experience for God's existence. These are exactly the same as Dr. William Lane Craig's arguments when he debates Atheists. It would be cool to see Shabir Ally and William Lane Craig team up and have a 4 man debate just like the Barker-Carrier and Rajabali-Corey debate. You would have the world's greatest Muslim and Christian apologist together. It would be a knockout
Christianjr4 3 years ago 7
Ahmed Deedat was the greatest
ooklepookle 3 years ago 6
Awesome!! Thx for uploading. Glad to see Shabir Ally taking part in Atheist Theist debates then just Muslim-Christian ones. I think Muslims and Christians would do well to focus our attention more on Atheism in debating Atheists instead of most of the time debating each other.
Christianjr4 3 years ago 28
Dear friend, I wish to invite you to the house of Islam.
ALAMINUK 3 years ago 2
@Christianjr4 Agreed.
When there's interfaith diologue, sometimes there's a tendency to be a bit hot headed like the answering Islam team and some muslims like osama abdullah.
We need to eliminate the biggest threat - Atheism. It's growing a lot amongst both christians and muslims.
oombuddah 1 year ago
@oombuddah Osama is improving a lot though.
oombuddah 1 year ago
@Christianjr4 good point
Ahrs32 1 year ago
True.. the Muslim-Christian debate is going on for hundreds of years now probably, but it's the atheists that are becoming major players in the world today. They are against Islam and against Christianity. Maybe Islam and Christianity have their isues, but at least we believe in God and in that, we should stand together I think.. peace
XaeeD 1 year ago 4
@XaeeD i agree with ur statement, but i think we need to carry on interfaith dialogs too, to clarify our position of faith for what they really are, rather than believing in false conceps of other faiths
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago