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  • I like the way they show the original haekel drawings in the beginning! When we all know how false they are! so typical for delusional evolutionists.

  • Yes, there should be open discussion of flaws and inconsistencies with the theory of evolution. Otherwise you have borderline indoctrination. Many professors and teachers have lost their job and tenure for merely pointing these things out.

  • @Lisztman88 Which ones?

  • @Lisztman88 The theory of evolution has withstood and passed every test for the last 150 years. There are no "flaws", only gaps which are very rapidly being filled in. Nothing discovered in the last century has disproved evolution. Evolution is a fact. The theory of evolution is the "how" it happens, not the fact itself.  Same with gravity. Gravity is a fact, the theory of gravity is the "how" it works.

  • Not you again Mogley. You dont know anything about science or scientific processes. You write garbage pretending it has meaning when it is not peer reviewed. Your a moron creationist, go troll someplace else!

  • SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)

  • WHAT ABOUT THE STARS? Gravity explains how the order found in the precise courses of trillions of stars is maintained, but gravity can't explain the origin of that order! Did all the trillions stars agree to get out of each others way? C'mon! Disorder in the universe is because of chance, but the order is because of design. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.

  • NATURAL LAWS CAN EXPLAIN how an airplane works or how a cell works, but undirected natural laws cannot explain the origin of either. What about natural selection? Natural selection doesn't produce anything. It only "selects" from what is produced and it only operates once there is life, not before. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, then that species survives (is "selected"). That's all it is! Don't worship it!

  • DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read my popular Internet articles: ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE!

  • DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument for a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed in design or useless.

  • IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!

  • "The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing - is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice." - Richard Dawkins

    Atheism is the belief in nothing, something coming from nothing is irrational, illogical and a scientific impossibility.

    "When you eliminate the impossible, what remains is not only possible, but probable"- Michio Kaku

  • @moonlightbateman I really don't see how disproving Evolution could somehow prove Creationism. Please explain.

  • @gupsphoo I really don't see how proving evolution could disprove creationism. Please explain your premise,

  • It's admitted by the corporators that 95,000 Americans die yearly from easily-prevented-hospital-born­e-staph infections because corporate, allopathic doctors steadfastly refuse to practice the prescribed protocols of infection control. The Hippocratic Oath is a dead letter. The unshakeable/unquakeable faith in the almighty corporate model held by Americans is comical.

  • As it's believed: 98% of Earth's flora & fauna has fallen into the bottomless pit of extinction. Given this: What of chemical evolution and chemical extinction? Is there indeed a chemiatric oblivion? Is there a contemporary absence, or abundance, or balance, of chemicals when weighed against those that comprised the Earth (& Universe) of antiquity? We may guess, but we may not know as no man knows the impetus of life.

  • In Afghanistan U.S. marines are foreigners. To the citizens of the sovereign nation of Afghanistan: U.S. marines speak (poorly) a foreign language; they exhibit strange, outlandish & foreign behavior; they disregard the law; they terrorize the citizenry with their weapons; they irradiate the land with uranium; they act with impunity; they are without honor. [A patriot ALWAYS fights the foreign occupiers of his country.]

  • Dr Marc Kirschner, chair of the Department of Biology, Harvard Medical School, "In fact, over the last 100 years, almost all of biology has proceeded independent of evolution, except evolutionary biology itself. Molecular biology, biochemistry, physiology, have not taken evolution into account at all." Dr Skell wrote, "It is our knowledge of how these organisms actually operate, not speculations about how they may have arisen millions of years ago, that is essential."

  • @moonlightbateman : He's the chairman. A chair is furniture.

  • There have yet to be unearthed on planet Earth viable human ancestral relics that link Man to simian. They should be common. EVERY representation of a transitional link from Piltdown Man to Orce Man have been hoaxes perpetrated by evolutionary "scientists."

  • @FinallyTheNight Where was it you studied at?

  • @FinallyTheNight

    "EVERY representation of a transitional link from Piltdown Man to Orce Man have been hoaxes perpetrated by evolutionary "scientists."

    - Then it should be easy to prove. You wouldn't be the first moron to try though.

  • @nolobede : Where's your gay-pride now?

  • @nolobede

    I used the word "Moron"...

    I rest my case.

  • There are tons of holes in the evolutionary theory. Scott doesn't want them discussed because even she know evolution is a crock.

  • @moonlightbateman Yeah, conserapedia is a decent and worthwhile source. Just like Fox news.

  • @Rundvelt As opposed to atheist propaganda sites and MSNBC? LOL

  • @moonlightbateman You're a troll or a moron. Not sure which. I don't actually watch MSNBC. But any place that would have Glenn Beck as a host is worthy of ridicule.

  • @Rundvelt You do know Beck was on CNN, right??? Probably not. LOL You are the kind of genius that atheist propaganda produces. A close minded, uninformed atheist hate-monger and bigot. Typical.

  • @moonlightbateman Obvious troll is obvious. Next time you should tone down the stupid. It doesn't help you sell your point.

  • @Rundvelt You were the one who commented on something you had no idea about. Typical of a close minded atheist bigot.

  • @moonlightbateman u mad?

  • @Rundvelt u r.

  • @moonlightbateman and if you take your largest world view and divide it amongst the 45,000 different cults of it, you end up being in smaller group than the atheists. As that world view spawned 45,000 cults that can not agree with anything in the bible, you have to wonder how a all knowing god can right a all contradictory book. so as you are in the cult with the llowest percentile, that would make your cult the failed idea.

  • @recyard12x Atheists make up only 2.3% of the world population. Monotheist religions made up primarily of the Abrahamic faiths (Christianity, Judaism and Islam) account for well over 6 billion people worldwide. Atheism- the belief in nothing is a fringe belief help by only a tiny, tiny minority. EPIC FAIL

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  • @moonlightbateman Where did you make that number at anyways? since only 53% of the earth believes in 1 god. that means just about 3.5bil, not 6. its nice to see how you have to add up all the sects and all the religions to justify your belief. so what church do you go to and what's the % of world population of them? if we take those 3.5 / 3 you get 1.1 bil christians, / that by the 40,000 different christian faiths. leaves you with 27,500 christians in your cult or 0% so low can't be measured.

  • @moonlightbateman Yes, because the more people believe in something, the more likely it is. Oh wait, it's not?

  • @Rundvelt Actually, 2.3% of the population (number of Atheists worldwide) falls well within the boundries of a fringe belief. Athiesm is both unpopular and incorrect. Atheism is the belief in...nothing. Something coming from nothing is irrational, illogical and impossible.

  • @moonlightbateman Except that it's not a belief. And the fact that you use the something from nothing argument shows that you haven't bothered to actually look intot he matter. No one says that except people who don't understand the topic.

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  • A substantial number of post materialist scientists are supporting and developing a paradigm based on the primacy of consciousness.Dr. Amit Goswami, Ph.D,Nuclear Physicist- University of Oregon, shares a new perspective within science of the unlimited potential of consciousness as the ground of all being. Google "The Quantum Activist " for more information,

  • god is a jealous, petty minded, desert dwelling, genocidal, homophobic, racist, goat fucking, pointless, outdated, malevolent little shitstabber, or at least he would be if he existed. Thank christ he doesn´t. Now, I figure if I´m wrong, he´ll surely zap me with a lightning bolt pretty soon. I´ll bet my next years salary, I´m still here next week. Any takers you christian, muslim, jewish tosspots?

  • @yatter1 A substantial number of post materialist scientists are supporting and developing a paradigm based on the primacy of consciousness.Dr. Amit Goswami, Ph.D,Nuclear Physicist- University of Oregon, shares a new perspective within science of the unlimited potential of consciousness as the ground of all being. Google "The Quantum Activist " for more information.

  • Atheism is the nihilistic belief in...nothing.

    Something coming from nothing is irrational, illogical and impossible. The odds against atheism and an accidental or unintentional existance are ten to the tenth power to the 123rd power (Sir Roger Penrose, peer reviewed stats) making atheism mathematically impossible.

    Now, please provide peer reviewed evidence that God does not exist.That is where atheism fails.

  • Mathematicians have said that any event with odds of 10 to the 50th power or over is impossible even within the entire time frame of the supposed billions of years popularly assigned for the age of the universe.The odds of an average protein molecule coming into existence by chance is 10 to the 65th power. That's just one protein molecule! Even the simplest cell is composed of millions of them. Atheism is mathmatically impossible. Do the math!

  • @moonlightbateman hey pathetic prick do you understand how that mathematics were done? do you agree with the statistical approach it was taken? if so, do you agree that with the same mathematics and physics theories, there is no need for a god to explain de universe?

  • @moonlightbateman je je its becoming pretty boring arguing with an illiterate like you. I have to work so from the bottom of my hearth: go fuck yourself. And btw there I live is not late. I´m not from the US. The one that is late in his computer is you.

  • @jlompcm You cant even spell "heart" LMAO!!!! Atheists tend to have only average IQ rates, yet have higher rates of suicide, depression, isolation, obesity and are found less attractive by members of the opposite sex- resulting in lower rates of marriage and fewer off spring. Wired magazine has gone so far as to compare atheism with Asperger's Syndrome, a nuerobiological disorder on the Autism scale.Most atheists are argumentative and unattractive.That would include you.

  • OCS acting up again? Take those meds, you are keeping your mom awake, who is in turn keeping me awake...Have another doughnut atheist boy!

  • @moonlightbateman Its clear that you are too stupid, illiterate, fat and boring to argue with you. Its so funny that you imply my need of approval from you, ja ja ja ja, if it happened i´d throw up, that is like I needed the approval of a hobo. Seriuosly, visit a psychiatrist. That´s it i have more interesting things to do, like fucking your mom and daughter. Bye.

  • Mathematicians have said that any event with odds of 10 to the 50th power or over is impossible even within the entire time frame of the supposed billions of years popularly assigned for the age of the universe.The odds of an average protein molecule coming into existence by chance is 10 to the 65th power. That's just one protein molecule! Even the simplest cell is composed of millions of them. Atheism is mathmatically impossible. Do the math!

  • Atheism is the belief in...nothing. BORING!!!!!

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  • @moonlightbateman jeje looser, just two things, 1) i´m awake because is the afternoon here, 2) unfortunatelly my mother died a few years ago, so you can shove up your ass your comments, and 3) english is actually my 3rd languaje, so sometimes when I write fast I misspell, what is your excuse, fat pathetic looser?

  • @jlompcm Nope- you are just a loser. Atheists tend to have only average IQ rates, yet have higher rates of suicide, depression, isolation, obesity and are found less attractive by members of the opposite sex- resulting in lower rates of marriage and fewer off spring. Wired magazine has gone so far as to compare atheism with Asperger's Syndrome, a nuerobiological disorder on the Autism scale.Most atheists are argumentative and unattractive.

  • @jlompcm So I am supposed to pity you and excuse your rude behavior because your mom is dead, you are too lazy to learn to spell correctly and you are a foriegner? Pathetic. Take your sad little excuses somewhere else. Grow a spine, try to have a little dignity and stop with the pathetic excuses for your ignorant and subhuman behavior. What a sad little troll. EPIC FAIL

  • @jlompcm Atheists have higher rates of suicide, depression, isolation, obesity and are found less attractive by members of the opposite sex- resulting in lower rates of marriage and fewer off spring. Wired magazine has gone so far as to compare atheism with Asperger's Syndrome, a nuerobiological disorder on the Autism scale.Most atheists (such as yourself) are argumentative and unattractive.Go ahead, argue that you are not argumentative. EPIC FAIL!!!

  • The great and well-known British scientist Frederick Hoyle showed that the probability of the simplest form of life coming into being by chance is 10 to the 40,000th power. 10 to the 50th power is considered mathematically impossible.You don't have to be a theologian to respect such numbers! Do the math!

  • @moonlightbateman I disagree with the statistical distributions used to do that calculation, since you claim that understand and agree on that, please explain what distributions were made, and if they can be applied to the rest of the physics.

  • @jlompcm jackass they used uniform distributions, and when you change that to normal or chi square the results are very different, do you agree? but since the distributions are part of quantum phisics that leads to the strain theory that states that there is no need for a god to explain the universe. Anything to add illiterate prick?

  • Still waiting for the evidence that proves God does not exist...got it? No? Back to the old drawing board. Atheism is the belief in...nothing.

  • But even bullshit is sometimes interesting, even if still meaningless. Example:

    "Dr. Famous Sociology, PhD in both sociology & statistics, of Princeton's Institute for Advanced Study surveyed 2,000 professors RANDOMLY picked at MIT, Berkeley, CalTech, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Stanford, & Princeton --- these are normally considered world class research universities --- & 1,646 said they believed in a God (Creator of the Universe) & some after life."

    Now, THAT would pique my attention a bit.

  • @HenryDavidT Rice University sociologist Elaine Howard Ecklund surveyed 1,646 faculty members at elite research universities such as MIT, Berkeley, Cal Tech, Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Stanford- asking 36 questions about belief and spiritual practices.. About two thirds expressed a belief in God and an afterlife. In separate work at the University of Chicago, released in June, 76 percent of doctors said they believed in God and 59 percent believe in some sort of afterlife. Does that help? LOL

  • @moonlightbateman je je je, in the early 1900 the vast mayority of the scientis considered that traveling at speeds greater than the sound were impossible. Those citations you write mean nothing. you remind me of the drugaddicts trying to explain why what they do is right ... ha ha ha ha pathetic. or as you write "massive FAIL"

  • @moonlightbateman No. I stated a fact. There is no scientific way to describe what was before the big bang. And I will tell you why:

    Science tries to explain the universe by naturalistic means based on observatons. The matter for the big bang however, was compressed into a singularity, a infinitely dense pocket of spacetime, and it is not possible to observe such a singularity due to the schwarzschild radius, better known as the event horizon.

    I suggest you learn what science actually is & does

  • @Helge129 So by stating that your answer is unscientific, you deny science. You are in fact saying that there are questions science cannot answer. Because your answer falls apart at "What was before that?", Whereas in positing God (an eternal entity) there is no "before", because God is eternal. We know the universe is not eternal, it had a definate begining, thus it is not eternal. You painted yourself into a corner, because you cannot use science to answer your question. Sorry

  • @moonlightbateman No, You missunderstand me. Science can Never tell what was before the big bang. It can be speculated, but the most you can look back in time is I believe 3.5x10^37 seconds after the big bang. It appears time didn't exist, or was tremendously slowed down by gravity right until the big bang.

  • @Helge129 You just stated that answer was "unscientific" in your earlier post (denying science) when you wrote that science could not describe what happened before the big bang. Obviously you do not understand science or you would not give conflicting answers to the same question. Sorry, you failed.

  • @moonlightbateman It is thus not scientific to say anything about before the big bang. I think the most common theory however is, that the multiverse is composed of so called "branes", whenever they intersect, a new universe is born.

    The one denying/not understanding science here are you.

    I do not defend the notion that something can come from nothing - I defend the notion that pairs virtual particles and anti-particles do that, and are immediately annihilated again. Quantum fluctuations.

  • @Helge129 And even then, that's just what I with my limited knowlede about quantum and astrophysics know. I'm a computer geek, not a physicist.

    And I did my research: There is no evidence for god. Believing in him is delusional.

  • @Helge129 So where in the multiverse theory is God eliminated???? I'll answer this one for you, since you have failed pretty miserably so far...God is not eliminated. In fact, an infinite amout of universes makes God not only possible and probable but assured.

  • @moonlightbateman God isn't eliminated by science. He is ignored.

  • @Helge129 Not at all, most scientists,NASA Employees, Military Officers, World Leaders, Doctors, Nurses, Astronauts, Astr-Pysicists, Physicists, Biologists, Geologists etc are believers. Atheists make up only 2.3% of the population, a number consistant with autism and Aspergers sufferers.

  • @moonlightbateman Actually no, most scientists are atheists.

  • @Helge129 Actually no- athats atheist propaganda- atheists make up only 2.3% of the population- a tiny, tiny fringe minority. Sorry.

  • @moonlightbateman Where is the connection between Asperger syndrome and lacking a belief in a supernatural. Are you suggesting that atheists probably have Asperger syndrome?

    Helge129 said that Science ignores God. Not scienTISTS. He's right. Science is about studying the natural world. Since any sort of supreme being is would have to be outside of the natural world it is outside of science.

  • @stoicsquirrel Not at all, God is both natural and supernatural, The God of the Bible is also the God ofscience, medicine and healing inspires countless Doctors, Nurses, Researchers etc... everyday to heal the sick and treat the infirmed. My guess is that some of the people treating you for your OCD were inspired to careers in the healing arts by a deep and profound belief in God.

  • @moonlightbateman The OCD thing was a joke. That aside, what does believing in something have to do with whether it exists or not?

  • @stoicsquirrel Atheism is a belief, the belief in...nothing. If nothing were all there was, why is there something now? Atheism is irrational, illogical and impossible. No need to retract your admission of suffering from OCD, alot of your fellow atheists suffer similiar disorders such as AS. Backing away from it now only makes you look ashamed of being a sufferer, no one here will judge you, only sympathize with you and encourage you to seek treatment:).

  • @Helge129 Atheism is illogical, irrational and mathematically impossible. Atheists make up only 2.3% of the population making atheism a tiny. tiny fringe belief that many now believe is linked to Aspergers Syndrome, a form of Autism. As "Wired" Magazine observed atheists trend to be argumentative, single minded and have unpleasant personalities prone to quarrel. You might want to have yourself checked out...

  • @moonlightbateman So according to you 98% of the scientific community have aspergers? Give me a break.

  • @Helge129 You might want to run that by the "Little Green Men" you believe in...LOL- I told you earlier it would get hilarious, and it did!

  • @moonlightbateman It's mathematically infinitely improbably that aliens don't exist. Hell, we even have a very likely candidate for an alien planet with life on it.

  • @Helge129 LOL- Please keep defending your belief in "Little Green Men", you are cracking me up! LOL

  • @moonlightbateman You are cracking me up too, with your delusional belief in skydaddy.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but about 85% of the scientific community - and all "major" scientists, that is not counting self-proclaimed scientists, are atheists.

  • @Helge129 Sorry, less than 25% of ALL doctors in America are either atheist or agnostic (Answers.com). Could it be the little green men you believe in are telling you another lie??? LOL...You believe in little green men...Hilarious!!!

  • @moonlightbateman Actually atheist are smarter than believers (personal.lse.ac.uk/Kanazawa/p­dfs/SPQ2010OnlineFirst.pdf)

  • @jlompcm Not at all, atheists tend to have only average IQ rates, yet have higher rates of suicide, depression, isolation, obesity and are found less attractive by members of the opposite sex- resulting in lower rates of marriage and fewer off spring. Wired magazine has gone so far as to compare atheism with Asperger's Syndrome, a nuerobiological disorder on the Autism scale.Most atheists are argumentative and unattractive. care to argue the point? LOL

  • @moonlightbateman JACKASS DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF "RATES" YOUR COMMENT IS SO STUPID IS DIFFICULT TO CHOOSE WHERE TO BEGIN. AND ABOUT MENTAL DISORDERS READ (DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS??) THESE BOOKS WRITTEN BY SCIENTIST (CHECK THE DICTIONARY) : Religion: The Etiology of Mental Illness By Henry Jones; Religious Factors in Mental Illness by Wayne Edward Oates; Realized religion: research on the relationship between religion and health By Theodore J. Chamberlain, Christopher Alan Hall... LOOOOOLLL

  • @jlompcm Try reading "The Irrational Atheist" by Vox Day, he does a really good job of exposing atheist propaganda and pointing out that atheists such as yourself are nothing more failed theists prone to obesity, depression, isolation, and suicide (World Health Org. stats ) with umpleasant personalities and a tendancy toward asperger's syndrome and social autism. EPIC FAIL

  • @moonlightbateman another pathetic way to show your ignorance... FROM THE SAME REPORT: "higher rates of suicide among agnostics and atheists should in no way be considered a failure of these belief systems. Indeed, compassionate tolerance for suicide and euthenasia are widely regarded as hallmarks of many secular societies" AND that report was for DEPRESSED patients. I didn´t know theist got depressed, don´t they have skydady to confort them? EPIC FAIL

  • @jlompcm Arguing that you are not argumentative?????? EPIC FAIL- You just proved my point!!!! Keep up the good work- and keep taking your meds...

  • @moonlightbateman je je je, meds? i tought you only needed to pray to skydaddy to get better. hmmm apparently skydaddy is too busy fucking your mom to care of anyone health. je je je pathetic

  • @jlompcm OCD acting up again? Take your meds- your mom wanted me to remind you, BTW she says hi! LOL

  • @jlompcm Not at all, atheists tend to have only average IQ rates, yet have higher rates of suicide, depression, isolation, obesity and are found less attractive by members of the opposite sex- resulting in lower rates of marriage and fewer off spring. Wired magazine has gone so far as to compare atheism with Asperger's Syndrome, a nuerobiological disorder on the Autism scale.Most atheists are argumentative and unattractive. care to argue the point? LOL

  • @jlompcm New study debunks claims linking Relgious Fath and Intelligence."No evidence of a relationship, either positive or negative, between intelligence and religiosity," found Dr. Leslie Francis of the University of Wales Lampeter. There are at least 17 other studies that back up this data. Atheist propaganda debunked...

  • @moonlightbateman WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF THOSE STUDIES?? IN YOUR HEAD? GLEN BECK'S DELUSIONS? WHERE????

  • @jlompcm Feel free to look them up, a simple google search of any key words will take you to the studies, a great starting point is the book "The Irrational Atheist" that exposes atheist propaganda for what it is, an atheist lie.

  • @moonlightbateman ha ha ha, you are so funny, you don´t even know the meaning of evidence. I did try to read that but there is a limit on the amount of bullshit I can take. Read this: atheism.about.com/b/2003/11/18­/the-irrational-atheist.htm. je je je don´t make yourself look such an idiot.

  • @moonlightbateman JA JA JA THIS IS A REAL "DEBATE MAN" IN HIS CHANNEL YOU CANNOT POST EVIDENCE OF THE BULLSHIT YOU WRITE. YOU ARE JUST A PATHETIC TROLL.

  • @jlompcm Someone has debate envy.

  • @moonlightbateman ha ha ha, you are confussing envy with pity. If you are a phd and your knowledge level is not enough to debate with others, who is the idiot?. Look up the word "pity", is important so you don´t mix concepts.

  • @jlompcm His PhD is in "Biblical Studies". Not RELIGIOUS studies, but biblical. I checked around about this guy. He's more of a nut-job than I thought. He actually told a guy, "it is possible to exorcise demons from a distance, so performing an exorcism online is possible". An online exorcism. I don't think it gets any better.

  • @stoicsquirrel Typical atheist, cant defeat the message so you try to take on the messenger. Why are you so afraid of me? I have never claimed to be anything more than a Christian who converts atheists, What is so bad about that? Why are you so afraid of Christians converting atheists? I am just pointing out the obvious- atheism is the belief in...nothing. For instance...You believe in...nothing.

  • @moonlightbateman I believe in lots of things. I believe that my daughter will raise her new son in a loving home, for example (she believes in god, BTW, just not your god). You might want want to clarify what you mean by "nothing". Are you saying my daughter is nothing? You don't even know her. Or me, yet you presume to know what I believe or don't believe. Let's hear what YOU believe. The only person you can know is yourself. You keep trying to tell people what THEY believe. What about you?

  • @stoicsquirrel Atheism is the nihilistic belief in ... nothing. You believe in...nothing. I believe in God. I am a Christian. The difference is pretty clear, You have a major void in your life. BTW-Congrats on having a daughter who does not share your void. My guess is her life is better than yours, care to comment on that?

  • @moonlightbateman Ah. I'm guessing that since you think I have a void in my life that you must have had one. I don't, though. I suppose some people need a higher power to fill some sort of void. Not all people have that void. Is my daughter's life better than mine? Better how? She's just starting out on her own so she's a little frazzled at times. I don't know what you mean by better.

  • @stoicsquirrel People of faith tend to have more purposeful and fulfilling lives, we live longer, have lower instances of depression, suicide, isolation, etc.. (WHO stats). Your daughter (probably) will have more friends than you, deeper, more meaningful relationships and an overall better, more fulfilled life. You should talk to her, you can actually learn from your kids,mine are teaching me how to operate a wii, yours could teach you to believe in God. Try it. What could it hurt?

  • @moonlightbateman I DID believe in God. Then I read the Bible. All of it. I realized that, if an all-knowing, all-powerful God wrote a book (or a collection of books), it would be accurate. The four Gospels can't even decide what Jesus' last words were. If there are problems with the Bible, then I have to assume that what it claims is NOT true. And, since the thousands of other gods have been mostly disproven, why hold on to this one?

  • @stoicsquirrel So you dont believe in God because of your understanding of the Bible??? That is sort of like saying I dont believe in math because math books are hard to understand.  Try going back and reading the Bible in context,- it is a love letter to you from your creator. God loves you, your daughter gets it. Of course she is going to do better than you, she understands that she is loved. God loves you too, pick up that Bible and read what Jesus said about you. Start with John 3:16.

  • @moonlightbateman In context? Are you really going to go there? You think I didn't understand the message? I DO. I just don't believe it. The message is I made you to either suffer eternally of live serving Me eternally. I knew that you would screw up so I pretended to die on a cross so that I can forgive you (something I can't do without a human sacrifice). Yeah, I get it, it's just a bunch of horse shit.

  • @stoicsquirrel So, You are saying that you are infallable????? You reject God because you know better???? You could do a better job???? Come on- thats ridiculous. Your problem may very well be narcicism- you either think you are God yourself or you cant find God for the same reason a burgler cant find a policeman. Which is it? Cause right now all you have is anger, criticism and...nothing

  • @moonlightbateman False dichotomy. Why do you think those are the only two choices. No, I'm not saying that I'm infallible. I'm saying that the Bible is NOT. If it was written by God, shouldn't it be infallible?

  • @stoicsquirrel You are saying that you know better. Where is the evidence of your infallability? You admitted you failed at Christianity and you failed to convince your own child that atheism is correct. That makes you 0 for 2. I would say that for you to find God (again) you have to get over yourself. From where I'm sitting 0 for 2 doesnt exactly make you a winner...

  • @stoicsquirrel Let me help with your summary (I made you to suffer eternally) no- man was created free of sin. Man rejected perfection and paradise and chose evil. (I knew you would screw up) how? Man was given free choice- you exercise yours right now. (I pretended to die on a cross), Nope- Jesus died but rose again (Something I cant do without a human sacrifice). The creator of the universe can do anything. Maybe...You failed at Christianity because you did not understand it.

  • @moonlightbateman "Man rejected perfection and paradise and chose evil" Not according to the Bible. Two people disobeyed Him because He put something in front of them that He KNEW they would eat. It's no different than putting a loaded gun in front of a 3 year old and telling him not to touch it. You KNOW he will.

    "Man was given free choice" Worship Me or I will make you suffer for eternity. That's like saying, "cake or death". It's not really a choice is it?

  • @stoicsquirrel Again, a false interpretation. Man has free will, he can choose good (like your daughter did) or evil (as you did). BTW - The Bible was inspired by God and written by men, had you not failed at Christianity, you would know this.Your biblical scholarship is almost as weak as your grasp of morality and understanding of atheism. You might want to take a class at some point...

  • @stoicsquirrel Again, you claim to know the Bible, but fail to provide Chapter and verse. Are you afraid to pick up a Bible? Come on, if you are gonna quote the Bible you have got to do better than a vague "according to the Bible"...that is just weak scholarship. Does atheism make you lazy too? Chapter and verse man, chapter and verse. Come on, put down the atheist propaganda and think for yourself. Your daughter obviously did:)

  • @moonlightbateman "The creator of the universe can do anything" Yeah...except, apparently, forgiving sin without having some sort of blood sacrifice.

  • @stoicsquirrel Other Gods ask thier followers to sacrifice for them, The Christian God made the sacrifice for his followers. BTW Atheist regimes sacrificed over 250 million innocents (Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Stalin, Mao etc...) under thier rule of in living memory, making atheism the bloodiest worldview in the history of humanity.

  • @moonlightbateman None of those people killed in the name of... well to put it your way, none of those people killed in the name of "nothing". They were after power. What they did had nothing to do with what they didn't believe in. You might as well say that they killed because they didn't believe in Bigfoot...unless they DID believe in Bigfoot.

  • @stoicsquirrel Oh, but they did- atheism was a tenant belief of those all powerful, state worshipping meglomaniacs. Allegiance to the state and denial of God were central to thier core beliefs...end result- 250 million graves in Europe, Asia amd the most blood stained reign in history. It continues today in places like North Korea. Atheism is by far the bloodiest chapter in human history.Another reason so many people reject it.

  • @stoicsquirrel Hope- God can do that too, Go ahead and ask him, better yet, have your daughter do it for you.

  • @stoicsquirrel I think down deep you still believe in God, as a parent of a child you understand how difficult children can be. You are a child of God (just one of the more difficult ones). God still loves you and would love to deliver you from the lie of atheism. Imagine what kind of example you could be to your daughter, what kind of mentor and ally in her growing faith. Take what you learned as an atheist and use it to help her find a deeper relationship with God, Help her to help you.

  • @moonlightbateman I already told you that my daughter does not believe in your God (the God of the Bible). Since she doesn't, according to the Bible, she is worshiping a false god, which is a sin. And, since she doesn't not believe in Yeshua, she will suffer eternally along with me. This is thanks to your God.

  • @stoicsquirrel Is your daughter a Jew or a Muslim? Because both faiths recognise Jesus- a Rabbi to the Jews and a Prophet to the Muslims. Why do atheists always get that wrong? Oh teah- atheist propaganda. You were a Christian- you should know that. Do you think that your failure at Christianity negatively impacted her? Why does she reject your atheism?

  • @moonlightbateman My daughter believes in a god. Period. There is no organized religion that she follows. She has...NO RELIGION. Why do you think she has to follow some set of practices that some book(s) says she has to follow. Those Jews and Muslims that you mentioned, BTW, are ALSO going to Hell according to the Bible since they won't accept Jesus as having "sacrificed" Himself.

  • @stoicsquirrel I believe the word you are looking for to describe your daughter is,,,theist. She believes in God (as do I) and rejects your atheism. Where did you go wrong? Why does she reject your faith? Obviously she looked at the evidence and found your arguments lacking.I would call that another failure for you, You failed at Christianity, and now you have failed as an atheist parent. 0-2 so far, perhaps you should try something different.

  • @moonlightbateman Deist is the word.

  • @stoicsquirrel Deism is included as a form of theism by the most general definition. Does your daughter believe in only one God? If so, then she is a mono-theist.

  • @stoicsquirrel You wrote "My daughter believes in God. Period", I believe in God. Period. Looks like you lost the most important argument to me. Your daughter and I both believe in God. Period (your words)

  • @moonlightbateman Sure. Yet your G