pharmacists know way more about medicine than doctors. they specialize in them so of course! doctors know study more of the body and diseases and procedures and all that stuff.
Pharmacists know way more then the arrogant narrow minded doctors. Sometimes pts are prescribed certain drugs because the dr is getting kickbacks from the pharmaceutical reps. Trust your pharm when it comes to drugs
You need to look at the whole patient when prescribing medications. Doctors look at the whole patient (or should anyway) and should make decisions based indications and contraindications of the patient's medical history. The patient may have an allergy or have a medical condition which which will prevent a certain drug to be used.
@kaydinyan ...and a pharmacist doesn't? Doctors are experts on diagnosis, disease states, and what class of medications are appropriate to treat what kind of illness the patient has. Pharmacists on the other hand, are experts on every detail about each drug and how it effects each specific patient based on their system functions... you need both for a optimal care
I'm not a Doctor or a Pharmacist, but I know a lot about prescription drugs. I have had to explain certain meds to doctors that I have seen, who didn't know the drug existed.
An MD spends four years in medical school learning about drugs... and how to diagnose disease, how to perform clinical evals (most of last 2 years, actually), etc etc. A pharmacist spends four years in pharmacy school learning about drugs.
I'm going with the pharmacist.
Some MDs seem to think that because they're a doctor they're an expert on EVERYTHING.... idiots.
You know the difference in a PharmD and MD? It's PHAR...
Well, I'll admit, I do like pharmacists. They are very knowledgable about drugs and are helpful to have around on the wards to answer questions about random drug interactions, etc.
Pharmacists are drug experts, doctors are experts on illnesses/diseases/condition of the human body. These two are supposed to work together to provide the BEST service for the patients. However, more than often, they are trying too hard to supersede one another. From personal experience, the doctors I've seen think they know everything and most of them even belittles the pharmacists and pharmacies. Even when we've pointed out a clear error out of concern for the patient, they make it seem like
@arman87 - that was my point as well - there are some pharmacists (not many, but definitely a percentage) that are "MD wannabes" without going to med school...each has a unique and necessary function and can contribute to each others practice and help each other.
I'm a pharmacist currently in medical school. These are two very different professions. Instead of trying to outdo eachother, each should stick to their own unique strengths. At the end of the day, they are both there to improve the health and wellbeing of patients in need. RxDr
Wow! Thanks to all these comments I can see the problem with healthcare now. We need to quit arguing which healthcare professional is better and focus on working together for the good of the patient. I'm a PharmD student and I just did a hospital rotation and was impressed with the cooperation between the doctor and pharmacist teams. If the pharmacist in this bit would have called the doctor and made his suggestion they could have discussed different therapy options and picked most appropriate
@wc123 - Then why aren't you allowed to just give the drugs out without an MD? Even a BCPS needs MD standing orders. There's a reason for that. Pharmacists are the medication experts; what about the treatments that are not drug related? How much do you know about surgery? Or physical therapy? Or nutrition? All these are disease treatments also. And most pharmacists are pretty weak in gross anatomy; that an observation of grads from many schools.
Pharmacists are trained in all aspects of drugs and their uses. This includes their use in treating diseases. Pharmacists may not know how to put a stent in. But they know when they are put in and this is because some times patients will ask questions about the procedures and why they need to be on said drugs after the procedure ex. "I thought they fixed it when they did the surgery, why do I still need drugs?" Pharmacist has to be able to figure out what surgery exactly etc.
@mvp019 You went to a god awful pharmacy school then. You took therapeutics classes that didn't teach you how to treat diseases? This is just so wrong.
go wid the doctor.!!. There are many different drugs out there.. but the doc prescribes a medication tailored for that particular patient .. He takes into consideration the patients age, treatment history, and health status before prescribing any medicine.. Of course there are side effects for every drug but the doc will choose the drug where the benefits outweigh the side effects.. And I do not believe the pharmacist has access to the patients files.. So go with the doc!!
Yay, the pharmacist won! This is odd, considering that Larry used to write for Seinfeld. I recently saw a stand-up performance where Seinfeld said, concerning pharmacists, "All you do is take pills from a big bottle and put them into a little bottle! That's your WHOLE JOB!" He didn't get many laughs from this joke. Hopefully most of his audience knew that pharmacists are DOCTORS (newer grads anyway) that do much more than put pills in bottles.
@wildcatgreg well (in the video) he is still going back to the doctor to give him the name of the drug the pharmacist prefers...not the actual drug. however, i agree with you that pharmacists shouldn't contradict the doctor's orders by secretly giving another "better" drug.
@Ngelcanfly If you get all of your prescriptions filled at the same pharmacy so does the pharmacists. If you handed me a script I have the ability to tell if you what you could be treated for...such as cancer, HIV, a bacterial infection, etc.
Yikes! Don't go with the pharmacist, Larry! Pharmacists are crucial to healthcare obviously, but they don't know the patient's personal history like a physician does. If his physician found out that the pharmacist was contradicting his orders, the doc should rightfully be furious. That's just dangerous.
The whole idea of comparing MD to PHARM D is useless because each of them is unique and crucial in providing patient care. The doctor needs the expertise of a Pharmacist and visa versa.
in our medical uni..we take almost the same physiology and anatomy of MBBS guyz.. + pharmacognosy + pharmacology + pharmaceutical calculations + different chemistry subjects...
after graduation am pretty sure dat ma knowledge will surpass any GP :)
the pharmacist was f***ing lazy.. he could have just called the physician to inquire about changing the prescription to a different drug and taken a verbal prescription
There's a reason pharmacists are one of the most trusted professionals in the United States. For a while, they were #1. I think now they're 3 or 4, but they're still trusted over physicians. That being said, we also have a huge responsibility when it comes to patient care. =)
@hygo26 You are wrong. In the United States, at least, pharmacists undergo a four year professional program and do all the things that qrisjin listed below. And claiming otherwise - does indeed make you look ignorant. And please note that s/he pointed out that the two together provide complete healthcare - not one over the other. Now please calm down.
Many (ignorant) people don't know that pharmacists are indeed doctors (of pharmacy) and often are better trained in the treatment of disease using medication (which is the definition of pharmacotherapy). Simply put, MDs are trained to diagnose disease while Pharm.D.s and RPHs (pharmacists) are trained to treat diseases. Together they can provide complete healthcare.
@qrisjin bullshit.... pharmacist is not trained to treat .... he is trained to keep control of drugs ...and this is huge difference .... and this it .... !!!
@hygo26 You appear to be mistaken. In the United States, at least, pharmacists undergo a four year professional program and do all the things that qrisjin listed below. And claiming otherwise - does indeed make you look ignorant. And please note that s/he pointed out that the two together provide complete healthcare - not one over the other. Now please calm down.
@qrisjin I am a Pharmacist. You correct but you sound a bit arrogant. The truth is all health care professions are taught pharmacotherapy. It is just something that pharmacist market themselves as a focus of their training. The degree of knowledge a pharmacist has varies a lot and depends on the individual which no different from any profession.
@9mrsimz Wow, way to show the world just how intelligent you are with your brilliant comment. I am vanquished by the superiority of your masterful retort for me to "shut the hell up". Speechless...
@qrisjin I think for most people it would come down to relationship. Who do you have more of a trusted relationship with-your doctor or your pharmacist. You don't generally talk personally with your pharmacist--usually a pharmacy tech. But if you could develop a relationship with your pharmacist it would probably become more apparent he/she knows medications inside and out.
@testsubjectzz Because an undergraduate degree isn't rigorous enough to fully prepare somebody to manage a pharmacy, make complex decisions about an entire drug regimen and know how to counsel and engage with a patient right out of school.
Maybe you thought that all pharmacists do is put pills in a bottle and hand it to you?
@testsubjectzz While you are entitled to your opinion, a Masters in pharmacy is not really offered in the United States anymore. A doctor of pharmacy is required, since pharmacists in all fields are taking on or gearing up to take on greater responsibilities.
@qrisjin I think that last bit of information is actually inaccurate. MDs are trained to diagnose AND treat, but their role in the treatment is not the same as the pharmacist. While the latter knows much better the subtleties of different medication, the former is best trained to decide therapeutical courses (including non pharmacological treatment).
@qrisjin (cont'd) Say, I prescribe an antiplatelets to my patient. If I'm prescribing aspirin and clopidogrel. If the pharmacist calls me back saying I should switch clopidogrel to plasugrel instead, after looking at the pharmacokinetics and particular case of the patient, then I'm all with him -- he knows the meds much better than me. If he calls me asking to switch for warfarin (which is an anticoagulant), then he's flirting with the lines of our respective competences.
@MistDrummer then u agree for correlation with pharmacists in perspective of pharmacokinetics only and not pharmacodynamics ? and by the way , yes i agree with you the physician must be trained to decide which therapeutical courses best suite with the case, but the pharmacist is more knowledged about the pharmacology of the drugs used in such treatment and therefore play role in the treatment plan of the patient.
just for the people who dont understand y he chose the pharmacist......doctors get incentives from big companies (usually with expensive drugs) to suggest their drug to the patients....the incentives can be in the form of many ways (like my friends dad who is a physician gets top of the line electronics as gifts from drug companies like ipad and stuff)
pharmacists know way more about medicine than doctors. they specialize in them so of course! doctors know study more of the body and diseases and procedures and all that stuff.
jennxl33 3 days ago
Pharmacists know way more then the arrogant narrow minded doctors. Sometimes pts are prescribed certain drugs because the dr is getting kickbacks from the pharmaceutical reps. Trust your pharm when it comes to drugs
Moonlight8984 1 week ago
You need to look at the whole patient when prescribing medications. Doctors look at the whole patient (or should anyway) and should make decisions based indications and contraindications of the patient's medical history. The patient may have an allergy or have a medical condition which which will prevent a certain drug to be used.
kaydinyan 2 weeks ago
@kaydinyan ...and a pharmacist doesn't? Doctors are experts on diagnosis, disease states, and what class of medications are appropriate to treat what kind of illness the patient has. Pharmacists on the other hand, are experts on every detail about each drug and how it effects each specific patient based on their system functions... you need both for a optimal care
xXYuNPoOXx 2 weeks ago
lol!!
tneishy 1 month ago
all i really thought he'll choose the Doctor. HAHAHA! =)))
sunnybaelover 2 months ago
I'm not a Doctor or a Pharmacist, but I know a lot about prescription drugs. I have had to explain certain meds to doctors that I have seen, who didn't know the drug existed.
MrLas74 2 months ago
Here in mexico we pharmacist rule because we know all the drugs if need anything you dont have to (call your doctor for filling you narcotics)
RUDY4921 2 months ago
An MD spends four years in medical school learning about drugs... and how to diagnose disease, how to perform clinical evals (most of last 2 years, actually), etc etc. A pharmacist spends four years in pharmacy school learning about drugs.
I'm going with the pharmacist.
Some MDs seem to think that because they're a doctor they're an expert on EVERYTHING.... idiots.
TheUchicago2012 3 months ago 3
You know the difference in a PharmD and MD? It's PHAR...
Well, I'll admit, I do like pharmacists. They are very knowledgable about drugs and are helpful to have around on the wards to answer questions about random drug interactions, etc.
montblancboheme66 3 months ago
Lmfao!!!!!
jakegamesnake 5 months ago
Pharmacists are drug experts, doctors are experts on illnesses/diseases/condition of the human body. These two are supposed to work together to provide the BEST service for the patients. However, more than often, they are trying too hard to supersede one another. From personal experience, the doctors I've seen think they know everything and most of them even belittles the pharmacists and pharmacies. Even when we've pointed out a clear error out of concern for the patient, they make it seem like
idahaz 5 months ago 2
well... he made the right call! hahaha
TheBtam 6 months ago
@arman87 - that was my point as well - there are some pharmacists (not many, but definitely a percentage) that are "MD wannabes" without going to med school...each has a unique and necessary function and can contribute to each others practice and help each other.
mvp019 6 months ago
I'm a pharmacist currently in medical school. These are two very different professions. Instead of trying to outdo eachother, each should stick to their own unique strengths. At the end of the day, they are both there to improve the health and wellbeing of patients in need. RxDr
arman87 6 months ago
@arman87 so y did u decide to go med school?
hot64chick 6 months ago
...treatment. We all just have to put aside our difference and work together!
ccrules01 6 months ago
Wow! Thanks to all these comments I can see the problem with healthcare now. We need to quit arguing which healthcare professional is better and focus on working together for the good of the patient. I'm a PharmD student and I just did a hospital rotation and was impressed with the cooperation between the doctor and pharmacist teams. If the pharmacist in this bit would have called the doctor and made his suggestion they could have discussed different therapy options and picked most appropriate
ccrules01 6 months ago 2
@wc123 - Then why aren't you allowed to just give the drugs out without an MD? Even a BCPS needs MD standing orders. There's a reason for that. Pharmacists are the medication experts; what about the treatments that are not drug related? How much do you know about surgery? Or physical therapy? Or nutrition? All these are disease treatments also. And most pharmacists are pretty weak in gross anatomy; that an observation of grads from many schools.
mvp019 6 months ago
@mvp019
Pharmacists are trained in all aspects of drugs and their uses. This includes their use in treating diseases. Pharmacists may not know how to put a stent in. But they know when they are put in and this is because some times patients will ask questions about the procedures and why they need to be on said drugs after the procedure ex. "I thought they fixed it when they did the surgery, why do I still need drugs?" Pharmacist has to be able to figure out what surgery exactly etc.
zrchrn 6 months ago
Correction - pharmacists are trained in drug administration and side effects/interactions - NOT how to treat diseases. From a PharmD.
mvp019 6 months ago
@mvp019 You went to a god awful pharmacy school then. You took therapeutics classes that didn't teach you how to treat diseases? This is just so wrong.
wc123 6 months ago
oooooooo yeah
afnane9 6 months ago
go wid the doctor.!!. There are many different drugs out there.. but the doc prescribes a medication tailored for that particular patient .. He takes into consideration the patients age, treatment history, and health status before prescribing any medicine.. Of course there are side effects for every drug but the doc will choose the drug where the benefits outweigh the side effects.. And I do not believe the pharmacist has access to the patients files.. So go with the doc!!
shovad1 6 months ago
@shovad1 Depends on the setting. Hospitals, LTC, and other institutions, yes. Retail? Not so much.
yuechan 5 months ago
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MrMagutshwa 6 months ago
Yay, the pharmacist won! This is odd, considering that Larry used to write for Seinfeld. I recently saw a stand-up performance where Seinfeld said, concerning pharmacists, "All you do is take pills from a big bottle and put them into a little bottle! That's your WHOLE JOB!" He didn't get many laughs from this joke. Hopefully most of his audience knew that pharmacists are DOCTORS (newer grads anyway) that do much more than put pills in bottles.
kdog909 6 months ago
lol
MBS786 7 months ago
Very funny. I just got my PharmD recently
akapl619 7 months ago
heheeh people dont trust pharmacists as they trust the doctors??? that is good lets educate poeple.
Ahmed26813 7 months ago
I'm a pharmacist and I love my job. I earned my PHARM D and opened up my own pharmacy. I make good money.
MastaAce496 7 months ago
@wildcatgreg well (in the video) he is still going back to the doctor to give him the name of the drug the pharmacist prefers...not the actual drug. however, i agree with you that pharmacists shouldn't contradict the doctor's orders by secretly giving another "better" drug.
ajchuggaian 7 months ago
Although pharmacists know a lot about drugs, I would have to go with the doctor. The doctor knows your personal health record!
Ngelcanfly 7 months ago 2
@Ngelcanfly If you get all of your prescriptions filled at the same pharmacy so does the pharmacists. If you handed me a script I have the ability to tell if you what you could be treated for...such as cancer, HIV, a bacterial infection, etc.
palachani 6 months ago
Yikes! Don't go with the pharmacist, Larry! Pharmacists are crucial to healthcare obviously, but they don't know the patient's personal history like a physician does. If his physician found out that the pharmacist was contradicting his orders, the doc should rightfully be furious. That's just dangerous.
wildcatgreg 7 months ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Pharmacist’s job will soon be replaced by vending machine.
So, how about we call them “packing crew”?
bullgom 9 months ago
i'm assuming it's warfarin and i don't think pradaxa was out yet so i can't imagine what this guy wants to change it to... hmmm
seanmcd04 9 months ago
@seanmcd04 could it be Xarelto (rivaroxaban)?
Sindagon2 8 months ago
3 doctors changed their prescription to what the pharmacist likes
the7white7tomb 9 months ago
The whole idea of comparing MD to PHARM D is useless because each of them is unique and crucial in providing patient care. The doctor needs the expertise of a Pharmacist and visa versa.
PhysiologicAli 9 months ago 13
Damn! Can i get some oxycodone:)
PhysiologicAli 9 months ago
well...ama pharmD student...
in our medical uni..we take almost the same physiology and anatomy of MBBS guyz.. + pharmacognosy + pharmacology + pharmaceutical calculations + different chemistry subjects...
after graduation am pretty sure dat ma knowledge will surpass any GP :)
respect for doctors of pharmacy...
TheMarshall92 10 months ago 6
pharmacist ftw!
brokenchopstix 10 months ago 4
Ridiculous, People that like this are obvioulsy not doctors. And therefore they don't know what they are talking about.
juanses 11 months ago
hhhhhhhhhhhh yeah go with pharmacist
aztt100 11 months ago
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magd2992 11 months ago
I am a doctor
And doctors roll baby
mutebkalo 1 year ago
this clip edits out the second half of this scene. the doctor ends up winning...
collieh1 1 year ago
the pharmacist was f***ing lazy.. he could have just called the physician to inquire about changing the prescription to a different drug and taken a verbal prescription
windowsmediavideo 1 year ago 6
This video inspires me.....
anicerodriguez 1 year ago 2
Go go go... Pharmacists!
anicerodriguez 1 year ago 2
I relly like this video, so watch this guys... it promotes the morale of pharmacists in the US.
anicerodriguez 1 year ago
All i know is doctors cannot live without Pharmacists. Yet Pharmacists can live without doctors.
Achorafa 1 year ago
@Achorafa
In Malaysia, its the other way round.
marshall9doom 1 year ago
@marshall9doom
true that! when are we going to get patient's confidence!!
zulcomel 1 year ago
There's a reason pharmacists are one of the most trusted professionals in the United States. For a while, they were #1. I think now they're 3 or 4, but they're still trusted over physicians. That being said, we also have a huge responsibility when it comes to patient care. =)
chrissytinalalala 1 year ago
@hygo26 You are wrong. In the United States, at least, pharmacists undergo a four year professional program and do all the things that qrisjin listed below. And claiming otherwise - does indeed make you look ignorant. And please note that s/he pointed out that the two together provide complete healthcare - not one over the other. Now please calm down.
himymify 1 year ago 3
Many (ignorant) people don't know that pharmacists are indeed doctors (of pharmacy) and often are better trained in the treatment of disease using medication (which is the definition of pharmacotherapy). Simply put, MDs are trained to diagnose disease while Pharm.D.s and RPHs (pharmacists) are trained to treat diseases. Together they can provide complete healthcare.
qrisjin 1 year ago 151
@qrisjin bullshit.... pharmacist is not trained to treat .... he is trained to keep control of drugs ...and this is huge difference .... and this it .... !!!
hygo26 1 year ago
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@hygo26 You appear to be mistaken. In the United States, at least, pharmacists undergo a four year professional program and do all the things that qrisjin listed below. And claiming otherwise - does indeed make you look ignorant. And please note that s/he pointed out that the two together provide complete healthcare - not one over the other. Now please calm down.
himymify 1 year ago
@qrisjin I am a Pharmacist. You correct but you sound a bit arrogant. The truth is all health care professions are taught pharmacotherapy. It is just something that pharmacist market themselves as a focus of their training. The degree of knowledge a pharmacist has varies a lot and depends on the individual which no different from any profession.
ohcrapitsmrG 1 year ago
@qrisjin you sound like you're a pharmacist who is a wanna-be doctor
qwer1234555sd 11 months ago
@qwer1234555sd And you sound like someone trying to stir up a reaction... Nice try. Ignorance is a stinky cologne. :-)
qrisjin 11 months ago
@qrisjin lol
qwer1234555sd 11 months ago
@qwer1234555sd i agree. he should sut the hell up.
9mrsimz 11 months ago
@qrisjin shut the hell up
9mrsimz 11 months ago
@9mrsimz Wow, way to show the world just how intelligent you are with your brilliant comment. I am vanquished by the superiority of your masterful retort for me to "shut the hell up". Speechless...
qrisjin 11 months ago
@qrisjin blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. shut the hell up.
9mrsimz 11 months ago
@9mrsimz how idiotic ! :) sorry dude....but ur an ignorant person. :)
TheMarshall92 10 months ago
@qrisjin am a pharmD student ! ^_^
TheMarshall92 10 months ago 2
@qrisjin but nurses acting like they are doctors a idiots.
grineflip 9 months ago
@qrisjin I think for most people it would come down to relationship. Who do you have more of a trusted relationship with-your doctor or your pharmacist. You don't generally talk personally with your pharmacist--usually a pharmacy tech. But if you could develop a relationship with your pharmacist it would probably become more apparent he/she knows medications inside and out.
alnewberry 7 months ago
@qrisjin why the fuck would you do a doctorate in pharmacy
testsubjectzz 5 months ago
@testsubjectzz
I suppose one can ask why do a doctorate in anything?
dragonboy718 5 months ago
@testsubjectzz Because an undergraduate degree isn't rigorous enough to fully prepare somebody to manage a pharmacy, make complex decisions about an entire drug regimen and know how to counsel and engage with a patient right out of school.
Maybe you thought that all pharmacists do is put pills in a bottle and hand it to you?
captaintrebek 5 months ago
@captaintrebek a masters is sufficient, if you have a doctorate in pharmacy you'll most likely be involved in research and not be handing out drugs.
testsubjectzz 5 months ago
@testsubjectzz While you are entitled to your opinion, a Masters in pharmacy is not really offered in the United States anymore. A doctor of pharmacy is required, since pharmacists in all fields are taking on or gearing up to take on greater responsibilities.
captaintrebek 5 months ago 6
@qrisjin I think that last bit of information is actually inaccurate. MDs are trained to diagnose AND treat, but their role in the treatment is not the same as the pharmacist. While the latter knows much better the subtleties of different medication, the former is best trained to decide therapeutical courses (including non pharmacological treatment).
MistDrummer 5 months ago
@qrisjin (cont'd) Say, I prescribe an antiplatelets to my patient. If I'm prescribing aspirin and clopidogrel. If the pharmacist calls me back saying I should switch clopidogrel to plasugrel instead, after looking at the pharmacokinetics and particular case of the patient, then I'm all with him -- he knows the meds much better than me. If he calls me asking to switch for warfarin (which is an anticoagulant), then he's flirting with the lines of our respective competences.
MistDrummer 5 months ago 2
@MistDrummer then u agree for correlation with pharmacists in perspective of pharmacokinetics only and not pharmacodynamics ? and by the way , yes i agree with you the physician must be trained to decide which therapeutical courses best suite with the case, but the pharmacist is more knowledged about the pharmacology of the drugs used in such treatment and therefore play role in the treatment plan of the patient.
Thanks :) ..
ashrafbazan 4 months ago
just for the people who dont understand y he chose the pharmacist......doctors get incentives from big companies (usually with expensive drugs) to suggest their drug to the patients....the incentives can be in the form of many ways (like my friends dad who is a physician gets top of the line electronics as gifts from drug companies like ipad and stuff)
ricksmiths10 1 year ago 3
Trust your pharmacist, not your doctor.
LonesomePaleRider 1 year ago
yeah!! go with the gatekeeper of drugs..pharmacists knows best..hahahha...Im studying pharmacy..jhaha
alanpage100 1 year ago
He's just taking his prescription to another pharmacist
szaer 1 year ago 3
indeed! good choice there.
dpoet19 1 year ago
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay always go with the pharmacist
Md2005Masry 1 year ago 53
haha yayy pharmacist!!
totalgurl123 1 year ago
YAY! PHARMACISTS FTW!!!!! "i'm going with you Mr. Pharmacist!" - awesome!! wooooooooooooooo (yeah, i study Pharmacy) : )
ashleythechemist 1 year ago 2
Always go with the pharmacist!
pharmd718 2 years ago 4