@joebonsaipoland Whats really messed up is when I got locked up in Wisconsin Upon relase I was handed a 6000 dollar bill for services rendered Food , housing , healthcare and wages
I know I have no money for myself to take care of my health.,lettalone get a fucking job because nobody will give me one. But I also know that I have a S&W 5906 9mm that I have been cleaning.
@kubush This bill is horrible! Health care needed reform but this will cause so much harm. I am forced to change the coverage of my employees. The taxes on my business will increase, my girlfriends income can now be directly controlled by the government.. It also limits her freedom to own a hospital or portions there of. Some of the bill has little or nothing to do with healthcare and much more to do with giving the federal government more powers. I don't see ANYTHING good about this!!!!
@trevticks If you own a small business then you actually get a tax break and subsidies for your employees insurance. This bill does a lot of good. I think you just got fed a ton of misinformation.
@kubush I did get fed a ton of misinformation, so I decided to read the bill. The people that work in this country will have to pay for this HUGE program. According to the wording of the bill, my CPA and all of my business professors, my business will not receive any tax breaks. What good will this bill do? It takes more money out of my pocket and gives the government more power over the people? Fun fact: I currently have no medical or dental insurance and I'm still against this bill.
@kubush How am I a liability? I pay for all the health care that I receive. I don't want and don't accept any handouts! I have saved thousands to cover my future health costs, no one pays for me! I live within my means so that I can cover all of my obligations. I think you agree with me about not wanting to pay for the care of others.
you people in government need to do your jobs that you were elected for..you do not do your job and the american people are disgusted..you have your health and salaries with perks..keep on with the lobbyists and corporations because their your perks..but never forget the american people and we will win and on our backs and you will be voted out.,
Ladies in gentlemen, we are witnessing the death of our once great republic. Fret not, however, for we shall witness convulsions the likes of which this continent has not seen. I will suffer a patriot's death and my blood shall stain this land, but by the Almighty God, I will spill the blood of tyrants along with my own.
This is a declaration of war. I will not pay. I will fight. I will kill. I will die.
Don't you see that this is what they are trying to provoke? A war. Order out of chaos? They best thing to do is to make our state govt face them. Write to them, call them, the state govt don't want this anyways. It is in the hands of the individual states. We can do this. Don't fall for the trap where they want you too shoot first.
@dkrustyklown Im not even old enough for this piece of shit to apply to me, they will get me to buy health care over my, and many other people's, dead bodies
This is nothing to be worried about folks. This was entirely expected. It was also predictable that Nancy and Friends would behave as though it were a done deal; that's what they do - then they hope it becomes self-fulfilling prophecy. The behavior is Smoke and mirrors. In this fight against this monster bill - this is merely the end of the beginning, not the beginning of the end. A lot more ahead.
"The House bill is dead on arrival in the Senate," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on CBS' "Face the Nation," noting that 39 Democrats "bailed out" on the bill Saturday night. "It was a bill written by liberals for liberals. ... So the House bill is a non-starter in the Senate."
if i had effort to calm down some fearing/panicking relatives about death panels and if it was repeated over and over on several channels in a more or less serious/believable way, and had to keep up with hours of this stuff and calming down ppl over again ,
then YOU tell me there are no death panels, I MEAN WHO IS THE FUCK GONNA PAY FOR THIS DAMN SHIT,
Are you mentally handicapped? There aren't any death panels check the bill... The entire country is going to pay for it. The benefits outweigh the consequences (higher taxes).
so the government is forcing business to pay for employee's insurance. If not, they get penalized. If they do, they get a tax credit? They still have to pay for the insurance, so it doesn't make BUSINESS SENSE. The credit is for small employers employing people who make <$25k. They are VIP's and must be saved.
Did they mention to you that premiums will be increasing? Have you taken ECON 101 yet?
@yahlers Wow, fuck you too then. I had to google it for you because apparently you couldn't do it yourself. And when I post the exact name of the part of the bill that you are asking about, you reply with sarcasm. Dick.
if someone tells me there are going to be death panels, which you say isn`t true at all,then why did i get it repeated over and for over half a year length of time?and all it costs those who claimed so,is their own time,and nothing more! if it wasn`t true in the first place and they also probably knew better,but they claim it anyway, so they lie and all it costs them is a smile,and they are not even sorry? and you, you "defend" the bill on/for that reason in your freetime!? did i attack at all?
you dunno what went on while i was telling folks, what was going on
in usayans healthcare debate...here in anygerm.., so in regards of the standing and the career of those who claimed deathpanels to be true i thought i`d rather jump on their waggon instead of being send to a psychiatry...it is not logic here but the safe route...
rather be a deathpanelist in the usa politics than someone who recaps it in foreign land...
Please tell me what benefits this has for the citizens of this country! More people on the same or less doctors and staff, and medical technology companies getting out of the business because they can't get paid what they need to for their products...how is any of that a BENEFIT?
Before launching into a defense, remember that when obstetricians in rural Oregon were put on medicaid price controls, THEY LEFT. Access to care was LOST. But we all paid more.
Yeah, the polls show that 70% of the ppl that have an opinion on the bill dont even know whats in it. So, Im not suprised why ppl think there are going to be death panels. Its bullshit propaganda and the right is swallowing it.
After listening to Pelosi and the rest of the socialist talk I thought about putting on a big pair of wadders so I could walk through ALL of the bullshit coming out of their mouths..
Apparently the tea party's did not send a strong enough message to the DemoCrap Shit for Brains Party. We'll have to work on getting our message through, eh.
Oh they heard us, but they decided that they were going to force this down our throats anyway. GOD, the ignorance of the American people is unbelievable.
Please. Find out your Representatives voted. Let's work how to get those who sold us out out of office. Now is the time for us to organize and see to it that these sellouts are voted out> I mean it! This is sickening what happened tonight. The American people were against this and they shoved it down our throats anyway. Get involved now more than ever people!
I wa sjust talking to a congressman. Healthcare is the fastest and most lucrative and successfuil industry right now. So why would our government want to take control of it, tax it and regulate it to the point of placing it in the lower ranks of other failed businesses?
It looks as if this commie Obama will get his health care plan. That means that I will never see the age of 80 because the commie libs fuckers will not allow me to have an insurance plan that will offer me life saving services. Those benefits will go to illegal immigrants, but not me.
I've got the V.A. When not working, or without ins. As does any person, that served in our Military & has an Honorable Discharge. they can take my guns,
This bill is an outrage. if you care about this country, you will watch this film and learn where this is leading. watch?v=VebOTc-7shU Fall of the Republic
From - We the people to - We the MOTHERFUCKERS. If this piece of SHIT passes We the people will fight back letting them know what BAD KARMA is on voting day.
Big time. Especially if the Bill includes Abortion.
The libtards might have awakened a real giant, imagine if everyone in the USA who does not want this, goes down, and turns themselves in. What, they going to put 100 million people in jail?
I am STILL waiting for someone to explain to me where in the US Constitution this Bill is legal.
UsoSilly2Me....I want adjoining cells with you... since it is a federal offense you can be sure we will get to keep our internet and receive free health care there...lol.
hmm...been thinkin' bout that
vetasalierno 8 months ago
America is dying.
Kousaburo 1 year ago
Look at the color of his tie to understand who was behind this message to the people!
2222554 1 year ago
In jail they will get FREE Health Care? That is messed up.
joebonsaipoland 1 year ago
@joebonsaipoland Whats really messed up is when I got locked up in Wisconsin Upon relase I was handed a 6000 dollar bill for services rendered Food , housing , healthcare and wages
wotterful 1 year ago
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I know I have no money for myself to take care of my health.,lettalone get a fucking job because nobody will give me one. But I also know that I have a S&W 5906 9mm that I have been cleaning.
MstrMnd420 1 year ago
What a steaming pile of LIES!
Gawd these people are so stupid!!!!
Frank Luntz has chips implanted in their heads to repeat the bullshit lies and talking points.
KikoKat 1 year ago
why can't i post
yahlers 1 year ago
He is right...subjects...not we the people
artbysue2007 1 year ago
No one is forcing you to change your insurance. Why don't you understand that?
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush This bill is horrible! Health care needed reform but this will cause so much harm. I am forced to change the coverage of my employees. The taxes on my business will increase, my girlfriends income can now be directly controlled by the government.. It also limits her freedom to own a hospital or portions there of. Some of the bill has little or nothing to do with healthcare and much more to do with giving the federal government more powers. I don't see ANYTHING good about this!!!!
trevticks 1 year ago
@trevticks If you own a small business then you actually get a tax break and subsidies for your employees insurance. This bill does a lot of good. I think you just got fed a ton of misinformation.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush I did get fed a ton of misinformation, so I decided to read the bill. The people that work in this country will have to pay for this HUGE program. According to the wording of the bill, my CPA and all of my business professors, my business will not receive any tax breaks. What good will this bill do? It takes more money out of my pocket and gives the government more power over the people? Fun fact: I currently have no medical or dental insurance and I'm still against this bill.
trevticks 1 year ago
@trevticks Fun fact: uninsured ppl like you are a liability to everyone else when you get sick. Why should I pay for your irresponsibility?
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush How am I a liability? I pay for all the health care that I receive. I don't want and don't accept any handouts! I have saved thousands to cover my future health costs, no one pays for me! I live within my means so that I can cover all of my obligations. I think you agree with me about not wanting to pay for the care of others.
trevticks 1 year ago
im useing the heath care bill right now a toilet paper.
blt40 1 year ago
just watch sicko please be educated
resengan777 1 year ago
you people in government need to do your jobs that you were elected for..you do not do your job and the american people are disgusted..you have your health and salaries with perks..keep on with the lobbyists and corporations because their your perks..but never forget the american people and we will win and on our backs and you will be voted out.,
HIPHOPrevoltion 2 years ago
TO WAR!
Ladies in gentlemen, we are witnessing the death of our once great republic. Fret not, however, for we shall witness convulsions the likes of which this continent has not seen. I will suffer a patriot's death and my blood shall stain this land, but by the Almighty God, I will spill the blood of tyrants along with my own.
This is a declaration of war. I will not pay. I will fight. I will kill. I will die.
Let us ride to war my friends, and die like men.
dkrustyklown 2 years ago 16
Don't you see that this is what they are trying to provoke? A war. Order out of chaos? They best thing to do is to make our state govt face them. Write to them, call them, the state govt don't want this anyways. It is in the hands of the individual states. We can do this. Don't fall for the trap where they want you too shoot first.
mercurio0000 1 year ago
@dkrustyklown you know it.
blt40 1 year ago
Wow. You just admitted that you will go out and murder ppl. U should be locked up.
kubush 1 year ago
@dkrustyklown Im not even old enough for this piece of shit to apply to me, they will get me to buy health care over my, and many other people's, dead bodies
NinjaRacoonDelta 1 year ago
This is nothing to be worried about folks. This was entirely expected. It was also predictable that Nancy and Friends would behave as though it were a done deal; that's what they do - then they hope it becomes self-fulfilling prophecy. The behavior is Smoke and mirrors. In this fight against this monster bill - this is merely the end of the beginning, not the beginning of the end. A lot more ahead.
haypenny 2 years ago
"The House bill is dead on arrival in the Senate," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on CBS' "Face the Nation," noting that 39 Democrats "bailed out" on the bill Saturday night. "It was a bill written by liberals for liberals. ... So the House bill is a non-starter in the Senate."
haypenny 2 years ago
he didan`t mention the death panels,
how come??
Realizalize 2 years ago
They don't exist, pretty simple huh.
Pooalovaurself 2 years ago
why do i know about those, then ?
Realizalize 2 years ago
You don't, you said you heard. Until you've read the bill yourself you don't know you idiot.
Pooalovaurself 2 years ago
ok ok them smartypants...
if i had effort to calm down some fearing/panicking relatives about death panels and if it was repeated over and over on several channels in a more or less serious/believable way, and had to keep up with hours of this stuff and calming down ppl over again ,
then YOU tell me there are no death panels, I MEAN WHO IS THE FUCK GONNA PAY FOR THIS DAMN SHIT,
or rather , what are the consequences?
dear?
Realizalize 2 years ago
Are you mentally handicapped? There aren't any death panels check the bill... The entire country is going to pay for it. The benefits outweigh the consequences (higher taxes).
Pooalovaurself 2 years ago
what about bankruptcy for small buisness.the rich or government minions can only control you if they hold something over your head.well, here it is.
mommar33 2 years ago
Small businesses get a tax credit for insuring their employees.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush
please provide evidence
yahlers 1 year ago
@yahlers Evidence for what?
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush
the tax credit for insuring employees. i just wanted to see where that was in the bill.
yahlers 1 year ago
@yahlers Lookup: Small Business Health Care Tax Credit
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush
wow thanks, you're so helpful.
so the government is forcing business to pay for employee's insurance. If not, they get penalized. If they do, they get a tax credit? They still have to pay for the insurance, so it doesn't make BUSINESS SENSE. The credit is for small employers employing people who make <$25k. They are VIP's and must be saved.
Did they mention to you that premiums will be increasing? Have you taken ECON 101 yet?
yahlers 1 year ago
@yahlers Wow, fuck you too then. I had to google it for you because apparently you couldn't do it yourself. And when I post the exact name of the part of the bill that you are asking about, you reply with sarcasm. Dick.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush
there's nothing good about the health care bill. Its raising the premiums and deteriorating the practice of medicine.
i thought you were in support of it. sorry for being a dick.
yahlers 1 year ago
@kubush
please provide evidence
yahlers 1 year ago
if someone tells me there are going to be death panels, which you say isn`t true at all,then why did i get it repeated over and for over half a year length of time?and all it costs those who claimed so,is their own time,and nothing more! if it wasn`t true in the first place and they also probably knew better,but they claim it anyway, so they lie and all it costs them is a smile,and they are not even sorry? and you, you "defend" the bill on/for that reason in your freetime!? did i attack at all?
Realizalize 2 years ago
Wait. So the 'death panels' accusation is true because you heard it repeated over and over? That's conservative logic for you.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush
you dunno what went on while i was telling folks, what was going on
in usayans healthcare debate...here in anygerm.., so in regards of the standing and the career of those who claimed deathpanels to be true i thought i`d rather jump on their waggon instead of being send to a psychiatry...it is not logic here but the safe route...
rather be a deathpanelist in the usa politics than someone who recaps it in foreign land...
Realizalize 1 year ago
What benefits?
Please tell me what benefits this has for the citizens of this country! More people on the same or less doctors and staff, and medical technology companies getting out of the business because they can't get paid what they need to for their products...how is any of that a BENEFIT?
Before launching into a defense, remember that when obstetricians in rural Oregon were put on medicaid price controls, THEY LEFT. Access to care was LOST. But we all paid more.
Benefit?...
cecilbdml 2 years ago 4
@cecilbdml Amen!
trevticks 1 year ago
How will it help?
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
Yeah, the polls show that 70% of the ppl that have an opinion on the bill dont even know whats in it. So, Im not suprised why ppl think there are going to be death panels. Its bullshit propaganda and the right is swallowing it.
kubush 1 year ago
Had an erie feeling, this was gonna get thru the House. tonight!
gunnyranger2 2 years ago 2
After listening to Pelosi and the rest of the socialist talk I thought about putting on a big pair of wadders so I could walk through ALL of the bullshit coming out of their mouths..
barthunt1 2 years ago
we still have the senate! But let's face it, Pelsoli and her gang will push this through there also.
starVol 2 years ago
We fought hard this past summer. Those good people that attented the townhalls who fought this only to see these commies sell us out!
starVol 2 years ago
Apparently the tea party's did not send a strong enough message to the DemoCrap Shit for Brains Party. We'll have to work on getting our message through, eh.
Nickk361 2 years ago
Oh they heard us, but they decided that they were going to force this down our throats anyway. GOD, the ignorance of the American people is unbelievable.
starVol 2 years ago
Please. Find out your Representatives voted. Let's work how to get those who sold us out out of office. Now is the time for us to organize and see to it that these sellouts are voted out> I mean it! This is sickening what happened tonight. The American people were against this and they shoved it down our throats anyway. Get involved now more than ever people!
starVol 2 years ago
I wa sjust talking to a congressman. Healthcare is the fastest and most lucrative and successfuil industry right now. So why would our government want to take control of it, tax it and regulate it to the point of placing it in the lower ranks of other failed businesses?
ninanwk69 2 years ago 2
Incompatibility between ideologies.
MrNobleSavagery 2 years ago
Why did I have to hear this news from that little cocksucker, Geraldo?
starVol 2 years ago
It looks as if this commie Obama will get his health care plan. That means that I will never see the age of 80 because the commie libs fuckers will not allow me to have an insurance plan that will offer me life saving services. Those benefits will go to illegal immigrants, but not me.
starVol 2 years ago
Anarchy burger....hold the Government!
Support your local GUNSHOW!'
1Cactusprick 2 years ago 4
DEO VINDICE!
RebelStangII 2 years ago
I've got the V.A. When not working, or without ins. As does any person, that served in our Military & has an Honorable Discharge. they can take my guns,
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!
rebelstang 2 years ago 2
SAME HERE!
I use the VA here....and I agree with you about that "other" thing.
:)
1Cactusprick 2 years ago 2
DEO VINDICE!
RebelStangII 2 years ago
DITTO'S!
LONG LIVE THE REBELLION!
RebelStangII 2 years ago
This bill is an outrage. if you care about this country, you will watch this film and learn where this is leading. watch?v=VebOTc-7shU Fall of the Republic
BeachedWhale09 2 years ago 3
There's no way the Feds can enforce this.
We'll just run them out of town on a rail.
GrievousCommander 2 years ago 3
Message to ALL Uhbamabots,members of Congress & anyone else pushing this shit on the American public:
Payback is indeed a bitch,remember that!
onecelticwarrior 2 years ago 4
From - We the people to - We the MOTHERFUCKERS. If this piece of SHIT passes We the people will fight back letting them know what BAD KARMA is on voting day.
computerpurple 2 years ago 3
this will flush alll the jobs
vmpslr2 2 years ago 3
If this shit passes, I predict, there will be civil unrest.
USoSilly2Me 2 years ago 4
@USoSilly2Me
Ohhhh yes, that's coming.
mosquewatcher 2 years ago 4
Big time. Especially if the Bill includes Abortion.
The libtards might have awakened a real giant, imagine if everyone in the USA who does not want this, goes down, and turns themselves in. What, they going to put 100 million people in jail?
I am STILL waiting for someone to explain to me where in the US Constitution this Bill is legal.
Jethro212 2 years ago 4
I just hope my cell has a window.
USoSilly2Me 2 years ago 3
UsoSilly2Me....I want adjoining cells with you... since it is a federal offense you can be sure we will get to keep our internet and receive free health care there...lol.
myangels7 2 years ago 4
This is Charlie Wrangels' dumb crap.
EUROTRASHSPAMMER 2 years ago 3
me2
vmpslr2 2 years ago
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vmpslr2 2 years ago
Obamageddon should be in jail!
Mrcharliebobo 2 years ago 4