That was more like, The Bends. Then they followed up with OK Computer. Every one thought they would release the same album again (You know, like Coldplay and the frey...) and here we are now.
Thom himself said that Kid A "isn't that experimental".
In fact, it just depends what music you are listening to. Especially if you listen to some certain electronig or jazz artists, you will see that theres nothing on KID A which is entirely new. Radiohead simply "brought such music to the masses".
Or, what do you think is so innovative and never-before-heart about it?
@alsa005 That is true. I'm curious though, if you or anyone else knows if there is anything else out there that sounds like the song Kid A. I've never gotten tired of that song- most played on my iPod.
I think Ok Computer was better. I'm not exactly sure what people see in this album that they call it a masterpiece. I listened to it a lot and never really got into it.
@maddhattertime the interviewer at the start says it all. Very catchy songs in the guise of being strange. Very dark songs. The strangeness and darkness scare away those just in for a catchy tune BUT are so catchy for the people who like darkness, strange sounds and textures. I fall into this group and haven't heard another record like KID A, in terms of quality and originality.
@halifuckinfan I also love strange and dark things. Absolutely love them. Ok Computer was dark in its own melodic way. Kid A seems to me, too cold and inhuman. Amnesiac was better in my opinion because it had those original, strange sounds but managed to feel warmer.
@maddhattertime It's the sound of disconnection. The sounds of your inner demons. No it isn't a warm a record, and that's why I think it's their best.
though they have similarities muse has a different style to radiohead. I dont see the point in comparing them if they both wrote the exact same music then ye, you could compare them.
@danine1 Hehe, I know what you mean... just funny to see it put like that, since Radiohead came to prominence at least half a decade before either of these bands.
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Album reminds me of Trout Mask Replica, just not my thing at all. I'd rather listen to an authentic musical genius like Art Tatum then this electro ambiance shit. Half the people I know who say they like this album do it because they want to make it seem like they don't conform to what other people like. Being weird for attention. Whatever maybe it'll catch on.
@zaxjackson636 Damn, I thought I was the only soul that listens to Art Tatum, I absolutely LOVE Art Tatum,however I have been a loyal radiohead fan for fifteen years.So by your logic that would make me a wannabe?Those people you mentioned are just a bunch of posers,you know wannabe artsy fartsy type people.Please don't throw me into that category.I agree with you though, people just listen to this band because it's ''in'', and they make all other fans look stupid, it's disgusting really, peace.
@mindbender91 Here I am a year later, an enormous Radiohead fan, funny how tastes can change. I apologize for my comment everyone, I was a very young 15 and frustrated as to why Kid A was topping all the decade end best of lists! Not to sound like those "posers" but this album really does sound great on vinyl haha! Looking forward to their new album thats due out sometime soon!
Everything in its right place...one of the most powerful, meaningful and beautiful opening songs I've ever heard....no sound could have better prepared you for the indescribably weird enigma that was Kid A than this song.
Kid A was recently named the #1 album of the decade by Rolling Stone Magazine and Rhapsody. Finally, people are begining to realize how incredible this album is.
of course at the time kid a was released, it was hard for mainstream music critics to understand the significance and true beauty of the record and its influence on so many artists. 9 years later, it couldn't be more apparent. not just the best record of the decade, but one of the most influential records in history. in my opinion, more significant than ok computer by a long shot.
@Itasattc everybody who is a radiohead fan has always known how incredible the album is. its always been my favorite album and i was more proud than surprised when I saw it at Number 1 in rolling stone.
the only song i dislike from radiohea is creep i got so sick and tired of that song.. it was played every where i cant listen to it even now after 14 years i hate it lol but I love radiohead 4 ever!!
i remember the first time I heard it. After the first two songs, I was thinking, what the fuck is this ! But then The National Anthem came on and it just floored me !!! It's now my favourite of their albums. And when when you consider their catalogue, that's saying something
Kid A was strange for its time, but so many people of ripped it off since then that it's pretty accessable by today's standards. And it holds up perfectly.
I'd say its their best album, and perhaps the best album ever made. Because Kid A isn't a collection of songs; it's a single cohesive piece of art. I'd argue that every Radiohead album (aside from Pablo Honey) is like that, but this is the best example of it.
kid a was nothing new. it was probably amazing for a more popular band to choose that direction, but experimental/krautrock/avant-garde bands/artists had done that ages before radiohead. yes, even albums that were cohesive and flowed seamlessly existed decades before kid a. also, honestly, kid a isn't that cohesive at all. the only 'cohesive' part is that every song is entirely different, if that makes sense.
@LfunkeyA kid a was nothing new? i suppose electric ladyland was nothing new? nor dark side of the moon? nothing new...? they are all something new and very very different even in their outside-of-commercial appeal ways.... that's a very broad statement that categorizes and de-values a groundbreaking sound. that's like saying van gogh was nothing new because artists like cezanne were doing it years before.
i already stated that jimi hendrix, pink floyd, etc. were indeed fresh at the time. i found kid a on the other hand to be nothing more than a Can album with better sound effects. i find kid a forced and desperate for attention. that's my opinion and i have the right to have it.
also, that's not to say that i dislike the album, because i don't. i just happen to disagree with its massive praise, that doesn't mean you can't think it's amazing.
@tobiusfunke I wouldnt say people have "ripped it off" its kind of impossible as a musician to not be influenced by the music you listen to. I know that because radiohead has greatly changed the music i write and theres nothing i can do about it. So id imagine bands like muse civil twilight cant help but be some what influenced and for the record theres no way those bands can be compared especially muse.
I'd say its their best album, and perhaps the best album ever made. Because Kid A isn't a collection of songs; it's a single cohesive piece of art. I'd argue that every Radiohead album (aside from Pablo Honey) is like that, but this is the best example of it.
@tobiusfunke I'm not trying to be a pest or anything but what bands have actually tried to rip off Kid A? Honestly I can't think of one, again its just a statement I'm not trying to offend. Could anyone give me an example?
@CitizenApathy I think the statement is wrong- few if any bands have obviously ripped off Kid A- it is very hard to rip off such distinctive music with such diverse influences, or it takes even bigger hubris than anyone in today's music industry has. Radiohead however had a huge effect on the general style of alternative and indie rock. With Kid A they helped kill indie "rockism", the idea that "real" instruments recorded lo-fi with no sampling are automatically more "honest" than anything else.
@CitizenApathy as a result, the normal style of indie rock today is Radiohead-like- using any and all instruments (which was already being done even more by bands like Neutral Milk Hotel, and later Arcade Fire) for a lush psychedelic texture, but also being influenced by a wide range of genres from all time periods, with an emphasis on rhythm over loud guitar solos, and very often using digital sampling to stitch sounds together, even if it's usually more crowd-pleasing and poppy than Radiohead.
@CitizenApathy Animal Collective is an example- they're a band who would probably have been doing the exact same thing if Radiohead didn't make Kid A, they're in no way Radiohead ripoffs, or even necessarily Radiohead influenced- but people wouldn't have been ready for them if Radiohead didn't break this kind of thing into the mainstream of indie rock and they may have stayed obscure, or never dared to embrace electronics as they did on albums like Merriweather Post Pavilion and Strawberry Jam.
@CitizenApathy And arguably, Radiohead have had an even bigger influence on hip hop and by extension, the sound of pop music today, than they have on rock, weird as it sounds, and the influence flows through one man: Kanye West. I don't know when or why between '05 and '07 Kanye suddenly switched his musical allegiance from using mostly classic soul samples to Krautrock, techno and well, Thom Yorke solo tracks. But it changed the sound of the radio- through hip hop beats all genres went electro.
@CitizenApathy not saying Kanye ripped rh off. I am saying it's likely, though perhaps not certain, that Kanye's musical horizons, like mine and those of many other fans, were shifted a lot when he discovered Kid A, beyond the established genre boundaries of rock, hip hop, electronic. as a result, he at least temporarily shifted toward electronic sounds he had not previously embraced, and that sealed the "death" of hip hop (as nas predicted) while giving us our new crazy all-genres-in-one world.
@CitizenApathy one important thing to remember is it doesn't matter how original or unoriginal Kid A was, or even how good or bad- it just matters that it was the gateway for a new generation to these sounds. in the '80s, alternative rock had been a very progressive and experimental thing- before big record labels messed it up too much, relatively popular bands like New Order, the Cure, Siouxsie, PIL, Clash were doing their own thing using electronics, rhythm, texture-many genres mixed together.
@CitizenApathy that '80s alternative underground (including many amazing, and less popular innovators than the ones i named) is the era Radiohead grew up in- it defined their musical world- they took it for granted that music should be eclectic and unique not as a matter of trying to catch new trends or style (since at the time the rock mainstream couldnt care less) but because punk had inspired everyone to do their own thing, not give a shit what others thought-rh were a postpunk band that way.
@CitizenApathy when Nirvana (who were also one of those eclectic alternative bands with a huge range of influences) suddenly blew up in the mainstream, obviously it changed. first of all, lots of new guitar bands with underground taste were signed- rh were signed to EMI just as nevermind was rising in the charts over mj's dangerous (which is actually amazing in moments, btw, and has more experimental production than anything butch vig ever touched) and these two things were not at all unrelated.
@CitizenApathy while established bands like sonic youth and rem were initially able to retain creative control at majors, as new bands like rh went to majors and debuted in '92 and '93, more of the rough edges and anti-establishment politics and diverse influences of the old underground were sanded down, and loud guitars (which had proven popular with nevermind) were substituted for the more complex ideas the bands had (pablo honey is a "sellout" when you hear other songs radiohead left off it).
@CitizenApathy while nirvana used loudness creatively and cobain had deep ideals (why he despaired how his success had dumbed them down), there was soon another wave of bands inspired by nirvana, who just were loud for no purpose. "alternative" degenerated to being just another shitty form of radio music- loud, macho (ironically since cobain had a feminine side, and alt rock of the '80s from mbv and pixies to sonic youth were dominated by women), radio "fridge buzz" as thom said
@CitizenApathy meanwhile, indie retreated from the mainstream. bands who weren't loud and dumb enough to interest the majors, or simply didn't want to get involved with big labels and global capitalism, created scenes more diverse, more feminine, more intelligent, continued the spirit of '80s alternative. however, with one key difference. electronics, apart from vintage synths (stereolab), were out. the indie scene was DIY- in opposition to the big sounding productions of pop/hip hop in the 90s.
@CitizenApathy Radiohead as a major label band, who with the bends and okc gradually rejected the crassness and simplicity of mainstream 90s alt rock, exerted a huge influence, and kid a, in a way, was the least experimental album radiohead ever made- it was a return to their roots growing up with '80s post-punk bands, who could be loud or soft, rhythmic or melodic, use all kinds of instruments and ideas, including early electronics. but kid a was most kids (like me) first exposure to post-punk.
@CitizenApathy a lot of kids went on to start bands. Radiohead helped re-introduce a new generation of people to Joy Division, etc., along with all their newer influences, but even more important, it was the dont-give-a-fuck ideal of postpunk which they brought to the mainstream- nirvana popularized that ideal in the sense of "play loud" but radiohead's rebellion was more sonically diverse and complex, just as emotionally cathartic, but harder for corporations to co-opt for pure commerce.
@CitizenApathy because of the obvious trajectory of creativity people could trace in radiohead's career, or at least of losing interest in commercial rock music and embracing more obscure influences, it demolished whatever was left of the pseudo-alternative rock genre mainstream labels had set up as a way of profiting from nirvana soundalikes (as radiohead, initially, were judged). but it also demolished much of indie's self-satisfied quiet introspection. radiohead remained pop, but, took risks.
@CitizenApathy this is why, even though the amount of "pop" in Radiohead was much smaller than say the Beatles, and genres today are so fragmented, the band still ended up as close to the Beatles of their era, hugely influential across most genres, as a model of creativity. but creativity was also redefined- instead of meaning pure originality as older rock bands had pretended to (led zep never told people in the '70s how many of their blues songs were actually covers) it meant creative sampling
@CitizenApathy indie scene and most alt rock in the '90s had rejected hip hop- apart from nu metal bands, and their original creative inspiration, RATM. Radiohead weren't interested in gangsta's golden age, but like many old post punk kids, they loved old school 80s hip hop, and they embraced its sampling aesthetic (poorly renamed "electronica" in the '90s) chopping up their own sounds. this was perhaps the most revolutionary thing in kid a- the lack of "real" music in it, violating indie rules.
@CitizenApathy even though rh only directly sampled two experimental 70s electronic artists on idioteque, in spirit, it was an album entirely constructed of samples- in the sense that the band did not pretend to be pure originals, nearly every interview they gave, they talked about where this sound came from, or that one, which underground artists they loved. radiohead, not aphex twin, were first to accuse themselves of stealing from the entire warp catalogue (and from alice coltrane, etc.)
@CitizenApathy A big band acting this humble was so unique that many people interpreted it the opposite- Radiohead were showing off, trying to prove how innovative they supposedly were, by naming music most mainstream listeners had never heard of. time has shown these people to be wrong. radiohead were sincere in their musical loves on kid a, because they continued these explorations, it wasn't a one-off. and they redefined originality for this age when we all have instant access to music's past
Why does everybody say that kid a is such a strange album? It's one of the greatest albums of all time. I thought it was amazing the first time I listened to it
the noises and how unconventional it is (along with the lyrics) make it strange. But it is my favorite album of all time. I love Radiohead with every ounce OF MY BODY AFKHKAWFTHAWJKEFH
@42darklord hehe well it took me a while, on my 6th listen of the album it hit me!! So everyone is different, its def my fav album of theirs, i think In Rainbows is the most mature though..
i think sook yin lee gets access to great artists for good reason. perhaps its not always "as per script", and of course you can critique it and find good and bad. in the end, artists trust her. probably one of the most important parts of her job.
i really don't like interviewers who just state their opinions at their subject instead of asking them questions - i don't care if she thinks the album is comforting - i want to know what thom yorke thinks about it!
i admit she isnt the greatest interviewer, but i do agree on what she said about the album being comforting but disturbing, one of the many reasons why Kid A is my fav album =)
the most amazing album of all time. to me at least. the music, the art that goes along with it, the fact that it goes along perfectly with 1984. it's beautiful and strange and i love it so much.
id like to see this documentary with the interviewer completely cut out of it, because nothing an interviewer has to say is important anyway. she's also irritating
i want to have sex with this album
HelterSkelterSOR 1 week ago
OK Computer is their masterpiece, not this.
LaughingUltros 3 weeks ago
Damn I would fuck that chubby asian pussy.
Sookie sookie mmmm pussy pussy
gdoddmeta3608 1 month ago
'cheat tool'
FakePlasticShrimp 2 months ago
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ageofbloom 4 months ago
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ageofbloom 4 months ago
I love all thats radiohead, but eh boring groupie host can go. I'd rather hear about what gear they use or real ?s about their influences
verve92 6 months ago
Wow, this interviewer is full of shit.
Kropotkinskaya 8 months ago
Kid A: Radiohead's return to the glory of Pablo Honey....
TheNadster2 10 months ago
@TheNadster2
That was more like, The Bends. Then they followed up with OK Computer. Every one thought they would release the same album again (You know, like Coldplay and the frey...) and here we are now.
aijunk2 6 months ago
@paulsbreakfast
Acknowledging the comparisons is an insult in itself.
nick4man3 11 months ago
wow a phil sighting
brandmolotov54 11 months ago 2
What is that you try say?!
87nikolad 11 months ago
nada que ver muse con radiohead
son mis dos bandas favoritas ..y ninguna es mejor que la otra
simplemente son distintas
chingadamadre
julsmattias 1 year ago
She is hot, not wonder he is doing the interview with her. Good call thom!...
andyman139 1 year ago
@paulsbreakfast who the fuck is muse?
magueza 1 year ago
pretty sure thoms only talking to this broad cus she's hot. kid a comforting? nigel "goodrich"?
think she needs to go back to coldplay.
first2four 1 year ago
Anything that sounds like Kid A?
I think Radiohead inspired the song on this song:
Bogdan Raczynski - Samurai Math Beats
2k1980 1 year ago
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2k1980 1 year ago
i bought a kaoss pad to play this song song live for the School of Rock
futurfry 1 year ago
I really love the album
...but all the people here who think that it's groundbreaking, innovative or something entirely new have no idea.
alsa005 1 year ago
@alsa005 wait...so you're saying it isn't groundbreaking, innovative or something entirely new?
jymiurine 1 year ago
@jymiurine
Thom himself said that Kid A "isn't that experimental".
In fact, it just depends what music you are listening to. Especially if you listen to some certain electronig or jazz artists, you will see that theres nothing on KID A which is entirely new. Radiohead simply "brought such music to the masses".
Or, what do you think is so innovative and never-before-heart about it?
alsa005 1 year ago 2
@alsa005 That is true. I'm curious though, if you or anyone else knows if there is anything else out there that sounds like the song Kid A. I've never gotten tired of that song- most played on my iPod.
Tengent 1 year ago
I think Ok Computer was better. I'm not exactly sure what people see in this album that they call it a masterpiece. I listened to it a lot and never really got into it.
maddhattertime 1 year ago
@maddhattertime the interviewer at the start says it all. Very catchy songs in the guise of being strange. Very dark songs. The strangeness and darkness scare away those just in for a catchy tune BUT are so catchy for the people who like darkness, strange sounds and textures. I fall into this group and haven't heard another record like KID A, in terms of quality and originality.
halifuckinfan 1 year ago
@halifuckinfan I also love strange and dark things. Absolutely love them. Ok Computer was dark in its own melodic way. Kid A seems to me, too cold and inhuman. Amnesiac was better in my opinion because it had those original, strange sounds but managed to feel warmer.
maddhattertime 1 year ago
@maddhattertime It's the sound of disconnection. The sounds of your inner demons. No it isn't a warm a record, and that's why I think it's their best.
halifuckinfan 1 year ago 7
probably the best album ever made
omriofir 1 year ago
lol at colin greenwood's face at 'yesterday i woke up sucking a lemon'
Hoobtastic 1 year ago
@paulsbreakfast
though they have similarities muse has a different style to radiohead. I dont see the point in comparing them if they both wrote the exact same music then ye, you could compare them.
ewok100 1 year ago
why is muse being mentioned in the same sentence as radiohead ? seriously get over it. stop comparing.
babaoriley8 1 year ago
Radiohead was God's reward to man after the 80s as an apology
Colourbend 1 year ago 31
Can TOTALLY picture that.
"So what do you think?"
"Well how the fuck should I know?"
tehJESSEH 1 year ago
oh man....back when much music could play an hour long show on Kid A
holypigs 1 year ago 3
I wish I knew what Collin was playing. Tabs are so yucky....
justinPoneal 1 year ago
he is so fuckin weird.
love that XD
bananaempijama 1 year ago
i think thoms voice sounds best on kid A
qwerty887 1 year ago
@qwerty887 haha funny :P
andytomas07 1 year ago
I would've killed to see Kid A live in its entirety.
BruisedEyeSockets 1 year ago 6
Muse and coldplay and all that shit are just beginner lessons for the real deal: radiohead
danine1 1 year ago 34
coldplay has about as much historical musical relevance as 'the bay city rollers'.
Period.
Rollo7 1 year ago 5
@danine1 great statement :)
23lFrench 1 year ago
@danine1 Hehe, I know what you mean... just funny to see it put like that, since Radiohead came to prominence at least half a decade before either of these bands.
LantaGem 1 year ago
@danine1
All those 3 bands are the most amazing bands of all time hands down.
nel542 9 months ago
i don't think i've ever heard phil speak before, not the voice i expected him to have. thought it'd be deeper or something. ha.
jumeau1 1 year ago
i don't know why but thom yorke reminds me of the character Benjamin Lynus in LOST.
SiriusFisherman 1 year ago 3
clutching at thin air. Brilliant
bavwill 2 years ago
brilliant interview
bavwill 2 years ago 2
I nearly had an emotional breakdown the other day when I heard someone describe Radiohead as "a shit version of Muse".
I wanted to destroy the person who said it.
TehCupcakeBandito 2 years ago 20
What a strange thing to say. The one ur on about that is. funny really.
bavwill 2 years ago
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Album reminds me of Trout Mask Replica, just not my thing at all. I'd rather listen to an authentic musical genius like Art Tatum then this electro ambiance shit. Half the people I know who say they like this album do it because they want to make it seem like they don't conform to what other people like. Being weird for attention. Whatever maybe it'll catch on.
zaxjackson636 2 years ago
@zaxjackson636 you clearly cant see past the facade
mattycull 2 years ago
@zaxjackson636 Damn, I thought I was the only soul that listens to Art Tatum, I absolutely LOVE Art Tatum,however I have been a loyal radiohead fan for fifteen years.So by your logic that would make me a wannabe?Those people you mentioned are just a bunch of posers,you know wannabe artsy fartsy type people.Please don't throw me into that category.I agree with you though, people just listen to this band because it's ''in'', and they make all other fans look stupid, it's disgusting really, peace.
mindbender91 1 year ago
@mindbender91 Here I am a year later, an enormous Radiohead fan, funny how tastes can change. I apologize for my comment everyone, I was a very young 15 and frustrated as to why Kid A was topping all the decade end best of lists! Not to sound like those "posers" but this album really does sound great on vinyl haha! Looking forward to their new album thats due out sometime soon!
zaxjackson636 1 year ago
@zaxjackson636 So at 15 you were 'very young' and now that you're 16, you're not?
maddhattertime 6 months ago
@maddhattertime that was the 'joke'
zaxjackson636 6 months ago
her sleeves are really annoying
quillber 2 years ago
In 200 years I think people will still be in love with Kid A
After all, the people of the future will be way cooler everyone alive today
thats the secret meaning to this album
mimesis6mime 2 years ago 6
All Radiohead albums are good but Kid A is incredible. It's better than OK Computer.
SeedsofJoy 2 years ago 2
Everything in its right place...one of the most powerful, meaningful and beautiful opening songs I've ever heard....no sound could have better prepared you for the indescribably weird enigma that was Kid A than this song.
TubesforDudes 2 years ago 4
Kid A was recently named the #1 album of the decade by Rolling Stone Magazine and Rhapsody. Finally, people are begining to realize how incredible this album is.
Itasattc 2 years ago
of course at the time kid a was released, it was hard for mainstream music critics to understand the significance and true beauty of the record and its influence on so many artists. 9 years later, it couldn't be more apparent. not just the best record of the decade, but one of the most influential records in history. in my opinion, more significant than ok computer by a long shot.
seaofwhoas 2 years ago 3
@seaofwhoas Quite a statement.
tylerdurden4495 2 years ago
@Itasattc everybody who is a radiohead fan has always known how incredible the album is. its always been my favorite album and i was more proud than surprised when I saw it at Number 1 in rolling stone.
Mrmtjones 2 years ago 2
0:35 Mom mom m m m...(Splash!!!)...Momentum!!!
Genius in comedy as well.
malonervozan 2 years ago
yeah sure
mariano26788 2 years ago
SOOK!
also colin is super epic
franks1no 2 years ago
Kid A is my favourite album of all time, could listen to it on a loop for the rest of my like and never get bored
tparkins92 2 years ago 17
Sook-Yin Lee is my new baby mama.
lesscunning 2 years ago 2
the only song i dislike from radiohea is creep i got so sick and tired of that song.. it was played every where i cant listen to it even now after 14 years i hate it lol but I love radiohead 4 ever!!
Amnesiacmidnitetoker 2 years ago
I don't like the original version for the same reason, but I love the acoustic version lol
radiohead are the best band ever though!!!
tparkins92 2 years ago 3
i remember the first time I heard it. After the first two songs, I was thinking, what the fuck is this ! But then The National Anthem came on and it just floored me !!! It's now my favourite of their albums. And when when you consider their catalogue, that's saying something
dan564891 2 years ago
Kid A was strange for its time, but so many people of ripped it off since then that it's pretty accessable by today's standards. And it holds up perfectly.
I'd say its their best album, and perhaps the best album ever made. Because Kid A isn't a collection of songs; it's a single cohesive piece of art. I'd argue that every Radiohead album (aside from Pablo Honey) is like that, but this is the best example of it.
tobiusfunke 2 years ago 77
Well put.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago 2
I agree, every album of theirs has its own sound, even a song you don't know, you could tell which album it's off.
I saw them at Reading last night, they were unbelievable.
arsenal30liverpool 2 years ago
i totally agree but idk if anyone can say what the best album ever is just because of different tastes.
but your exactly right. you really have to let Kid A sink in. but when it does you wont hear music the same way. at least i dont.
SOADownsnubs 2 years ago 4
@tobiusfunke
kid a was nothing new. it was probably amazing for a more popular band to choose that direction, but experimental/krautrock/avant-garde bands/artists had done that ages before radiohead. yes, even albums that were cohesive and flowed seamlessly existed decades before kid a. also, honestly, kid a isn't that cohesive at all. the only 'cohesive' part is that every song is entirely different, if that makes sense.
LfunkeyA 1 year ago
@LfunkeyA are there any specific artists that come to your mind
philosiva1 1 year ago
@philosiva1
can, pink floyd, kraftwerk, heck even jimi hendrix's electric ladyland. but that's just my opinion.
LfunkeyA 1 year ago
@LfunkeyA agreed
philosivas 1 year ago
@LfunkeyA what are some of the artists that did this kinda stuff before? and what kinda new stuff is pionering right now?
thymegadeth 1 year ago
@thymegadeth
i've already replied to a similar question
LfunkeyA 1 year ago
@LfunkeyA kid a was nothing new? i suppose electric ladyland was nothing new? nor dark side of the moon? nothing new...? they are all something new and very very different even in their outside-of-commercial appeal ways.... that's a very broad statement that categorizes and de-values a groundbreaking sound. that's like saying van gogh was nothing new because artists like cezanne were doing it years before.
blottttt 1 year ago
@blottttt
i already stated that jimi hendrix, pink floyd, etc. were indeed fresh at the time. i found kid a on the other hand to be nothing more than a Can album with better sound effects. i find kid a forced and desperate for attention. that's my opinion and i have the right to have it.
LfunkeyA 1 year ago
@blottttt
also, that's not to say that i dislike the album, because i don't. i just happen to disagree with its massive praise, that doesn't mean you can't think it's amazing.
LfunkeyA 1 year ago
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blottttt 1 year ago
@tobiusfunke - My sentiments exactly.
djwelly 1 year ago
@tobiusfunke it's like i really am reading pitchfork. i do love this album but you don't have to be so over the top about it.
epilepticbattery 1 year ago
@tobiusfunke My thoughts EEEEXACTLY! You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Kidchair 1 year ago 2
@tobiusfunke I wouldnt say people have "ripped it off" its kind of impossible as a musician to not be influenced by the music you listen to. I know that because radiohead has greatly changed the music i write and theres nothing i can do about it. So id imagine bands like muse civil twilight cant help but be some what influenced and for the record theres no way those bands can be compared especially muse.
kmall311 1 year ago
@tobiusfunke
I'd say its their best album, and perhaps the best album ever made. Because Kid A isn't a collection of songs; it's a single cohesive piece of art. I'd argue that every Radiohead album (aside from Pablo Honey) is like that, but this is the best example of it.
I couldn't have said it better.
thehuntingbear 1 year ago
@tobiusfunke Well put my friend, really well put.
cmatthews926 10 months ago
@tobiusfunke I'm not trying to be a pest or anything but what bands have actually tried to rip off Kid A? Honestly I can't think of one, again its just a statement I'm not trying to offend. Could anyone give me an example?
CitizenApathy 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy I think the statement is wrong- few if any bands have obviously ripped off Kid A- it is very hard to rip off such distinctive music with such diverse influences, or it takes even bigger hubris than anyone in today's music industry has. Radiohead however had a huge effect on the general style of alternative and indie rock. With Kid A they helped kill indie "rockism", the idea that "real" instruments recorded lo-fi with no sampling are automatically more "honest" than anything else.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy as a result, the normal style of indie rock today is Radiohead-like- using any and all instruments (which was already being done even more by bands like Neutral Milk Hotel, and later Arcade Fire) for a lush psychedelic texture, but also being influenced by a wide range of genres from all time periods, with an emphasis on rhythm over loud guitar solos, and very often using digital sampling to stitch sounds together, even if it's usually more crowd-pleasing and poppy than Radiohead.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy Animal Collective is an example- they're a band who would probably have been doing the exact same thing if Radiohead didn't make Kid A, they're in no way Radiohead ripoffs, or even necessarily Radiohead influenced- but people wouldn't have been ready for them if Radiohead didn't break this kind of thing into the mainstream of indie rock and they may have stayed obscure, or never dared to embrace electronics as they did on albums like Merriweather Post Pavilion and Strawberry Jam.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy And arguably, Radiohead have had an even bigger influence on hip hop and by extension, the sound of pop music today, than they have on rock, weird as it sounds, and the influence flows through one man: Kanye West. I don't know when or why between '05 and '07 Kanye suddenly switched his musical allegiance from using mostly classic soul samples to Krautrock, techno and well, Thom Yorke solo tracks. But it changed the sound of the radio- through hip hop beats all genres went electro.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy not saying Kanye ripped rh off. I am saying it's likely, though perhaps not certain, that Kanye's musical horizons, like mine and those of many other fans, were shifted a lot when he discovered Kid A, beyond the established genre boundaries of rock, hip hop, electronic. as a result, he at least temporarily shifted toward electronic sounds he had not previously embraced, and that sealed the "death" of hip hop (as nas predicted) while giving us our new crazy all-genres-in-one world.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy one important thing to remember is it doesn't matter how original or unoriginal Kid A was, or even how good or bad- it just matters that it was the gateway for a new generation to these sounds. in the '80s, alternative rock had been a very progressive and experimental thing- before big record labels messed it up too much, relatively popular bands like New Order, the Cure, Siouxsie, PIL, Clash were doing their own thing using electronics, rhythm, texture-many genres mixed together.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy that '80s alternative underground (including many amazing, and less popular innovators than the ones i named) is the era Radiohead grew up in- it defined their musical world- they took it for granted that music should be eclectic and unique not as a matter of trying to catch new trends or style (since at the time the rock mainstream couldnt care less) but because punk had inspired everyone to do their own thing, not give a shit what others thought-rh were a postpunk band that way.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy when Nirvana (who were also one of those eclectic alternative bands with a huge range of influences) suddenly blew up in the mainstream, obviously it changed. first of all, lots of new guitar bands with underground taste were signed- rh were signed to EMI just as nevermind was rising in the charts over mj's dangerous (which is actually amazing in moments, btw, and has more experimental production than anything butch vig ever touched) and these two things were not at all unrelated.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy while established bands like sonic youth and rem were initially able to retain creative control at majors, as new bands like rh went to majors and debuted in '92 and '93, more of the rough edges and anti-establishment politics and diverse influences of the old underground were sanded down, and loud guitars (which had proven popular with nevermind) were substituted for the more complex ideas the bands had (pablo honey is a "sellout" when you hear other songs radiohead left off it).
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy while nirvana used loudness creatively and cobain had deep ideals (why he despaired how his success had dumbed them down), there was soon another wave of bands inspired by nirvana, who just were loud for no purpose. "alternative" degenerated to being just another shitty form of radio music- loud, macho (ironically since cobain had a feminine side, and alt rock of the '80s from mbv and pixies to sonic youth were dominated by women), radio "fridge buzz" as thom said
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy meanwhile, indie retreated from the mainstream. bands who weren't loud and dumb enough to interest the majors, or simply didn't want to get involved with big labels and global capitalism, created scenes more diverse, more feminine, more intelligent, continued the spirit of '80s alternative. however, with one key difference. electronics, apart from vintage synths (stereolab), were out. the indie scene was DIY- in opposition to the big sounding productions of pop/hip hop in the 90s.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy Radiohead as a major label band, who with the bends and okc gradually rejected the crassness and simplicity of mainstream 90s alt rock, exerted a huge influence, and kid a, in a way, was the least experimental album radiohead ever made- it was a return to their roots growing up with '80s post-punk bands, who could be loud or soft, rhythmic or melodic, use all kinds of instruments and ideas, including early electronics. but kid a was most kids (like me) first exposure to post-punk.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy a lot of kids went on to start bands. Radiohead helped re-introduce a new generation of people to Joy Division, etc., along with all their newer influences, but even more important, it was the dont-give-a-fuck ideal of postpunk which they brought to the mainstream- nirvana popularized that ideal in the sense of "play loud" but radiohead's rebellion was more sonically diverse and complex, just as emotionally cathartic, but harder for corporations to co-opt for pure commerce.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy because of the obvious trajectory of creativity people could trace in radiohead's career, or at least of losing interest in commercial rock music and embracing more obscure influences, it demolished whatever was left of the pseudo-alternative rock genre mainstream labels had set up as a way of profiting from nirvana soundalikes (as radiohead, initially, were judged). but it also demolished much of indie's self-satisfied quiet introspection. radiohead remained pop, but, took risks.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy this is why, even though the amount of "pop" in Radiohead was much smaller than say the Beatles, and genres today are so fragmented, the band still ended up as close to the Beatles of their era, hugely influential across most genres, as a model of creativity. but creativity was also redefined- instead of meaning pure originality as older rock bands had pretended to (led zep never told people in the '70s how many of their blues songs were actually covers) it meant creative sampling
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy indie scene and most alt rock in the '90s had rejected hip hop- apart from nu metal bands, and their original creative inspiration, RATM. Radiohead weren't interested in gangsta's golden age, but like many old post punk kids, they loved old school 80s hip hop, and they embraced its sampling aesthetic (poorly renamed "electronica" in the '90s) chopping up their own sounds. this was perhaps the most revolutionary thing in kid a- the lack of "real" music in it, violating indie rules.
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy even though rh only directly sampled two experimental 70s electronic artists on idioteque, in spirit, it was an album entirely constructed of samples- in the sense that the band did not pretend to be pure originals, nearly every interview they gave, they talked about where this sound came from, or that one, which underground artists they loved. radiohead, not aphex twin, were first to accuse themselves of stealing from the entire warp catalogue (and from alice coltrane, etc.)
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@CitizenApathy A big band acting this humble was so unique that many people interpreted it the opposite- Radiohead were showing off, trying to prove how innovative they supposedly were, by naming music most mainstream listeners had never heard of. time has shown these people to be wrong. radiohead were sincere in their musical loves on kid a, because they continued these explorations, it wasn't a one-off. and they redefined originality for this age when we all have instant access to music's past
ageofbloom 5 months ago
@ageofbloom Wow, thanks for the answer.
CitizenApathy 5 months ago
@ageofbloom Very, very well said. I read the entire thing :) cheers
b3naan 4 months ago
@ageofbloom Thanks for sharing your knowledge. subscribed
LiverAcid 1 month ago
Why does everybody say that kid a is such a strange album? It's one of the greatest albums of all time. I thought it was amazing the first time I listened to it
42darklord 2 years ago 6
yeah great album but strange to
mariano26788 2 years ago
the noises and how unconventional it is (along with the lyrics) make it strange. But it is my favorite album of all time. I love Radiohead with every ounce OF MY BODY AFKHKAWFTHAWJKEFH
wafflestuffer2 2 years ago
it is strange. but thats why its so profound and amazing.
thosecinnamonropes 2 years ago
its also really really creepy and haunting
theflyingmadcap 2 years ago
@42darklord hehe well it took me a while, on my 6th listen of the album it hit me!! So everyone is different, its def my fav album of theirs, i think In Rainbows is the most mature though..
artikelmusic 2 years ago
Slippery rubber baby bottle nipples..
krishotsaucemiller 2 years ago
1:00
They spelt Godrich wrong!
godlessKnowledge 2 years ago
I like Thom's hair.
the1stbeaner 2 years ago
Never heard Phil speak before.
atjhsieh 2 years ago 4
This was done for MuchMusic in Canada
zigglezorp 2 years ago
nigel GOODrich?
mikeyourself33 2 years ago
hahaha a hauntingly beautiful creature
bourne16 2 years ago
that's what made me make a kid a wallpaper for my desktop ;)
clbztf 2 years ago
}<id a
amnesiac
rainbows
eraser
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OCIRELCNU 2 years ago
There really is nothing better than watching a music critic tell a band what their music is about and somehow try and disguise it as a question.
Capuchin 2 years ago 10
i think sook yin lee gets access to great artists for good reason. perhaps its not always "as per script", and of course you can critique it and find good and bad. in the end, artists trust her. probably one of the most important parts of her job.
cobra1376 2 years ago
Is this on DVD somewheres?
PearlJammer07 2 years ago
is this out on dvd or something? or for which network its made?
jrosiles 2 years ago
What an incredible album Kid A is. And what a shame this irritating bint was given the task of conducting these interviews.
All the squirm-inducing moments of over-familiarity on her part ruined this!!!!
matooli 2 years ago
well worded, but she's not too bad.
weiRdFishYorke 2 years ago 2
ohh i have kaoss pad3.. really awesome, they are using kaoss 2 i guess here.
randomhunter 2 years ago
i really don't like interviewers who just state their opinions at their subject instead of asking them questions - i don't care if she thinks the album is comforting - i want to know what thom yorke thinks about it!
matafuko 2 years ago 4
cooooolll. :)
radiohock 2 years ago
phil sounds like boy george.
kidaok00 3 years ago
check out at 0:36...haha hilarious
this documental is f***ing amazing!!
thanx a lot x posting it!
NovaStraCe 3 years ago
nigel gOOOOOdrich ??? oh really !
FolieRose21 3 years ago
wtf is Ed up to with those shoulder movements at 3:18?!
Shadowplaying 3 years ago 3
that chinese lady is asking the wrong questions
tmprogram 3 years ago
i've never heard phil speak before. nobody really gives him much credit or attention.
andrew11235 3 years ago 11
Way too much opinion for a documentry. She keeps telling him what his music means which its horribly awkward.
vicprobey 3 years ago 9
i admit she isnt the greatest interviewer, but i do agree on what she said about the album being comforting but disturbing, one of the many reasons why Kid A is my fav album =)
bzradiohead18 3 years ago
I love Phil! He's so cool.
pacoiec 3 years ago 6
somehow the interviewer has turned me off from even watching this...which is a shame
tws03 3 years ago 3
lol. 'Nigel Goodrich'
roseflutur09 3 years ago 4
I want to pound her like Sugar Ray Leonard pummels a punching bag.
Basically, I want to drink the fragrant nectar of her Cooch. Thank you.
ludachris475 3 years ago
cooch
hehehehe
pablodmdp 3 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I want to have sex with Sook-Yin Lee.
ludachris475 3 years ago
She sounds so dumb
MitchS4350 3 years ago
motion picture soundtrack makes me want to kill myself also. Other than that radiohead is god.
OCIRELCNU 3 years ago
the most amazing album of all time. to me at least. the music, the art that goes along with it, the fact that it goes along perfectly with 1984. it's beautiful and strange and i love it so much.
skatendestroy93 3 years ago 5
that is one cool interviewer
lesvegas5 3 years ago
I want to fuck this interviewer, Sook Yin Lee so badly.
ludachris475 3 years ago
This interviewer is SOOO Hot!
ludachris475 3 years ago
Motion Picture Soundtrack makes me want to die.
ludachris475 3 years ago
haha forever though.
fronczek123 3 years ago
bloody geniuses
penwickpark 3 years ago
This album makes me want to kill myself.
It's great.
ludachris475 3 years ago 3
thats not good man. music should do lots of things but not make you suicidal!
gibbduncan 3 years ago 10
Kid A is a masterpiece.
ludachris475 3 years ago 9
This Asian interviewer is so hot.
ludachris475 3 years ago
does anyone know what the name of the instrument the guitarist is playing in 'Everything In It's Right Place' is? The sampler touch-screen thing.
TrinityRoad1 3 years ago
it's a kaoss pad. :)
persiangilmour935 3 years ago 5
Kaoss pad
Halcyon91 3 years ago 4
@ 8:00 when thom says SHIT
billyradiohead 3 years ago
nice thom reasoning cause we dont here interviewingLOL
billyradiohead 3 years ago
FUCK YEH
ijustsigneduptobagu 3 years ago
id like to see this documentary with the interviewer completely cut out of it, because nothing an interviewer has to say is important anyway. she's also irritating
jcarrig 3 years ago 5
Cute though.
CerebrateHyatt 3 years ago 2
grt
danajagonija13 3 years ago
i love when phil talks
sophilianate 3 years ago 2