@XFaye6224X Yes that is correct. There is a third one called the Bear Hug. It is used for shallower water pools up to 75cm deep. Casuality face down, put your arms under their arms and place your hands over their ears as if you are going to do a full nelson hold. You then squeeze lock to stablise the head and neck and flip the casualty onto their back with you lying under the water. It is important that the 2nd lifeguard takes the casualties head rather quicky.
@RussinTirnaNog Kool this helps tones thank u so much i am a lifeguard and about to take my 2 year renwal test in august and im very scared ill fail because i havent had much practice since i passed 2 years ago the pool i work at is 1.1m deep and only 15meters long with 7meters wide so its not a large pool and ive never had to do a resuce witch im greatful of so this advise is helping me tones thank you :)
@XFaye6224X No probs. Try and get one of your mates to be a casualty, and get in as much practice as you can. If your stuck on anything send me a message. 1.1m would be a head splint roll. A vice grip might cause you to rattle your feet of the floor of the pool. Keep calm, think about what you are doing before you do it, stay in control of the situation and of course..... Good luck.
@RussinTirnaNog Thank u so much we have got this staff training thing on friday so i hope that will help i must say we have never practiced a bear hug turn we have practiced the other 2 but never that one when i was on my couse i dont think they even showed us how to do that one thank again :)
This is pretty slow...I'm no pro at this and I boarded the victim in 0:45sec from towing from deep end to removing the victim onto the deck. I think the first rescue really needs to use his legs and do eggbeater or any kick that will get the victim moving fairly quickly and there should be a 2 man boarding. One person on deck slicing the board in and the 1st rescuer bringing the victim on that. It's really fast so you can start CPR asap
@a7nwee Thank you for your comment. Firstly, these canditates are TRAINING to become lifeguards I was not looking for speed at this time. You yourself should know that that only happens with time and confidence. I have seen the Canadian way of bringing a suspected spinal injury casualty and we do a similar thing for larger casualties with fewer lifeguards.
Im doing my lifeguard couse soon im a good swimmer i have done first aid before and i know a bit about lifeguarding as all my mates are lifeguards, Im just scared that i wont be able to do more then 5 lengths at speed if im taking them slow then fair enough will i have to do more then 5 lengths at speed at one time?
@VoL7aGeX We only ask that you can do 50m in a minute for our course. Do you know what length the pool is? I would suggest that you do 3 at a reasonable speed and then the last two lengths you put more effort into it if it is a timed swim.
Personally I see this part as rather silly for pool courses as who in their right mind is going to swim to the casualty that length whrn you would enter the water from the closest point.
oh wow this is different from what we do in Canada. I suppose it doesn't matter what way you remove them from the water as long as immobilization is maintained.
@shqiperiany In the event of a true emergancy where a lifeguard has to enter the water, they don't really have any time to take of their tops. All my candidates at some point during the training wear full kit including trainers.
I also train Army Cadets. They are expected to try it in full kit and boots - most succeed!!!
@dooenn I'd hope not. Any rescue you make in the water should be relatively easy as the water will help support both you and the casualty especially if you are, yourself, using an aid such as a torpedo bouy. I can understand that you might feel uneasy about lifting people out of the water, but again, provided you are given good instruction and proper training, you should be fine.
Ok, well I'm sorry that this looks extremely horrible, and looks like it would be a lot worse then help anything. Plus in Eliss there is no such thing as a unconscious spinal. If there unconscious you do a regular save, if it is a spinal you use vice grips.
@rbabytrick I am concerned to read that In Eliss, there is no such thing as an unconscious spinal. What happens if a swimmer were to dive into shallow water?
An un suspected unconscious casualty would be taken to the edge of the pool using either the chin or extended arm tow.
@RussinTirnaNog Okay but life over limb. Wouldn't you rather live through something then someone take there time and possible die because they were unconcious. I would rather live with a spinal injury then die because someone suspected my spin was hurt, and not treated me correctly. Our motto is life or limb. All that time that you took to carefully lift him out of the water. You could have actually rescued him. Every second counts.
@rbabytrick It may not look clear to you, but his vital signs were being checked thoughout the whole proceedure. Had breathing not been present we would have started CPR.
Thank you for all your comments and interest in my you tube video.
@rbabytrick It is a vice grip turn. The candidate made a very good and smooth turn, which he did for his main exam also - and passed. Clearly your version and the british version have differences, in your opinion anyway.
if you fail on the vice grip/ spinal areas its an instant fail during an exam, for some reason i always found the vice grip easy. its the tows that get me confused! arm tow, shoulder tow, extended tow. etc.
if you fail on the vice grip/ spinal areas its an instant fail during an exam, for some reason i always found the vice grip easy. its the tows that get me confused! arm tow, shoulder tow, extended tow. etc
@TomSouthLondon Yes Tom, that is correct. If the casualtie's head and neck is not correctly supported and moved out of its neutral alinment then - if a spinal injury is suspected - the movement of the vertebrae could cause pressure on the spinal cord.
Yes, if done correctly, it is a very easy manover to make. I suggest a couple of kicks while in prone before turning to supine, make the surn easier. Tows are always confusing. keep up the good work.
@sk8dude888888 as long as you have a caring, understanding attitude and are aware for the severity that a spinal injury can cause, you will be fine. Good luck with the course. But remember - if lifeguards are on the ball and doing their job properly, then an incident such as this might not - or should not - occur.
@nikirock1 Hello, do you mean BRICK dive? If yes, we use a metre high orange manikin dummy that you hold under the arms and lift up so the it's face is upper side and out of the water first.
Whats the turn called at 0.09-0.12 ??
XFaye6224X 7 months ago
@XFaye6224X Vice grip. You use the length of your arms to form a splint-like vice to keep the head alined with the torso.
Regards
RussinTirnaNog 7 months ago
@RussinTirnaNog Thank you for replying :) are they only 2 turns vice grip turn and head splint are they the main ones ??
XFaye6224X 7 months ago
@XFaye6224X Yes that is correct. There is a third one called the Bear Hug. It is used for shallower water pools up to 75cm deep. Casuality face down, put your arms under their arms and place your hands over their ears as if you are going to do a full nelson hold. You then squeeze lock to stablise the head and neck and flip the casualty onto their back with you lying under the water. It is important that the 2nd lifeguard takes the casualties head rather quicky.
RussinTirnaNog 7 months ago
@RussinTirnaNog Kool this helps tones thank u so much i am a lifeguard and about to take my 2 year renwal test in august and im very scared ill fail because i havent had much practice since i passed 2 years ago the pool i work at is 1.1m deep and only 15meters long with 7meters wide so its not a large pool and ive never had to do a resuce witch im greatful of so this advise is helping me tones thank you :)
XFaye6224X 7 months ago
@XFaye6224X No probs. Try and get one of your mates to be a casualty, and get in as much practice as you can. If your stuck on anything send me a message. 1.1m would be a head splint roll. A vice grip might cause you to rattle your feet of the floor of the pool. Keep calm, think about what you are doing before you do it, stay in control of the situation and of course..... Good luck.
RussinTirnaNog 7 months ago
@RussinTirnaNog Thank u so much we have got this staff training thing on friday so i hope that will help i must say we have never practiced a bear hug turn we have practiced the other 2 but never that one when i was on my couse i dont think they even showed us how to do that one thank again :)
XFaye6224X 7 months ago
This is pretty slow...I'm no pro at this and I boarded the victim in 0:45sec from towing from deep end to removing the victim onto the deck. I think the first rescue really needs to use his legs and do eggbeater or any kick that will get the victim moving fairly quickly and there should be a 2 man boarding. One person on deck slicing the board in and the 1st rescuer bringing the victim on that. It's really fast so you can start CPR asap
a7nwee 7 months ago
@a7nwee Thank you for your comment. Firstly, these canditates are TRAINING to become lifeguards I was not looking for speed at this time. You yourself should know that that only happens with time and confidence. I have seen the Canadian way of bringing a suspected spinal injury casualty and we do a similar thing for larger casualties with fewer lifeguards.
RussinTirnaNog 7 months ago
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a7nwee 7 months ago
Im doing my lifeguard couse soon im a good swimmer i have done first aid before and i know a bit about lifeguarding as all my mates are lifeguards, Im just scared that i wont be able to do more then 5 lengths at speed if im taking them slow then fair enough will i have to do more then 5 lengths at speed at one time?
VoL7aGeX 7 months ago
@VoL7aGeX We only ask that you can do 50m in a minute for our course. Do you know what length the pool is? I would suggest that you do 3 at a reasonable speed and then the last two lengths you put more effort into it if it is a timed swim.
Personally I see this part as rather silly for pool courses as who in their right mind is going to swim to the casualty that length whrn you would enter the water from the closest point.
Enjoy the course and good luck
RussinTirnaNog 7 months ago
@RussinTirnaNog Thank you, where is your pool based ?
VoL7aGeX 7 months ago
@VoL7aGeX Scotland, United Kingdom.
RussinTirnaNog 7 months ago
oh wow this is different from what we do in Canada. I suppose it doesn't matter what way you remove them from the water as long as immobilization is maintained.
coldtemperature 8 months ago
perfet spinal but the secondary lifeguard never takes controol of the head from the first rescuer until you are secureing the head to the back board
and wheres the recue tubes
chancemason1 8 months ago
@chancemason1 There are differences between the United States version and the United Kingdoms. What my candidates did was correct.
RussinTirnaNog 8 months ago
perfet spinal but the secondary lifeguard never takes controol of the head from the first rescuer until you are secureing the head to the back board
chancemason1 8 months ago
why are they jumping in with shirts?
shqiperiany 9 months ago
@shqiperiany In the event of a true emergancy where a lifeguard has to enter the water, they don't really have any time to take of their tops. All my candidates at some point during the training wear full kit including trainers.
I also train Army Cadets. They are expected to try it in full kit and boots - most succeed!!!
RussinTirnaNog 9 months ago
I am a sixteen year old girl. i'm 5 foot. will lifeguard training be really hard for me because i am little?
dooenn 11 months ago
@dooenn I'd hope not. Any rescue you make in the water should be relatively easy as the water will help support both you and the casualty especially if you are, yourself, using an aid such as a torpedo bouy. I can understand that you might feel uneasy about lifting people out of the water, but again, provided you are given good instruction and proper training, you should be fine.
Go for it.
RussinTirnaNog 11 months ago
Ok, well I'm sorry that this looks extremely horrible, and looks like it would be a lot worse then help anything. Plus in Eliss there is no such thing as a unconscious spinal. If there unconscious you do a regular save, if it is a spinal you use vice grips.
rbabytrick 1 year ago
@rbabytrick I am concerned to read that In Eliss, there is no such thing as an unconscious spinal. What happens if a swimmer were to dive into shallow water?
An un suspected unconscious casualty would be taken to the edge of the pool using either the chin or extended arm tow.
Regards
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
@RussinTirnaNog Okay but life over limb. Wouldn't you rather live through something then someone take there time and possible die because they were unconcious. I would rather live with a spinal injury then die because someone suspected my spin was hurt, and not treated me correctly. Our motto is life or limb. All that time that you took to carefully lift him out of the water. You could have actually rescued him. Every second counts.
rbabytrick 1 year ago
@rbabytrick It may not look clear to you, but his vital signs were being checked thoughout the whole proceedure. Had breathing not been present we would have started CPR.
Thank you for all your comments and interest in my you tube video.
Keep well.
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
what the hell ? they didn't use vice grips first? what company is this? i know its deff. not ellis because that would've been a automatic fail.
rbabytrick 1 year ago
@rbabytrick It is a vice grip turn. The candidate made a very good and smooth turn, which he did for his main exam also - and passed. Clearly your version and the british version have differences, in your opinion anyway.
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
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if you fail on the vice grip/ spinal areas its an instant fail during an exam, for some reason i always found the vice grip easy. its the tows that get me confused! arm tow, shoulder tow, extended tow. etc.
TomSouthLondon 1 year ago
if you fail on the vice grip/ spinal areas its an instant fail during an exam, for some reason i always found the vice grip easy. its the tows that get me confused! arm tow, shoulder tow, extended tow. etc
TomSouthLondon 1 year ago
@TomSouthLondon Yes Tom, that is correct. If the casualtie's head and neck is not correctly supported and moved out of its neutral alinment then - if a spinal injury is suspected - the movement of the vertebrae could cause pressure on the spinal cord.
Yes, if done correctly, it is a very easy manover to make. I suggest a couple of kicks while in prone before turning to supine, make the surn easier. Tows are always confusing. keep up the good work.
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
the vice grip is probably one of the hardest, im doing a RLSS course at the moment, and my test/exam is tomorrow. im so scared:/
NathHusco 1 year ago
@NathHusco Just stay calm, assess the situation and relax. You will be fine. Just don't try to be a smart alec and show off. Good Luck
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
from watching this my lifeguard course dosent seem to be as bad as i thought it will be :)
sk8dude888888 1 year ago
@sk8dude888888 as long as you have a caring, understanding attitude and are aware for the severity that a spinal injury can cause, you will be fine. Good luck with the course. But remember - if lifeguards are on the ball and doing their job properly, then an incident such as this might not - or should not - occur.
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
@sk8dude888888 Oh and don't get your lip piecered. Health and Safety should you be required to do resus. What course are you doing RLSS OR STA NaRS?
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
@RussinTirnaNog im not :)
im doing the NLGQ
sk8dude888888 1 year ago
@sk8dude888888 lol RLSS. They are much the same. Good luck with it anyway.
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
@RussinTirnaNog lol thats what they called it :) and thanks
sk8dude888888 1 year ago
Main thing is "head-up" front crawl, so that you can see where your casualty is if you need to enter the water. Also learn how to throw a rope.
See if there are any rookie lifeguard courses that you can get on.
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago
thanks :) what else goes on in lifeguard training that i should practice
nikirock1 1 year ago
for the brcik dive can you hold it on any pary of your body?
nikirock1 1 year ago
@nikirock1 Hello, do you mean BRICK dive? If yes, we use a metre high orange manikin dummy that you hold under the arms and lift up so the it's face is upper side and out of the water first.
RussinTirnaNog 1 year ago