to say that immigrants are more or immigrants are more or less intelligent is is stupid. but i have to say most immigrants cant even speak english what good is that when your living here say they need it more but do my child not need food'clothes etc as well. the muslims give us the most shit because most fucking hate are english. but you cant say any thing because they play the race card ( its racist) and im not but im looking out for my peoples intrests just like muslims' catholics etc does
This if a front people ! We do NOT NEED or even WANT these immigrants in our land. We can and have and fucking should do it ourselves. But most of Europe's lands have been infiltrated by the Zionist Jews who are hell bent on their satanic way of life to end the WHITE RACE, immigration is the weapon against us to wipe us out, it is the truth !
Lost my job today to a Polish who I trained! Thanks D.C CUNT! Unless you will work for peanuts your on your arse! DWJ another person added to the dole! Thanks to this P.C . Government!
No, the truth is different: Immigrants to the UK were given 90% of British jobs by British employers. No one held those employers at gun point - they simply gave jobs to immigrants. And it shows another truth: jobs were available before immigrants arrived, and no one else was interested in to take them. So why do you now surprised?
It's definitley an Employers market. I have a degree in law, i have worked as a teacher in Japan and in outback Australia, i was also a police officer. Yet when i apply for office jobs paying £7ph i get nowhere WTF!
in 1000 years from now the white english man will be near extinct, ok so you dont beleive that, then in 5000 years from now white english man will be in the history books with this same story just like we read about william the conqueror in 1066!
It's appauling whats allowed to happen in the UK for the sake of votes. You'd think a smal island like the UK would have learnt from other counrtys like the USA
@sweetypie000 :D I do to. But the UK is multicultural now, so that will never happen. American's attacked themselves (9/11) so they can go to war and secure their oil line. They are the new British Empire only more evil.
@steveOo0o We did not attack ourselves. That's BULLSHIT. Every single conspiracy theory has been debunked. We were attacked by anti-American Taliban and they freely admit this. People like you choose your perceptions based on what you want to believe. Why don't you sort out your own nations problems instead of spewing out garbage about one of America's worst moments in history. You should have seen it. Your bullshit theories wouldn't get you very far. No government could keep that secret. STFU!
@steveOo0o What a joke! The British created a huge empire at the cost of many people and nations. Kenya, India, the Colonies. The US does not create colonies. Hussein started the wary by invading Kuwait and he was a nutcase. Rather than let a threat grow into a world menace (as the Brits allowed Germany to build up a war machine) we are keeping the enemy weak and destabilized. It may be unpleasant, but 70 million people died in WWII. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
@steveOo0o Muslims are hell-bent expansionists. They targeted Great Britain for a reason .You are too liberal, gullible and you spend more time hating on your ally than dealing with OVER-Immigration. I've known wonderfully friendly, civilized Pakistanis in NYC, but we aren't being overrun. That's just a bad thing that will just get worse if not checked. You are losing your culture.
You should make a distinction between the EU citizens and the non Eu...clearly the ones who came from Asia are having a much greater impact on both economic and cultural enivronments. In 2006 The Sun published and article where it said Romanian and Bulgarian workers would ''invade the island'', rise unemployment and crime and also will bring all sorts of disease such as HIV...how many of that happened to be true?
i suggest we introduce job seeker tax for those employers who employed foreigners. This tax will be use to pay the allowance for the unemployed britons. Say we charge 100 euro per month for each immigrants employed. This will both help encourage employers to hire britons and ease the burden on the state coffers for paying jobseeker allowance.
there are many romanians immigrants in UK..Romanians are gypsies beggars.
But British people are stupid because they allow romanians enter UK..So,Romanians are not affected by economic crisis,because they earn much money in UK..Most of them are beggars,or thieves,so they steal money from British people..
google for Buzescu,a romanian village..you will see what Romanians' houses look like,if you have ever wondered.. The richest Romanians live in Buzescu (Wealthiest Town in Romania)
@TheEuropeanDream You are clearly the most ignorant individual I have ever met. Gypsies came from INDIA to our country almost 2000 years ago, and still they refuse to adapt to our values and way of life.In Buzescu you won't see any Romanians and most of us work very hard for our money,don't bring our families here,value Christian ethics and overall we adapt and contribute to your way of life
The truth is nobody wants to work not even are mp's you work because you have to, if the immigrants can claim it for free then they will, most who come here do if they have children the others work because they have to at first. without benefits even the few lazy would soon be out seeking work or stealing rather than starve but we can not have 70 million people chaseing less than 10 million jobs without benefits the country would brake down as people turn to crime to eat and live....
is it any wonder we have people being videod on youtube ranting at immigrants on trains! people are sick to death of them, they dont give a crap about our country and are bringing it to its knees
Is that English guy a complete prat or brainwashed.So he thinks British people should be forced to take minimum paid wages.So they can pay for all the immigrants who are on the dole.What about proper training for British people who have paid there taxes all there life.Politicions have sold this country down the river for a handfull of silver
Opening up the EU borders for Eastern Europeans was a grave mistake. Even if UK stop all non-EU migrants, they are still facing mass immigrants from Eastern Europe. Basically, the EU sucks.
@Currency84 Its a terrible deal for England because the majority of Europeans can speak English as a second language, so it's easy for them to come here, whereas the average British citizen cannot speak a second language, so we cant go to get employed in their countries
YOU DONT RECOGNISE THE LONDON BECAUSE LONDON IS A TOURIST DESTINATION. SO YOUR GOING TO HEAR TOURIST SPEAKING THEIR LANGUAGE. WHEN YOU GO TO CHINA OR SPAIN ON HOLIDAY DO YOU SUDDENLY START SPEAKING CHINESE....
@wank0r i live down the road from a polish family who the man said his job is to have babies because he gets paid by the goverment so why would he work if he can live for free.I know many romanian immigrants who do the same although culturally they are similar to british.I know muslims here who have degrees and work every day as well as those who collect benefits and either way lazy people are bad for the economy no matter where they come from
@wank0r WELL THAT CAUSE YOU ARE RACIST.The blacks and muslims arrive in lesser numbers and are therefore insignificant in the numbers arriving in immigration. The biggest issue ARE THE EU NATIONALS. They can arrive with out any control and therefore increase the competition by far. Even if you got rid of all the blacks and muslims coming in the EU people will take your jobs.So you now see why being racist is stupid. Cause its an irrational way of thinking, making u more irrational in other areas
The reason why these immigrants are taking these jobs is because the English are fat and lethargic workers. They demand a pay rise undeservingly. They take no pride in their work and therefore do a bad job of it. Look a Corus for example.
The UK is under a capitalist system. That means that if an employer wants to hire low payed immigrants, the he has every right to do so. Immigrants are hard working, decent people who work for their money. The English has a 'me-first' attitude in life...
British people have a reputation for being lazy. You all expect your jobs on a plate for you. Well how about a taste of your medicine and going out and earning your jobs.
@JenniferHL3 You're completely right! We're so fucking lazy! Everyone just expects a job, they don't want to compete or work for anything. Then these idiots get pissed off and start voting stupid parties like UKIP and BNP..
Shocker, five Polish guys living together in one house don't need to earn as much as one resident with a wife and two kids to support with a mortgage. This is not racist as the retards in government would have us believe but reality, and if you keep voting for these corporate wankers you get what you deserve.
Nothing is going to change, they can't control immigration within the EU and they can't renegotiate with the EU as the deputy PM puts Europe before UK, presumably as his pension fund with the European Parliament is bigger.
It's convenient blaming the immigrants of course as the video says, British people, even those who are thick as shit and totally unskilled, think a lot of jobs are below them so obviously immigrants will plug the gap.
Interesting how the decadent liberals in the west import poor people from the 3rd world to do the jobs they think themselves to good to do. Yet they hate it when open minded people question massive amounts of immigration and call us "racists" and "haters". Such shallow, valueless people.
The markets want flexible cheap manpower that's what a Neoliberal govenrment does; give the market what they want. Next they want to derregulate employment laws and crush the unions. So they can take us back to wating in crowded pens at 5am begging for a job without even asking how much it pays. Over a century it took to break their grip on the whip and you morons want to hand it back to them at the first sign of trouble. Cowards.
The BNP have been speaking out against this for years and have been demonised by the media, the elites and the brainwashed sheep that believe them. The BNP are in front of the curve. It's time to wise up and vote BNP
The subversion of a nation through multiculturalism and the destruction by regulation of production across whole swathes of industry.
This is what happens when Common Purpose prevails.
The immigrants will live in sheds and work hard at rates of pay below a level where they will be able to keep their homes and feed their children. Meanwhile the banks and the city continue to feed off the sweat equity and lavish in the new imported slavery.
@pondman27 Multi - culturalism is a ploy to weaken the UK like the Euro as they WANT immigrants to flood into this country. 90%!? There IS NO reason for employers to give that many jobs to them at a time of mass unemployment but they do so because they're CHEAP not BETTER.
And I'm a BETTER worker than immigrants as I work in a charity shop working for NOTHING. I'm doing it for even less. Never hear the liberals mentioning that do you?
@ukipwarrior Why, there are already far too many immigrants here, UKIP will allow even more in.
Do you look at the numbers here now and say "that's not enough".
We are way beyond the stage now where we need to slighly slow immigration down, we have to stop it completely, and begin repatriation to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
education is not great here... aside from in the professions (ie the people who went to the top universities/private schools), most people are not "good workers", I am sorry to say... but still, this is very surprising.
sorry for the mistake
marc16107 1 day ago
to say that immigrants are more or immigrants are more or less intelligent is is stupid. but i have to say most immigrants cant even speak english what good is that when your living here say they need it more but do my child not need food'clothes etc as well. the muslims give us the most shit because most fucking hate are english. but you cant say any thing because they play the race card ( its racist) and im not but im looking out for my peoples intrests just like muslims' catholics etc does
marc16107 1 day ago
immigrants are more intelligent and hard working
laluprasad111 1 week ago
This if a front people ! We do NOT NEED or even WANT these immigrants in our land. We can and have and fucking should do it ourselves. But most of Europe's lands have been infiltrated by the Zionist Jews who are hell bent on their satanic way of life to end the WHITE RACE, immigration is the weapon against us to wipe us out, it is the truth !
EXPOSE IT
JaguarPawww 1 week ago
there was years ago a box office film called "A day without a Mexican" which was so interesting film to think one truth about immigrant power.
bjmedp 1 week ago
Lost my job today to a Polish who I trained! Thanks D.C CUNT! Unless you will work for peanuts your on your arse! DWJ another person added to the dole! Thanks to this P.C . Government!
dwj1982 1 week ago
Coming soon to England: Race wars..!
jamesunit19 2 weeks ago
@jamesunit19 yes i think so
odin19681 1 week ago
So they moan about not having rights when we control them in the Empire, THEN THEY FUCKING DO THE SAME TO US!!!!
Leby980 3 weeks ago
No, the truth is different: Immigrants to the UK were given 90% of British jobs by British employers. No one held those employers at gun point - they simply gave jobs to immigrants. And it shows another truth: jobs were available before immigrants arrived, and no one else was interested in to take them. So why do you now surprised?
WMHythe 3 weeks ago
This is why ordinary British people like myself are becoming racist. No to immigration. Immigrants are a fucking pest. I hate them.
1100HondaCB 3 weeks ago
It's definitley an Employers market. I have a degree in law, i have worked as a teacher in Japan and in outback Australia, i was also a police officer. Yet when i apply for office jobs paying £7ph i get nowhere WTF!
armbar 1 month ago
every 3 rd world skank has come here to suck the tit dry at or expense
shitheel100 1 month ago
in 1000 years from now the white english man will be near extinct, ok so you dont beleive that, then in 5000 years from now white english man will be in the history books with this same story just like we read about william the conqueror in 1066!
jaym406 1 month ago
I think there are too many people coming here to make a better life and finally making life harder here for everyone, It cant continue
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MrNooneseesme 1 month ago
im glad i dont live in britain.
k4n3n1 1 month ago
It's appauling whats allowed to happen in the UK for the sake of votes. You'd think a smal island like the UK would have learnt from other counrtys like the USA
The UK government need to be hanged tbh
sweetypie000 1 month ago
@sweetypie000 WTF are you talking about? Do you even know of UK history.
steveOo0o 1 month ago
@steveOo0o Yes I do. How about you pick up a history book from as near back as the 1870's and show me a photo of a bunch of blacks ?
People forget this country only ever had a handful of blacks and asians in it.
sweetypie000 1 month ago
@sweetypie000 So you're saying you want more immigrants in this country. I take it you're a immigrant then?
steveOo0o 1 month ago
@steveOo0o i want to see them all leave, pronto
sweetypie000 1 month ago
@sweetypie000 :D I do to. But the UK is multicultural now, so that will never happen. American's attacked themselves (9/11) so they can go to war and secure their oil line. They are the new British Empire only more evil.
steveOo0o 1 month ago
@steveOo0o We did not attack ourselves. That's BULLSHIT. Every single conspiracy theory has been debunked. We were attacked by anti-American Taliban and they freely admit this. People like you choose your perceptions based on what you want to believe. Why don't you sort out your own nations problems instead of spewing out garbage about one of America's worst moments in history. You should have seen it. Your bullshit theories wouldn't get you very far. No government could keep that secret. STFU!
germanamericanable 1 month ago
@steveOo0o What a joke! The British created a huge empire at the cost of many people and nations. Kenya, India, the Colonies. The US does not create colonies. Hussein started the wary by invading Kuwait and he was a nutcase. Rather than let a threat grow into a world menace (as the Brits allowed Germany to build up a war machine) we are keeping the enemy weak and destabilized. It may be unpleasant, but 70 million people died in WWII. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
germanamericanable 1 month ago
@steveOo0o Muslims are hell-bent expansionists. They targeted Great Britain for a reason .You are too liberal, gullible and you spend more time hating on your ally than dealing with OVER-Immigration. I've known wonderfully friendly, civilized Pakistanis in NYC, but we aren't being overrun. That's just a bad thing that will just get worse if not checked. You are losing your culture.
germanamericanable 1 month ago
You should make a distinction between the EU citizens and the non Eu...clearly the ones who came from Asia are having a much greater impact on both economic and cultural enivronments. In 2006 The Sun published and article where it said Romanian and Bulgarian workers would ''invade the island'', rise unemployment and crime and also will bring all sorts of disease such as HIV...how many of that happened to be true?
ciprianbest123456 2 months ago
I agree with comment before me
chris77777777ify 2 months ago
i suggest we introduce job seeker tax for those employers who employed foreigners. This tax will be use to pay the allowance for the unemployed britons. Say we charge 100 euro per month for each immigrants employed. This will both help encourage employers to hire britons and ease the burden on the state coffers for paying jobseeker allowance.
lanunselat 2 months ago
there are many romanians immigrants in UK..Romanians are gypsies beggars.
But British people are stupid because they allow romanians enter UK..So,Romanians are not affected by economic crisis,because they earn much money in UK..Most of them are beggars,or thieves,so they steal money from British people..
google for Buzescu,a romanian village..you will see what Romanians' houses look like,if you have ever wondered.. The richest Romanians live in Buzescu (Wealthiest Town in Romania)
TheEuropeanDream 2 months ago
@TheEuropeanDream You are clearly the most ignorant individual I have ever met. Gypsies came from INDIA to our country almost 2000 years ago, and still they refuse to adapt to our values and way of life.In Buzescu you won't see any Romanians and most of us work very hard for our money,don't bring our families here,value Christian ethics and overall we adapt and contribute to your way of life
ciprianbest123456 2 months ago
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@ godkingross
Your comment is weird and makes no sense.
Learn English before you migrate to a country with 2.5 million unemployed due to a country apart of the EU.
VOTE UKIP PLEASE.
chris77777777ify 3 months ago
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@ godkingross
Your comment is weird and makes no sense.
Learn English before you migrate to a country with 2.5 million unemployed due to a country apart of the EU.
VOTE UKIP PLEASE.
chris77777777ify 3 months ago
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UK
Mass immigration = mass unemployment .
Your stupid if you can't work that out. An over crowded island with not that much to offer only the same as there place of Origen.
NO 2 EU ...., VOTE UKIP
chris77777777ify 3 months ago
The truth is nobody wants to work not even are mp's you work because you have to, if the immigrants can claim it for free then they will, most who come here do if they have children the others work because they have to at first. without benefits even the few lazy would soon be out seeking work or stealing rather than starve but we can not have 70 million people chaseing less than 10 million jobs without benefits the country would brake down as people turn to crime to eat and live....
MrBorderghost 3 months ago
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herocortez 3 months ago
is it any wonder we have people being videod on youtube ranting at immigrants on trains! people are sick to death of them, they dont give a crap about our country and are bringing it to its knees
0113leedsunited 3 months ago
IMMIGRATION IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY, STUPIDS!
.... but not good for the British dairy farmer seen as we're letting all the lactose intolerant races in.
I bet they never told you that the British are GENETICALLY the best at digesting milk products in school.
it's all part of their "race doesn't exist" fabrication
godkingRoss 3 months ago
Is that English guy a complete prat or brainwashed.So he thinks British people should be forced to take minimum paid wages.So they can pay for all the immigrants who are on the dole.What about proper training for British people who have paid there taxes all there life.Politicions have sold this country down the river for a handfull of silver
makolic1 3 months ago
Opening up the EU borders for Eastern Europeans was a grave mistake. Even if UK stop all non-EU migrants, they are still facing mass immigrants from Eastern Europe. Basically, the EU sucks.
Currency84 3 months ago
@Currency84 Its a terrible deal for England because the majority of Europeans can speak English as a second language, so it's easy for them to come here, whereas the average British citizen cannot speak a second language, so we cant go to get employed in their countries
engliscwarrior 3 months ago
YOU DONT RECOGNISE THE LONDON BECAUSE LONDON IS A TOURIST DESTINATION. SO YOUR GOING TO HEAR TOURIST SPEAKING THEIR LANGUAGE. WHEN YOU GO TO CHINA OR SPAIN ON HOLIDAY DO YOU SUDDENLY START SPEAKING CHINESE....
sguardian870 4 months ago
This country is being sold out by greedy employers and spineless politicians, get us out of the EU and stop this blatant discrimination.
Davegy1 4 months ago
Im not too fussed about the eastern europeans, they are hard working and at least they are culturally simiar to Brits..
On the other Hand.. BLACKS - RIOTIN, MUSLIMS HATE US AND WANT TO KILL US..
wank0r 5 months ago
@wank0r i live down the road from a polish family who the man said his job is to have babies because he gets paid by the goverment so why would he work if he can live for free.I know many romanian immigrants who do the same although culturally they are similar to british.I know muslims here who have degrees and work every day as well as those who collect benefits and either way lazy people are bad for the economy no matter where they come from
bignasxl 5 months ago
@wank0r WELL THAT CAUSE YOU ARE RACIST.The blacks and muslims arrive in lesser numbers and are therefore insignificant in the numbers arriving in immigration. The biggest issue ARE THE EU NATIONALS. They can arrive with out any control and therefore increase the competition by far. Even if you got rid of all the blacks and muslims coming in the EU people will take your jobs.So you now see why being racist is stupid. Cause its an irrational way of thinking, making u more irrational in other areas
sguardian870 4 months ago
The reason why these immigrants are taking these jobs is because the English are fat and lethargic workers. They demand a pay rise undeservingly. They take no pride in their work and therefore do a bad job of it. Look a Corus for example.
The UK is under a capitalist system. That means that if an employer wants to hire low payed immigrants, the he has every right to do so. Immigrants are hard working, decent people who work for their money. The English has a 'me-first' attitude in life...
MrMantura 5 months ago
call us "racists" and "haters"....who is us? the bnp?..if yes....there right!
loveisall1000 5 months ago
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MrMantura 5 months ago
@MrMantura thank you*
loveisall1000 5 months ago
@MrMantura Try "they're".
Petey90 5 months ago
British people have a reputation for being lazy. You all expect your jobs on a plate for you. Well how about a taste of your medicine and going out and earning your jobs.
JenniferHL3 5 months ago
@JenniferHL3 You're completely right! We're so fucking lazy! Everyone just expects a job, they don't want to compete or work for anything. Then these idiots get pissed off and start voting stupid parties like UKIP and BNP..
PineTreeAndCone 5 months ago
Shocker, five Polish guys living together in one house don't need to earn as much as one resident with a wife and two kids to support with a mortgage. This is not racist as the retards in government would have us believe but reality, and if you keep voting for these corporate wankers you get what you deserve.
enddebtslavery 5 months ago 3
Nothing is going to change, they can't control immigration within the EU and they can't renegotiate with the EU as the deputy PM puts Europe before UK, presumably as his pension fund with the European Parliament is bigger.
It's convenient blaming the immigrants of course as the video says, British people, even those who are thick as shit and totally unskilled, think a lot of jobs are below them so obviously immigrants will plug the gap.
Ignitionnet 5 months ago
Interesting how the decadent liberals in the west import poor people from the 3rd world to do the jobs they think themselves to good to do. Yet they hate it when open minded people question massive amounts of immigration and call us "racists" and "haters". Such shallow, valueless people.
Chickenwing1313 5 months ago 16
The markets want flexible cheap manpower that's what a Neoliberal govenrment does; give the market what they want. Next they want to derregulate employment laws and crush the unions. So they can take us back to wating in crowded pens at 5am begging for a job without even asking how much it pays. Over a century it took to break their grip on the whip and you morons want to hand it back to them at the first sign of trouble. Cowards.
MetaReaLizard 5 months ago
The BNP have been speaking out against this for years and have been demonised by the media, the elites and the brainwashed sheep that believe them. The BNP are in front of the curve. It's time to wise up and vote BNP
RockofEngland 5 months ago 2
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@RockofEngland Any person who blames immigrants for UK economic woes should look at these youtube videos for alternative answers:
"How the Rich Beat the Taxman"
"FTSE100 use tax havens to avoid UK taxes (11Oct11)"
"Cashing In On Degrees"
The Rich, Politicians blame immigrants just to cover their own stinking gulity arse holes.
johnny771977 4 months ago
I wonder if "cast iron" Dave will have anything to say about imigration next week.
arthur1411 5 months ago
GG Labour.
Guess we'll be seeing you back next election for more... *sigh*
Ckererec 5 months ago
foreign companies for foreign workers.
cheeckybutnice 5 months ago
Stop complaining, and join UKIP! Do it now, takes 4 minutes. It is hardly a massive energy expense.
codownni 5 months ago
@liarpoliticians Why the HELL is everyone acting like it's some kind of newly discovered thing?
The fact that news programmes are saying the same and going further proves it not a isolated opinion.
BUT NO! The MPs carry on the "Erm but... duh but we need to erm" crap like they have for 10 plus years.
thatsthewayitgoes09 5 months ago
8%!!! Utter BS
The subversion of a nation through multiculturalism and the destruction by regulation of production across whole swathes of industry.
This is what happens when Common Purpose prevails.
The immigrants will live in sheds and work hard at rates of pay below a level where they will be able to keep their homes and feed their children. Meanwhile the banks and the city continue to feed off the sweat equity and lavish in the new imported slavery.
Follow the money and those that create it
pondman27 5 months ago
@pondman27 Multi - culturalism is a ploy to weaken the UK like the Euro as they WANT immigrants to flood into this country. 90%!? There IS NO reason for employers to give that many jobs to them at a time of mass unemployment but they do so because they're CHEAP not BETTER.
And I'm a BETTER worker than immigrants as I work in a charity shop working for NOTHING. I'm doing it for even less. Never hear the liberals mentioning that do you?
90% of all jobs is undefendable.
thatsthewayitgoes09 5 months ago
tell me something i haven't known for the last 5 years
jetdude696 5 months ago
We are essentially importing our own unemployment from eastern Europe. Vote UKIP.
ukipwarrior 5 months ago 8
@ukipwarrior UKIP is a phoney party who believes in diveristy
americaisbacktrump 5 months ago
@ukipwarrior
Hey, Nigel Farage´s party? How is it doing nowadays?
TiLLiPooP 2 months ago
@ukipwarrior Why, there are already far too many immigrants here, UKIP will allow even more in.
Do you look at the numbers here now and say "that's not enough".
We are way beyond the stage now where we need to slighly slow immigration down, we have to stop it completely, and begin repatriation to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
stepheng1483 3 weeks ago
Why is this happening?
education is not great here... aside from in the professions (ie the people who went to the top universities/private schools), most people are not "good workers", I am sorry to say... but still, this is very surprising.
jjcale1111 5 months ago
Labours legacy... Never forget
Sres1 5 months ago
Alf Garnett would be fuming
TheBullionBoy 5 months ago
this country is sinking day by day.
Mancunian786 5 months ago