SENNA - Exclusive Clip ('90 Japanese Grand Prix)

[1dogeez]

and thats racing iam watching it again

[mattcrash69]

Payback is a bitch, need i say more

[benjenings]

I miss these races. F1 hasn't been the same sense the early 90s

[shrapnelV]

Just in return for 89 season.....the payback

[pisomark]

senna: but trow off prost in a slower corner???

like it or not, this is the most dangerous move done in porpouse in f1 history

[bluemoonshinya]

Revenge.

[TittyTittyBangBangXX]

Did he say break your balls? Lol

[M1ggins]

bang, payback a year in waiting, anyone who slates Senna for this MUST also slate Prost for his blatant ram in 89, otherwise you're just a foolish hypocrite. Senna was shafted by Balestre and Prost in 89 and the tried to do it again in 90, so he gave them some payback.

[pisomark]

@M1ggins the "blatant ram" of prost was done at 50km/h, not risking our life and the life of your rival, after 2 years when sometimes prost has to give up to avoid a shunt with senna doing risky moves (example estoril 88). in the 1990 nobody was triying to do nothing, only prost was trying to beat senna with an inferior ferrari.

at the time i prefered senna, but years of taleban discipline of senna fans, with tons of shit always on the awesome driver who was alain prost, changed my mind

[M1ggins]

@pisomark I very much doubt you were ever a Senna fan. TBH I couldn't stand Senna and was always a Prost fan until suzuka 89 where everything Prost accused Senna of doing he did himself, if it hadn't been for Prosts extremely good friend Balestre he would've been stripped of his title and we wouldn't have had this happening, or Schumacher ramming people off to steal titles. Prost and Balestre were cheats and ruined F1

[pisomark]

@M1ggins in fact i don't say that i was a senna fan. just if i have to choose between the 2 i prefered senna to prost. they were the 2 better driver by a mile, by the way.

prost did a different thing than senna bullyng moves, for one time he did refuse to let pass him under his ultra-aggressive overtakes. senna was a master to the to-the-limit moves, when the others had give up or shunt with him. how many incident of this type have done prost in his career? how many ayrton?

[pisomark]

@M1ggins it was unfair (SUZUKA 89), but i understand prost in that situation.

alain has done a terrific error jumping off the car, instead, he shold be stay in the cockpit and continue the race as ayrton, his car was undamaged.

balestre was a dick, by the way.

prost had done a very brilliant crash, in fact he was still clear ahed of ayrton when they touched, so he was the one who can choose the line, so was a race incident.

very different fron schumy crah on hill or jv, for example

[pisomark]

@M1ggins prost ruined the f1??

this is a huge bullshit!! come on!! i very much doubt you was a prost fan ;)

p.s. in that time they have to pickup only 11 results and reject the others!!

prost had done more points then senna even in 1988.

schumacher has done in this carrer more race incident then everybody in history, and collect more penalty then anyone else. he woulò ramming people off even without suzuka 89, believe me

[M1ggins]

@pisomark you can beleive what you wish, the fact is I liked Prost because, apart from being a fantastic driver, I thought he was honourable, but suzuka changed all that, he had no honour at all, and the first driver I'd seen purposefully ram a competitor off, which as a racer myself I find totally disgusting. If you think Prost was going onto the racing line I suggest you go to an optician, he blatantly aimed at Senna as his line would've cut the first corner by about 4 feet.

[FlyingBoxHead]

@M1ggins Gugelmin,is that you?Just kidding,now what the hell do you race that even requires half the skill these guys had?And honor.Shit senna said it himself,''If you no longer go for a gap that exists,you are no longer a racing driver''.Prost went for a gap,out pops Senna going blindly into the corner having his little bitch fit over the pole spot,he was willing to have a wreck with Prost to prove his point,tell me who had less honor.I loved Senna,every bit about him,this race just ercked me.

[pisomark]

@M1ggins the fact that it was the first time you see that doesn't mean it was the first time that this kind of things happened (ex: jones vs piquet montral 80).

as i said, prost did it in pourpouse, but wasn't disgusting at all, he was well in front of senna, and formarly he still would decide the fucking line he want to do, even cut a little the chicane. what happened after with balestre is the reason why everyone blame so bad prost, but the incident itself wasn't so clearly unfair

[pisomark]

@M1ggins for example in the original english comment of that gp you can hear james hunt blaming senna for the crush, i remember watching the race with friends and parents, and livetime was hard to decide who's main fault.

yes, watching col-minded the replay dozen of times, was clear the fact that prost, more than provoke a shunt for pourpose, was'nt given up at the usual senna extreme manovrue. and, maybe isn't a point, but tell me if senna can do the corner arriving so fast and so inside...hmmm

[M1ggins]

@pisomark who knows, it might've caused an accident and given the title to Prost, the difference is Senna went for the gap and Prost went for the car, after all his whining and bitching about Senna who was the driver that purposefully caused a crash? You also seem to think that I'm a Senna worshipper, not the case, he wasn't even my favourite driver of the period he was in. Prost, on the other hand HAD been, and became the driver I disliked the most

[pisomark]

@M1ggins ok, i undertand and respect your opinion.

by the way this is the only controversial episode in a 14 years career for monsieur prost.

look at schumacher, even in seasons like 1998, without the decisive collision at last race, he did a lot of crash, penalty, he even win at silverstone cutting the line in the pitbox because he has to do a 10 second pen......bleah!!!

[M1ggins]

@pisomark I dislike Prost for what he did, so don't get me started on Schumacher ffs, how he and flavio were allowe to continue in the sport after all the cheating in 94 is a joke. Illegal electronics found, illegally altered refueling rigs and the ram, nothing pleases me more than to see him get pwned by the rather average Rosberg.

[DHSeaVixen]

@M1ggins It should be noted that (on the assumption that both collisions were deliberate) the 89 collision was at a slow point on the circuit. This was at one of the fastest. It can therefore be argued that Senna's blatant ram in 1990 was worse, as he but them in more danger.

[thylegion]

Why this song isn't present in official Soundtrack? :(

[ImFasterThanTheStig]

One of the most disgraceful moments in the history of F1, risking your own life and the life of another driver is unacceptable, for whatever reason. And it doesn't matter at all if he felt guilty afterwards or why he did what he did - no excuses for this farce.

[nunoalmeida21]

@ImFasterThanTheStig The year before!? And what about this race... he did the fastest lap during qualifying therefore he got the pole position. After he was awarded that some pole position a "Mr." ,called Jean-Marie Balestre, decided the first driver on the grid should be positioned on the dirty side of the track. A tinny detail... not upseting at all. And by the way, if you're faster than the stig, i suppose you've watched this... /watch?v=aNmqn3heGgE

[ImFasterThanTheStig]

@nunoalmeida21 As I stated before, it doesn't fucking matter what Balestre did - because what Senna did afterwards is out of every proportion and totally unexcuseable. End of discussion.

[RLHubner]

@ImFasterThanTheStig Out of every proportion in your point of view. Try looking at it as Ayrton would.

[thylegion]

@ImFasterThanTheStig end of discussion is the best way to handle fucktards like you, you fucking disgusting F1 ignorant :/

[SennaHamilton4ever]

@ImFasterThanTheStig If u dont like him go way, nobody is forcing u to watch this. Its twats like u that make me phisically ill!

[pisomark]

@nunoalmeida21 usual mistifycation by senna fanboy.

the pole side was on the dirt in 87,88 and 89

then came 90

senna and others suggested to change the pole side.and the race direction (or balestre, if you want), reject the thing during the briefing sunday. so dirt side also in the 1990

even if you are a senna fan there is no need to twist the reality of the facts

[M1ggins]

@pisomark Actually the decision to switch was agreed, then Senna got pole and Prost 2nd so Balestre switched it

[pisomark]

@M1ggins honestly i don't remember if the thing has gone this way. why they haven't just refused the change, knowing that at 90% senna was doing the pole, if they want to do a favour to prost? bha!

but it can be, balestre was a dick.

forgive me, but i tend to do not believe you by word, as i said senna fan tend to be too much fanatics, and twist the reality. sorry

[GOTMAXPOWER5433460]

Whatever happened the year before doesn't matter that is disgraceful driving and bad sportsmanship.

[RobertNPowers]

Piquet won that GP, btw.

[NOXXism]

Payback is a bitch! But honestly, from where he was it looked like prost didn't seem him and hit him

[TheAntihero6212]

Japanese announcers are the BEST.