The Spray Heard Around the World: Disruptive Students Get a Face Full of Pepper Spray

[dfbowman1]

bring out the water cannons . let them know what martin luther king went through . a man among men. who did what was right not cool. i wonder if they would countinue if they actuly had to sufer for there belifes '

[br16j94]

millions of views vs 3,356

someone sure is popular

[kevlarunderware]

Ron Paul 2012

[filthyunderpants]

Spray those filthy hippies! My sympathy is with the cops. Beat them with bats!

[CountArtha]

The cops did the right thing. The ones who backed off, I mean.

[callmeshane303]

OK I am in the dark here....

So just what were the people protesting about?

[realworldbycj]

The saddest part is that these idiots are of my generation. Why did so many of us turn out to be complete numb-nuts!? But, nonetheless they're entitled to their stupidity. As long as it's within the bounds of the LAW! I didn't see a dang peaceable thing about all their yelling. They sound like a bunch of morons who's parents never disciplined them! Either learn to obey the law, or be willing to pay the consequences of breaking it! They've got no sympathy here! Not even empathy!

[TrainingStream]

@Elvishairdude89 You do not fully understand why these people are protesting do you? Dont you remember the protest of the 60's how it started with the college kids and the U.S news said they were dirty drug using hippy's? It doesnt matter if the corp's. make money from the videos and tweets the point of the movment is to get people to start thinking about this stuff and asking questions. The 1% owns the media in the US so you had be more careful about where you get your news freind.

[HaroldRehling]

@TrainingStream The difference between the 60's and today is the hippies recognized Government to be the problem. Far too many of these kids seem to think Government is the solution.

The original, predominantly Libertarian, core of the Tea Party movement, by recognizing Government is at the root of the problem, had more in common with the 60's hippies than do the bulk of these Occupiers.

[anthroparion]

@Elvishairdude89 Ha ha, golden! They were sitting on a footpath... I'm not sure how much of a block that was to students learning or the university operating. Perhaps they had to walk around them... just terrible! You're right, I have no experience in a fascistic society (neither do you, you douche), but with this action and people like you in the world, I'm sure I won't have to wait long.

[anthroparion]

These guys are doochebags. They took their pepper spraying "like men" you fool, it's public outrage over the event, not the kids having a cry. The public is saying we don't like that kind of treatment in our first world country.  The gents on the left and right in this clip belong in Germany back in the 30's.

[TrainingStream]

More lies, just like the hydro fracking commercial before the video. The only thing the 1% can hope for is that the people that dont know whats going on, the fraud the lies and the truth behind the movment will get fed up with the movement and get scared crying out for it to just go back to the way it was...you know when the people who dont understand the truth behind the mov. crack from all the pressure and cry STOP just leave me alone...some people's brain can't handle all this information.

[CelticAngloPress]

3:11

Oh 4chan, you dun goofed this time.

[SPQRImperator]

Screw those hippies. They were given warning to leave, and they wouldn't.

Spice those filthy bastards up! lol

[Siegetower]

Don't need gaols for them all? When anarchists started destroying Copenhagen a few years ago, the Police arrested them all, handcuffed them together and left sitting cross legged in a courtyard that had no public view. They were there overnight, no toilet breaks, in the freezing winter weather. Want to cause trouble? Fine, sit here until you and everyone around you has urinated on yourselves. Without cameras and youtube to grandstand yourself on.

[geelaka]

I'm going to take my pepper spray like a man and not cry about it." Bill Whittle, you're an absolute disgrace to all men. In fact, it's usually men like you who talk hard and then you're the first to flee the moment any confrontation or fear enters the picture. You'd make a great politician...talk hard, start wars & have others fight the battles.

[allannus]

It is unfortunate that the less than 1 percent of students who violated university policy and resisted the cops are portrayed as heroes and now calling for the resignation of those who worked to maintain order and an environment conducive to study for the 99+ % of law-abiding students at UC Davis. The mob has triumphed.

[FreedomClause]

@allannus

abiding the law does not make you a saint....and breaking the law does not make you wrong.... seems people forget that Rosa Parks was doing exactly what these students are doing, refusing a legal order to comply with the wishes of a private property owner. Was she wrong? she was breaking the law....

And in Germany, everything that was done to the jews was done under legal authority.....the Nazies that put people into ovens were law abiding...and patriotic....

[allannus]

@FreedomClause The students violated policy by camping on property that wasn't theirs; Rosa Parks violated policy because of her race. While the law isn't always fair, the policy the students violated applied to all races; the policy Rosa Parks violated discriminated by race. The students' case wasn't the same as Rosa Parks'.

[TsugaC]

The kids are lucky they didn't have their heads cracked open by billy clubs. As far as I'm concerned, they'd have deserved all that and more.

[Slipknotyk06]

You cannot disrupt the operation of a Public Institution and expect to get hugs and candy. T

[TheCaliCapitalist]

I dont see how anyone could condone this kind of behavior in this country from its law enforcement. This a horrible way to treat anyone of any political opinion. I would never condone this kind of behavior or cheer it on.

[mm102908]

@TheCaliCapitalist These protestors admitted that they surrounded the police and refused to let them leave. The cops were well within their authority to do what they did. Unfortunately, this hasn't been reported on honestly enough for people to get the truth about this incident. Cops don't like doing this, but it's necessary to maintain order. If you can think of a better way to handle a situation like this let me know.

[NautyKnight]

Damn shame the socialist fuckers didn't melt like a bunch of wicked witches on the sidewalk after being sprayed! Should have doused them gasoline and lit a match and burned'em up!

[withowlseyewatch]

Of course, there are different solutions for dealing with a group of individuals sitting on a sidewalk. The easiest solution is to leave them alone to sit together as long as they wish without any interference from anyone. Where is the law that says "as you sit upon this spot, you must think a logical thought". It is illogical to come within 500 hundred yards of cogitators congregated for the purpose of cogitating. Serve them only food, drink, & noble silence. Nourishment brings clarity of mind.

[energie030303]

how close the guy pepper sprayed them and that looked like a bear mace can so ya brutality i just looked again that looks like a can of bear scare not fucking mace are u kidding

[red5llaw]

It was soooo nice of those ASSHATS to "release" the Police unharmed. THAT my friends, tells the Whole Story.

[tehicebear]

Listen, PJTV, I agree with alot of what you say, but i can't go with you on this one. The pepper spray was way out of line. A more proper response would have been to pick them up one by one and arrest them. Pepper spray is designed to incapacitate a target. These kids, as miss-guided and ill-informed as they may be, were just about as incapacitated as could be. Please do not defend the police simply b/c the protestors were in the wrong.

[Doctorj63]

@tehicebear

Well now the rest of the story has come out.....There is video of the cop telling the leader of this group 3 times that if they did not leave, they would get sprayed. The leader told him 3 times to go ahead and spray them. In fact he said "It's Okay, do it". It's convenient that the liberal media left this part out.

[mm102908]

@Doctorj63 That ruins the narrative that the MSM has built around this "movement". Once they propped these idiots up as regular people who were pissed off at rich people, the MSM had no choice but to ignore unions paying protestors, acts of violence, vandalism, filthy living conditions, and the fact that most of these whiney idiots are in fact rich.

[mm102908]

@tehicebear They tried that, but the protestors were pulling each other back. Of course that part of the video hasn't made it to CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, MSNBC or NPR.

[BeyondLame]

apparently what happened was they were told to remove tents, the occupiers refused. and then what happened happened.

[groam6666]

I use to be a communist, a Stalinist to be more specific. These people are the most convinceable people.You can get them to take from others, and at the same time get them to sacrifice everything they have to a small group of people.The interesting thing is, I bet not one of these people listened to the other side of the argument from the source. They just take clips and snips from their propaganda masters, and are lead to the conclusion people who disagree with them are inferior humans.

[Synapticsnap]

By Law you cannot incite other to violence or threaten a Peace Officers safety period or stop his ability to carry out his "Lawful" duties by using "Free Speech" ( i.e. Chanting Threats ) as a Constitutionally protected Right. Those Officers could have stood their ground and waited for the attack and responded with "Deadly" Force and shot the idiot inciting the crowd and anyone else approaching in a life threatening manner and could have done so lawfully. The crowd will now feel extra embolden.

[jasontromm]

The policeman is so far away from the protesters they didn't get much in their eyes.

[themunz126]

Release the police?? Call the National Guard if they want a Kent State .. I guess they can get it .. bring out the sound dispersal gear with the national guard. Let these kids deal with that.

[9971explorer]

I have no sympathy for these privileged spoiled brats. It is about time they heard the word No! And they need to hear it more often.

[10072018]

In other countries those kids would have been dragged away and never seen again. Or shot on the spot. There certainly wouldn't be any press there to blow the whistle... if there were they would portray the cops as heroes of the glorious regime or some such nonsense. No youtube either. OWS has no idea what oppression is, or Fascism, or brutality.

[lookejr]

@10072018 Just because someone elsewhere does something worse doesn't make what that police officer good.

[Dragdamar]

The 'peaceful protesters' were trying to create a modern Kent State incident.

[HaroldRehling]

UC Davis is NOT private property. It is so-called "public" [read: government] property. This is what makes a reasonable discussion about property rights and assembly/speech rights impossible.

Solution? PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING!!!!

[Loathomar]

@HaroldRehling That way we can stop all free speech! American for corporate freedom, personal freedoms be damned.

[HaroldRehling]

@Loathomar A "Corporation" as you apparently understand it is a legal fiction created, sustained, and empowered by government. Get Government COMPLETELY out of the market and these corporations you hate so much would fail and disappear to be replaced by firms which do serve the wants and needs of the public.

When government controls what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is the government.

[jeffery19677]

@HaroldRehling I couldn't have said it any better. I am copying that statement for my Facebook status! Thank you.

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling What a load of shit. The State is controlled by the Bourgeoisie itself. Capitalism and Markets as we know them can't survive without state intervention, that's why the bourgeisie supports the government in regulating the economy, so they can retain their class position. You're right, not only would the corporations dissapear, but the market would be destroyed as well. Free Markets are the biggest bullshit I've ever heard

[HaroldRehling]

@HTCEVOSONGS The market came into existence THOUSANDS of years ago when the first two primitives decided to trade what each had in excess for what the other desired. Markets and free-trade are a part of nature.

What we have is NOT free-market capitalism regardless of what Marx said, it is mercantalism.

You are right about one thing, though. Regulation protects entrenched interests. Why, then, would the left want MORE regulation? Maybe because they're hostile, ignorant and myopic?

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling The Market, as we know it is relatively new (Aprox 400 yrs). And Capitalism is not defined by "free Markets", it's defined by the nature of the mode of production, commodity production, etc. Even, if we are speaking scientifically, the Soviet Union was a FULLY capitalist country 1965 onwards. Free markets are a myth, they can't exist. And real Radical Leftists don't sympathize with the Bourgeois state, unlike that fucker Chomsky, the traitorous liberal.

[HaroldRehling]

@HTCEVOSONGS Markets have existed for as long as people have traded (which predates civilization by thousands of years)

Capitalism is defined by private ownership of the means of production. Ownership is a state of EXCLUSIVE rights and control over property. Capitalism is, therefore, synonymous with a free and unregulated market.

Markets, like people, are, by their very nature, free. Freedom is limited only when it submits to brute force.

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling But this is undoubtly a Utopian claim. In fact I must compare it to most of the Utopian Socialists I have encountered (Benevolence of people in a system). And Markets are not defined as organized trade, nor is capitalism defined as private ownership over the MOP. Capitalism is what we call the Bourgeois dominance over the mode of production, existing markets and capital. All of these things existed in the SU. Just a different way for the Bourgeoisie to organize itself.

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling The state, in terms of capitalist society, is always controlled by the ruling class (Bourgeoisie). When people are taxed, it on their behalf, when markets are regulated, the same. Free Markets have never existed. And even if so, you still have the internal systematic contradictions in capital accumulation, commodity production (which gives rise to falling profit) and man other contradictions in class, of international occasions, etc. Free Markets will lead to monopoly, thus

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling contradicting the very nature of them being "Free", like most Utopian ideology. You cannot put forward a blueprint for a future society in which conditions are caused by moral behavior. You must understand that people will only act in a moral manner as a RESULT of conditions, not a cause. And free markets do not provide conditions that will prevent monopoly, other then state intervention, which contradicts the idea of a "free market" and an unregulated society.

[HaroldRehling]

@HTCEVOSONGS What you Marxists call "Capitalism" is a symptom of Mercantalism. A monopoly can not exist without a state granted privilege. "Class" is irrelevant so long as standards of living are improving across the board. "Utopias" are superstitions. The belief anyone can draft a "blueprint for society" is a fatal conceit and doomed for failure. Risk of loss is the motivation for "ethical behavior".

[HaroldRehling]

@HTCEVOSONGS I find it incomprehensible how anyone comparing the failure of the Soviet and Maoist systems with the lifting of tens of thousands of people out of poverty daily in countries liberalizing their economies would celebrate communism.

Compare Caracas with Santiago or Pyongyang with Seoul.

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling You are playing games. I could say, if I was an asshole, compare Kampala with Havana, but I'm not an asshole. Because that's a completely innacurate way of judging the contradictions within social systems. And for the third world, life has been drastically worse, after NeoLiberalism, than before. NeoLiberalism literally has done nothing good. I don't care to argue with Utopians such as yourself, though. Because capitalism is failing and will eat itself soon and you can just bitch

[HaroldRehling]

@HTCEVOSONGS Both India and China, as a result of economic liberalization, have 50,000 people PER DAY, rising out of poverty.

Havana? How often do Cuban refugees fashion makeshift rafts in a desperate attempt to flee to the US as compared to the number of Americans trying to flee into Cuba?

Similar question for East and West Germany.

BTW, friend, you ARE an ####. Evidence? You condemn corporations and capitalism while using a corporate capitalist brand (HTC EVO) in your user name.

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling China did, yes, and India on the other hand, no. India has gotten poorer than ever before, as a matter of fact. And I'm not a lifestylist. Capitalism is the greatest mode of organization ever experienced by human civilization, however, time is running out. China will grow, and grow, and, like it's western counterparts, eat shit. My point was you cannot compare Cuba to the United States, as Cuba is a tiny Island nation constantly under siege and embargo. The U.S. is the largest mil

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling itary power in the world that got most of it's good living standards from Imperialism. This is an undeniable fact. And the same thing applies to West and East Germany, The United States did not get hurt by the war, unlike the Soviet Union (27million deaths). Therefore it was easy for the U.S. to just invest a shit ton of money in west germany. I never condemned "Corporations" as this is Bourgeois-Liberalism. Corporations are just a strand of a bigger problem-capitalism.

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@HaroldRehling If you want to compare Cuba to a nation, try comparing it to Uganda or Bangladesh, or any other third world capitalist country for that matter. Cuba doesn't try to deny that it's a shit hole, we know very well it is. But the reason? It has the most powerful nation at it's front door, which has been trying to destroy Cuba at all costs. Marx and Engels said socialism within the borders of a single, non industrialized country is worse than capitalism. There is a reason for that.

[Guitarrassdeamor]

If they blocked me from getting to class I'd just kick them out of the way/walk on top of them. Lol.

[cavibird2005]

Leave or get spray'd. If your dumb enough to stay after being told what was going to happen to you if you don't, that's on you. And no one else

[Loathomar]

I like the a University of California which is funded massively by the state is called "private property". This is a state run school, funded in major part by tax dollars, if the school would like to be a private school they can give back all funding from the people of CA, change there name and make there own rules, but until then it is very much a public institution and making ruling against free assembly is unconstitutional.

[RichardBDawson]

No reaction from the "pepper spray?"  Look at the crowd. Ever seen anyone really hit with pepper spray? They stop immediately, are temporarily blinded, the eyes tear, the face burns like it is on fire. This is not the reaction seen after the crowd was sprayed. FAKED and anyone who believes this, is PUNKED!

[FilipinoObjectivist]

Thank you, PJTV, for  existing.

[Jebusankel]

I find the last clip amazing, where it's a standoff between the cops with their paintball guns and the protesters with their cameras. The cameras are clearly the more powerful weapons.

[cristoballs]

i agree with most of what bill whittle is saying, and i'm generally against the ows movement, but i don't see how whittle can make some of the arguments he's making, being that uc-davis is a public, land-grant university. indeed, a protest on a public campus by students who pay to attend that school is not the same thing as protesting someone protesting on private property.

[scepticsteve]

@cristoballs That's not a public square but a place with a specific purpose. If someone declares taking a dump in the Lincoln Memorial or Screaming at a Pearl Harbor Memorial or "occupying" some public museum, you will get pushed out by whatever force necessary.

Equally, a barracks is a publicly owned property, you still cannot get in if the commander says no. Free speech is different from the freedom to disrupt public order everywhere or desecrate public property or interrupting business.

[Loathomar]

@scepticsteve Generally you can and should be able to occupy outside on a public museum or Lincoln Memorial, once inside there is a different question though. As long as you are not intentionally obstructing the site, ei block people from coming into the sites. You are generally not allow on a barracks, but you are also free to protest outside the barracks. The problem comes down to this, you can not make rules to stop people from protesting who would otherwise be allow there.

[Loathomar]

So, it the people who are protesting are student who would be allow in the area in a none protest form, a public institution can ban them from protesting in that area, unless they are block people from getting to class/work. If public areas can be banned from protesters then the government has just gain the right to ban all protests from all public areas all the time. This is a clear breach of both free speech and free assembly.

[scepticsteve]

@Loathomar "Congress shall make no law ... or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble," US Constitution, Amendment 1

It doesn't say local police forces cannot remove you from a public site if you interfer with other people's freedom. The fact that they were allowed to make a protest on campus is due to the local rules.

It's total leftist legal fiction that you can occupy anything and hold it hostage in general, regardless of ownership.

[Loathomar]

@scepticsteve So your honest argument is that the US people only have free speech from the fed and the state and local government can arrest for anything you say if they want? And, state and local governments can tell your what religion to follow. I guess you feel that you only ever have the right to a gun when in a "well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" too, right? All other cases the government can ban all guns..Are you just a complete and total stateist?

[scepticsteve]

@Loathomar No. My point is that it's not a matter of ownership. If you block a street or disrupt other people's lives or not be "peacably" in any fashion, you can be told to go somewhere else and if you don't do that it can be enforced. There can be no general law to infringe freedom of speech or assembly, but that doesn't mean you have a right to infringe other people's rights in any fashion. And these clowns even threatened the staff, which means they could be removed.

[Loathomar]

@scepticsteve There where no complaints of threats to staff, and a threat to a stuff member would likely have you expelled. After the protest the student start silently following the head of the school with the demand that she step down, you can see the video. The point is the student where not braking any rule but the fact that they had tents. It is in the written warning, go read it.

[scepticsteve]

@Loathomar Administrative meetings were cancelled because of threats. The protest was designed to threaten, intimidate, and disrupt. It also disrupted the normal work at the university. None of that is peaceful. It all interfers with other individual's freedoms. And the first amendment doesn't say you can cancel other people's life, it says that congress can make no LAW likt that.

There is no justification for complaining about the conduct. They were warned, sought confrontation, and got it.

[scepticsteve]

@Loathomar "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It doesn't say what kind of arms, it doesn't say about any circumstances. So you can own and bear arms of any type, everywhere in general. Except when the owner of that property doesn't like people with guns around or you go somewhere where you have to follow special rules to attend.

[Loathomar]

@scepticsteve It just say arms, mean all arms. All weapons, guns, bombs, knives. Unless it is for a ""A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" you have no right to them at all, at least if would are being consistent with your reading of the 1st amendment. It is a moronic reading of the constitution and I knew you would be "up in arms" over the same view of the 2nd amendment.

[Dragdamar]

@Loathomar Bloody communists and their innate fear of personal responsibility.

[scepticsteve]

@Loathomar I don't see any incoherency at all. The militia part is an explanation, not a restriction. The first amendment says there can be no law that forbids you to peacefully assemble or speak freely. I don't see why you oppose the fact that a right to free speech doesn't mean you can disrupt a class of students by yelling against Vietnam?! You can yell against Vietname, but you must go somewhere where you don't disturb others and don't infringe their rights. A special rule for the class...

[Loathomar]

@scepticsteve Right, there are reasonable restrictions of free speech/assembly/guns. As for public school, the law says in can not disturb or block classes. The protest was not disturbing or blocking classes. The only complaint from the school was about tents, not disturbing or blocking classes. I am not sure how tents where disturbing anyone, but they are generally not allow on campus, so the police had the right to take them, and they did. After they took the tents the pepper spayed.

[scepticsteve]

@Loathomar There is no restriction on free speech whatsoever, imho. The restriction is that congress can make no LAW to restrict it. Originally the states could impose those (since all powers not granted to the feds go to the states or people). That changed with Amdt. 14. But nobody has to put up with your bad behaviour. And it has nothing to do with public ownership of the area. There are rules on the campus, comply or leave. The sit-in was ordered to dissolve. No law was enacted here.

[riddler251]

That is fake video. There is no way that they would be as calm as they were if they had just been pepper sprayed that many times in that quantity. I have been gased several times pepper sprayed a couple, and I am not nearly as affected by it as most, adn there is no way even I could stay that calm.

[wiz9496]

@riddler251 It's not fake, at all. It's a bunch of people breaking the law in the hopes that the cops will beat them up. That would garner a lot of sympathy to their cause. That didn't happen. But I'm surprised that none of them got up and ran. I gotta give it to 'em, they've got balls. That's all they've got, though.

[riddler251]

@wiz9496 I just don't see how it is possible for not one of them to be freaking out after getting hit with pepper spray. I don;t know if you have ever been hit by it, but it isn;t some passive shit that you just sit there and blink. NTM, if you really want to garner sympothy and make it look like you are really being tortured, then run around like you have just been tortured!

All in all, it could not be as bad as they made it out. I say the Police used watered down pepper spray, if not water.

[Loathomar]

@riddler251 This would be a truly massive fake, there are over a dozen different videos, the police and UCD are not denying it happened, the where several people hospitalized from it and several law suits have already been filed. I mean damn, that is would be sever hundred people work on this fake, including all those who would be hurt from it.

[kruegerhaus]

The police and private property owners have show exceeding restraint with the OWS mob.  Thank you Trifecta team for speaking truth in our world where lies are broadcast everyday and every hour. Let's give a medal to the officer with the pepper spray!

[tonoslim]

If you break the law, you deserve punishment......we have the right to protest, but we don't have the right to break the law or keep ppl. from doing their thing. And you can tell the cop wasn't aggressive at all!

[spookycheeseballs]

give that policeman a medal.........and more pepper spray ;o)

[Vorgoth911]

Man shoots 6 people, then drops his gun and is shot by an Officer. Now what it would look like if edited by OWS, Frightened innocent man brutally gunned down by Cop.

[bobbytiger]

Question.

Where are the Black, (err..."African-American"), protesters?

Is it that the USB Occupy Anything people are racists, and don't allow Blacks to be a part of their "protest"? Or is it that Blacks simply don't think that staying up all night, locking arms while blocking human traffic, ignoring an order to move, and knowing that you will get pepper-sprayed, is really in their best interest.

[Tilaron]

@bobbytiger Funnily enough, the black community is smart enough to not give a damn about these stupid hippies and their lack of intelligent arguments!

[slLLyhumans]

Its amazing how quickly i stopped caring about this .

[CaptainLazerus]

Looks like UC Davis missed a prime opportunity to try e-classes on a grand scale so that nobody would show up to the campus except hippies and cops. It's hard to have a convincing protest if nobody is there to see it.

Oh wait! That's forward thinking. Universities - particularly Californian ones - won't be having any of that.

[nottinmatterz2day]

the spray 'seen' round da world

[jr52990]

"weapons"... last time I checked Weapons kill... Pepper spray and paint ball guns are non lethal, and don't kill.

[karozans]

@jr52990

For OWS pepper spray is considered to be deodorant.

[shamgar001]

One other thing: Had the students been told that they would be shot if they didn't move, would be expected to have no sympathy when the threat had been carried out? I know that there's a difference between bullets and pepper spray, but I'm not convinced that pepper spray was reasonable in this situation.

Please note that in neither of my posts did I endorse what these students stood for.

[shamgar001]

I have to wonder, would these commentators react the same way if the students were protesting high taxes? I have trouble believing that they would.

[DontFriendInviteMe]

Middle America isn't being swayed by anything these animals do. The more they block people from traveling in their own cities, towns, & colleges, the more people are beginning to hate them and are glad the police are finally doing something about them.

[withowlseyewatch]

Waaaaa!!!!!!!

[zthrs]

I find it ironic that the universities that have taught these pukes these shitty values are now having to deal with those very same idiots coming home to roost.

[Kiddeth]

When you see armed police chased off by unarmed protesters, It simply means that the lack of respect that the police have been showing the people is now being returned. the government has been showing a lack of respect to the constitution and the people, i wonder how thats going to turnout.

[DangerousD6969]

the guy on the right is a fucking moron, you cannot use pepper spray unless you are being attacked, thats the law

[daPlumber702]

@DangerousD6969 You're ignorant of the law regarding pepper spray. It was created to avoid being attacked. Waiting until you are be sorta bi passes the entire point of it. Better pepper spray than a baton, fist, or god help, a bullet.

[DangerousD6969]

@daPlumber702

did you eat paint chips as a child, the group did nothing that warranted the cop to spray them you retarded fucking moron

[daPlumber702]

@DangerousD6969

They broke campus rule by setting up tents. The police came to remove the tents from the grounds after being asked to do so by the body that owns and governs the school grounds.. not public property. After doing so they were encircled and chants giving the impression of threats of violence were shouted at them. They instructed the crowd to move so that they could leave those kids sitting in front of them sat there at that point. they refused a direct order the cops had every

[daPlumber702]

@DangerousD6969 reason to make. What don't you get about the situation? Protest is all good, sitins are great, but you either do what the cop says or face the consequences. And you most certainly do not cry like a baby about the consequences of your actions after they happen.

[repairmanjack13]

@DangerousD6969 That is the law for a civilian. Police officers have the ability to use pepper spray to diffuse situations and avoid physical confrontation that could result in real injuries. The fact is, these protesters were told that they had to move. They were told in advance that they would be pepper sprayed and they are recorded on video agreeing to be pepper sprayed. This is nothing more than a publicity stunt to gain sympathy for the OWS movement.

[DangerousD6969]

the cop got fired for over use of force

[daPlumber702]

@DangerousD6969 no, he didn't.

[NAGGERNUTZ]

They were warned. They should be thankful that pepper spray was all they got.

[daPlumber702]

@thezpn horrible comparison is horrible.

[wtf0804]

The people getting pepper sprayed looked perty damn calm.

[thezpn]

@wtf0804 Thats because they were peaceful protesters, exactly the opposite of people deserving of aggravated assault by pepper spray

[marcef100]

Lol typical neo cons, don't give a dam about liberty or freedom. Only thing worse then these street punks, is pretending to be conservatives railing against big gov , except if it comes with a GOV badge gun.

[karozans]

@marcef100

It is not a Liberty or Freedom to trespass.

[thezpn]

@karozans If you're a student on your campus, then you are a member of the institution and a stakeholder. Then it is no longer trespassing, it is a peaceable assembly. Try them for trespassing, If they are found guilty, THEN they are trespassing. Not because a claim was made. Respect the rule of law.

[karozans]

@thezpn

I highly doubt that.

Most libraries on school campuses are government property and open to the public. However there are rules. Bums are kicked out all the time and cannot sleep there. Plus there are hours of operation. Also a protest cannot impede anyone from using the facilities.

If you are inside the library at the wrong time, it is trespassing on government property.

I am sure other areas of schools are run the same as the library.

[daPlumber702]

@thezpn Untrue. Students of a school can very easily be charged with trespassing. In this case though loitering and rules against it, then other charges would be the things the smelly college kids should be worried about.

[repairmanjack13]

@thezpn Wrong! The only stakeholders are the Board of Trustees. As a student you are paying for the use of the colleges facilities to be used in a manner approved by said Board. This is why you can not walk on to campus and change the landscape without permission. In this case the students may be able to assemble to protest for a set time, but the moment the Board tells you to leave you are trespassing.

[marcef100]

@karozans lol, like I didn't expect the NEO CONS to jump on this.Good sheep, you almost don't have to take orders anymore. Keep THINKING, than get back to me. Regardless we don't need BIG GOV ENFORCERS abusing people. Some day for some reason it will be your mother, your brother, or you. Maybe"we" remove them, utilizing PEACE officers, not resorting to lowest common denominator of STATE VIOLENCE, because it feeels good to stick a punk. Until/unless somONE uses aggression to prevent removal.

[karozans]

@marcef100

Your comment is all over the place and doesn't make much sense. Fix, then re-post.

[marcef100]

@karozans nope, I re read, it's right on point. Maybe you just need to open your mind. Not ever thing can or should be spelled out, but my point is pretty clear. LESS GOV, at this point, will start with changing the mentality that a gov badge & gun somehow creates omnipotence in the person(s) put into those positions of enforcement. Take 80% of laws off the books, take 50% of the police force of the pay roll. Mold and create a mentality of PEACE officer in those that remain.

[karozans]

@marcef100

I stopped reading after the first spelling error.

[marcef100]

@karozans upon review of your comment, you now realize how week that makes your original argument sound, yes?

[karozans]

@marcef100

No.

[karozans]

At 5:50. Who said anything about locking them up?

If you are a Republican, Conservative, or REAL Libertarian and you don't already own a gun, it would probably be a good time to purchase one and learn how to use it.

I am thinking we will need them in the near future to protect our lives and our property.

[DiNatalli]

Its like here in NYC you'll have a stupid commie scream curse and point the finger at a cops face then not move when he tells you to then as soon as the cop grab them to the ground they all start whimpering screaming like little victims. Its pathetic. But what do you expect the commies are running our Universities & Colleges for 60 yrs now. Hollywood r all leftist Marxist. Tell me this is not a conspiracy.

[SteelandSouls15]

This repeat after me chanting stuff is scary as hell. Almost like free thought was just stepped on and thrown away.

[GutpileCharlie]

These pathetic piles of shit got, just what they had coming. What do you expect. The cops asked them to leave....they didn't....they got sprayed....now they are bitching?

To hell with them. They need to get out the horses, dogs, water cannon and baseball bats.

These smarmy pieces of shit just need the crap beat out of them....and then thrown in jail.

[LordAtrocities]

I guess that crazy dude Glenn Beck was right... yet again. Riots in the streets here in the US. He predicted this what two three years ago?

[natritious1]

it wasn't even real pepper spray. You can watch army traning videos of guys who barely get a whiff of it and they INSTANTLY and UNCONTROLLABLY start salivating and vomiting as well as not able to sit in the same place. This is a big media scharade. The entire movement is a carnval side-show

[StopFear]

Yea, I've seen the 3 clips of what REALLY happened. I've been arguing with commenters over and over. They keep calling police evil et cetera. Reality is that the police went to arrest those who put the tents there as well as sleeping bags. Then they tried to lead them to the department. Other students started to chant and surrounded the police, blocking the way. The students provoke the police by occupying a PUBLIC space that belongs to everybody. Its a a crime against other students.

[Mezey5]

Man i would be yelling OWNED at those kids if I saw them getting pepper sprayed.(That pepper spray is diluted, if it wasn't, they would be on the floor rolling around).

[antimarxism]

The only problem with the pepper spray is that it didn't work that great. They should use water cannons or something more effective.

[thezpn]

@antimarxism And dogs. Just like they used against them uppity blacks, am i right? HAH! They shall overcome my ass! We knew they were wrong because they were all elevator operators and table cleaners, the dregs of society, asking for equal preference and treatment. What next, they are going to demand we allow them to share our restaurants! i mean come on!

[antimarxism]

@thezpn I hope they can "overcome" the horrors of paying back 12 yrs worth of student loans to get that Art History & Diversity Studies degree.......LOL! All the while taking summer breaks, protest breaks, grueling 1 hr study sessions daily, weed/sex breaks, game breaks, party breaks, protest rally breaks, etc..

The horrors.....the horrors!

[karozans]

@antimarxism

LOL.

What do you do with a Masters in Art History?  You get a nose ring and pour coffee for a living.

LOL

[antimarxism]

@karozans LOL!

UConn doles out BFA's, MA's, and MFA's in ..........get this.......Puppet Arts. Imagine a Master's from UConn in Puppetry. Check out the UConn website on Puppetry. It's even laced with typos and grammatical errors.

The demand is so high, that they had to limit enrollment.

Can you imagine someone getting financial aid, especially GOVERNMENT aid, to pay for puppet training? And these idiots that spent the last 4-10 yrs playing with puppets, want a bailout?

[karozans]

@antimarxism

OMG! I had no idea that such ridiculous degrees were offered.

The people on the left claim that they are more educated and have more degrees than people on the right. Just because you have more of something doesn't mean it is better. Having more BO than other person isn't a good thing.

One B.S. in Electrical Engineering is more valuable than 50 Masters in fine arts.

[antimarxism]

@karozans Yep.

[ijzerkoekie]

@karozans or eventually become a prof with tenure.

[lanebatts26]

@karozans teach art classes in college maybe

[Timasu]

There are other videos of what led up to the pepper spraying. The police broke up the camp and arrested a few people who tried to stop them. As they were leaving the protesters formed a circle around them. In one video the protesters do a "mic check" and then tell the police that they will let them leave if they release the people they have arrested. The police also gave the protesters blocking the path many warnings before using the pepper spray.

[brotherscoobs]

i sure am glad there are outlets like pjtv and many other who bring these incidents to light in the proper context...the old media used to have a monopoly on information...they no longer do thanks to people like you guys !

[thezpn]

@brotherscoobs However this video brings no new facts besides the mention of written threats on both sides to light. The rest is speculation and opinion. That might be 'information" but it is not informative. Also, just because it comes from the old media doesnt mean it is bunk, either. In fact, the old media has a vested interest in making sure their claims can be backed up with proof.

[daPlumber702]

@thezpn since when? 

[blondecrazygaijin]

UC Davis --my alma mater. I used to work for that very PD..! The pepper-spraying did shock me, but sorry, there are PLENTY of places on that campus where you absolutely cannot speak as a conservative or libertarian.

I was regularly shouted down, no matter how polite, and frequently I was down-graded on essays, simply for not having the same opinions as the prof. 4 me there were no cameras, and no sympathy.

The few others like me experienced similar treatment.