have you tried using s.s./ neutral s.s/ copper ? this lessens the amps on tap ..or chemcally.electrolyzed H2O, just make sure you have the right polarity hence your tapwater will turn blue..and oxydation takes place and stop the process... i appreciate you only use tap..
yet would it be better if you can harness only the HH .. i believe HH only holds the key for better combustion.. good luck to your project
The thing people here really don't understand is... the "energy" produced is far less than the energy consumed. DO THE MATH!! So I personally fail to see the ultimate motive here, are we just tinkering with some basic electrochemical principles to amuse?
I have been thrown this argument way too many times, when there are companies doing this on a huge level for businesses and the military for the last 50 years. It is not about efficiency, it's about reliability. If your car can produce enough electricity to operate a redux chamber to produce combustable gas that can replace the gasoline then who cares if it isn't 100% efficient? We care if it is efficient enough to be reliable. You think the current combustion system is efficient?
@unicks not when the engine the hho is running has a permanent magnet alternator. Did you know how much energy it take to make gasoline from oil? I'll bet its 1000% more... and gasoline doesn't put out 1/6th the power of hydrogen :-\
If your plates are connects +-+-+-+-+-+ that cell will overheat like crazy, check a bit and make sure it´s not vapour, once you confirm it, please let us know how you did it, the production (if it is 100% hho and no vapour) is amazing. BTW by the color of the water you must be using 304 steel right ?
PLease check your temp to verify you are not boiling your water, your battt may be 12A (it looks more like 40A), but remember an automotive battery is designed to give all it's got ina short burst, so if your cell draws 200 amps the batt will give them to the cell (and run more than a minute).
Nice cell. One problemI see is you are reading the amps of the battery charger. Taht is amps the charger is putting to the bat.not amps going into cell. If the batt is fully charged 40+ amps may be present at cell.
Hook up an ammeter between jumper cables and cell. They cost about 25.00 for 60 ampere.
The batts I have are 144 watts (12v 12A) . I've been lookin around for amp meter. I dont think tap water pulls 40amps. The water stays cool when I circulate the water.
either something is wrong with your method of measurment or you have produced efficiencies way beyond normal for the type of device you have constructed ...
I am aware of only a handfull of devices capable of more than 7.5 militers per minute per watt, even fewer than can exceed 8 mmw ... if your numbers turn out to be correct, you are doing very nearly 8 mmw ...
well, there are a handfull who have demonstrated superior efficiencies here on YouTube. There are others who prefer not to be so well known that have demonstrated vastly superior efficiencies.
However, if your numbers are correct, your device is considerably more efficient than the device I am working on, as it peaks at about 6 mmw, but averages only 5.25. I think Zero does a little better than me, but not much.
What exactly is MMW. I did this with trial and error but its not enough. From the help of investors and my new research team I want to fuel jets. I might sound crazy but from the start I sounded crazy. I started from the Tech and became better than him. I don't know how to explain the large amounts of HHO but I know I'm on the right track. There is no electronics no electrolytes.
You don't sound crazy to me :-) You are doing a wonderful work for humanity, and I really appreciate it! MMW = mililiters per minute per watt. This is the common formula used to determine the cell's efficiency. My cells get 4-5 mmw. Sid Young claims 6+ mmw on his Sid Cell. I hear that science tells us that the max possible is between 8 and 9 mmw, but It may be possible to do better. 1 liter in 59 secs = 1017 ml/min. 10.8 amps X 12 volts = 129.6 watts. 1017/129.6 = 7.85 mmw.
So, there are no electronics and no electrolytes. That's really cool. But, could you tell us about your cell? What kind of steel? What are the dimensions the plates? What is the spacing? How many plates. How many cells? How many neutrals. Can it run for hours without over heating? The more information you can give us the more helpful it will be to the rest of us experimenters :-)
you must have minerals or something in your tap water, lots of iron??
HardyTechnologies 1 year ago
have you tried using s.s./ neutral s.s/ copper ? this lessens the amps on tap ..or chemcally.electrolyzed H2O, just make sure you have the right polarity hence your tapwater will turn blue..and oxydation takes place and stop the process... i appreciate you only use tap..
yet would it be better if you can harness only the HH .. i believe HH only holds the key for better combustion.. good luck to your project
MrRapsahaybu 2 years ago
Hydrogen is a capacitor in your method, skip the toys and just connect an efficient DC motor to your power source and drink the water :)
Yes, there is an oxidizing effect.. yes, that makes hydrocarbons burn more efficient... but is that what you are claiming to have built?
I see a bubbler in peroxide ;)
unicks 2 years ago
The thing people here really don't understand is... the "energy" produced is far less than the energy consumed. DO THE MATH!! So I personally fail to see the ultimate motive here, are we just tinkering with some basic electrochemical principles to amuse?
Toys!
unicks 2 years ago
Well hydrogen is the catalyst of gasoline. Making it burn faster. More energy is moved to motion rather than heat. Toys? Get your facts right buddy!
mikeyidh 2 years ago
I have been thrown this argument way too many times, when there are companies doing this on a huge level for businesses and the military for the last 50 years. It is not about efficiency, it's about reliability. If your car can produce enough electricity to operate a redux chamber to produce combustable gas that can replace the gasoline then who cares if it isn't 100% efficient? We care if it is efficient enough to be reliable. You think the current combustion system is efficient?
successfulCreativeA 10 months ago
@unicks not when the engine the hho is running has a permanent magnet alternator. Did you know how much energy it take to make gasoline from oil? I'll bet its 1000% more... and gasoline doesn't put out 1/6th the power of hydrogen :-\
Me102288 9 months ago
crazy good
sakcheegii 2 years ago
i've seen better
Doversreturn 3 years ago
If your plates are connects +-+-+-+-+-+ that cell will overheat like crazy, check a bit and make sure it´s not vapour, once you confirm it, please let us know how you did it, the production (if it is 100% hho and no vapour) is amazing. BTW by the color of the water you must be using 304 steel right ?
ivojara 3 years ago
I'm Using 316 grade steel.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
PLease check your temp to verify you are not boiling your water, your battt may be 12A (it looks more like 40A), but remember an automotive battery is designed to give all it's got ina short burst, so if your cell draws 200 amps the batt will give them to the cell (and run more than a minute).
ivojara 3 years ago
"no electronics and no electrolytes"
Starting from the other end, what is so different, that you know of?
recbo 3 years ago
Ravi go ogle ou by tiny url com 4etllgand then sirHOAX, both exc on Stanley Meyer replication
recbo 3 years ago
... ?
mikeyidh 3 years ago
I made a challenge so everyone can work faster and make progress with fuel cell technology. I guess this worked for me.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
Tomorrow I'm meeting up with the tech for confirmations of my records. Let this be our window in of tapping fuel cell Max performance.
So Im going to see if the cell has any hidden features I got lucky with.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
Nice cell. One problemI see is you are reading the amps of the battery charger. Taht is amps the charger is putting to the bat.not amps going into cell. If the batt is fully charged 40+ amps may be present at cell.
Hook up an ammeter between jumper cables and cell. They cost about 25.00 for 60 ampere.
good job and good luck
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago
The batts I have are 144 watts (12v 12A) . I've been lookin around for amp meter. I dont think tap water pulls 40amps. The water stays cool when I circulate the water.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
VERY good job Mikey, nice cell build. And as SSC says, please confirm your numbers. You do great video presentations as well!
Leftwings22 3 years ago
please check you numbers again and confirm ...
either something is wrong with your method of measurment or you have produced efficiencies way beyond normal for the type of device you have constructed ...
I am aware of only a handfull of devices capable of more than 7.5 militers per minute per watt, even fewer than can exceed 8 mmw ... if your numbers turn out to be correct, you are doing very nearly 8 mmw ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
I will with olm meter. But If my records are right I have the best cell.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
well, there are a handfull who have demonstrated superior efficiencies here on YouTube. There are others who prefer not to be so well known that have demonstrated vastly superior efficiencies.
However, if your numbers are correct, your device is considerably more efficient than the device I am working on, as it peaks at about 6 mmw, but averages only 5.25. I think Zero does a little better than me, but not much.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
u are one smart kidd
me954305 3 years ago
According to your numbers, you got 7.8 mmw. That's very impressive -- the best I've seen! How did you do it?
nashsi 3 years ago
What exactly is MMW. I did this with trial and error but its not enough. From the help of investors and my new research team I want to fuel jets. I might sound crazy but from the start I sounded crazy. I started from the Tech and became better than him. I don't know how to explain the large amounts of HHO but I know I'm on the right track. There is no electronics no electrolytes.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
You don't sound crazy to me :-) You are doing a wonderful work for humanity, and I really appreciate it! MMW = mililiters per minute per watt. This is the common formula used to determine the cell's efficiency. My cells get 4-5 mmw. Sid Young claims 6+ mmw on his Sid Cell. I hear that science tells us that the max possible is between 8 and 9 mmw, but It may be possible to do better. 1 liter in 59 secs = 1017 ml/min. 10.8 amps X 12 volts = 129.6 watts. 1017/129.6 = 7.85 mmw.
nashsi 3 years ago
So, there are no electronics and no electrolytes. That's really cool. But, could you tell us about your cell? What kind of steel? What are the dimensions the plates? What is the spacing? How many plates. How many cells? How many neutrals. Can it run for hours without over heating? The more information you can give us the more helpful it will be to the rest of us experimenters :-)
nashsi 3 years ago