or a comeback is when the other player is expected to win because they are ahead but then you pull off the win by picking it up at the end. btw, m2k was down a full stock at one point of this game.
Marth is not cheap. He has simply mastered Marth's abilities. Marth excecutes fast attacks which is how he is meant to be used. Fox takes quite a bit of work to use his speed. People like to use his Refelctor + Wavedashes or Jump Cancel to rack up damage. Quite simply it's this, Marth does not usually take such speed of the fingers while Fox takes a load of it. It's easier to control Marth than it is Fox. I will admit, I main Fox but can't fully control the speed needed for him all the time.
As a Marth/Yoshi player, I can say that Marth requires precision to use at a high level as well. You have to know how to space yourself moreso than other characters(imo) and if you're going to use a tipper hit or not.
It's not a shame that he turtles, it's utilizing Marth's advantage with defense to play.
And the funnier thing is all of the comments are by people that think they're better than one or both of these players, but have no proof that they can even play SSB:M, let alone play well.
bunch of noobs. fox can easily throw up to up kicks to anyone in the damn game. it fukin hard to to da same ko ability w/ marth. m2k is lucky flt doesnt try chain grabbing as much. ken>massashi. nuff said
God, I absolutely despise Marth. Skill vs. Skill Mew2King should've walked all over this guy. Instead, he barely beats him. FLT is good, but...ugh, I hate Marth.
Probably the thing that ticks me off most is how easy it is for Marth to edge-guard most top-tier characters. You'd have to use someone with an unpredictable recovery like Jiggly (who gets thrashed by Marth anyway), Peach, or Pikachu/Pichu. Anyone else he can just FSmash you to death.
funny that mew2king himself doesn't agree with your assertion. mew2king thinks he's better than flt of course, but not to the extent of "i'm going to annhialate this guy." m2k even said that based on him vs flt's extensive friendlies played, he can safely say that these tournament matches are a horrible indicator of what they can do.
I could not agree more dude. I despise Marth more than anyone in the game aswell. His edge gaurding is unbelievably unfair and cheap. He's just plain nothing but pure cheapness.
FastLikeTree is an amazing player, but I just hate Marth...he just doesn't take too much technical work to kill. If he gets you over the edge, it's curtains from there if he is a smart edgeguard.
It's not so much a matter of technique with the pro players because it should be the first thing you should practice anyways. Good technique can be achieved in a relatively short time if you work hard enough. It's the experience and mindgames that really contribute to the win.
I believe technique is needed to employ mindgames to their fullest. Afterall, without waveshining, what is fox? How about multiple SHFFL to a shines in sequence? Those techniques aren't exactly easy, and without them, a fox player is greatly hindered. But yes, technique is useless if you can't connect, which takes a good mindgame against an experienced turtling Marth
Marth's sword can potentially protect his whole body if he stays in one spot, so he is like a turtle. He could attack in a large range very quickly using utilt, ftilt, or fsmash
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lol dude you're right, that's why you often see scared little bitch ass Marths sit in one space when they're scared, and constantly tilt in every direction. Plain cheap.
Fox is a twitch character in my opinion. Everything he does is instantanious. Marth has more of a flow. He's kindof like Shiek with blue hair and a sword.
omg, uthrow - uair with fox is so broken xO . [joking?] but seriously, people complain about chainthrow with marth??? just look at that. friggin killer. he played awesome.
I can't believe how much mew2king has improved since this video was recorded
mylee197 3 years ago 2
laggy video was laggy
Cornzix 3 years ago
Youtube can't handle how awesome they are.
ConveX91 2 years ago 4
nice comeback by jason the king of mewtwos.
Sveet 3 years ago
lol what? this is not even a "comeback" fight
pablomar 3 years ago 2
i dunno what game you watched, but m2k was behind the whole game.
Sveet 3 years ago 3
"comebacks" are when a player is behind by STOCKS and manages to win.
pablomar 3 years ago
or a comeback is when the other player is expected to win because they are ahead but then you pull off the win by picking it up at the end. btw, m2k was down a full stock at one point of this game.
Sveet 3 years ago 2
people give thumbs down like fickle little girls, why was any of this stuff given a thumbs down. this is so passive compared to most youtube scuffles
Vyse0wnz 3 years ago 4
lol i know. I gave those ppl +1. Also you get +1 for this comment.
byakuya32 3 years ago
Wes is the best!
MegaBeanz 3 years ago
Wes is the best!
fattristan149 3 years ago
oooh , good match
kelvin989 4 years ago
marth = mid-air combat king
kkslida 4 years ago
Ken>Masashi Some (most but not all) games
Fox>Marth Overall
JumpityJosh 4 years ago
i do like fastliketree's style in ssbm, his style is revolutionary
SmashVelox 4 years ago
i dont like fastliketree's style in ssbm, his style is wierd
JoshuaMari 4 years ago
Marth is not cheap. He has simply mastered Marth's abilities. Marth excecutes fast attacks which is how he is meant to be used. Fox takes quite a bit of work to use his speed. People like to use his Refelctor + Wavedashes or Jump Cancel to rack up damage. Quite simply it's this, Marth does not usually take such speed of the fingers while Fox takes a load of it. It's easier to control Marth than it is Fox. I will admit, I main Fox but can't fully control the speed needed for him all the time.
Dman619619 4 years ago 2
As a Marth/Yoshi player, I can say that Marth requires precision to use at a high level as well. You have to know how to space yourself moreso than other characters(imo) and if you're going to use a tipper hit or not.
Eltrotraw 4 years ago 2
Marth/Roy are made to be powerful yet defensive.
It's not a shame that he turtles, it's utilizing Marth's advantage with defense to play.
And the funnier thing is all of the comments are by people that think they're better than one or both of these players, but have no proof that they can even play SSB:M, let alone play well.
XexxRott 4 years ago
Marth's up tilt...it's just...
SUNG475 4 years ago
Fox's uair... it's just... about the same
xiaonomercy1 4 years ago
bunch of noobs. fox can easily throw up to up kicks to anyone in the damn game. it fukin hard to to da same ko ability w/ marth. m2k is lucky flt doesnt try chain grabbing as much. ken>massashi. nuff said
SmashBrawly 4 years ago
Scrub comments. They are fun.
jnguyen06 4 years ago 6
God, I absolutely despise Marth. Skill vs. Skill Mew2King should've walked all over this guy. Instead, he barely beats him. FLT is good, but...ugh, I hate Marth.
Probably the thing that ticks me off most is how easy it is for Marth to edge-guard most top-tier characters. You'd have to use someone with an unpredictable recovery like Jiggly (who gets thrashed by Marth anyway), Peach, or Pikachu/Pichu. Anyone else he can just FSmash you to death.
BurtonCharger247 4 years ago
funny that mew2king himself doesn't agree with your assertion. mew2king thinks he's better than flt of course, but not to the extent of "i'm going to annhialate this guy." m2k even said that based on him vs flt's extensive friendlies played, he can safely say that these tournament matches are a horrible indicator of what they can do.
ab22380 4 years ago
I could not agree more dude. I despise Marth more than anyone in the game aswell. His edge gaurding is unbelievably unfair and cheap. He's just plain nothing but pure cheapness.
Justerbuster89 4 years ago
Turtling Marth?? LMFAO, plz GTFO.
AsianFlavaFlav 4 years ago
FastLikeTree is an amazing player, but I just hate Marth...he just doesn't take too much technical work to kill. If he gets you over the edge, it's curtains from there if he is a smart edgeguard.
cluelessbtd 4 years ago
Yeah, it's not that easy against fox, I'm sorry. You try playing mew2king's fox with marth see how well you do.
j0shumz 4 years ago
That's not my point. Fox has to do a lot of technical work to be good. Marth doesn't, relatively, that is.
cluelessbtd 4 years ago 2
It's not so much a matter of technique with the pro players because it should be the first thing you should practice anyways. Good technique can be achieved in a relatively short time if you work hard enough. It's the experience and mindgames that really contribute to the win.
j0shumz 4 years ago 2
I believe technique is needed to employ mindgames to their fullest. Afterall, without waveshining, what is fox? How about multiple SHFFL to a shines in sequence? Those techniques aren't exactly easy, and without them, a fox player is greatly hindered. But yes, technique is useless if you can't connect, which takes a good mindgame against an experienced turtling Marth
cluelessbtd 4 years ago
What's a turtling Marth?
fourpiecesoffriedspa 4 years ago
Marth's sword can potentially protect his whole body if he stays in one spot, so he is like a turtle. He could attack in a large range very quickly using utilt, ftilt, or fsmash
cluelessbtd 4 years ago
Thanks for your reply.
fourpiecesoffriedspa 4 years ago
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lol dude you're right, that's why you often see scared little bitch ass Marths sit in one space when they're scared, and constantly tilt in every direction. Plain cheap.
Justerbuster89 4 years ago
QFT.
Justerbuster89 4 years ago
Fox is a twitch character in my opinion. Everything he does is instantanious. Marth has more of a flow. He's kindof like Shiek with blue hair and a sword.
CervPurp63 4 years ago
and a penis
kragemonkey 3 years ago
altho a minitaure one
Hornilope 3 years ago
FLT's name is Wes.
whatwhatwhatwhatwhat 4 years ago
wes? i dont see his name
danime2355 4 years ago
Hmm, al least Wes gave one hell of a fight
MelodicDaath 5 years ago
Hey, I posted here a long time ago with my old Username...lolz
BulkyVendor 5 years ago
super close match!
SandWraithEx3 5 years ago
I couldn't even tell if those U-throws by Fox were DIed. O_0
IndigoR 5 years ago
omg, uthrow - uair with fox is so broken xO . [joking?] but seriously, people complain about chainthrow with marth??? just look at that. friggin killer. he played awesome.
manLiMarth 5 years ago
I was rooting for "Wes" also.
XLuminaire 5 years ago
damn that was close.
scntillatedseed 5 years ago
Wes?
emcp7 5 years ago
that's fastliketree's real name.
Njzfinest 5 years ago
So close, so close.
I wanted Wes to win.
uglywombat2004 5 years ago