It's definitely doctored. If the game was THAT much of a mess, it never would have been put into a physical copy (which is how these things get out in the first place)
I think sega should have let you choose if you ha the chaos emeralds in sonic 2 or not and if you pick yes you have the normal intro and if you pick no youhave the surf board intro
what the crap instead of Tails flying super sonic to have knuckles punch the gems out of him he surfs to the island? this intro is way cooler the other one should be for "Sonic 3 & Knuckles" only and they should have kept this one for Sonic 3
I think this is an early Beta version, Originally sonic was supposed to surf onto the island instead of riding the plane then going super. And it seemed liked Super sonic had more of his sonic 2 super sonic sprites in this version then he does in the final. No counter or ring because at the time knuckle's pallet color (his shoes) would interfere with the colors of other game sprites, which could explain him not appearing.
Super Sonic was introduced in S2, so it would make sense that, since they're going to change him, They would probably test this first...
In beta/alpha stages, they make the largest changes first, usually, so that they can perfect them by the time the games come out. Sprites and sound are usually first (because they are what you see/hear, and they are the most interactive peices (if it's ugly or sounds bad, most won't play it).
Sorry,but i can't tell you,since i don't have the ROM anymore,and when i had it back there i hadn't tried to do the level select cheat,at least i don't remember even if i had,as for the debug mode,i've said that it was activated in the bare begining...it wasn't nesessary to input anything like in the final version.
if it had debug, you could've held A&Start to get to level select... if that's the case, you could've seen the rest of the levels (which would explain the note of the CN save file)
Further, I'd like to point out that S1Beta and S2Beta (Simon Wei) and S2Alpha (Nick Arcade) both have level select available, as well as a first level set that repeats once you get to the end...
Actually,in order to initiate level select in Sonic 3 alone without Sonic & Knuckles ,when Sonic appears you have to push up and down (i don't remember how many times) very quickly in order to initiate level select,i've tried at least 20 times and i can't do the code,so even if i had this build,i just can't do the code,by the way,if you hold A & Start,IN GAME,YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE MENU,BUT there is NO level select,i think that you are mistaking this with Sonic 2.
It's possible that since this was the first Sonic game to use a save feature they needed to test whether the stages and sprites showed up. I'm not saying this is or isn't an alpha or beta stage of Sonic 3, only that it's possible there would be dummy saves in such a version to test the saving feature.
Yes,i haven't thought of that.But if one thinks about it,it has logic,and now when i know that this isn't the very first version of Sonic 3 ,since it doesn't use Sonic 2 sprites,it makes sense that they tested the save feature out,if it works.(ironicly since there aren't any levels after Angel Island Zone in the "beta" it doesn't have anything to save,so it isn't known if it works)
Hmm maybe, but still,i was the first one to show the Sonic 3 beta!I think that after my vid. was seen,people started to think that there might be a beta,and they found it,some of the vids. i checked out were even with Sonic 2 sprites,well i guess that the beta version i show here is not the first but a later one,since it doesn't have sonic 2 sprites(except the surfing sonic sprite)!Anyway's i am glad to see that there are more vids. of the Sonic 3 beta!
Yep,since i got soooooooooo much comments (which say that it is a hoax) i've decided to RENAME this to "Sonic 3 BETA HOAX",Since most people say that it is a hoax,and so do i!
...because NO BETA OF SONIC'TILL NOW HAD SUPER SONIC SPRITES,AND ON TOP OF THINGS THEASE SPRITES ARE THE ONES IN THE ORIGINAL SONIC 3!Anyways i really like your thinking!I almost have the same "words" for the "Mysterious" Sonic 3 version!So if you can say more,feel free to comment!
Hmmm,you now,when i kind of think about it, there is much sense in your words,i remember far ago (at least 5 years ago) while i was searching for a Sonic fan game to download,i accidently, saw some screenshots somewhere of a Sonic 3 beta WITH SONIC 2 Sprites!I hadn't thought about this, until you said it!Perhaps you are write!It might be a hoax afterall!But maybe,it isn't the first beta,but a later one!Also,i think that IT IS A HOAX...
This looks very good. I didn't think an intro could be like that. What would be interesting is if there was anything left of the levels sega left out. Like the sonic 3 version death egg (You were supposed to be launch base boss, and that lift doesn't break, it brings you into the death egg) But that probibly is impossiple. Good job
Thus, except someone is able to break into the game, I'll keep on thinking that there should be a clue (any) of S&K in your proto. 5/5 yet and you really got me in!
Can you give me a link for further investigation? Oh, and the surfing Sonic intro is a big rumor so I wanna check out :P
and sorry but the link where i downloded the bin is broken,because a friend of mine told me that he found such a thing!When i googled it nothing appered ,but when he gave me the link it was true!I am going to ask him again if he knows another link but that's 10% for knowing and 90% for not knowing!Anyway i will ask him again,and if he knows i will post it and thanks for subscribing to me!
Quite cool parak! I'm not one of those pro's on Sonic but I learnt to look into small details on games. Without going further, there are two things that made me believe its fake (and you don't know WHAT would I give for it being real)
1-The HUD (counters). It's on all games, wheter alpha, beta or final.
2-I think Sega divided S3 into two games not very far from the deadline, which is shown on the level select of both S3 and S&K.
The HUD counters may not have been made yet,for Sonic 3,plus it's the first release,so counters may not have been planed for the beta,yet because counters from, Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 are diffrent,so if they put the sonic 2 counters,it probrably was going to stay so!Anyway i am saying again FIRST RELEASE,not even Hydro city was made,so it's logical not to have some other things,like counters ,lives,rings,etc.!
Uhm yes. Hope you're right! Still, why there is a picture of Carnival Night on it if not even first zone is complete? And First Releases always feature one or two complete levels, at least the first two for the media to play through and do some review of the game. And not necesarilly the levels should stay on the same order than the final, i.e. AIZ > CNZ.
About the Carnival Night zone ,i also don't know why it's there but when i press start at it nothing happens and when i got the rom it was already there, the other 2 with the angel island saves ,i played, but i don't know about the carnival!
awesome,this is so cool,and i think it is the beta,because the missing sprites are there and can't be inported especially in the intro,though some one could try but it will be glitchy,very glitchy infact,and this isn't glitchy at all!VERY COOL!
yes,the music is from Knuckles chaotix,the 1 level's music is that to be more certain!it probrably was planned the music from K.C. to be the original music but it was changed!And yes it's for REAL!I thoght that there were other Sonic 3 BETA videos,but when i saw that there aren't any,i added it!
this is a epic hack
LukeRulesatRoblox 1 year ago
It's definitely doctored. If the game was THAT much of a mess, it never would have been put into a physical copy (which is how these things get out in the first place)
YeyJordan 1 year ago
the music?
BlazeTheCatLegend 1 year ago
I think sega should have let you choose if you ha the chaos emeralds in sonic 2 or not and if you pick yes you have the normal intro and if you pick no youhave the surf board intro
supersonic7628 1 year ago
This hack implies that the game was scratchbuilt, but it was built off of sonic 2.
Rexeljet 1 year ago
what the crap instead of Tails flying super sonic to have knuckles punch the gems out of him he surfs to the island? this intro is way cooler the other one should be for "Sonic 3 & Knuckles" only and they should have kept this one for Sonic 3
Joemamma69000 1 year ago
The Knuckles Chaotix song is the only good music from the game so it's possible it was made before using the Sonic 3 music team. Makes sense.
Ritchstorm 1 year ago
Interesting info you have, this does look like a beta of Sonic 3 because a lot of stuff is unfinished and Knuckles is not present.
emeryDH 2 years ago
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someuhguy 2 years ago
WELL
Sega couldve made the song for Sonic 3, but they cut out.
Thats a possibility too ;)
FallingDown678 2 years ago
Actually, some of the music in Chaotix WAS going to be in Sonic 3, so actually...
Zawicki1 2 years ago
I think this is an early Beta version, Originally sonic was supposed to surf onto the island instead of riding the plane then going super. And it seemed liked Super sonic had more of his sonic 2 super sonic sprites in this version then he does in the final. No counter or ring because at the time knuckle's pallet color (his shoes) would interfere with the colors of other game sprites, which could explain him not appearing.
DarkPrinceofCrime 3 years ago
Can you access level select/debug menu?
Super Sonic was introduced in S2, so it would make sense that, since they're going to change him, They would probably test this first...
In beta/alpha stages, they make the largest changes first, usually, so that they can perfect them by the time the games come out. Sprites and sound are usually first (because they are what you see/hear, and they are the most interactive peices (if it's ugly or sounds bad, most won't play it).
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Aitamen 3 years ago
Sorry,but i can't tell you,since i don't have the ROM anymore,and when i had it back there i hadn't tried to do the level select cheat,at least i don't remember even if i had,as for the debug mode,i've said that it was activated in the bare begining...it wasn't nesessary to input anything like in the final version.
parak111 3 years ago
if it had debug, you could've held A&Start to get to level select... if that's the case, you could've seen the rest of the levels (which would explain the note of the CN save file)
Further, I'd like to point out that S1Beta and S2Beta (Simon Wei) and S2Alpha (Nick Arcade) both have level select available, as well as a first level set that repeats once you get to the end...
I'd be interested in more research into this...
Aitamen 3 years ago
Actually,in order to initiate level select in Sonic 3 alone without Sonic & Knuckles ,when Sonic appears you have to push up and down (i don't remember how many times) very quickly in order to initiate level select,i've tried at least 20 times and i can't do the code,so even if i had this build,i just can't do the code,by the way,if you hold A & Start,IN GAME,YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE MENU,BUT there is NO level select,i think that you are mistaking this with Sonic 2.
parak111 3 years ago
Since,when you type the code in Sonic 2 ,you have to hold A & Start, on the title screen to start with level select,Sonic 3 DOES NOT use this system.
parak111 3 years ago
This is true, but the Sonic 2 Beta used the level select from S2&K, so I wouldn't doubt it at all.
Remember, it's all the same people...
Aitamen 3 years ago
WRONG! Sonic 2 beta used level select from sonic 1, not sonic 2k.
sonichackman1 2 years ago
It's possible that since this was the first Sonic game to use a save feature they needed to test whether the stages and sprites showed up. I'm not saying this is or isn't an alpha or beta stage of Sonic 3, only that it's possible there would be dummy saves in such a version to test the saving feature.
Bartuccio3 3 years ago
Yes,i haven't thought of that.But if one thinks about it,it has logic,and now when i know that this isn't the very first version of Sonic 3 ,since it doesn't use Sonic 2 sprites,it makes sense that they tested the save feature out,if it works.(ironicly since there aren't any levels after Angel Island Zone in the "beta" it doesn't have anything to save,so it isn't known if it works)
parak111 3 years ago
Not likely, it is a hack. and not all betas don't.
Irixion 3 years ago
Nice Hack!
(w)w(w)s3beta(dot)co(M)
RandomAvatarFan 3 years ago
S3beta just has a pic sonic,tails,knuckles and robotnik and under it it says: Gee I wonder what this could be.How do I get to download it?
linker4544 3 years ago
The music from KNUCKLES CHAOTICS Is playing in the background when the fire starts!
Chacanger 3 years ago
I can safely say this can be stamped with the Prototype Hoax Stamp. :)
XRedDragonClawsX 3 years ago
I prefer him surfing other than the airplane =)
TheChickenWrap 3 years ago
I much prefer this intro.
RetroGameKid 3 years ago
Nice hack! Though it sounds like a two-year old converted the Knuckles Chaotix music.
I wish I could play this.
WeirdSonicFanatic 3 years ago
Hmm maybe, but still,i was the first one to show the Sonic 3 beta!I think that after my vid. was seen,people started to think that there might be a beta,and they found it,some of the vids. i checked out were even with Sonic 2 sprites,well i guess that the beta version i show here is not the first but a later one,since it doesn't have sonic 2 sprites(except the surfing sonic sprite)!Anyway's i am glad to see that there are more vids. of the Sonic 3 beta!
parak111 4 years ago
Errrr... there are some Sonic Advance sounds there...
ChocoboKitsune 4 years ago
there newer were chaotix music in sonic 3(i think) and where da heck is hud?
estlib 4 years ago
Why is that song so familiar, I've heard it somewhere before.
Maybe Knuckles Chaotix?
paladinangelo 4 years ago
yep.
Daniel55679Games 4 years ago
"Sonic the Hedgehog 3 BETA HOAX"
parak111 4 years ago
Yep,since i got soooooooooo much comments (which say that it is a hoax) i've decided to RENAME this to "Sonic 3 BETA HOAX",Since most people say that it is a hoax,and so do i!
parak111 4 years ago
...because NO BETA OF SONIC'TILL NOW HAD SUPER SONIC SPRITES,AND ON TOP OF THINGS THEASE SPRITES ARE THE ONES IN THE ORIGINAL SONIC 3!Anyways i really like your thinking!I almost have the same "words" for the "Mysterious" Sonic 3 version!So if you can say more,feel free to comment!
parak111 4 years ago
Hmmm,you now,when i kind of think about it, there is much sense in your words,i remember far ago (at least 5 years ago) while i was searching for a Sonic fan game to download,i accidently, saw some screenshots somewhere of a Sonic 3 beta WITH SONIC 2 Sprites!I hadn't thought about this, until you said it!Perhaps you are write!It might be a hoax afterall!But maybe,it isn't the first beta,but a later one!Also,i think that IT IS A HOAX...
parak111 4 years ago
how do you get Sonic the Hedgehog3 debug mode NOT ON S&K3?
yuri797979 4 years ago
it's tough to do it.
go to the cheats page of SonicROMs(dot)NET
sonicfan23 3 years ago
@yuri797979 after the SEGA logo disappears QUCKILY press up, up, down down, up, up, up ,up until you hear the sound of a ring
Blitzwing989 7 months ago
LoL, I didn't know debug mode can be that weird. The music is weird especially the first level music.
MarioKartFan4457 4 years ago
very interesting
loukeey1337 4 years ago
watching the cutsence for sonic 3, I know understand why there was a model of sonic on
a surfboard in the final version. As for the
Red Sphere, I think that was just the 3d
animation effect test. GJ on the upload.
segar1234 4 years ago
Where did you get this? Can you put a download link in the description
Redbone112 4 years ago
Sorry but i don't have a link!
parak111 4 years ago
Then can you upload it at MediaFire?
Redbone112 4 years ago
Sorry,i was going to upload it somewhare exactly,but i found that a virus was in the rom and i had to delete it so,i don't have it anymore sorry!
parak111 4 years ago
This looks very good. I didn't think an intro could be like that. What would be interesting is if there was anything left of the levels sega left out. Like the sonic 3 version death egg (You were supposed to be launch base boss, and that lift doesn't break, it brings you into the death egg) But that probibly is impossiple. Good job
Satanrickyuser 4 years ago
Thanks!
parak111 4 years ago
Thus, except someone is able to break into the game, I'll keep on thinking that there should be a clue (any) of S&K in your proto. 5/5 yet and you really got me in!
Can you give me a link for further investigation? Oh, and the surfing Sonic intro is a big rumor so I wanna check out :P
SpiralPegasus 4 years ago
and sorry but the link where i downloded the bin is broken,because a friend of mine told me that he found such a thing!When i googled it nothing appered ,but when he gave me the link it was true!I am going to ask him again if he knows another link but that's 10% for knowing and 90% for not knowing!Anyway i will ask him again,and if he knows i will post it and thanks for subscribing to me!
parak111 4 years ago
You're welcome! I'm very interested in such a thing! Plus, a lot of these hacks are actually awesome so keep going!
SpiralPegasus 4 years ago
Quite cool parak! I'm not one of those pro's on Sonic but I learnt to look into small details on games. Without going further, there are two things that made me believe its fake (and you don't know WHAT would I give for it being real)
1-The HUD (counters). It's on all games, wheter alpha, beta or final.
2-I think Sega divided S3 into two games not very far from the deadline, which is shown on the level select of both S3 and S&K.
SpiralPegasus 4 years ago
The HUD counters may not have been made yet,for Sonic 3,plus it's the first release,so counters may not have been planed for the beta,yet because counters from, Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 are diffrent,so if they put the sonic 2 counters,it probrably was going to stay so!Anyway i am saying again FIRST RELEASE,not even Hydro city was made,so it's logical not to have some other things,like counters ,lives,rings,etc.!
parak111 4 years ago
Uhm yes. Hope you're right! Still, why there is a picture of Carnival Night on it if not even first zone is complete? And First Releases always feature one or two complete levels, at least the first two for the media to play through and do some review of the game. And not necesarilly the levels should stay on the same order than the final, i.e. AIZ > CNZ.
SpiralPegasus 4 years ago
About the Carnival Night zone ,i also don't know why it's there but when i press start at it nothing happens and when i got the rom it was already there, the other 2 with the angel island saves ,i played, but i don't know about the carnival!
parak111 4 years ago
awesome,this is so cool,and i think it is the beta,because the missing sprites are there and can't be inported especially in the intro,though some one could try but it will be glitchy,very glitchy infact,and this isn't glitchy at all!VERY COOL!
HyperSonicEX 4 years ago
Thanks!
parak111 4 years ago
ok and i make typing mistakes
Lucario1423 4 years ago
can anyone tell me what that red ball thing is cas it looks werd
Lucario1423 4 years ago
It's a missing sprite,the same as the surfing Sonic,and you spelled "cas" nad "werd" wrong,it's cause,and weird!
parak111 4 years ago
oh ok
Lucario1423 4 years ago
i liked that intro do you know hoe to do that intro
Lucario1423 4 years ago
No.
parak111 4 years ago
make one of all levels.
JoshuaShockley 4 years ago
What?! o.O
I are fan of sonnic. It had never seen that.
very cool man ;D
StrikerGer 4 years ago 2
Love the intro.
PuntTwilly 4 years ago
oh,and one more thing i,also was very surprised when i saw that i can play with Super Sonic!
parak111 4 years ago
Besides,every game has it's first beta,this is Sonic 3's!
parak111 4 years ago
yes,the music is from Knuckles chaotix,the 1 level's music is that to be more certain!it probrably was planned the music from K.C. to be the original music but it was changed!And yes it's for REAL!I thoght that there were other Sonic 3 BETA videos,but when i saw that there aren't any,i added it!
parak111 4 years ago
Is this for real? There's never been any mention of a Sonic 3 beta before.
It would certainly explain the mysterious surfing Sonic.
RupeeClock 4 years ago
Any reason why the music is different? (not to mention some music from Knuckle's Chaotix)
JoMiFu 4 years ago