Joan and Maria are two very different singers, SO what's all this fuss about comparing these two remarkable singers? Maria had contributed something to bel canto and so did Joan. High notes, low notes, diction or no diction, You shouldn't be comparing these two! Just Enjoy what they gave us and stop comparing!
Personal preferences should never stop you from enjoying alternative interpretations. . . I'm obsessed with callas in everything but it doesn't stop me from appreciating the great dame joan's reading of tosca. Just beautiful. . . .
THIS IS A JOKE, ISN´T IT???...........SUTHERLAND INSULTS THE ROLE WITH HIS MONOTONOUS SINGING AND HER HORRIBLE ACTING.......MARIA CALLAS STILL REIGN AS TOSCA .........SHE WAS, IS AND WILL BE THE ONLY TRUE TOSCA....PERIOD !!!!
@Eiswirth1 There's a little something to what you're saying. I think Callas a more superior artist than Sutherland, Callas's Tosca is undeniably the standard of today. But in this scene here, Sutherland understood full well Tosca's vulnerability, her fragility, whereas Callas sounded PO'd up the ying yang. Sutherland is so breathtaking here. Her diction is atrocious, but I never bought that she was not much of an actress. She certainly was convincing here... & yes, all she had to do was sit!
Sutherland is excellent. However, she does not go as high and long as caballe near the end of the aria. Caballe puts slightly more emotions also. Henace, caballe has sung slightly better. Callas is as good as Sutherland.
O yes, she had problems with the vocals! When an i in Vissi can be heard as an ö.
I have always been told this(when you cant´t sing an (a) use the (ö)sound, but for an( i) like in Vissi I have never heard before. Her voice was superb in sound,so we don´t have to listen to the texture.Thanks heaven.
O yes, she had problems with the vocals! When an i in Vissi can bwe heard as an ö.
I have always been told this(when you cant´t sing an (a) use the (ö)sound, but for an( i) like in Vissi I have never heard before. Her voice was superb in sound,so we don´t have to listen to the texture.Thanks heaven.
well get a new teacher cause that has no problem at all vowel modification. I think its funny that most people that are on here listen to their teachers then the best singers int he world. Unless your singer was one of the best, or taught the best, then they're not better. Listen, and learn. And then listen again. That's the best voice lesson you could ever get.
@scotsw12, you have issues my friend. There are clearly areas where Callas shone and, similarly, areas where Dame Joan was the better artist. Callas was a stage presence like no other and commanded the imagination in a way that made her THE Floria Tosca of her time. And, in the beginning her voice was superb. But, later (post 1955-ish) everyone knows it thinned and suffered from serious inconsistency. Sutherland on the other hand was an astounding voice throughout her career.
@slicerprime - I have come across a rendition from Wilhelmenia Fernandez - Since Maria... beautiful, emotional... Has it all... Try it - sung live all lying on the ground - unbelievable...
@slicerprime I think that Callas voice was till 1964 very astouning, and although it didn't have the strength and perfection that it had till 1955, I do not think that Sutherland's voice was any better and Although Joan had a perfect voice throughout her life, it was not near as excellent and unique as Callas
@wastings101 Well I am not quiet sure what you mean. Of course everyone has his personal taste, but first of all i may not be an expert in this field, but i think everybody knows that if somebody hears lets say 100 recordings of various artist he will be able to recognise Callas,the same does not aply for Joan or any other opera singer. I do not doubt Sutherlands talent but Callas was the only one who could sing from very very low to very high notes perfectly, i have not heard Joan doing that...
@Sebastian94338@wastings101is totally right. Sutherland had more perfect notes from very low to very high. Callas is awesome but Sutherland is a lot better. And Callas doesn't have a so much unique voice, you can mix her up with other sopranos but Sutherland you can recognize even in a choir. The most recognizable voice in the whole operatic world is Luciano Pavarotti. When he sings everybody knows that this is Pavarotti. That's because Pav had what no singer ever had. Overtones.
@ThePavafan You are right, Sutherland had "perfect" notes, but she has not proper articulation and would not fit to kiss Callas' shoe tops when it comes to artistry. Bland singing. Pavarotti is not the only tenor with overtones.
Hm, do you really think that Pavarotti is the most recognizable voice in the world? Have you heard Martinelli, Gigli, Corelli or even Kaufmann to name a few? They are of more distinction than Big P.
@XP11XP If you ask all people in the world who is the most recognizable voice ever 90 percent of them will say Pavarotti. It is proved by all music teachers and voice doctors that Pavarotti has the best overtones and the most recognizable voice ever.
that doesn't prove anything. you could say the same of Hanna Montana, Britney Spears or Justin Timberlake. all it means is Pavarotti did more marketing and performances outside of the usual operatic audience
@Sebastian94338 Are you seriously suggesting that Callas had a better top than Sutherland? If so I suggest you book in for an ear transplant! Callas' top notes were often piercing and unsteady. However both she and Joan were truly great!
Also, Callas, Sutherland, Caballe, Pav, Domingo, et al, they all had to sing just one line and you knew who it was singing!
@timsuffolk I mean that Joan Sutherland has a perfect voice but it is the classic bel canto voice and lacks in something really special Don't get me wrong, she is a unique artist,but when i hear Callas whose normal voice range is much deeper then Joan Sutherlands, but Maria still manages to sing such high notes i t takes my breath awayWhile Sutherland sings the aria i know that she is going to make a perfect top, that doesn't happen with Callas who sings the whole aria in a lower octave
@Sebastian94338 Go listen to Ghena Dimitrova singing this aria, and Anna Shafajinskaia, they sound like altos in lower register, but have stratospheric heights!!!
@timsuffolk and hitting the high note is really astouning. Of course it is sometimes unsteady but that is what she makes her unique apart from being a unique artist which i really do not see with Sutherland!
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This version is a bunch of crap...she suks kok...LOlol...get OVER it already...Callas WAS Tosca (AND every OTHER fukkin role she deigned to take on too!!)!!
wow, nunca habia escuchado a esta magnifica cantante.
peor me parece que es una version presiosa y bien lograda de tosca, una mas de las maravillozas interpretes que han echo de esta aria una de las mas escuchadas por mi.
Joan Sutherland was one of the greatest voices of all time. Anyone who would criticize her glorious legacy reveals their appalling ignorance and stupidity. Julian
@argentummaty You know, this is singing, this is opera, and distorting vowels in order to sing a beautiful note on pitch and with good projection is perfectly allowed if necessary, especially if the other alternative is to sing with a flawless pronounciation but a completely flawed note. That's why Opera fans like to accompany the music with subtitles or libretto even if they speak the language of the opera. You should also remember that the vowel "i" is one of the most difficult to sing.
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What the fuk are they CLAPPING like that for!!??Ahv juss listened to a number of different artists do the Vissi d'arte and NOBODY comes even CLOSE to Maria Callas' version!!This is DREADFUL!!
@TheMrMarilyn Really? And why do you say that? The acting leaves a LOT to be desired, but as for the singing, I don't believe there is much to criticize.
@Telltaleheart79 Because there seems to be little comprehension by her of the dramatic situational awareness of the character she is meant to be portraying...it left me completely cold!!Her singing is alright...nothing special,which is why ah responded as ah did...this performance just doesn't warrant the excessive amount of applause that it receives,it's completely 'unbalanced' in mah opinion!!Mind yoo,ah don't know what that audience has been regularly subjected to regarding other portrayals!
@JLevant1 My comment is perfectly legitimate,and grammatically concise..which provokes the comment: And your impersonation of an illiterate twit is also extremely convincing!!Don't bother replying,as ah aint got the time or the interest in swopping insults,just because ah don't find this portrayal very 'moving'..and you obviously do!!Ahm perfectly comfortable with the fact that you like this...just as ahm comfortable with the fact ah don't!!Everyone doesn't have to like the same things ya know!!
@Telltaleheart79 Ahm not criticising her singing,as such...it's the whole thing...ah can't relly put mah finger on it...except to say that it dosen't 'move meh' the way Callas' does!!And...it was the audience's reaction to her performance that ah was initially commenting about as well...not so much her!!It's all fine though...everyone doesn't have to like/love the same things...and how fabulous for US that there is so much choice available also!!Love Em,x (Marilyn)
@scotsw12 Unfortunately, I do not understand your comment not recognising the language you are using. I am sure it is well though and illuminating though and thank you for taking the trouble to write it!
@scotsw12 Ahm sorry for yo ugliness...you have mah profound sympathy...for that AND being sonically challenged!!Now piss off and get a life...Callas RULES...ner ner ne ner nbeeeRRRR!!
@TheMrMarilyn Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I only speak English and am not sure what language you are using here. I am sure La Divina would not approve though!
@scotsw12 Callas fukkin LOVES me,you illiterate dwarf PMSL!!Anyway...being serious for half a second...my so called 'mental state' is,thank you very much,more than perfectly adequate for the needs it is required to serve,and your commenting on anyone else's state of mind (such as calling it into question) is FAR more revelatory about you and your prejudices and oversized ego,than any (alleged) humor to be found in mental health issues or learning disabilities!!And on THAT note...
So rich an experience, hearing her - Many others somehow don't bring out the melodic lines in this aria. They are there, but it takes her phrasing to bring them out.
Many people criticize her performance.. too me she is great. Dame Sutherland have great voice,we all know that, maybe Tosca is not the best role for her but i think she did a good job here.
@ArchiducDeBelgrade I agree with you. Tosca isn't her kind of role, but she has got such a solid technique and timbre that allows her to do a good job here too!
as with most singers, there is a balance between voice and words - Joan's diction was never very good - but one forgave her because of the voice ... Callas sacrificed sheer beauty for high drama ... one forgave her also.
@lhrlyc it's a shame the media and public care more for looks rather than vocal quality... "it's trash, so I guess people like to buy trash" I wonder what Callas sounded like before her weight loss? She was apparently as big as Sutherland (which is good, muscles were lost as well the fat). Joan is exquisite, can't deny that
fantastica como siempre.pero es una voz excesiva para verismo.todos queremos a sutherland.y el sello sutherland es indiscutible y hermoso.pero la intensidad verista es otra a la belcantista.que cantaba como nadie esto es cierto .pero esta aria la cantaron mejor otras.a lo mejor ella tampoco puso mucho interes en hacerlo mejor.porque dotes tenia.pero ella ciertas cosas las trato con mucha ligeresa.el verismo y wagner.asi que escuchesmosla donde es la reina.en el belcanto.
Who understand ANYTHING of what she says???? She starts singing ¨VOssi d´arte, vOssi d´amore¨. ¨furtivO¨, ¨perche gnore¨ (what about the ¨si¨) etc... So, great voice, not a great style or respect for the composer. And the very same flaws (EVEN MORE) in the coloratura repertoire, where she never pronounced a word as written. Anyways, she was GREAT ONE, but... let´s not exagerate. And let´s not talk about her ¨Norma¨ (hers, not Bellini´s).
@Tosca3211 Please explain me why you say she doesn't respect the composer (especially in the case of Norma, since she was the FIRST Norma in the 20th century to sing "Casta diva" in the original key intended by Bellini). I'd also like to know if you didn't ever learn that singing often requires distortion of the vowel sounds in order to sing the notes with better projection and steadiness on pitch. Sutherland was a marvelous technician, and no wonder had the best pitch and vocal projection.
It sounds more like she's nostalgically longing for something... not my favourite interpretation by any stretch, but out of usual repetoire this is still amazing!
All above so true but what an absolute joy to hear her singing this most gorgeous of arias. Leontyne with Karajan on disc probably one of the most thrilling, Kiri at her best sublime, Leonie Rysanek on her stomach heavenly, Lubja Welitsch out of this world and all the rest. Try the movie I live for art. Vissi D'arte with all the greatest including Tebaldi, Callas, Albanese, Olivero and more, truly transporting. A must for all lovers of the aria. Cheers
There was a point at which Sutherland said that she wanted to sing Tosca when she got to be 50 (I think she assumed that the coloratura days would be finished). I'm glad she stuck with the repertoire in which she was nonpareil. Catface, maybe I didn't express myself well enough. Being that Tebaldi is my favorite Tosca, I have no objection to a breath before "Signor". 99% of Toscas do that, and it's fine. But if a huge voice such as Sutherland's could do without it, why not try?
This certainly is an interesting Vissi d'arte. The diction is not all bad. I think the worse period was between 62-66. Unfortunately this I feel highlights her lack of dramatic conviction. It's the same with Caballe. But the voice the voice is amazing. I think the only role she succeeds with Puccini is Turandot and Sour Angelica. She did perform as Madama Butterfly when she was a junior artist at ROH!!. That would be incredible to hear if it was possible.
Why NOT a Sutherland Tosca on stage?It was the largest and EASIEST sounding voice I ever heard liv'absolutely large enough.I think it wasn't enough of a vocal challenge for her;she was busy singing roles that no one else could,a wise move(no one still can...still waiting for anyone in the ball park)...I also don't get the pronunciation problems;any modificatons of vowels isn't as severe as what you say;She worked it out to produce that effortless(seemingly) voice,unique like all great artists...
Beautiful despite the poor vowel intonation (Vosso d'Arte, Porcheeee Signor). Large, bright tone. She sings the "Perche Signor" in one breath, I think this is how Puccini wrote it. Callas does the same in her famous 1953 recording with de Sabata. Caballe would do a long, descending diminuendo on the "Singor", also very impressive. Tebaldi was famous for her "Vissi d'Arte" but at the limit of her high range.
Joan here is really good but she could never be a stage Tosca.
Any other Tosacs out there who can sing Lucia, Elvira, Amina, Alcina, Anna Bolena, Norma, Lucrezia Borgia et al? Jest asking. . . (Callas to one side of course.) However I am glad she did not stick with Puccini - there are many who can sing it but not so in the fach she astonished in. Still its interesting to her a great artist in something out of her usual balliwick.
RichieSuther You are being overly pedantic. There is NOT a one size fits all solution to performance challenges. You can not say that E flat is too low for vowel modification. Depending on the colour desired and the voice it might be a good artistic choice. kgaemarker is right about the extra breath before signor being required for bigger voices or if a singer desires to make a larger climactic moment. Puccini wouldn't have worried about properly distributed vowels just a fine performance.
Si chiama oscurimento di vocale : la Sutherland ( cantante che ammiro moltissimo ) era nota per coprire mediante oscurimento di vocale i vari suoni passaggio. Altri grandi cantanti lirici ( tra cui lo stesso A. Kraus ) sostenevano invece che tali oscurimenti fossero più dannosi che altro in quanto porterebbero indietro la voce.
her dark tone is exactly why i don't care much for her voice. and I apologise if you don't speak English, i just can't write in italian; i can only interpret it. =\
dark tone? I think her voice is bright and heroic sounding. for a dark voice, try Renee Fleming, Eva Marton, Marisa Galvany, Maria Callas, or Leontyne Price.
I don't think I meant to say dark tone, there's just something about her voice I dislike...It kind of sounds like her voice is...'dampened'? maybe its just me...
raigekimaru, are you stalking me? you seem to comment on everything I have commented on! ^.^ haha
@CantoSemper49 - I couldn't agree more. It got worse as she got older. I always refer to it as if she had a plumb in her throat. Montseratt had the same thing as she got older too. I often find Joan mechanical, and Verismo is all wrong for her. She just cant get all that love and desperation into the voice, and often for that you need to sacrifice a little technique.
@Ahdren Thank you for agreeing with me! I feel as though so many people are in love with her voice, and I just don't feel accustomed to it. The 'plum' is a perfect example of her voice's color. When she was younger and did more exciting coloratura passages, her voice came across as exciting, but in recent years, it had been dulled.
Jogadu, Sutherland fue una excelente soprano de coloratura., en su tiempo la mejor. Pero Tosca no era para ella, como tampoco Medea, Abigail, Lady Macbeth. Elvira de Hernani, Gioconda, Marguerita de Boito o Manon Lescaut. Y no se le entiende. Hay otras sopranos excelentes a las que si se les entiende. Pasa que muchas como Gencer, Negri etc. no tuvieron la repercusión discografica que ella tuvo. En cuanto escuchar ópera, escucho mucha, en vivo o grabada. Mis favoritas:
logicamente que si no estas acostumbrado a escuchar opera, pues no le vas a entender, puesto que alas sopranos por la colocacion de la vos y las notas agudas siempre tienen problemas con la pronunsiacion pero en fin alo mejor a magda se le entienda mas pero no tiene la vos de la sutherland
My only criticism of this is the vowels are distorted, particularly The ee vowels of Vissi.. they are modified to some form of O .. and frankly this is too low to modify vowels, i see no reason why from middle c to the F at the top of the staff, sopranos cannot sing the vowels nearly as written, so that we understand the text. But I can still make out the words here..
I agree that the Eb on Vissi is too low for vowel modification. This was a habit she had in the mid-60s when this was made. which she later discarded. Ironically, she sings a perfectly clear "i" on the final word, "cosi" here, which is on the same pitch! More importantly, she was the only soprano at the time to sing the phrase with the Bb as Puccini wrote it, with the syllables properly distributed and WITHOUT the gulp for air before "Signor". Everyone else did the standard rewrite.
i like the phrasing. Some of the gulping for air, is frankly how big the perche before it is sung and the perche immediately preceeding the b flat(signor) Some sopranos are singing with a lot more air, and volume.. and as a result need to breathe before the b flat. i prefer this treatment.
es una de las mejores versiones de vissi d arte joan sutherland definitivamente tiene una de las mejores voces solo comparable con la de la callas aun que esta version ami criterio es mejor que la de la callas, ¡¡¡viva la diva joan sutherland!!!
@jogadu1992 Estimado, La Callas no tenia una linda voz, es mas a los 50 años ya no cantaba ni "La cucaracha", siempre tuvo 3 registros bien notorios y a los 50 acusaba un tremolo pesado signo de desgaste, pobrecita quizas por la vida llena de dolor que tuvo... No voy a negar que era una gran cantante y gran actriz, pero el timbre de la Stupenda fue siempre maravilloso, quizas no tanto en el verismo, pero en el bel canto fue insuperable.
This is my first time seeing Ms. Sutherland singing that BEAUTIFUL INTERPRETATION. I sure enjoyed it very very much. Every Diva uses her own way..and that makes it FANTASTICO/AMAZING/OWESOME/ ETC. Thanks so much for allowing me to listen and enjoy every beatiful interpretation.
Always these ignorant Callas fanatics. Forget her, Tebaldi owned these verismo arias. Callas voice was much overated. Sutherland surpassed her in many arias. Callas acting was her forte.
Gobbi asked Sutherland to do Tosca with him on the stage (and he knew a thing or two about what makes a good Tosca!) but she refused. She had other plans. Probably very wise coz Callas fans would have been pissed off. But Gobbi obviously saw that Sutherland was unique and amazing and could offer something very special to the part too.
all you callas nuts, sutherland nuts, caballe nuts, sills nuts, tebaldi nuts, freni nuts, price nuts, bumbry nuts, milanov nuts, pons nuts, peters nuts, nillsson nuts, horne nuts, ponselle nuts, rysanek nuts, melba nuts, tetrazzini im nuts about these incredible singers. what they all do with their differing vocal instruments is what 99.9999999999999999 percent of the rest of the human race can't do. callas owned tosca, sutherland never performed it, but a beuatiufl lyric vissi d'arte here!
I think this is a beautiful performance of this aria. It might lack some of the drama that other singers have given it (Callas), but like Callas, Caballe, and Ponselle it is being sung by someone who can sing the bel canto repertoire.
She is pitch perfect here as always. I admire her for stepping outside of her normal coloratura area and singing Tosca, though this is not my favorite interpretation of the aria. But you just have to hear whatever she chooses to sing, because she is such a pro. She's one of the greatest divas of all time.
actually I think this is from before Richard "rescued" her and introduced her to her coloratura career (when she was training as a dramatic soprano). we're fortunate that he did as, depending on the hands she was in, joan sutherland could have ended up as a lyric coloratura, a lyric soprano or a dramatic soprano. perhaps there are more dramatic coloratura sopranos out there but they are just misclassified as joan almost was
I really like her version. I wasn't aware of it until this clip. Her phrasing is different than how most sopranos perform this aria which serves her well. Her high b-flat is effortless, on-pitch, and well-placed...beautiful job!
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I just don't get it.
The technique is good, but it's fairly artless singing, and the tempo is too fast.
She's singing that high b-flat as if it was something out of Wagner, sans all of the pathos and incredibly dramatic emotion that the note must convey.
I see what you mean. Indeed that b-flat is rather bland. However, I do actually think this faster tempo conveys this aria in a different dimension: I feel that if it's too slow, the audience are too overcome with emotion, and the rendition becomes slightly tiresome and heavy by the end. Tell me what you think!
And what's this nonsense about a fast tempo? It's just that today's conductors drag this aria out interminably so that, yes, it does sound tiresome and heavy, and phrase-by-phrase. This used to be a perfectly normal tempo for the aria, kids. The conductor, btw, is Donald Voorhees.
There couldnt be artless singing on this level, just artelss critical observations without any respect and balance. All these performers add their own voice and their own understanding to each piece...you can like it or not but to call it artless is certainly a sign of snobbish arrogant and ignorant stupidity and a shows some shortcomings in understanding capability...
Her interpretation is perhaps less dramatic than Callas or others, but I wouldn't say it's artless. She simply has her own interpretation. And the b-flat is flawless. I'm curious as to why you think Wagner's music doesn't require pathos and dramatic emotion (some of his stuff is as dramatic and wrenching as it gets). Perhaps not the best comparison to use if you are pointing out a lack of drama.
what utter garbage. "Artless"--do you know what that means? Bb--you think it sounds like Wagner because it's loud? "pathos and incredibly dramatic emotion"--the NOTE does that itself. Do you think that only notes wrenched from the singers' throats have pathos? She is also one of the very few who sings the line with the Bb as written, without the extra break before "Signor". Okay, she's not Tebaldi in this, but it's great singing.
Well I will take Joan on this one.. Tebaldi was simply too much work for me to listen to.. The High B flat sounded like it was the top of her voice, which above the staff turned hard and edgy. My guess this was recorded when Joan was younger rather than older, as there is not the wobble that intruded in the middle voice.. This is a bit understated, but it is beautiful . I prefer a more dramatic decrescendo on the A flat, but at least it is there.
Okay, this probably isn't the absolute most appropriate thing she ever recorded, but one must admit - that high b flat at the end has never been sung with greater ease or beauty!
joan Sitherland is the best Tosca , combining perfect voice technique and expression. Callas had the expression but imperfect voice , Joan has it all. breathtaking! divine!
I, too, wish she had decided to sing more Puccini. I have her recording of "Turandot". Richard would never let her sing it on stage. But the recording is sublime. In my opionion. Some have said her voice was too "sweet" for role.
How can a voice be "too sweet"?
Dame Joan was/is blessed with the light ability to dance around the coloratura that many are not, and even if they are, they for sure won't sound as good as she does.
Joan and Maria are two very different singers, SO what's all this fuss about comparing these two remarkable singers? Maria had contributed something to bel canto and so did Joan. High notes, low notes, diction or no diction, You shouldn't be comparing these two! Just Enjoy what they gave us and stop comparing!
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Personal preferences should never stop you from enjoying alternative interpretations. . . I'm obsessed with callas in everything but it doesn't stop me from appreciating the great dame joan's reading of tosca. Just beautiful. . . .
CallasAfrica 1 month ago
heavenly..I never understood why she didn't sing or just record more Puccini than the Turandot recording, great as it is
canpete1 3 months ago
Watching Dame Joan sing Tosca is friggin' trippy.
FergusMcDopey 3 months ago
I love her voice, but my god! it's so hard understand what she says.
peque1204 4 months ago
Hermoso
veeerooniicaaa 4 months ago
THIS IS A JOKE, ISN´T IT???...........SUTHERLAND INSULTS THE ROLE WITH HIS MONOTONOUS SINGING AND HER HORRIBLE ACTING.......MARIA CALLAS STILL REIGN AS TOSCA .........SHE WAS, IS AND WILL BE THE ONLY TRUE TOSCA....PERIOD !!!!
simisimi9 5 months ago
@simisimi9 Callas had to act well with that voice of hers... All Joan had to do was sing. No one could touch her.
Eiswirth1 4 months ago 8
@Eiswirth1 There's a little something to what you're saying. I think Callas a more superior artist than Sutherland, Callas's Tosca is undeniably the standard of today. But in this scene here, Sutherland understood full well Tosca's vulnerability, her fragility, whereas Callas sounded PO'd up the ying yang. Sutherland is so breathtaking here. Her diction is atrocious, but I never bought that she was not much of an actress. She certainly was convincing here... & yes, all she had to do was sit!
Rhopoe 2 months ago
Sutherland is excellent. However, she does not go as high and long as caballe near the end of the aria. Caballe puts slightly more emotions also. Henace, caballe has sung slightly better. Callas is as good as Sutherland.
Milahi1935 5 months ago
She is a goddess
skyiscrying53 6 months ago
horrible acting !!!!!!!!!!!!
simisimi9 7 months ago
O yes, she had problems with the vocals! When an i in Vissi can be heard as an ö.
I have always been told this(when you cant´t sing an (a) use the (ö)sound, but for an( i) like in Vissi I have never heard before. Her voice was superb in sound,so we don´t have to listen to the texture.Thanks heaven.
prince2000ful 7 months ago
O yes, she had problems with the vocals! When an i in Vissi can bwe heard as an ö.
I have always been told this(when you cant´t sing an (a) use the (ö)sound, but for an( i) like in Vissi I have never heard before. Her voice was superb in sound,so we don´t have to listen to the texture.Thanks heaven.
prince2000ful 7 months ago
@prince2000ful
well get a new teacher cause that has no problem at all vowel modification. I think its funny that most people that are on here listen to their teachers then the best singers int he world. Unless your singer was one of the best, or taught the best, then they're not better. Listen, and learn. And then listen again. That's the best voice lesson you could ever get.
wastings101 6 months ago
her voice was wonderful but her diction was terrible
truediabolique69 7 months ago
Do you know approximately how old she is here??
1985eleniathens 8 months ago
SUBLIMI TUTTI E DUE !!!
GRAZIE !!!
31122051 8 months ago
@scotsw12, you have issues my friend. There are clearly areas where Callas shone and, similarly, areas where Dame Joan was the better artist. Callas was a stage presence like no other and commanded the imagination in a way that made her THE Floria Tosca of her time. And, in the beginning her voice was superb. But, later (post 1955-ish) everyone knows it thinned and suffered from serious inconsistency. Sutherland on the other hand was an astounding voice throughout her career.
slicerprime 9 months ago 2
@slicerprime - I have come across a rendition from Wilhelmenia Fernandez - Since Maria... beautiful, emotional... Has it all... Try it - sung live all lying on the ground - unbelievable...
adeeo 7 months ago
@slicerprime I think that Callas voice was till 1964 very astouning, and although it didn't have the strength and perfection that it had till 1955, I do not think that Sutherland's voice was any better and Although Joan had a perfect voice throughout her life, it was not near as excellent and unique as Callas
Sebastian94338 6 months ago
@Sebastian94338
uhh callas is about as close to joan then you are to callas
wastings101 6 months ago
@wastings101 Well I am not quiet sure what you mean. Of course everyone has his personal taste, but first of all i may not be an expert in this field, but i think everybody knows that if somebody hears lets say 100 recordings of various artist he will be able to recognise Callas,the same does not aply for Joan or any other opera singer. I do not doubt Sutherlands talent but Callas was the only one who could sing from very very low to very high notes perfectly, i have not heard Joan doing that...
Sebastian94338 6 months ago
@Sebastian94338 @wastings101is totally right. Sutherland had more perfect notes from very low to very high. Callas is awesome but Sutherland is a lot better. And Callas doesn't have a so much unique voice, you can mix her up with other sopranos but Sutherland you can recognize even in a choir. The most recognizable voice in the whole operatic world is Luciano Pavarotti. When he sings everybody knows that this is Pavarotti. That's because Pav had what no singer ever had. Overtones.
ThePavafan 5 months ago
@ThePavafan You are right, Sutherland had "perfect" notes, but she has not proper articulation and would not fit to kiss Callas' shoe tops when it comes to artistry. Bland singing. Pavarotti is not the only tenor with overtones.
Hm, do you really think that Pavarotti is the most recognizable voice in the world? Have you heard Martinelli, Gigli, Corelli or even Kaufmann to name a few? They are of more distinction than Big P.
XP11XP 5 months ago
@XP11XP If you ask all people in the world who is the most recognizable voice ever 90 percent of them will say Pavarotti. It is proved by all music teachers and voice doctors that Pavarotti has the best overtones and the most recognizable voice ever.
NMEnrique 5 months ago
@NMEnrique
that doesn't prove anything. you could say the same of Hanna Montana, Britney Spears or Justin Timberlake. all it means is Pavarotti did more marketing and performances outside of the usual operatic audience
raigekimaru 5 months ago
@raigekimaru I say the music teachers and the scientists say that he is the most recognizable voice ever. That proves everything.
NMEnrique 5 months ago
@XP11XP And Sutherland ius better than Callas in every element of the voice.
NMEnrique 5 months ago
@XP11XP And tell me who is the another tenor with the overtones. We will see if his overtones are good.
NMEnrique 5 months ago
@Sebastian94338 Are you seriously suggesting that Callas had a better top than Sutherland? If so I suggest you book in for an ear transplant! Callas' top notes were often piercing and unsteady. However both she and Joan were truly great!
Also, Callas, Sutherland, Caballe, Pav, Domingo, et al, they all had to sing just one line and you knew who it was singing!
timsuffolk 4 months ago
@timsuffolk I mean that Joan Sutherland has a perfect voice but it is the classic bel canto voice and lacks in something really special Don't get me wrong, she is a unique artist,but when i hear Callas whose normal voice range is much deeper then Joan Sutherlands, but Maria still manages to sing such high notes i t takes my breath awayWhile Sutherland sings the aria i know that she is going to make a perfect top, that doesn't happen with Callas who sings the whole aria in a lower octave
Sebastian94338 4 months ago
@Sebastian94338
A lower octave? What are you talking about?
direfranchement 4 months ago
@Sebastian94338 Go listen to Ghena Dimitrova singing this aria, and Anna Shafajinskaia, they sound like altos in lower register, but have stratospheric heights!!!
barmanjoe 4 months ago
@timsuffolk and hitting the high note is really astouning. Of course it is sometimes unsteady but that is what she makes her unique apart from being a unique artist which i really do not see with Sutherland!
Sebastian94338 4 months ago
bravo la stupenda, we miss you!
johnb340 9 months ago
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This version is a bunch of crap...she suks kok...LOlol...get OVER it already...Callas WAS Tosca (AND every OTHER fukkin role she deigned to take on too!!)!!
TheMrMarilyn 9 months ago
wow, nunca habia escuchado a esta magnifica cantante.
peor me parece que es una version presiosa y bien lograda de tosca, una mas de las maravillozas interpretes que han echo de esta aria una de las mas escuchadas por mi.
janitolagos2010 9 months ago
Joan Sutherland was one of the greatest voices of all time. Anyone who would criticize her glorious legacy reveals their appalling ignorance and stupidity. Julian
JLevant1 10 months ago
@tenorismo
If that's true I would have loved to hear her Sarastro
Feisenbach 10 months ago
" la Stupenda ". She could have sung any part.
tenorismo 10 months ago
joannie, I didn't know your portamenti could be so beautiful in verismo music. brava! rip. my dear.
Gobbi2007 10 months ago
Vossi d'arte? o.o
argentummaty 11 months ago 2
@argentummaty You know, this is singing, this is opera, and distorting vowels in order to sing a beautiful note on pitch and with good projection is perfectly allowed if necessary, especially if the other alternative is to sing with a flawless pronounciation but a completely flawed note. That's why Opera fans like to accompany the music with subtitles or libretto even if they speak the language of the opera. You should also remember that the vowel "i" is one of the most difficult to sing.
Homoclassicus 9 months ago
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a wonderful artiste whose voice will always be remembered by those who appreciate great singing
jayantaw1 11 months ago
a wonderful artiste whose voice will always be remembered by those who appreciate great sining
jayantaw1 11 months ago
@jayantaw1 oops
i meant singing
jayantaw1 11 months ago
TRULY AMAZING ! Especially the ending notes. Only Callas and Kabaivanska deliver it that way
rudydobrev 1 year ago
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What the fuk are they CLAPPING like that for!!??Ahv juss listened to a number of different artists do the Vissi d'arte and NOBODY comes even CLOSE to Maria Callas' version!!This is DREADFUL!!
TheMrMarilyn 1 year ago
@TheMrMarilyn Really? And why do you say that? The acting leaves a LOT to be desired, but as for the singing, I don't believe there is much to criticize.
Telltaleheart79 1 year ago
@Telltaleheart79 Because there seems to be little comprehension by her of the dramatic situational awareness of the character she is meant to be portraying...it left me completely cold!!Her singing is alright...nothing special,which is why ah responded as ah did...this performance just doesn't warrant the excessive amount of applause that it receives,it's completely 'unbalanced' in mah opinion!!Mind yoo,ah don't know what that audience has been regularly subjected to regarding other portrayals!
TheMrMarilyn 1 year ago
@TheMrMarilyn
you kidding right? But your impersonation of a raving lunatic is very convincing.
JLevant1 10 months ago
@JLevant1 My comment is perfectly legitimate,and grammatically concise..which provokes the comment: And your impersonation of an illiterate twit is also extremely convincing!!Don't bother replying,as ah aint got the time or the interest in swopping insults,just because ah don't find this portrayal very 'moving'..and you obviously do!!Ahm perfectly comfortable with the fact that you like this...just as ahm comfortable with the fact ah don't!!Everyone doesn't have to like the same things ya know!!
TheMrMarilyn 10 months ago
@Telltaleheart79 Ahm not criticising her singing,as such...it's the whole thing...ah can't relly put mah finger on it...except to say that it dosen't 'move meh' the way Callas' does!!And...it was the audience's reaction to her performance that ah was initially commenting about as well...not so much her!!It's all fine though...everyone doesn't have to like/love the same things...and how fabulous for US that there is so much choice available also!!Love Em,x (Marilyn)
TheMrMarilyn 10 months ago
@TheMrMarilyn
Your dyslexia may also have impaired your hearing and your mental state I fear!
scotsw12 9 months ago 2
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TheMrMarilyn 9 months ago
@scotsw12 Unfortunately, I do not understand your comment not recognising the language you are using. I am sure it is well though and illuminating though and thank you for taking the trouble to write it!
scotsw12 9 months ago
@scotsw12 Ahm sorry for yo ugliness...you have mah profound sympathy...for that AND being sonically challenged!!Now piss off and get a life...Callas RULES...ner ner ne ner nbeeeRRRR!!
TheMrMarilyn 9 months ago
@TheMrMarilyn Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I only speak English and am not sure what language you are using here. I am sure La Divina would not approve though!
scotsw12 5 months ago 2
@scotsw12 Callas fukkin LOVES me,you illiterate dwarf PMSL!!Anyway...being serious for half a second...my so called 'mental state' is,thank you very much,more than perfectly adequate for the needs it is required to serve,and your commenting on anyone else's state of mind (such as calling it into question) is FAR more revelatory about you and your prejudices and oversized ego,than any (alleged) humor to be found in mental health issues or learning disabilities!!And on THAT note...
TheMrMarilyn 5 months ago
ma lui è tito gobbi?
ferrykalos 1 year ago
This is exceptionally beautiful.
AccidentalTouch 1 year ago
Vestuario vulgar...
mephystofeles 1 year ago
@mephystofeles Vulgar e vc...Idiota...
toddydelahov 11 months ago
R.I.P Sing With The Angels!!!
immature0916 1 year ago 4
Gorgeous!
dsenRuskin 1 year ago
How nice it is not to cringe at the sustained high notes.
jondavwal 1 year ago
Great Tosca!
teatrumuzical 1 year ago 3
So rich an experience, hearing her - Many others somehow don't bring out the melodic lines in this aria. They are there, but it takes her phrasing to bring them out.
SebastianBach99 1 year ago
Beautiful...she disorts the vowels a bit though.. can't really hear the text.
qw3rtydud3 1 year ago
She was extraordinary. Thank God for recordings and rest in peace Dame Joan.
bigjoetube 1 year ago 2
I love the grumpy Scarpio in the background for the last few measures! His face is hilarious!
PhilosoFeline 1 year ago
RIP, La Stupenda.
jerems0410 1 year ago
RIP
gary710711 1 year ago
RIP Dame Sutherland, Bravo!
cannedpoo 1 year ago 2
I bet she's giving those angelic choirs in heaven a run for the money with that voice. God bless her!
sslohier 1 year ago 15
How lovely she looks.
Sleep peacefully, mia cara Joanie
LaMostraESopra 1 year ago 2
Adieu Madame et bravo!
LePoulpe05 1 year ago 2
RIP dame Sutherland. We will miss you.
darepow 1 year ago 13
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I love her plummy VOHYSIH d'arte!!! Bel canto indeed. RIP La Stupenda.
maestrotim 1 year ago
I love her plummy VOHYSIH d'arte!!! Bel canto indeed.
maestrotim 1 year ago
RIP. you will be missed. We can only aspire to be as great as you in our wildest dreams.
julespeare 1 year ago
Hasta siempre.
qwelk 1 year ago
Good bye, Dame Joan... and thank you!
PinkyLadybird 1 year ago 2
RIP... An invaluable and unsurpassable DIVA, God bless :) xxx
emma41093 1 year ago
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Rest in peace with the angels, Joan. We will always miss you!!!
missvivalaopera 1 year ago
Rest in peace with the angels, Joan. We will always miss you!!!
missvivalaopera 1 year ago
R.I.P. dear Joan
zauberkreis 1 year ago
Sad sad day for the opera world. What a great loss
fpngan 1 year ago
R.I.P. Dame Joan Sutherland (1926-2010)
mimidu1 1 year ago 3
if joan sutherland was a good actor as much as singer she would have been the ultimate soprano
MrMrmike5 1 year ago
what year is this?
raigekimaru 1 year ago
Bravísima.
JaumeAragall 1 year ago
the orchestra is running fast in this
thekillerbeach 1 year ago
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missgreeneyes56 1 year ago
Buenas, me podrian decir en que año fue esta grabacion? gracias
josepliric 1 year ago
Joan Sutherland sings TOSCA Vissi d'arte
ac3761G 1 year ago
I like to hear coloraturas in dramatic roles and dramatic voices such was Callas'es in highest notes!
humangeorge 1 year ago
i'm for freni as Tosca...
dennisdeemii 1 year ago
are those diamonds? is they are... HOLLY MOLLY! that's an expensive costume!
lhkuminek 1 year ago
Many people criticize her performance.. too me she is great. Dame Sutherland have great voice,we all know that, maybe Tosca is not the best role for her but i think she did a good job here.
ArchiducDeBelgrade 1 year ago 3
@ArchiducDeBelgrade I agree with you. Tosca isn't her kind of role, but she has got such a solid technique and timbre that allows her to do a good job here too!
soundslikeblue 1 year ago
as with most singers, there is a balance between voice and words - Joan's diction was never very good - but one forgave her because of the voice ... Callas sacrificed sheer beauty for high drama ... one forgave her also.
lhrlyc 1 year ago
@lhrlyc it's a shame the media and public care more for looks rather than vocal quality... "it's trash, so I guess people like to buy trash" I wonder what Callas sounded like before her weight loss? She was apparently as big as Sutherland (which is good, muscles were lost as well the fat). Joan is exquisite, can't deny that
dangmills 1 year ago
fantastica como siempre.pero es una voz excesiva para verismo.todos queremos a sutherland.y el sello sutherland es indiscutible y hermoso.pero la intensidad verista es otra a la belcantista.que cantaba como nadie esto es cierto .pero esta aria la cantaron mejor otras.a lo mejor ella tampoco puso mucho interes en hacerlo mejor.porque dotes tenia.pero ella ciertas cosas las trato con mucha ligeresa.el verismo y wagner.asi que escuchesmosla donde es la reina.en el belcanto.
bellini7verdi 1 year ago
Who understand ANYTHING of what she says???? She starts singing ¨VOssi d´arte, vOssi d´amore¨. ¨furtivO¨, ¨perche gnore¨ (what about the ¨si¨) etc... So, great voice, not a great style or respect for the composer. And the very same flaws (EVEN MORE) in the coloratura repertoire, where she never pronounced a word as written. Anyways, she was GREAT ONE, but... let´s not exagerate. And let´s not talk about her ¨Norma¨ (hers, not Bellini´s).
Tosca3211 1 year ago
@Tosca3211 Please explain me why you say she doesn't respect the composer (especially in the case of Norma, since she was the FIRST Norma in the 20th century to sing "Casta diva" in the original key intended by Bellini). I'd also like to know if you didn't ever learn that singing often requires distortion of the vowel sounds in order to sing the notes with better projection and steadiness on pitch. Sutherland was a marvelous technician, and no wonder had the best pitch and vocal projection.
Homoclassicus 1 year ago
@Tosca3211 her own technique of singing probabily interfered with the pronounciation of the lyrics, she still sang with great style
MrMrmike5 1 year ago
It sounds more like she's nostalgically longing for something... not my favourite interpretation by any stretch, but out of usual repetoire this is still amazing!
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philipc67 1 year ago
I can feel the echo the ring the resonance the power
thomastmwc 1 year ago
Bravaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Schollistico 1 year ago
I would like to jump into the fray.
All above so true but what an absolute joy to hear her singing this most gorgeous of arias. Leontyne with Karajan on disc probably one of the most thrilling, Kiri at her best sublime, Leonie Rysanek on her stomach heavenly, Lubja Welitsch out of this world and all the rest. Try the movie I live for art. Vissi D'arte with all the greatest including Tebaldi, Callas, Albanese, Olivero and more, truly transporting. A must for all lovers of the aria. Cheers
flyboytim 1 year ago
There was a point at which Sutherland said that she wanted to sing Tosca when she got to be 50 (I think she assumed that the coloratura days would be finished). I'm glad she stuck with the repertoire in which she was nonpareil. Catface, maybe I didn't express myself well enough. Being that Tebaldi is my favorite Tosca, I have no objection to a breath before "Signor". 99% of Toscas do that, and it's fine. But if a huge voice such as Sutherland's could do without it, why not try?
Richiesutherland 1 year ago
I just don't like how tense her mouth is. Yes, she is an amazing singer, but after watching her sing, my lips feel tense!
alexandriabradley 1 year ago
you can tell she's like "this is easy"
raigekimaru 1 year ago
This certainly is an interesting Vissi d'arte. The diction is not all bad. I think the worse period was between 62-66. Unfortunately this I feel highlights her lack of dramatic conviction. It's the same with Caballe. But the voice the voice is amazing. I think the only role she succeeds with Puccini is Turandot and Sour Angelica. She did perform as Madama Butterfly when she was a junior artist at ROH!!. That would be incredible to hear if it was possible.
domi2020 2 years ago
Why NOT a Sutherland Tosca on stage?It was the largest and EASIEST sounding voice I ever heard liv'absolutely large enough.I think it wasn't enough of a vocal challenge for her;she was busy singing roles that no one else could,a wise move(no one still can...still waiting for anyone in the ball park)...I also don't get the pronunciation problems;any modificatons of vowels isn't as severe as what you say;She worked it out to produce that effortless(seemingly) voice,unique like all great artists...
lastupendaboy 2 years ago
Beautiful despite the poor vowel intonation (Vosso d'Arte, Porcheeee Signor). Large, bright tone. She sings the "Perche Signor" in one breath, I think this is how Puccini wrote it. Callas does the same in her famous 1953 recording with de Sabata. Caballe would do a long, descending diminuendo on the "Singor", also very impressive. Tebaldi was famous for her "Vissi d'Arte" but at the limit of her high range.
Joan here is really good but she could never be a stage Tosca.
philipc67 2 years ago 2
Any other Tosacs out there who can sing Lucia, Elvira, Amina, Alcina, Anna Bolena, Norma, Lucrezia Borgia et al? Jest asking. . . (Callas to one side of course.) However I am glad she did not stick with Puccini - there are many who can sing it but not so in the fach she astonished in. Still its interesting to her a great artist in something out of her usual balliwick.
NotNellie 2 years ago
RichieSuther You are being overly pedantic. There is NOT a one size fits all solution to performance challenges. You can not say that E flat is too low for vowel modification. Depending on the colour desired and the voice it might be a good artistic choice. kgaemarker is right about the extra breath before signor being required for bigger voices or if a singer desires to make a larger climactic moment. Puccini wouldn't have worried about properly distributed vowels just a fine performance.
catface1965 2 years ago
i love hearing the A diminuendo after the Bflat.
musoph21 2 years ago
Vosso d'arte, Vosso d'arte...
CantoSemper49 2 years ago
Si chiama oscurimento di vocale : la Sutherland ( cantante che ammiro moltissimo ) era nota per coprire mediante oscurimento di vocale i vari suoni passaggio. Altri grandi cantanti lirici ( tra cui lo stesso A. Kraus ) sostenevano invece che tali oscurimenti fossero più dannosi che altro in quanto porterebbero indietro la voce.
31122051 2 years ago
her dark tone is exactly why i don't care much for her voice. and I apologise if you don't speak English, i just can't write in italian; i can only interpret it. =\
CantoSemper49 2 years ago
dark tone? I think her voice is bright and heroic sounding. for a dark voice, try Renee Fleming, Eva Marton, Marisa Galvany, Maria Callas, or Leontyne Price.
raigekimaru 2 years ago
I don't think I meant to say dark tone, there's just something about her voice I dislike...It kind of sounds like her voice is...'dampened'? maybe its just me...
raigekimaru, are you stalking me? you seem to comment on everything I have commented on! ^.^ haha
CantoSemper49 2 years ago
@CantoSemper49 - I couldn't agree more. It got worse as she got older. I always refer to it as if she had a plumb in her throat. Montseratt had the same thing as she got older too. I often find Joan mechanical, and Verismo is all wrong for her. She just cant get all that love and desperation into the voice, and often for that you need to sacrifice a little technique.
Ahdren 1 year ago
@Ahdren Thank you for agreeing with me! I feel as though so many people are in love with her voice, and I just don't feel accustomed to it. The 'plum' is a perfect example of her voice's color. When she was younger and did more exciting coloratura passages, her voice came across as exciting, but in recent years, it had been dulled.
CantoSemper49 1 year ago
@CantoSemper49 lol
musoph21 2 years ago
Jogadu, Sutherland fue una excelente soprano de coloratura., en su tiempo la mejor. Pero Tosca no era para ella, como tampoco Medea, Abigail, Lady Macbeth. Elvira de Hernani, Gioconda, Marguerita de Boito o Manon Lescaut. Y no se le entiende. Hay otras sopranos excelentes a las que si se les entiende. Pasa que muchas como Gencer, Negri etc. no tuvieron la repercusión discografica que ella tuvo. En cuanto escuchar ópera, escucho mucha, en vivo o grabada. Mis favoritas:
lydiaguarro 2 years ago
I really would not have thought this was for her before hearing this, but she is amazing.
Plowrightclips 2 years ago
no se le entiende nada. Escuchen a Magda Olivero y vean la diferencia
lydiaguarro 2 years ago
logicamente que si no estas acostumbrado a escuchar opera, pues no le vas a entender, puesto que alas sopranos por la colocacion de la vos y las notas agudas siempre tienen problemas con la pronunsiacion pero en fin alo mejor a magda se le entienda mas pero no tiene la vos de la sutherland
jogadu1992 2 years ago
My only criticism of this is the vowels are distorted, particularly The ee vowels of Vissi.. they are modified to some form of O .. and frankly this is too low to modify vowels, i see no reason why from middle c to the F at the top of the staff, sopranos cannot sing the vowels nearly as written, so that we understand the text. But I can still make out the words here..
kgarmaker123 2 years ago 3
I agree that the Eb on Vissi is too low for vowel modification. This was a habit she had in the mid-60s when this was made. which she later discarded. Ironically, she sings a perfectly clear "i" on the final word, "cosi" here, which is on the same pitch! More importantly, she was the only soprano at the time to sing the phrase with the Bb as Puccini wrote it, with the syllables properly distributed and WITHOUT the gulp for air before "Signor". Everyone else did the standard rewrite.
Richiesutherland 2 years ago 3
i like the phrasing. Some of the gulping for air, is frankly how big the perche before it is sung and the perche immediately preceeding the b flat(signor) Some sopranos are singing with a lot more air, and volume.. and as a result need to breathe before the b flat. i prefer this treatment.
kgarmaker123 2 years ago
Tremenda!!!Brava!!
danielpavarotti 2 years ago
B R A V I S S I M A !!!!!!
callastoujours 2 years ago
es una de las mejores versiones de vissi d arte joan sutherland definitivamente tiene una de las mejores voces solo comparable con la de la callas aun que esta version ami criterio es mejor que la de la callas, ¡¡¡viva la diva joan sutherland!!!
jogadu1992 2 years ago
@jogadu1992 Estimado, La Callas no tenia una linda voz, es mas a los 50 años ya no cantaba ni "La cucaracha", siempre tuvo 3 registros bien notorios y a los 50 acusaba un tremolo pesado signo de desgaste, pobrecita quizas por la vida llena de dolor que tuvo... No voy a negar que era una gran cantante y gran actriz, pero el timbre de la Stupenda fue siempre maravilloso, quizas no tanto en el verismo, pero en el bel canto fue insuperable.
acitipo 1 year ago
@acitipo si su rango de e-flat a e-flat.
NEBESHIKU 1 year ago
This is my first time seeing Ms. Sutherland singing that BEAUTIFUL INTERPRETATION. I sure enjoyed it very very much. Every Diva uses her own way..and that makes it FANTASTICO/AMAZING/OWESOME/ ETC. Thanks so much for allowing me to listen and enjoy every beatiful interpretation.
Tenorbravo 2 years ago 3
more respect for maddame Callas....as Maria and Joan were and will always be greatest divas of opera and bel canto!!!!! each on her own way!!!!
webbersarahlover 2 years ago 15
@webbersarahlover . i did not know sutherland sang tosca. did she preform tosca on stage? AND WHERE
bobboy4642002 1 year ago
Always these ignorant Callas fanatics. Forget her, Tebaldi owned these verismo arias. Callas voice was much overated. Sutherland surpassed her in many arias. Callas acting was her forte.
gigie555 2 years ago
kinda agree
minkoss 2 years ago
i agree. callas acting was a revolution in the opera world, but she is not the only great singer...
anassoralosi 2 years ago
That realy is a stunning performance!!
Plowrightclips 2 years ago
Gobbi asked Sutherland to do Tosca with him on the stage (and he knew a thing or two about what makes a good Tosca!) but she refused. She had other plans. Probably very wise coz Callas fans would have been pissed off. But Gobbi obviously saw that Sutherland was unique and amazing and could offer something very special to the part too.
64marc64 2 years ago
all you callas nuts, sutherland nuts, caballe nuts, sills nuts, tebaldi nuts, freni nuts, price nuts, bumbry nuts, milanov nuts, pons nuts, peters nuts, nillsson nuts, horne nuts, ponselle nuts, rysanek nuts, melba nuts, tetrazzini im nuts about these incredible singers. what they all do with their differing vocal instruments is what 99.9999999999999999 percent of the rest of the human race can't do. callas owned tosca, sutherland never performed it, but a beuatiufl lyric vissi d'arte here!
mmbriggs 2 years ago 4
Well said !
And most of the rubbish people write is about their taste rather than valid comments about technique etc.
Plowrightclips 2 years ago
OMG! Where the duol, passion and suffering of that part 've gone???
gomongio 2 years ago
I think this is a beautiful performance of this aria. It might lack some of the drama that other singers have given it (Callas), but like Callas, Caballe, and Ponselle it is being sung by someone who can sing the bel canto repertoire.
operaboy81 2 years ago
She is pitch perfect here as always. I admire her for stepping outside of her normal coloratura area and singing Tosca, though this is not my favorite interpretation of the aria. But you just have to hear whatever she chooses to sing, because she is such a pro. She's one of the greatest divas of all time.
dt195k2 2 years ago 15
@dt195k2
actually I think this is from before Richard "rescued" her and introduced her to her coloratura career (when she was training as a dramatic soprano). we're fortunate that he did as, depending on the hands she was in, joan sutherland could have ended up as a lyric coloratura, a lyric soprano or a dramatic soprano. perhaps there are more dramatic coloratura sopranos out there but they are just misclassified as joan almost was
raigekimaru 1 year ago
I really like her version. I wasn't aware of it until this clip. Her phrasing is different than how most sopranos perform this aria which serves her well. Her high b-flat is effortless, on-pitch, and well-placed...beautiful job!
fiesco7 2 years ago 3
is the Bb5 at 2.50?
dungaboyd1 2 years ago
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I just don't get it.
The technique is good, but it's fairly artless singing, and the tempo is too fast.
She's singing that high b-flat as if it was something out of Wagner, sans all of the pathos and incredibly dramatic emotion that the note must convey.
aaltobartok 2 years ago
I see what you mean. Indeed that b-flat is rather bland. However, I do actually think this faster tempo conveys this aria in a different dimension: I feel that if it's too slow, the audience are too overcome with emotion, and the rendition becomes slightly tiresome and heavy by the end. Tell me what you think!
eugenelohks 2 years ago
And what's this nonsense about a fast tempo? It's just that today's conductors drag this aria out interminably so that, yes, it does sound tiresome and heavy, and phrase-by-phrase. This used to be a perfectly normal tempo for the aria, kids. The conductor, btw, is Donald Voorhees.
Richiesutherland 2 years ago
There couldnt be artless singing on this level, just artelss critical observations without any respect and balance. All these performers add their own voice and their own understanding to each piece...you can like it or not but to call it artless is certainly a sign of snobbish arrogant and ignorant stupidity and a shows some shortcomings in understanding capability...
chris99103 2 years ago 4
Her interpretation is perhaps less dramatic than Callas or others, but I wouldn't say it's artless. She simply has her own interpretation. And the b-flat is flawless. I'm curious as to why you think Wagner's music doesn't require pathos and dramatic emotion (some of his stuff is as dramatic and wrenching as it gets). Perhaps not the best comparison to use if you are pointing out a lack of drama.
opmaus 2 years ago 3
what utter garbage. "Artless"--do you know what that means? Bb--you think it sounds like Wagner because it's loud? "pathos and incredibly dramatic emotion"--the NOTE does that itself. Do you think that only notes wrenched from the singers' throats have pathos? She is also one of the very few who sings the line with the Bb as written, without the extra break before "Signor". Okay, she's not Tebaldi in this, but it's great singing.
Richiesutherland 2 years ago
Well I will take Joan on this one.. Tebaldi was simply too much work for me to listen to.. The High B flat sounded like it was the top of her voice, which above the staff turned hard and edgy. My guess this was recorded when Joan was younger rather than older, as there is not the wobble that intruded in the middle voice.. This is a bit understated, but it is beautiful . I prefer a more dramatic decrescendo on the A flat, but at least it is there.
kgarmaker123 2 years ago 3
Okay, this probably isn't the absolute most appropriate thing she ever recorded, but one must admit - that high b flat at the end has never been sung with greater ease or beauty!
nectenorboi09 2 years ago 4
i admit to prefering callas overall but i certainly don't hate sutherland--i admire her too, just not her interpretation of this particular aria.
divinafan2 3 years ago 2
joan Sitherland is the best Tosca , combining perfect voice technique and expression. Callas had the expression but imperfect voice , Joan has it all. breathtaking! divine!
xXxskayaxXx 3 years ago
8Micky4
I am sorry you have no clue.
You have my sympathy.
Have you no knowledge of Opera?
Why are you here at all?
Do you not know that Dame Joan Sutherland is the greatest COLORATURA SOPRANO of this century?
Nhlvrnfla 3 years ago 2
just guessing, but maybe he meant lyric? still a bizarre comment, though.
tomonetruth 3 years ago
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Unbelieavable... A contralto that sings as a soprano. I can't hear it.
8Micky4 3 years ago
What the heck are you talking about ?
kngiht84 3 years ago 2
Only I can say, She is "La Stupenda" forever.
Magnific.!!!!:O
danielpavarotti 3 years ago 2
outofthebag,
I, too, wish she had decided to sing more Puccini. I have her recording of "Turandot". Richard would never let her sing it on stage. But the recording is sublime. In my opionion. Some have said her voice was too "sweet" for role.
How can a voice be "too sweet"?
Dame Joan was/is blessed with the light ability to dance around the coloratura that many are not, and even if they are, they for sure won't sound as good as she does.
Nhlvrnfla 3 years ago