You should know what Amnesty International Germany tells German torture victims:
Amnesty International never ever takes action against the country they are from. My brother Markus Bott had been tortured by the German BND during 5.5 years, even in public. He was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage.
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Menschenrechtsverletzungen gibt es auch hier in der BRD!!! Ich war immerhin 2 Monate in einer deutschen Psychiatrie, und die KRIPO war 2 mal im Haus, nur weil ich seit mehreren Jahren krampfhaft versuche, die Gedanken der Amokläufer zu erläutern, wobei ich mich dabei als Musterbeispiel quasi selber missbrauche. Um Wut und Hass und die daraus resultierende Gewalt in unserer Gesellschaft gründlicher verständlich zu machen, mache ich sehr viele Behörden mit notwendigen Fantasien NERVÖS!!!!
I hate terriosts as mush as Americans, In saying that let me say this. Remember American history and the constitution. In my opinnion there is no greater type of pratiot then A US citizen following the constitution and Bill of rights. What Bush did was nealry destroy the foundation of the US. Torture has never worked in the past present and will never work in the future. Obama is kind, If it up to me the powers that be that wrote the torture memos with be in jail!!!!!!!!!!
Barrack Obama claimed to shut down guantanomo bay within a year. it has still not been done torture still happens despite what America says and they recently released 50 prisoners into bermuda without permision from the UK government so now they have almost all been kicked out and have no where to live. if they didnt take random people in the first place none of this would have happened, not just in Bermuda but the canaries' as well. this whole guantanomo thing is mass-hysteria.
The Constitution was written by and for 'We the people" and dedicated to "ourselves and our posterity," All of the 55 delegates that met in Philadelphia to draft the Constitution and all of the members of the 13 state conventions that ratified it were of the White race.
I think it's fucking sick how people hear one bad thing about a country and decide to condem everyone in it. I highly doubt most Americans agree to torture. Most don't even like the death penalty! The Chinese government is doing horrible things to their ppl right now and I would never say fuck China. Not everybody in a country thinks like or agrees with their government. Start looking at people individually, instead of hating an entire country,
That's not the point. Amnesty is not knocking down an entire nation. It is just denouncing the non democratic practices of a goverment. Of course not all americans are tossers.
I think your confused about my comment a bit. I wasn't referring to the actual video with my comment. I had replied to someones comment because they were saying Americans were basically horrible people. Instead of condemning a "bad government" they were condemning the people, who many times have no choice. I usually type (name) before a direct comment.
Why is it that Amnesty International still does not have a single video ANYWHERE on the internet condemning the teachings of Islamic supremacy, brutality, anti-Semitism and terror?
Why do they only make videos that condemn the non-lethal tactics we've used sparingly and successfully to prevent further terrorist attacks on this country?
Why are they mentally and morally incapable of accepting, even after 9/11, London and Madrid, the threat we still face, and what must be done to stop it?
You don't have to be vindictive. The problem is a bit more complex. It is actually complexity that makes up human nature. If westen democracies want to teach people lessons on democracy and human rights they should clean up their own backyard first. Furthermore, I have never said I had sympathy for terrorists. I just think that if you claim to be civilized you should not deny prisoners of war their basic human rights. Treat people the way you want to be treated.
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They are not prisoners of war - they are captured terrorists. They have no rights under the Geneva or Hague conventions.
This problem is not that complex. These lowlives are a threat to millions of innocent people.
There is a Red Cross facility at Gitmo that regularly chechs on the detainees there. It's been at Gitmo for years. They have never reported any mistreatment of enemy combatants.
Of course that hasn't stifled the Left's paranoia.
So if I understand right these people, because they are not prisoners of war and come under no legal protection can be ill treated? Well the democracy you defend has unfortunately lost touch with its basic principles.
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No...I said monsters, not people.
In order to qualify for protection under the Geneva convention, captured 'soldiers', let's say, must wear some sort of uniform, armband or insignia distinguishing them as to their 'affiliation', they must OPENLY carry their weapons, and they must NEVER deliberately target and murder innocent civilians.
As I said, terrorists do not qualify for Geneva convention protections.
They could have legally been summarily executed on the battlefield upon capture.
two people from britain were held an tortured and were innocent.Maybe you will be on holiday(if you were to travel outside US which would broaden your outlook)and get captured
What would really 'broaden my outlook' would be if the global Left could actually wind down their hysteria, and accept that our governments MUST pursue and engage terrorists before they strike, including the detainment and occasional mistreatment of some highly suspect detainees.
If the suspects are proven innocent the government has to answer for it, but the pursuit of terrorists can never cease.
Start broadening your outlook by experiencing how the majority of the rest of the civilised world lives,its clear to me(and judging by the negative marks your comments recieve)and others that you are just a victim of your media spin.Of coure one must defend ones country but invading other countries killing people taking oil and leaving is going to provoke.Whom is terrorising whom?
Occasional mistreatment!! Lol I just realised your a nutter arnt you?
If it had been, we would've had special forces teams confiscate the oil fields, then placed an armored cordon of tanks and humvees to surround the oil fields, convoy the oil under heavy guard and close air support to Basra, put the oil into tankers, and finally escort them out of the region with U.S. navy carrier battle groups.
why would they have to go to such security lengths to get oil out when they own the country militarily speaking,they have overthrown their military,government civilians on curfu,shoot on sight policy.
not for oil?because s hussain was a tyrant? robert mugabe is a tyrant on a larger scale but noone is rushing into zimbabwe to save pepole because it has no assets to strip,Iran next possibly?make sense economically wouldnt it!
Wouldn't it make sense - since oil was the priority for going into Iraq in the first place, according to you - to secure, guard, and then transport the oil out of the country?
Did they really go to all that trouble just to look at the oil fields, or to use them?
Why aren't George W. Bush and Dick Cheney billionaires?
Are U.N. resolutions to be ignored, or enforced? At what point do we say the U.N. must act, or be disregarded?
the country capitalized from the oil,although dodgy dealings authourising companies to work rebuilding iraq will secure them a bright future,by the way it is quite public that iraq are paying for all our trouble in oil
the un assembley rejected the idea of invading and had the audasity to invade before a vote on wmd,which were lies, and now tony blair is,today, facing an enquiry into le legality of the war.
The Iraqi gov't has vowed to repay the U.S. for the cost of the war, although they might not finish paying for it until after we're both in the ground.
Contractors from all over the world are working in Iraq for the business - the money.
In President Bill Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address - which is on YouTube - he said that Saddam Hussein had spent the better part of the 1990's seeking and developing WMDs.
This happened years before you ever HEARD of George W. Bush.
re; iraq was invaded!! the iraqi people were against it,the people did not vow to repay,it was inforced on them,they took over the country or why were people fighting against them?it wasnt just the military.
I think you will find british and US are the contractors,I travel the world and there are loads of expats mopping up the gravy and the people that hire them.
what WMD?
US and British casualties are just pawns my friend
robert mugarbe ,,I would be interesed in your comments,as i think you are a young psuedo intellect,what would your thoughts would be on stopping his reigim,or are your views predictably patrioticly insular?
I'm 46 years old, which makes YOU the young pseudo intellectual, thank you.
Robert Mugabe is just another Marxist dictator, no different than Hugo Chavez or Kim Jung Il except geographically, who plunders and confiscates properties and businesses from others to give to his pals.
Mugabe also executes homosexuals and recently went to Copenhagen to demand millions in carbon credit compensations from industrial nations, LOL.
very well researched but arnt you avoiding questions,i think we can both agree on one thing and that is there are many other countries whose people need help for persecution now,the reasons for not helping are geo-political.
still no wmd!!!!!!!
Is it safe to say you are right wing?
Amnesty international highlight US brutality because the US condones this type of treatment in other countries,it is the superpower who is supposed to be policing the world dont do as I do ,do what I say situation
Hussain didnt claim to have WMD,British and US intel.claimed he had them and could deploy them in 45 mins.the whole invasion hinged on just that.
Was S.H. a terrorist?
Terrorism:"the use of thraets or violence for political purposes".
whom is terrorising whom?
were they a threat to you or I?
Thats some GDP!!! and no free national health..amazing..and WHO says 1 in 10 people in US dont know where the next meal is coming from,that my friend costitutes a state of emergency.living the dream?
I don't know anyone starving and I'm NOT rich. There's halfway houses and welfare for anyone who needs it.
Watch David Kay's videos on YouTube where he said we were lucky we invaded Iraq when we did. Iraq had many chemical weapon and biological weapon laboratories.
Saddam Hussein may not have had any real stockpile of WMDs - but he would've developed WMDs eventually if we hadn't intervened.
Every day in 'the civilized world', police in every country arrest, interrogate, then release innocent people they HAD to question in order to get the truth.
Nothing remarkable about that, but when Americans do that to suspected terrorists, you leftists lose your minds and all aspects of rationality.
North Korea, Burma, Cuba, Iran - these countries abuse their own citizens harshly every day...yet I haven't seen one AI video anywhere on the internet condemning these countries.
Why does Amnesty International ONLY specify the United States by name in their videos as 'engaging in torture' - for sparingly and sanely using physically harmless nonlethal interrogation tactics against terrorists trying to destroy America - in order to save lives?
BECAUSE AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL IS AN ANTI-AMERICAN ORGANIZATION THAT, BY PROXY, SIDES WITH TERRORISTS, THAT'S WHY.
"AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL IS AN ANTI-AMERICAN ORGANIZATION THAT, BY PROXY, SIDES WITH TERRORISTS."
This is what George W. Bush's All-or-nothing thinking has done to people like you. He says that we're either with him or the terrorists, when there are actually people in this world who want nothing to do with this war, and people who want to stop this man from destroying America's constitution and their human rights.
George W. Bush didn't destroy the constitution or anyone's human rights.
And I can think for myself, thank you.
The Left / Democrats were against waterboarding, stress positions, Gitmo, the Iraq war, rendition, monitoring bank transactions, wiretapping terrorists...
In other words, whatever Bush did, you guys vehemently opposed it.
And none of these have been repealed by President Obama, by the way.
So what actions do you recommend to prevent future terrorist attacks instead?
"George W. Bush didn't destroy the constitution or anyone's human rights."
He violated amendments 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 of the Bill of Rights (because Waterboarding and the like ARE forms of torture, contray to what Bush and many conservatives say). He also violated many parts of the U.N. Bill of Rights.
No. Waterboarding is NOT torture - our Marines and Special Forces train in it regularly.
It's enhanced interrogation, not torture.
Bush has never violated the 1st Amendment, since no leftist has ever been prevented from attacking him in blogs, magazines, newspapers, TV, movies, etc. for 8 years straight - to say nothing of all the anti-war and anti-Bush protests.
The 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th Amendments apply to U.S. citizens ONLY - not captured terrorists or enemy combatants.
"And none of these have been repealed by President Obama, by the way."
I admit that I was disappointed by Obama's decision to defend Bush's wiretap policy, but he's also working on other areas. He's closing Guantanamo Bay, he's revealing the "interrogation methods" used during the Bush era, and he's starting to pull troops out of Iraq.
"So what actions do you recommend to prevent future terrorist attacks instead?"
Find the leader of Al Qaeda and end this wasteful war, and do it without any more civilian casualties caused by the U.S. army.
Don't tell me that civilian casualties are inevitable, the army is responsible for preventing any civilian casualties caused by their airstrikes. If civilian casualties continue to mount and the army is no closer to finding the leader of Al Qaeda, then they have to pull out.
i saw it...not many there...why is the war still going on now? it wasnt iraqis who were annihilated it was ethnic clensing by the iraqis and what they did with the khurds and and other smaller ethnic minorities and they still want to do it now.
Isnt it strange we try and enforce democracy and they see a superpower in such a mess morally,who try run their media and make people think they are living the dream but are living in a country that has the worst poverty in western civilisation WHO stats
There are no Kurds in the Anbar province in Iraq, where most of the violence happened through all those war years.
The WHO stats are ridiculous - America's GDP is over $14 Trillion. Even people in low income housing projects have cable TV, stereos, food, some of them have plasma TV's as ridiculous as that sounds - but I've seen it.
Oil companies cannot declare war, no matter how paranoid leftists believe that they can. If America was allowed to drill for oil in our own country, we'd be OK.
the reason amnesty international has not been there for fetuses who were denied life by abortion is because scientifically speaking, a fetus is not alive and amnesty international tends to go by proper definitions. It is also an organization designed to protect the rights of living humans not of unconscious beings that will one day become humans. Also denying a woman control over her own body is taking away her human rights and amnesty international is for defending human rights
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amnesty international should go to hell, because they only alk about how america denied people their rights but they never talk about some soldiers is captured and has his fingers broken off just because the terrorists "feel like it"
That's silly. Of course it's alive. No one can "scientifically" dispute that fact... it is alive. It has its own heartbeat, brain waves, etc. It is not a question of being 'alive', it is a question of being a 'person'. A fetus is not a person yet.
umm, scientifically speaking a fetus IS alive, and its debateable as to whether a fetus is a human being or not. but pls go and learn sumthing before spouting trash, a fetus is alive, no doc will deny that
yes denying women control of body is breachng her rights, but if you considr a fetus a human being of equal worth, unles endangring her life, then its also a breach of human rights by enforcng abortion
8wk fetus has eyes, fingers, heartbeat, for sum this makes it human being
When liberating the prisoners at Dachau, US troops disgusted at what they saw and the pleads of ignorance by locals dragged the local Germans and forced them to see what their beloved NAZI regime had been doing. Perhaps many in this video need the same treatment. No more "innocent" onlookers, Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil does not go.
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screw amnesty usa, if you dont like the county get the hell out. i bet you dont know that when the enemy captures a us soldier they cut his head off with a dull butter knife after months of terrible tourture, or to make dieing very painful and slowly they drill holes in their neck with a power drill so they die of suffocation after 6 hours of the drilling. so screw you amnesty and die!
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Thats just it, friend. I spend two years in Germany back in the 80's and travelled quite a bit. Apparently after 9/11, we did learn from them. We learned well. This is how the game is played, as deplorable as it is.
i am assuming that 'game' is a poorly chosen word here and yes, it is deplorable.
but that is not the point. i am no fool and as a victim of a terrorist attack i understand more than you might think.
the imperfection of the world is not however, a reason to legalise evil and protect the people who commit evil. no matter who these people are. you, me, or anyone else.
West Germany, when it was still divided. Bombs went off at least once a week. As horrible as it is, we learned alot from that.Torture some guy and maybe save 100 people from a bomb in an airport. The lesser of the two evils. Sucks, but true. Be nice to change it tho.
you know I really understand the temptation to sacrifice 1 person to save 10, 100, 1000, etc. but it is still wrong. aside from the moral aspect there is a pragmatic view too.
if one of the essential pillars of democracy is trust of the people towards their government, what happens when this trust disappears? this is the victory of terrorism: to force governments to become terrorist, elitist and secret organisations and thus sabotage democracy from within.
You're preaching to the choir brother, but the only other options include me and my friends with guns or turning middle eastern countries into glass parking lots. NOw if we could get Al Sharpton to go over there.....
How can so many people fall for this bullshit.? These scare tactics are a joke. When you view or hear something like this, please try to at LEAST learn alittle about the subject, before falling for these stupid remarks so readily.
we in the US and the uk have access to information...we are privelaged but so many of us just dont want to know, like the politicians we want to maintain our status quo..but the Govrnment if feeding from our own apathy and is making us more apathetic because they create so much negativity. BUT we DO have the ability to be powerful, if they are able to take our power then i have no doubt that we can take it back...lets stand up for ourselves and others!
Great video! The government does far too much snooping (on us). There are many good people and the GOV SPIES on them making us feel so low while it's those in the upper rungs of the latter making and doing as they shouldn't. What we should know, the GOV fails to tell us. It fails to tell the truth about combat and everything. If there was nothing they were hiding, they wouldn't be afraid to share what they really do know and do.
Willewert... we've taken great pains to ensure of the accuracy of everything we put out. In fact, we're conservative in judging legislation. I'd be happy to answer any concrete examples of what you believe is incorrect. I'm confident that we can easily back up everything in this video.
I would be able to feasably give you all of the information via this post, if the best evidence to my point wasn't the entire law itself. The articles of the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that you apparently consider to be a legalization of torture is in Paragraph 948r of Chapter 47A and is as follows:
''(c) STATEMENTS OBTAINED BEFORE ENACTMENT OF DETAINEE TREATMENT ACT OF 2005.—A statement obtained before December 30, 2005 (the date of the enactment of the Defense Treatment Act of 2005) in which the degree of coercion is disputed may be admitted only if the military judge finds that—
''(d) STATEMENTS OBTAINED AFTER ENACTMENT OF DETAINEE TREATMENT ACT OF 2005.—A statement obtained on or after December 30, 2005 (the date of the enactment of the Defense Treatment Act of 2005) in which the degree of coercion is disputed may be admitted only if the military judge finds that—
''(1) the totality of the circumstances renders the statement reliable and possessing sufficient probative value;
''(2) the interests of justice would best be served by admission
of the statement into evidence; and
''(3) the interrogation methods used to obtain the statement do not amount to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment prohibited by section 1003 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005.
As you can see, the law makes clear that information gathered from Detainees who were handled when the law (as I stated in my first post, the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005)was in place can only be used if the Judge finds that it was legally gathered under that particular law, as with any other law in any other trial.
It's not that they don't pay attention. It's more like they've been lied to so much that they don't care anymore. Not to mention, a third of the people here think that christ is going to return in their lifetime so it doesn't matter what happens right now.
If more American's were more worried about what is happening in our country and stop being so trusting of our government this would have never happened. Our founders didn't trust the government in whch they created that is why they set limits to it. Seems as though America really needs a wake up call. Some have been asleep for far too long.
So, this is Amnesty International in the US?
You should know what Amnesty International Germany tells German torture victims:
Amnesty International never ever takes action against the country they are from. My brother Markus Bott had been tortured by the German BND during 5.5 years, even in public. He was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage.
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Menschenrechtsverletzungen gibt es auch hier in der BRD!!! Ich war immerhin 2 Monate in einer deutschen Psychiatrie, und die KRIPO war 2 mal im Haus, nur weil ich seit mehreren Jahren krampfhaft versuche, die Gedanken der Amokläufer zu erläutern, wobei ich mich dabei als Musterbeispiel quasi selber missbrauche. Um Wut und Hass und die daraus resultierende Gewalt in unserer Gesellschaft gründlicher verständlich zu machen, mache ich sehr viele Behörden mit notwendigen Fantasien NERVÖS!!!!
Mann1979HH 1 year ago
I hate terriosts as mush as Americans, In saying that let me say this. Remember American history and the constitution. In my opinnion there is no greater type of pratiot then A US citizen following the constitution and Bill of rights. What Bush did was nealry destroy the foundation of the US. Torture has never worked in the past present and will never work in the future. Obama is kind, If it up to me the powers that be that wrote the torture memos with be in jail!!!!!!!!!!
MrAlland88 1 year ago
Barrack Obama claimed to shut down guantanomo bay within a year. it has still not been done torture still happens despite what America says and they recently released 50 prisoners into bermuda without permision from the UK government so now they have almost all been kicked out and have no where to live. if they didnt take random people in the first place none of this would have happened, not just in Bermuda but the canaries' as well. this whole guantanomo thing is mass-hysteria.
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The Constitution was written by and for 'We the people" and dedicated to "ourselves and our posterity," All of the 55 delegates that met in Philadelphia to draft the Constitution and all of the members of the 13 state conventions that ratified it were of the White race.
Govhater2 2 years ago
Wrong! forever wrong!
Firesecret 2 years ago
As for as abortion goes, what about the child's right to life?
Stephie2007 2 years ago
I think it's fucking sick how people hear one bad thing about a country and decide to condem everyone in it. I highly doubt most Americans agree to torture. Most don't even like the death penalty! The Chinese government is doing horrible things to their ppl right now and I would never say fuck China. Not everybody in a country thinks like or agrees with their government. Start looking at people individually, instead of hating an entire country,
tkchaos2000 2 years ago
That's not the point. Amnesty is not knocking down an entire nation. It is just denouncing the non democratic practices of a goverment. Of course not all americans are tossers.
climatechangekills 2 years ago
I think your confused about my comment a bit. I wasn't referring to the actual video with my comment. I had replied to someones comment because they were saying Americans were basically horrible people. Instead of condemning a "bad government" they were condemning the people, who many times have no choice. I usually type (name) before a direct comment.
tkchaos2000 2 years ago
Ok ;-)
climatechangekills 2 years ago
Why is it that Amnesty International still does not have a single video ANYWHERE on the internet condemning the teachings of Islamic supremacy, brutality, anti-Semitism and terror?
Why do they only make videos that condemn the non-lethal tactics we've used sparingly and successfully to prevent further terrorist attacks on this country?
Why are they mentally and morally incapable of accepting, even after 9/11, London and Madrid, the threat we still face, and what must be done to stop it?
joba606 2 years ago
Denying people their basic Human rights?
climatechangekills 2 years ago
No. Denying terrorists the same rights as civilized law-abiding human beings.
Terrorists are NOT 'people'.
joba606 2 years ago
What are they then? fish?
climatechangekills 2 years ago
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I don't know what they are. They do resemble humans, I'll give you that.
But sympathizing with their 'plight' after they've been captured trying to mass-murder innocent human beings is suicidal.
Are the London subway bombings distant memories already?
What do you think the inside of that closed underground subway car looked like after the bomb went off with all those people inside it?
Are they REALLY human beings?
Do they REALLY deserve your sympathy?
Champion another cause.
joba606 2 years ago
You don't have to be vindictive. The problem is a bit more complex. It is actually complexity that makes up human nature. If westen democracies want to teach people lessons on democracy and human rights they should clean up their own backyard first. Furthermore, I have never said I had sympathy for terrorists. I just think that if you claim to be civilized you should not deny prisoners of war their basic human rights. Treat people the way you want to be treated.
climatechangekills 2 years ago
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They are not prisoners of war - they are captured terrorists. They have no rights under the Geneva or Hague conventions.
This problem is not that complex. These lowlives are a threat to millions of innocent people.
There is a Red Cross facility at Gitmo that regularly chechs on the detainees there. It's been at Gitmo for years. They have never reported any mistreatment of enemy combatants.
Of course that hasn't stifled the Left's paranoia.
joba606 2 years ago
So if I understand right these people, because they are not prisoners of war and come under no legal protection can be ill treated? Well the democracy you defend has unfortunately lost touch with its basic principles.
climatechangekills 2 years ago
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The basic principles of my democracy begin with LIFE - then liberty, then the pursuit of happiness.
You have the right to live, and no-one has the right to take that away from you.
The number one priority of any leader in the history of the world has NOT been your civil liberties and rights.
The number one priority is to protect your citizens from slaughter.
Then comes everything else.
These monsters are at war with my country.
They get what they deserve when they're captured.
joba606 2 years ago
You said that these people were at war with your country. Therefore, they are prisoners of war? So, they have rights under the Geneva convention?
climatechangekills 2 years ago
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No...I said monsters, not people.
In order to qualify for protection under the Geneva convention, captured 'soldiers', let's say, must wear some sort of uniform, armband or insignia distinguishing them as to their 'affiliation', they must OPENLY carry their weapons, and they must NEVER deliberately target and murder innocent civilians.
As I said, terrorists do not qualify for Geneva convention protections.
They could have legally been summarily executed on the battlefield upon capture.
joba606 2 years ago
Well... I say people. Because as far as I'm concern monsters are only found in fairytales.
climatechangekills 2 years ago
Monsters can also be found in the two-legged variety.
joba606 2 years ago
two people from britain were held an tortured and were innocent.Maybe you will be on holiday(if you were to travel outside US which would broaden your outlook)and get captured
gazbev 2 years ago
What would really 'broaden my outlook' would be if the global Left could actually wind down their hysteria, and accept that our governments MUST pursue and engage terrorists before they strike, including the detainment and occasional mistreatment of some highly suspect detainees.
If the suspects are proven innocent the government has to answer for it, but the pursuit of terrorists can never cease.
joba606 2 years ago
Start broadening your outlook by experiencing how the majority of the rest of the civilised world lives,its clear to me(and judging by the negative marks your comments recieve)and others that you are just a victim of your media spin.Of coure one must defend ones country but invading other countries killing people taking oil and leaving is going to provoke.Whom is terrorising whom?
Occasional mistreatment!! Lol I just realised your a nutter arnt you?
Bet you own a gun Lol
gazbev 2 years ago
America is part of the civilized world, FYI.
One more time: Iraq was not a war for oil.
If it had been, we would've had special forces teams confiscate the oil fields, then placed an armored cordon of tanks and humvees to surround the oil fields, convoy the oil under heavy guard and close air support to Basra, put the oil into tankers, and finally escort them out of the region with U.S. navy carrier battle groups.
None of that ever happened under Bush.
And no, I don't own a gun.
joba606 2 years ago
i said rest of the civilised world,
why would they have to go to such security lengths to get oil out when they own the country militarily speaking,they have overthrown their military,government civilians on curfu,shoot on sight policy.
not for oil?because s hussain was a tyrant? robert mugabe is a tyrant on a larger scale but noone is rushing into zimbabwe to save pepole because it has no assets to strip,Iran next possibly?make sense economically wouldnt it!
why humvees?just curious
gazbev 2 years ago
You said that the war was for oil.
Wouldn't it make sense - since oil was the priority for going into Iraq in the first place, according to you - to secure, guard, and then transport the oil out of the country?
Did they really go to all that trouble just to look at the oil fields, or to use them?
Why aren't George W. Bush and Dick Cheney billionaires?
Are U.N. resolutions to be ignored, or enforced? At what point do we say the U.N. must act, or be disregarded?
Humvees are armored.
joba606 2 years ago
if not oil what for? (re; mugabea)
yes they did go to the trouble for black gold
the country capitalized from the oil,although dodgy dealings authourising companies to work rebuilding iraq will secure them a bright future,by the way it is quite public that iraq are paying for all our trouble in oil
the un assembley rejected the idea of invading and had the audasity to invade before a vote on wmd,which were lies, and now tony blair is,today, facing an enquiry into le legality of the war.
gazbev 2 years ago
The Iraqi gov't has vowed to repay the U.S. for the cost of the war, although they might not finish paying for it until after we're both in the ground.
Contractors from all over the world are working in Iraq for the business - the money.
In President Bill Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address - which is on YouTube - he said that Saddam Hussein had spent the better part of the 1990's seeking and developing WMDs.
This happened years before you ever HEARD of George W. Bush.
joba606 2 years ago
re; iraq was invaded!! the iraqi people were against it,the people did not vow to repay,it was inforced on them,they took over the country or why were people fighting against them?it wasnt just the military.
I think you will find british and US are the contractors,I travel the world and there are loads of expats mopping up the gravy and the people that hire them.
what WMD?
US and British casualties are just pawns my friend
rober mugabae?
gazbev 2 years ago
As I already told you, Bill Clinton and others warned about Iraq's WMDs years before you ever HEARD of George W. Bush.
Are you demanding the arrest and prosecution of Bill Clinton AS WELL as Bush?
Because Clinton MUST have lied to the American people and the world when he said Iraq had WMDs.
Unless...the intelligence was wrong - YEARS before Bush became President.
joba606 2 years ago
robert mugarbe ,,I would be interesed in your comments,as i think you are a young psuedo intellect,what would your thoughts would be on stopping his reigim,or are your views predictably patrioticly insular?
gazbev 2 years ago
I'm 46 years old, which makes YOU the young pseudo intellectual, thank you.
Robert Mugabe is just another Marxist dictator, no different than Hugo Chavez or Kim Jung Il except geographically, who plunders and confiscates properties and businesses from others to give to his pals.
Mugabe also executes homosexuals and recently went to Copenhagen to demand millions in carbon credit compensations from industrial nations, LOL.
Mugabe is just another Leftist hero.
joba606 2 years ago
very well researched but arnt you avoiding questions,i think we can both agree on one thing and that is there are many other countries whose people need help for persecution now,the reasons for not helping are geo-political.
still no wmd!!!!!!!
Is it safe to say you are right wing?
Amnesty international highlight US brutality because the US condones this type of treatment in other countries,it is the superpower who is supposed to be policing the world dont do as I do ,do what I say situation
gazbev 2 years ago
What did I say about WMDs?
I said that Saddam Hussein fooled the entire world - not just the U.S. - into thinking he had WMDs when he didn't.
The U.S. wants to defeat terrorism. That won't happen by being nice to terrorists.
Yes, I'm a right wing neoconservative Republican.
joba606 2 years ago
Hussain didnt claim to have WMD,British and US intel.claimed he had them and could deploy them in 45 mins.the whole invasion hinged on just that.
Was S.H. a terrorist?
Terrorism:"the use of thraets or violence for political purposes".
whom is terrorising whom?
were they a threat to you or I?
Thats some GDP!!! and no free national health..amazing..and WHO says 1 in 10 people in US dont know where the next meal is coming from,that my friend costitutes a state of emergency.living the dream?
gazbev 2 years ago
More leftist fantasy.
I don't know anyone starving and I'm NOT rich. There's halfway houses and welfare for anyone who needs it.
Watch David Kay's videos on YouTube where he said we were lucky we invaded Iraq when we did. Iraq had many chemical weapon and biological weapon laboratories.
Saddam Hussein may not have had any real stockpile of WMDs - but he would've developed WMDs eventually if we hadn't intervened.
joba606 2 years ago
Bill clinton warned of it years ago?..its on the capitalist agenda..like iran will be..more black gold
do you think presidents run the country?
gazbev 2 years ago
Every day in 'the civilized world', police in every country arrest, interrogate, then release innocent people they HAD to question in order to get the truth.
Nothing remarkable about that, but when Americans do that to suspected terrorists, you leftists lose your minds and all aspects of rationality.
North Korea, Burma, Cuba, Iran - these countries abuse their own citizens harshly every day...yet I haven't seen one AI video anywhere on the internet condemning these countries.
WHY NOT?
joba606 2 years ago
Because you didn't look at their channel hard enough. Amnesty International fights any country abusing human rights.
Idude893 2 years ago
"Because you didn't look at their channel hard enough."
Feel free to send me the links.
joba606 2 years ago
Why does Amnesty International ONLY specify the United States by name in their videos as 'engaging in torture' - for sparingly and sanely using physically harmless nonlethal interrogation tactics against terrorists trying to destroy America - in order to save lives?
BECAUSE AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL IS AN ANTI-AMERICAN ORGANIZATION THAT, BY PROXY, SIDES WITH TERRORISTS, THAT'S WHY.
And what does that make YOU for siding with them?
You're quite a nutter, yourself.
Thank you.
joba606 2 years ago
"AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL IS AN ANTI-AMERICAN ORGANIZATION THAT, BY PROXY, SIDES WITH TERRORISTS."
This is what George W. Bush's All-or-nothing thinking has done to people like you. He says that we're either with him or the terrorists, when there are actually people in this world who want nothing to do with this war, and people who want to stop this man from destroying America's constitution and their human rights.
Idude893 2 years ago
George W. Bush didn't destroy the constitution or anyone's human rights.
And I can think for myself, thank you.
The Left / Democrats were against waterboarding, stress positions, Gitmo, the Iraq war, rendition, monitoring bank transactions, wiretapping terrorists...
In other words, whatever Bush did, you guys vehemently opposed it.
And none of these have been repealed by President Obama, by the way.
So what actions do you recommend to prevent future terrorist attacks instead?
joba606 2 years ago
"George W. Bush didn't destroy the constitution or anyone's human rights."
He violated amendments 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 of the Bill of Rights (because Waterboarding and the like ARE forms of torture, contray to what Bush and many conservatives say). He also violated many parts of the U.N. Bill of Rights.
Idude893 2 years ago
No. Waterboarding is NOT torture - our Marines and Special Forces train in it regularly.
It's enhanced interrogation, not torture.
Bush has never violated the 1st Amendment, since no leftist has ever been prevented from attacking him in blogs, magazines, newspapers, TV, movies, etc. for 8 years straight - to say nothing of all the anti-war and anti-Bush protests.
The 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th Amendments apply to U.S. citizens ONLY - not captured terrorists or enemy combatants.
joba606 2 years ago
didnt violate 1st amendment because it wasnt on us soil
gazbev 2 years ago
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"And none of these have been repealed by President Obama, by the way."
I admit that I was disappointed by Obama's decision to defend Bush's wiretap policy, but he's also working on other areas. He's closing Guantanamo Bay, he's revealing the "interrogation methods" used during the Bush era, and he's starting to pull troops out of Iraq.
Idude893 2 years ago
"So what actions do you recommend to prevent future terrorist attacks instead?"
Find the leader of Al Qaeda and end this wasteful war, and do it without any more civilian casualties caused by the U.S. army.
Don't tell me that civilian casualties are inevitable, the army is responsible for preventing any civilian casualties caused by their airstrikes. If civilian casualties continue to mount and the army is no closer to finding the leader of Al Qaeda, then they have to pull out.
Idude893 2 years ago
"...and do it without any more civilian casualties caused by the U.S. army."
Maybe no-one ever told you this...
The Iraqi people were obliterated by Islamic paramilitary death squads - whom our MSM taught us to refer to as 'insurgents'.
An estimated 3.8 % of Iraqi civilians were killed accidentally by U.S. forces, according to Iraqi government estimates.
That means terrorists killed over 95% of Iraqi civilian casualties who died since the war began.
If that means anything to you.
joba606 2 years ago
iraquis did not welcome intervention
gazbev 2 years ago
'iraqiuis did not welcome intervention'
Wrong. You saw the video of Iraqis cheering when the statue of Saddam Hussein was torn down.
The Islamic paramilitary death squads - wrongly called 'insurgents' - annihilated the Iraqis, and turned the liberation into an occupation.
Which was all blamed on the United States and George W. Bush, of course.
It was classic Marxist guerilla warfare.
joba606 2 years ago
i saw it...not many there...why is the war still going on now? it wasnt iraqis who were annihilated it was ethnic clensing by the iraqis and what they did with the khurds and and other smaller ethnic minorities and they still want to do it now.
Isnt it strange we try and enforce democracy and they see a superpower in such a mess morally,who try run their media and make people think they are living the dream but are living in a country that has the worst poverty in western civilisation WHO stats
gazbev 2 years ago
There are no Kurds in the Anbar province in Iraq, where most of the violence happened through all those war years.
The WHO stats are ridiculous - America's GDP is over $14 Trillion. Even people in low income housing projects have cable TV, stereos, food, some of them have plasma TV's as ridiculous as that sounds - but I've seen it.
Oil companies cannot declare war, no matter how paranoid leftists believe that they can. If America was allowed to drill for oil in our own country, we'd be OK.
joba606 2 years ago
I agree with you entirely, 'climatechangekills'.
ElizaAcheron 2 years ago
i have never supported america.
roflschofel 2 years ago
Fuck amnesty international... ultra-liberal fuck bags.
ragabonds 2 years ago
the reason amnesty international has not been there for fetuses who were denied life by abortion is because scientifically speaking, a fetus is not alive and amnesty international tends to go by proper definitions. It is also an organization designed to protect the rights of living humans not of unconscious beings that will one day become humans. Also denying a woman control over her own body is taking away her human rights and amnesty international is for defending human rights
robbfuckingflynn 3 years ago 3
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amnesty international should go to hell, because they only alk about how america denied people their rights but they never talk about some soldiers is captured and has his fingers broken off just because the terrorists "feel like it"
epidemicstudios 3 years ago
That's silly. Of course it's alive. No one can "scientifically" dispute that fact... it is alive. It has its own heartbeat, brain waves, etc. It is not a question of being 'alive', it is a question of being a 'person'. A fetus is not a person yet.
paolung 2 years ago
robbflynn
umm, scientifically speaking a fetus IS alive, and its debateable as to whether a fetus is a human being or not. but pls go and learn sumthing before spouting trash, a fetus is alive, no doc will deny that
yes denying women control of body is breachng her rights, but if you considr a fetus a human being of equal worth, unles endangring her life, then its also a breach of human rights by enforcng abortion
8wk fetus has eyes, fingers, heartbeat, for sum this makes it human being
ghiz8 2 years ago
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fuck amnesty international their just a bunch of one sided media controled liberal bastards
nuttybar9 3 years ago
without this amnesty thingy,if you go to jail,the guards will execute illegally
Aydee2020 3 years ago
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Amnesty Internationl is shit
carrionsong1 3 years ago
When liberating the prisoners at Dachau, US troops disgusted at what they saw and the pleads of ignorance by locals dragged the local Germans and forced them to see what their beloved NAZI regime had been doing. Perhaps many in this video need the same treatment. No more "innocent" onlookers, Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil does not go.
millertas 3 years ago
Amnesty International can be massive douchebags on occasions.
How the hell was that 'Muhammad Cartoon' suppose to be offensive? It's a freaking satire!!
DeathlyReaper217 3 years ago
America and human rights!!! ...pull the other 1 .
Blackshamrock1974 3 years ago
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screw amnesty usa, if you dont like the county get the hell out. i bet you dont know that when the enemy captures a us soldier they cut his head off with a dull butter knife after months of terrible tourture, or to make dieing very painful and slowly they drill holes in their neck with a power drill so they die of suffocation after 6 hours of the drilling. so screw you amnesty and die!
mrrecon123 3 years ago
Sooooo...you wanna be like the guy with the drill do you?
h8bigbro 3 years ago 6
The human rights in kuwait
see this video please
DEATHROW010 4 years ago
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Wow thats the most biased video I've seen in a while.
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sjkladfasdfjkl 4 years ago
Do you know what bills of attainder are?
Are Bills of ATTAINDER mentioned in the constitution?
Do you know? Don't you think you should?
What are Bills of Attainder?
Google it.
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TinfoilCRITIC 4 years ago
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badboypass 4 years ago
Please fools, this is AMERICA there is no such thing as Human Rihts here. American culture is built on zero morality and zero values.
BeautifulMind111 4 years ago
Actually I don't agree. I think the media wants us to think so, but really the American people are good, their leaders are the one with weak morals.
eneliatarknenah 4 years ago 2
That is what this video is sayaing!
smurkledunk 3 years ago
I've collected a quite a few videos on this subject on my channel. You're welcome to look.
Cuttingtorch 4 years ago
while you debate on the extent and boundaries of human rights and human freedom, these rights and freedoms are being violated.
you think they don't apply to you? anyone can accuse you and you have no right to defend yourself.
you think the measures in place are fine? you think a military judge is the same as a civilian judge?
think again. or better yet learn from other countries who have actually had a history.
reset999 4 years ago 6
Thats just it, friend. I spend two years in Germany back in the 80's and travelled quite a bit. Apparently after 9/11, we did learn from them. We learned well. This is how the game is played, as deplorable as it is.
ChickenMcFuggits 4 years ago
which Germany is that?
i am assuming that 'game' is a poorly chosen word here and yes, it is deplorable.
but that is not the point. i am no fool and as a victim of a terrorist attack i understand more than you might think.
the imperfection of the world is not however, a reason to legalise evil and protect the people who commit evil. no matter who these people are. you, me, or anyone else.
reset999 4 years ago
West Germany, when it was still divided. Bombs went off at least once a week. As horrible as it is, we learned alot from that.Torture some guy and maybe save 100 people from a bomb in an airport. The lesser of the two evils. Sucks, but true. Be nice to change it tho.
ChickenMcFuggits 4 years ago
you know I really understand the temptation to sacrifice 1 person to save 10, 100, 1000, etc. but it is still wrong. aside from the moral aspect there is a pragmatic view too.
if one of the essential pillars of democracy is trust of the people towards their government, what happens when this trust disappears? this is the victory of terrorism: to force governments to become terrorist, elitist and secret organisations and thus sabotage democracy from within.
reset999 4 years ago
You're preaching to the choir brother, but the only other options include me and my friends with guns or turning middle eastern countries into glass parking lots. NOw if we could get Al Sharpton to go over there.....
ChickenMcFuggits 4 years ago
was i really preaching? sorry i can get carried away sometimes ;)
reset999 4 years ago
How can so many people fall for this bullshit.? These scare tactics are a joke. When you view or hear something like this, please try to at LEAST learn alittle about the subject, before falling for these stupid remarks so readily.
victorygirlusa 5 years ago
we in the US and the uk have access to information...we are privelaged but so many of us just dont want to know, like the politicians we want to maintain our status quo..but the Govrnment if feeding from our own apathy and is making us more apathetic because they create so much negativity. BUT we DO have the ability to be powerful, if they are able to take our power then i have no doubt that we can take it back...lets stand up for ourselves and others!
SipsiBach 5 years ago
Please share this before the Neo-Con completely destroy America.
blazak 5 years ago
Great video! The government does far too much snooping (on us). There are many good people and the GOV SPIES on them making us feel so low while it's those in the upper rungs of the latter making and doing as they shouldn't. What we should know, the GOV fails to tell us. It fails to tell the truth about combat and everything. If there was nothing they were hiding, they wouldn't be afraid to share what they really do know and do.
ndiamonds4ever 5 years ago
This is great! Thanks!
foolstwist 5 years ago
This is almost completely incorrect.
Read the Military Commissions Act of 2006, the WHOLE law.
As for torture and a torturer's legal protection, that's a law called the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005.
willewert 5 years ago
What is incorrect? The dipshit can define torture any way he sees fit! That's all that needs to be said. Adolf Hitler has been reborn in America!
pissongeorge 5 years ago
Willewert... we've taken great pains to ensure of the accuracy of everything we put out. In fact, we're conservative in judging legislation. I'd be happy to answer any concrete examples of what you believe is incorrect. I'm confident that we can easily back up everything in this video.
Steve Daigneault
Amnesty International USA
milotube 5 years ago
I would be able to feasably give you all of the information via this post, if the best evidence to my point wasn't the entire law itself. The articles of the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that you apparently consider to be a legalization of torture is in Paragraph 948r of Chapter 47A and is as follows:
willewert 5 years ago
See what I have written below.
willewert 5 years ago
''(c) STATEMENTS OBTAINED BEFORE ENACTMENT OF DETAINEE TREATMENT ACT OF 2005.—A statement obtained before December 30, 2005 (the date of the enactment of the Defense Treatment Act of 2005) in which the degree of coercion is disputed may be admitted only if the military judge finds that—
willewert 5 years ago
''(1) the totality of the circumstances renders the statement reliable and possessing sufficient probative value; and
''(2) the interests of justice would best be served by admission
of the statement into evidence.
willewert 5 years ago
''(d) STATEMENTS OBTAINED AFTER ENACTMENT OF DETAINEE TREATMENT ACT OF 2005.—A statement obtained on or after December 30, 2005 (the date of the enactment of the Defense Treatment Act of 2005) in which the degree of coercion is disputed may be admitted only if the military judge finds that—
''(1) the totality of the circumstances renders the statement reliable and possessing sufficient probative value;
willewert 5 years ago
''(2) the interests of justice would best be served by admission
of the statement into evidence; and
''(3) the interrogation methods used to obtain the statement do not amount to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment prohibited by section 1003 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005.
willewert 5 years ago
As you can see, the law makes clear that information gathered from Detainees who were handled when the law (as I stated in my first post, the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005)was in place can only be used if the Judge finds that it was legally gathered under that particular law, as with any other law in any other trial.
willewert 5 years ago
Not a Surprise! Americans don't pay attention to things that don't directly affect them for the most part. Lazy selfish bastards
pissongeorge 5 years ago
It's not that they don't pay attention. It's more like they've been lied to so much that they don't care anymore. Not to mention, a third of the people here think that christ is going to return in their lifetime so it doesn't matter what happens right now.
mistamustard 5 years ago
It's insane that people don't pay attention. It's ridiculous and if this country got what it deserved America would no longer exist.
pissongeorge 5 years ago
If more American's were more worried about what is happening in our country and stop being so trusting of our government this would have never happened. Our founders didn't trust the government in whch they created that is why they set limits to it. Seems as though America really needs a wake up call. Some have been asleep for far too long.
Tiggs63 5 years ago
The info is vital to us all. Watch it and share it.
skee0023 5 years ago
This is the wake up call we needed as a country. It is truly frightening.
stephgarbe 5 years ago
The wake up call was Sept. 11. But most people just bought the horseshit lies told by the government instead of looking at the obvious.
pissongeorge 5 years ago
exactly! more people need to think for themselves!
pisceschica 5 years ago
Where has Amnesty International been for the many children who have been murdered by abortion??
jgtemplars 3 years ago
Great vid! Very powerful
aliamc 5 years ago
This is great! Very eye opening.
godot73 5 years ago