Could have just kicked the guy in the shoulder or collar bone..what a waste of motion. The guy is shooting into you with high velocity...use that to your advantage. You don't even have to exert force into him, just post and let your knee or foot send into his should or collar bone. This take down has to be one of the stupidest techniques in BJJ. When trained in BJJ I hated it...it gives the BJJ guy a false sense of superiority...until his collar bone is crushed (8 lbs of pressure).
you know a lot of people talk shit about cheung and grappling but, they fail to realize what he said that made perfect sense.he said okay i know hey i know ( recognized te effectiveness) , you can do that but you do this, you have one move i have one move. he actually struck twice though and maintained leverage. the guys not even looking at him hes so absorbed with that leg. lol
@ronanscreed You're an imbecile. WC is queer and useless in a fight. This fraud's "sprawl" is the worst piece of shit there is. If he tried it at actual full speed he would get shit-owned. Go back to your cartoons and kung fuwie fantasies you masturbating loser.
@xChuckNorrisKickx LOL tell us what you really think. :) I expect most people who understand anything about mma or wrestling/jiu-jitsu know this is a poor defense. Mr Cheung has too much ego and not enough knowledge of take down defense...and embarrasses himself a bit here. Doesn't make him a bad kung-fu guy but stick with what you know. :)
@ronanscreed SADLY THERE is little martial arts in mixed martial arts the sport is tailored to give Bjj the advantage. but on the street anything goes Id rather be a wing chun student anyday. and soon the dream will come true.
Good theory, but a good grappler will shot a double leg, not just a single. Second, where was Cheung's grappling theory, concepts, or techniques when Boztepe threw him to the floor and he flailed like a girl having her lunch taken...? The more I have tried to give Cheung the benefit of the doubt, he comes up with more techniques that he has developed as time moves on. I would respect him more if he would simply admit that he developed his own Wing Chun system, and stop the secret student bit.
Lol the title is too funny. Is master billy going to show us how Emin Botzepe threw him to the floor and started punching his face while he flailed around?
all u have to do is grab his head and twist your hips.
but its alot harder in real life.....you have to feel like your twisting his head completely off before the neck will pop. even then.....alot of people do not die....so keep twisting like your twisting his head off his body.
chop or elbow to back of the neck is actully lil faster.
-Really weak takedown technique first of all...Second of all any blue belt in jiujitsu would own these guys. They just haven't trained it in real conditions...
To je bilo 1999 i William Cheung je pokazivao odbrane od MMA boraca mada imam mnogo vise iskustva u graplingu i rvanju i samom parteru nego sam William, i da bih tu uradio neke druge stvari i tehnike, Ipak uzmimo u obzir da je mnogo star i da je "Grandmaster" pa ga slusamo i vezbamo, ali naravno da se to radi malo drugacije kada je realno! Pozzz
On that clip vith Boztepe and Cheung we dont se the start and the end.Boztepe grappling is very poor on that clip, and GM Cheung was on that place not for fighting,this is his seminar and hi think that is friendly situacion and in that time he was 50 year old man. Hi is my sifu and i am grappler on this clip
Imagine that Mr. Cheung showed an old Shiao Jiao (kung fu - wrestling move) as a defense.
jrippee05 1 month ago
@Wingtsun75 You are correct.
muitobonito113 6 months ago
Could have just kicked the guy in the shoulder or collar bone..what a waste of motion. The guy is shooting into you with high velocity...use that to your advantage. You don't even have to exert force into him, just post and let your knee or foot send into his should or collar bone. This take down has to be one of the stupidest techniques in BJJ. When trained in BJJ I hated it...it gives the BJJ guy a false sense of superiority...until his collar bone is crushed (8 lbs of pressure).
matreyia 6 months ago 2
you know a lot of people talk shit about cheung and grappling but, they fail to realize what he said that made perfect sense.he said okay i know hey i know ( recognized te effectiveness) , you can do that but you do this, you have one move i have one move. he actually struck twice though and maintained leverage. the guys not even looking at him hes so absorbed with that leg. lol
opticannon 7 months ago
much better to give him uppercut by kick when he will step to take your leg..
MrTamerlan1980 7 months ago
sounded like a book theory, the Serbian guys seemed very good
luigiperso 7 months ago
was this after Boztepe kicked his ass and threw him to the ground!
nordique59 7 months ago 2
What isnt being shown here...wing chuns real defense against a tackle is to
1:sprawl-(generally the off angled versions as opposed to direct force)
2: attack the eyes with claw strikes and rakes.
3:use forearm and elbow strikes to the back of the head and neck.
4: use small joint manipulation.
and yes, all of that is not legal in the ring.
WC is not a weak style...it is simply not a good fit for mma. But then neither is the brutal but highly effective Grav Maga.
ronanscreed 8 months ago 12
@ronanscreed You're an imbecile. WC is queer and useless in a fight. This fraud's "sprawl" is the worst piece of shit there is. If he tried it at actual full speed he would get shit-owned. Go back to your cartoons and kung fuwie fantasies you masturbating loser.
xChuckNorrisKickx 4 months ago
@xChuckNorrisKickx LOL tell us what you really think. :) I expect most people who understand anything about mma or wrestling/jiu-jitsu know this is a poor defense. Mr Cheung has too much ego and not enough knowledge of take down defense...and embarrasses himself a bit here. Doesn't make him a bad kung-fu guy but stick with what you know. :)
angelmanfredy 3 weeks ago
@ronanscreed SADLY THERE is little martial arts in mixed martial arts the sport is tailored to give Bjj the advantage. but on the street anything goes Id rather be a wing chun student anyday. and soon the dream will come true.
columbojoe666 3 months ago
That shit wont work against a real grappler. Real grappler will take him down.
kungfuspic 11 months ago
@kungfuspic have to be pretty quick...really quick.
cookiestastegoodinmy 10 months ago
@kungfuspic and agaist some random drunken guy?
criceto 8 months ago
Any high school level wrestler would take them down all day. This guy is stuck in 1980.
tonyvalente 1 year ago
This was silly. Cheung probably should have said, I'm no grappling expert and left it at that.
If however he knows what he is talking about he should probably say the following.
Control distance with finger jabs and quick low kicks to force the opponent to shoot from farther out.
SPRAWL, and try to keep both legs from being grabbed.
demonstrate defenses against the double then against the single
against the single then demonstrate how to get up again if all that fails.
Godsmasher22 1 year ago
Good theory, but a good grappler will shot a double leg, not just a single. Second, where was Cheung's grappling theory, concepts, or techniques when Boztepe threw him to the floor and he flailed like a girl having her lunch taken...? The more I have tried to give Cheung the benefit of the doubt, he comes up with more techniques that he has developed as time moves on. I would respect him more if he would simply admit that he developed his own Wing Chun system, and stop the secret student bit.
boothdos 1 year ago 3
Lol the title is too funny. Is master billy going to show us how Emin Botzepe threw him to the floor and started punching his face while he flailed around?
MueX 1 year ago
@streetfightprofessor Hi, could you point me towards a vid on youtube or some other source that explains how Wing Chun can defend against grappling?
WhirlwindWerewolf 1 year ago
single leg takdown is retarded in a real fight...
all u have to do is grab his head and twist your hips.
but its alot harder in real life.....you have to feel like your twisting his head completely off before the neck will pop. even then.....alot of people do not die....so keep twisting like your twisting his head off his body.
chop or elbow to back of the neck is actully lil faster.
for the ring...jus sparwl
Mantisfist420 1 year ago
-Really weak takedown technique first of all...Second of all any blue belt in jiujitsu would own these guys. They just haven't trained it in real conditions...
089hlj 1 year ago
that explanation was a rubbish
jambi99 1 year ago
To je bilo 1999 i William Cheung je pokazivao odbrane od MMA boraca mada imam mnogo vise iskustva u graplingu i rvanju i samom parteru nego sam William, i da bih tu uradio neke druge stvari i tehnike, Ipak uzmimo u obzir da je mnogo star i da je "Grandmaster" pa ga slusamo i vezbamo, ali naravno da se to radi malo drugacije kada je realno! Pozzz
sifunenad 1 year ago
Evo ovako, video sam još jedan wing chun antigrapling klip.
Evo pogledajte ga ovde Sifu Nenade, isprobajte pa mi kažite da li to u stvarnosti funkcioniše?
Pozdrav
G6600 1 year ago
Now try the takedown defence against full resistance, when we can determine if it is useful.
MonkeyNews 4 years ago
a strike to the back of the neck....... with full resistance .......
wasssuuuppp420 2 years ago
I love Wing Chun thinking about crosstraning in it for close range striking but too bad Mr Cheung had no takedown defence against Emin Boztepe
georgeee1 4 years ago
On that clip vith Boztepe and Cheung we dont se the start and the end.Boztepe grappling is very poor on that clip, and GM Cheung was on that place not for fighting,this is his seminar and hi think that is friendly situacion and in that time he was 50 year old man. Hi is my sifu and i am grappler on this clip
SiFuKoviljac 2 years ago
Awsome!!
What I heard from the Gracie's family I would still consider grappling as efficient in some situtations.
But,I would say the grappler should move away and find the right time to destabilize the adversary.
Thank you.
missiondoe 4 years ago
Pozdrav, Ipak je on star a tu pokazuje i objasnjava i neradi FullPower a mi sad mozemo da nagadjamo sta bi bilo kad bi bilo...
Druga stvar, Cheung je veliki majstor i treba to uzimati sa postovanjem.
Pozz.
sifunenad 4 years ago