Thori Si Siyasat | Zaid Hamid discussing Mumbai Attacks | Part 3 of 6

[vtoov123456]

n who is this news reader..y he had a american accent ?

[vtoov123456]

who is amresh misra ..no one in india knew abt this guy, even in google sum info is available vis pakis blog.

[amiyaranjanbudhia]

This guy is a cartoon, and the program looks like a Lughter show

[salmanicon]

India is playing a key role to destabilize the Great Pakistan. Insha Allah enemy of Pak will be wiped off. Ameen

[abhishek308]

Pakistan will be wiped off the face of the earth.. no no india wont be involved.. yeh saale haram ke paidaish apne aap ko hi uda denge.. jaise jo abhi ho raha hai.. every week i open up dawn website and pray that another blast has happened.. and so far i havent been disappointed.. haramiyon.. apne so called aag mein jhulson...

[rahuls312000]

Mr Ahmed, Please speak like an Asian ( Desi ) and not an American.

When you are so much against the American why are you trying to copy their Accent.

Respected Mr Zaid Hamid, for god sake, in the name of Allah, pehle apne Gariban hei jak ker dekho rather than critising the whole world specially India.

[NinadVaidya]

pakistan is a danger to the world.....this is a land where terrorism breeds...so pakistan should be destroyed soon...and zaid hamid is a muslim pakistani pig that preaches terrrorism....sala pakistani randi ki aulad....islam ka bhosada..pakistan ka bhosada...zaid hamid ke maa ki choot..saali ne zaid hamid jaise kutte ko paida kiya....pakistan ki choot

[03004490277]

Zaid Hamid give all proves about Kasab. you should watch his videos before posting your ediot comments.

Zaid.H is very true muslim, great Ashiq-e-Rasool (BPUH). and big lover of Pakistan. He never say against Islam, Pakistan and Holy Prophet (PBUH).

[ontra1]

Zaid hamid,Ahmed and idiots, and who follow them are bigger idiots. He says Indians were told abt mumbai by CIA two months back, and then he says RAW mossad did that.

He said Kasab was Amar singh and Later on Kasab was found to be from Pakistan.

[123pakzindabad]

It is unusual that this mumbai drama was played in November(11th) month just like US 911

: ) . Stupid dirty Kafir hindus couldn't even plan it well. At least they should have chosen any other month. : )

Just so that they can sit with US and cry 911 and 2311. LOL

[ftandan]

zaid is realy misguiding 'masoom awaam' of pakistan. if apkistan want to survive in this world ,this idiot should be hanged in meenar-e-pakistan.

[POONKAATELEVISION]

r u mad??

[03004490277]

just listen Zaid hamid and you get all answers.. He speaking big truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[canzt2]

Zaid Hamid is just making statements without an evidence. Unfortunately, it may work amongst his followers but not otherwise. He said Kasab's real name was Amar Singh and he was a Hindu. Has he shown any evidence?

The evidence that Pakistan (Zardari, Gilani, Sherry Rehamn, Rehamn Malik, Mahmud Durrani etc) points to Kasab being a Pakistani citizen was officially acknowledged.

It clearly shows Zaid Hamid was wrong in his theory about Mumbai attacks.

[nujz1976]

Zaid H. is a more credible source than all the stupid idiots u have named.

Zardari, Rehman Malik, Durrani etc r just worthless dumb ppl (kinda like u Indians-they MUST b related to u guys)

So we trust Zaid Hamid's word over theirs.

And i don't get it-why r u focusing on Kasab and his nationality?

Kasab's nationality doesn't prove that Pakistan was involved-u ppl r so dumb

u follow the logic that donkeys r mortal, humans r mortal, so donkeys r humans (in ur case that might b true though)

[canzt2]

@nujz1976: I am just trying to expose Zaid Hamid as a liar who a lot of people worship as the new prophet.

Kasab's nationality doesn't prove that entire Pakistan was involved. However, it proves that Zaid Hamid was lying on National TV since he stated Kasab was a Hindu named Amar Singh and it was an Indian propaganda.

With the charge sheets filed against 7 people in Pakistan as reported in Dawn and other Pakistani News agencies on Nov 25, it proves that the plan was hatched in Pak. Get it?

[ssgill78]

@nujz1976 my friend i m not against pakistan nor muslims but zaid hamid is really a big liar in one of his interview he said still in bangladesh people wave pakistani flag cause they love pakistan but its not true the people waving pakistani flag r pakistani citizens left by pakistan over there after the creation of bangladesh they still hoping that pakistan will take them back n they r living in very bad condition. bagladeshi call them bihari. u can find evidence on you tube or google.

[someone19832000]

To hell with Zardari......He is the very person behind his wife's murder. How can we expect him to support Pakistan in such situations? Honestguy, you are right that Pakistani officials did claim Kassab as a Pakistani. But you should also realize the fact such a week government whose agenda is just to make money for themselves will do what America want them to do.....so it is pretty obvious whatever they said was for themselves not the truth.

[canzt2]

@someone19832000: Thx for your comments. 1) So are you saying that Kasab was not a Pakistani and US forced Zardari to acknowledge that he actually was? What would they gain from it?

2) Besides, GEO TV ran a sting operation and interviewed Kasab's villagers. Was that a US operation too or a propaganda by Indians?

3) How about Nawaz Sharif comments earlier that Kasab was a Pakistani ? Was he also forced by US? He is in opposition. Why would he do that?

There is too much evidence available

[someone19832000]

1)I'm nt sayin Kasab didnt go 4rm Pakistan. But think for a momnt; he myt be a planted Indian? yu knw tht 1of de terorst invld in 9-11 attacks ws n engr who gradt from Germany? He was a planted terrorist.....I hope yu got my point

2)2ndly, plz be mature here & thn ans. In pindi and Islambd, thr's a suicidal attack almost daily. note tht attackers are not afraid to kill thmslvs.y is it tht Kassab surrndrd & didn blow him up? It seems to me lyk it was his intentn to get arrested wich seems strange

[Honestguy1213]

Dawn(Pakistan News website, Nov 25, 2009) has the following headline:

ISLAMABAD: A Pakistani court on Wednesday charged seven suspects in connection with the Mumbai attacks that killed 166 people one year ago, a defence lawyer said.

Among the seven, who were arrested by Pakistan over the November 26-29 siege on India's financial capital, are alleged mastermind Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and alleged key Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) operative Zarar Shah.

Do the Pakis and Zaid Hamid still need an evidence?

[Honestguy1213]

Pakistan government officials like Zardari, Gilani, Pakistan's National Security advisor Durani, Sherry Rehman, Rehman Malik had already admitted 5-6 months back that the captured Mumbai terrorist Kasab was a Pakistani citizen.

I don't need to mention anything to anyone. Those who still want to defend Zaid Hamid's comments on Mumbai attacks require no further justification as that will be banging your head against a wall.

[canzt2]

@Honestguy1213: You are already banging your head against a wall. Even though the Pakistani connection to Mumbai attacks has been now well established,

Zaid Hamid will continue to maintain that it was an Inside Indian job so he doesn't look like a fool and being exposed as a liar and so will his supporters.

He is playing with the sentiments of the Pakistani people and has a hidden agenda. I hope they realize soon than later.

[fhussain]

Honestguy, I know why you indians are always so pissed. Sorry grasshopper I would be pissed too if I were you.

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[imtiazmt]

from where things are going, it seems, that just like the samjhota express attack, this attack will also turn out to be an inside job.

[canzt2]

Mumbai attack was an Indian intelligence failure that it acknowledged just like US had warned Pakistan that Bhutto will be assassinated in Pakistan but nobody could save her. How about the GHQ attacks? Pakistan did NOT have enough security in their own HQ to prevent that attack.

Just think about it.

1) Why did Pakistan government (Zardari and Gilani) acknowledge the Pakistani hand in Mumbai connection?

2) Why would they support the claims of the country they hate?

Make your own mind.

[imtiazmt]

If you know something for one month in detail and you dont act on it, its not called intelligence failure. Intelligence failure is when you fail to gather enough intelligence to thwart an attack. In this case however its apparent from the abc news report, that India did have more than enough information and time to go with it! If Pakistan acknowledged a hand, why doesn't India grow up and acknowledge that this couldnt have happened without major help from the inside India, now make ur own mind!

[canzt2]

You are NOT even making sense. Atleast, you made one statement that Pakistan acknowledged their hand in Mumbai attacks which is good. Let's talk common sense here. So what are you trying to say? Did the Indians work with Pakistani terrorists to launch an attack on Mumbai? Help me understand your point.

India has already acknowledged that Mumbai attacks was their intelligence failure. Look at Pakistan, their GHQ was attacked. Was it not a failure at their end too?

[imtiazmt]

that's because you're NOT trying to listen, neither to me nor to the questions raised in this show. Your definition of an intelligence failure is screwed up, you are comparing two events one where there was info one month prior, other where there was no info. You can't compare both. In ur case intelligence reached u, but you failed to act! I wouldnt call that an intelligence failure but a CONSPIRACY! try to answer atleast one question in the asked in the show.

[canzt2]

Yes, I am answering all the questions to prove how hollow their theories are:

1) Pakistan Taliban vowed to attack Pakistan after Mehsud's death. They did attack GHQ and did other bombings and there is nothing Pakistan could do to prevent it. So does this mean, it was a Pakistani government CONSPIRACY to kill its own people? No, this was an intelligence failure and ineffective management. Same happened with India during Mumbai attacks.

Continued....

[canzt2]

2) Zaid Hamid stated Mumbai attack was an Indian inside job. Why did Pakistani government acknowledge then the captured terrorist was a Pakistani citizen and the attackers came via sea from Pakistan to India. Obviously, Zaid Hamid is lying as he is contradicting his own government.

Kurkure died during Mumbai attacks. If Indians agents indeed killed Kurkure as you say, were they working with Pakistani terrorists who came to Mumbai to kill people? Does it even make sense? haha. Full of it!!

[imtiazmt]

"vow to attack" is intelligence as compared to high level information passed on to the Indian Authorities by the Americans that an attack via the sea, targeting hotels specifically the Taj hotel is imminent? listen, take a chill pill, no need to get pissed off, relax, think and then comment. And no you havent answered any question in this show, neither did your analyst who was invited.

[canzt2]

I should have known some of you Pakistanis will continue to live in state of denial no matter what.

Yes, Americans warned India about the attacks and it was a failure of the Mumbai government to take action and hence the CM had to resign. This was a failure and not a conspiracy theory.

You haven't answered my question yet and trying to avoid it. Who is lying? Is it Zaid Hamid or the Pakistani government as Zaid said the attackers were Hindus and Pakistani goverment said otherwise.

[imtiazmt]

yes and some of you indians will also live in a state of denial and continue laying the blames of every terrorism act on its neighbors. Its just not Zaid Hamid who suggested this, but the Indian media reports also reported that they were speaking marathi, ZH repeated that in this show, how do you explain that? how do you explain them saying "Julm", and "Sena", so how do you explain all these questions? its u who is avoiding the questions not me!

[canzt2]

My friend. Try to use whatever brain cells you have left. Just answer 2 questions

1) If you are suggesting that India is behind the Mumbai attacks, why did Pakistan government acknowledge that the captured terrorist was a Paki and the attackers came from Pakistan?

2) Why did US and UN back India's claims? UN even banned Paki organizations.

Hypothetically, If India really did what Zaid Hamid says then they are smarter than Pakis as the world believes it was Pakistanis who were involved.

[imtiazmt]

1) The dossiers r still flowing in from India? This is still an open case Suggestions were given for link, we dont know what that link was.

2) US and UN, the most credible people on the planet right? The same US and UN that led the world into killing millions in Iraq based on false claims that Iraq had WMDs, ya thats credible!

May b u should get serious about this and start concentrating on the real questions asked in this show, i repeated a few myself care to answer or would u like to avoid?

[canzt2]

You are just trying to derail the conversation..

1) Yes, the dossiers are still flowing in to provide extra details that Pakistan is wanting for Hafeez Saeed and others. However, Zardari, Gilani, Pakistan's National Security advisor Durani, Sherry Rehman, Rehman Malik admitted that Kasab was a Pakistani. Durani was sacked for stating the truth.

2) US is Pakistan's ally. If its own ally is backing Indian claims then obviously the impression is that Pakistan can't be trusted. What a shame!

[imtiazmt]

so i guess you have decided to avoid the questions, no problem, as you wish. Atleast I made you think about them. :)

[canzt2]

I have answered all your questions. Feel free to ask any further questions if you like. I have noticed a lot of Pakistanis get really defensive here when put in a spot. Zaid's statements are not verses from Quran. I have already proved that Zaid is a liar. It is interesting to know how you haven't answered my one question yet.

Was Zaid Hamid not lying when Pakistans own government has acknowledged that the captured terrorist Kasab was a Pakistani?

What is your answer to this question.

[imtiazmt]

whatever helps you sleep at night dude. :)

[canzt2]

The fact that you don't want to ask me any questions and want me to refer to show is an indication that your claims are hollow as I have answered all the questions. I am stating all the things here and you keep saying I haven't answered the questions. Why don't you ask me the question?

Why are you trying to avoid my question about Zaid Hamid? I have asked you at least 4 times. That just proves that you guys want to pick and chose what you want to answer. I call that living in denial. GN!

[Honestguy1213]

I have been reading the conversation between

canzt2 and imtiazmt. As a neutral observer, my opinion is that imtiazmt is hesitant to ask the question directly and wants canzt2 to refer to the show.

Also, imtiazmt is hesitant to answer the question canzt2 asked about Zaid Hamid.

[imtiazmt]

thanks for your "honest" analysis, mr "honestguy" :))

[imtiazmt]

seems like you brought a friend! :) and guess what he has a nick "honestguy" hahaha, very originial indeed. go thru my comments and find the unanswered questions. Y in the world would i be hesitant to ask questions? thats ridiculous.

ok einstein, here goes, the simplest of the questions:

someone from interior punjab (pak side) speaking marathi. how do you answer that?

someone from pakistan, speaking hindi, ie "julm", "sena' etc

youtube offers vids. vids are watched, may b u forgot that

[canzt2]

@imtiazmt: I can only be amazed at your stupidity. Is that the best you can do? You are saying Kasab is an Indian as he was speaking Hindi with others. If I say Allah ho Akbar or speak Urdu and do something bad, does it make me a Pakistani Muslim?

Again my counter question, let's just say Kasab was speaking in Hindi or whatever, why did Zardari, Gilani, Pakistan's National Security advisor Durani, Sherry Rehman, Rehman Malik admit that Kasab was a Pakistani? Are they also RAW agents? huh?

[Honestguy1213]

@canzt2 : It seems like you can make a rock understand your logic but not imtiazmt. Dont waste your time on him. His question was so juvenile I must say. If this is the best argument he can give, then you are obviously arguing against someone who is blind as a bat.

[imtiazmt]

juvenile question for juvenile minds, and yet you couldnt answer the juvenile question as well. now you just wanna run away.

[Honestguy1213]

My answer is that Kasab is not an Indian. He might be speaking or using any words that someone can easily be trained to remember. Is that your best evidence?

Here is my evidence.. Zardari, Gilani, Pakistan's National Security advisor Durani, Sherry Rehman, Rehman Malik admitted that Kasab was a Pakistani. If he was indeed not Pakistani, why would they say that?

I am saying this again and again so people can see how you don't want to reply to this question of mine as this exposes Zaid lies.

[imtiazmt]

thats plain illogical, if someone is attacking India, and claiming that they are doing this, because of the "Julm" that the Indian "Sena" did in Kashmir, then clearly he has no problem in showing his identity, y would he speak in slang hindi then? what purpose would that achieve? why would the attackers communicate in marathi? doesnt make any sense, ok so you might say they wanted it to look like an inside job, fine, then why were they carrying their identity cards? and toothpaste made in pak?

[Honestguy1213]

Haha. It is clear you don't want to answer why Pakistani leaders admitted Kasab was a Pakistani? I have nothing else to mention. Continue to live in the land of fantasies and conspiracy thoeries and worship Zaid as your new prophet but guess what? That won't change a thing.

Those who matter already support India's claims and those who don't don't really count so keep replying to continue to derive a false sense of satisfaction.

[imtiazmt]

diffferent pieces of your own evidence and logic are in contradiction with each other. What ZH has done is merely highlighted these contradictions and put a question mark on them, one year on and there have been no answers.

[imtiazmt]

see thats your problem, when you answer questions with counter questions, it shows you are non serious in arriving at a conclusion. and read my post again and you will find "the simplest of the questions" I asked this question intentionally, judging your intelligence I thought this would be a good place to start.

[imtiazmt]

how would you explain the mysterious circumstances of the death of karkare?

[canzt2]

Zaid Hamid is the one who stated on Pakistani National TV that the captured Mumbai attackers were Hindus according to his sources and it was an Indian propaganda to malign Pakistan that backfired. He even mentioned their Hindu names on TV. The truth that came out later was that Mumbai terrorists were Pakistani citizens and Pak govt. had to accept and acknowledge the truth. UN banned 3 Pak organizations.

Pakis can believe what they want but it is a fact that he is a proven liar. That's all..

[imtiazmt]

The fact is that your own govt doesnt know whats happening in the intelligence and military ranks of their own country, col prohit and his gang are a prime example, you can believe whatever you want but that is fact proven by your own media! and karkare's investigations

[rwarsb]

Actually indians are masters of nautanki and drama.

[premsporty]

he he this porkis are really fools.I feel pity on them.

[vikramsnest]

this asshole zaid said tht kasab was some punjabi guy ....... ..asshole

[nujz1976]

i know u ppl r dumb and have limited intelligence and vocabulary-but atleast try and make sense when u write comments.

[vikramsnest]

it is plain english ... anyways ur own pakistan ambassador to usa said prokis dont understand english

[nujz1976]

u brown sahbs r very proud of the fact that u r slaves to the West. plz hold ur head up high and say Indians kiss the west's ass cuz Indians r sycophants.

there's no shame in not knowing a language that isn't one's mother tongue-but i know u poor Indians think that knowing English means u r educated and will b accepted.

Sadly u'll always b an Indian so the West will always make fun of u and ur accents.

and btw i commented on ur dumbness- if u must say something make it intelligent atleast

[vikramsnest]

lolz seems i pinched u at wrong place ...

[imtiazmt]

khush fahmi!

[imtiazmt]

its not blain anglish, may b mallu, but simblee not anglish! loll

[6380holmes]

Not was!

Kasab is a punjabi guy. Its good to see that indians folow zaid's vidz more than pakis..

good going cuz this is where they can all get there facts straight

Thanks, uploader

[vikramsnest]

dear frnd it has been proven and acccepted by ur own government tht he is a porkisatni ... hope u remember ur national security advisor himself said tht kasab was pakisatni.....

[imtiazmt]

yeh pretty soon u will say that prohit is a pakistani too.. lol... indians wanted a 9/11 of their own, and got shit in the face instead!.. poor souls

[niksaturn]

Asking a Paki to think logically is like teaching mathematics to a monkey. The two simply dont go together. Haha. Pakis dont have a talent for anything else than blowing things up.

So its best that Pakis live happily in the wonderland created for them by Zaid Hamid while the rest of the world takes care of serious things in their country.

[imtiazmt]

again, a totally irrelevant comment, i guess your intelligence doesnt allow you to stick to the point, oh well, i didnt expect anything more!

[niksaturn]

The point is about the stupidity of Pakis (as seen on this program) and I am very much sticking to it. LOL.

[imtiazmt]

oh really, from what I have seen, its your indian analyst who was speechless after every question, may b you should try sticking to that!

[niksaturn]

Imty, I already told you that Indian defense analysts are only allowed to speak based on the fact....not because a clown with a red cap asks questions like...."I heard that Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck are collaborating with the RAW to attack Pakistan. Why is wicked India collaborating with Jewish and Christian cartoon characters? Tell Me, Tell Me".

If you like nautanki can get it from Zaid....dont except it from Indian analysts. I like drama and comedy too, thats why I am a fan of Zaid.

[imtiazmt]

ya so, "i dont know", "i havent seen that", "lets talk something else" is what ur analysts are allowed to do. riiight!!! u make so much sense my son! :)

[niksaturn]

Yes, if an analyst hasn't seen a specific magazine report he is allowed to say so instead of pretending that he knows the minute details of everything that happens in the world.

Indian analysts dont have a red hat they can use as a crystal ball to peep into to magically see everything. LOL.

[imtiazmt]

ur really dumb aren't u?

[vikramsnest]

lolz .. do u remember Mehmud Durrani ....

just google it if u can and u will find ur own porkis paper telling abt it to u ,,,

and then u can decide who is dumb .... btw u porkis are born asshole,....

[imtiazmt]

thanks for confirm that you are not only dumb but sick too!

[vikramsnest]

lolz.... i can understand ur fustration... u porkis are mentally crippled ...

[imtiazmt]

frustration? thats y you keep coming back with zero arguments? thats really original man, you are so smart, so whats ur next reply, let me guess "lolz.. blalbla bla bla"

[vikramsnest]

asshole y dont u jst google Durrani and check for urself...... and tht y i callled u as a fustrated prokis... lolz ..i pity on u ..

[imtiazmt]

so this time u put "lolz" at the end... how thick can u get?