Jerry Mander - Globalization and Indigenous Cultures

[LoveiiDeanji766]

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[zmitregnistegra]

another white anthropologist speaking for us and presenting us (indigenous peoples) to academia and the rest of the world.

[sauticml]

@zmitregnistegra : As far as I know, Mander was never an anthropologist....he was actually in advertising of all things and worked on many campaigns to support indigenous people. He wrote at least 2 great books that are very helpful in understanding the impact of media and technology on indigenous and modern cultures.....now the other part, the speaking for us and presenting us to academia and the rest of the world is right on the money. I think he's got more to offer than any anthropologist.

[zaitss]

@zmitregnistegra WE ARE ALL INDIGENOUS (but forgotten a long time ago!)

[sauticml]

@zaitss - Ashe! We are all the products of indigenous peoples and would do well to remember that and move forward living those traditions in whatever new way we will or must.

[zaitss]

I have a proj with indigenous people, could anyone give me the e-mail contact of this great man Jerry Mander?

[sauticml]

@zaitss : He is in the realm of the Ancestors right now.....or waiting to get fully sent.

[zaitss]

@sauticml your comment let me confused...coul you explain?

[sauticml]

@zaitss - I meant that Jerry Mander is dead. In my tradition, ritual and grief is necessary to truly empower and Ancestor, to fully send them to the realm of the Ancestors. My statement suggested that he may not have been Ancestralized, as we call it.

[zaitss]

@sauticml I cannot find any info that Jerry Mander is dead!

Is that a joke? Cos I can't find it funny!

[sauticml]

@zaitss - no joke intended...that would be rude and disrespectful...not my goal. I heard he had passed on a while back. I HOPE I heard wrong. His perspective is important to hear either way.

[jj55ss44]

you would-it would-you would very rarely hear a "non-indigenous" person use a phrase like mother earth or that buys that idea or that calls--calls animals and trees brothers and sisters...and that's what we need of course, are some of those values, for the present time."

This guy should walk his talk go live permanently with the Dene he loves so much and get away from the evil "modern world" and stop annoying the rest of us who live here and don't buy into his stupid spoutings.

[A732453]

@jj55ss44

Just goes to show how narrow-minded some people are. The point he's trying to make is not that the "modern world" is evil, but that our whole view of the environment, which largely comes from the Bible, is that the world's resources were placed at our disposal for us to exploit it. Many people take and take from the environment but how many people do you know give back to it? The indigenous people and their "traditional views" just have a different way of viewing the world and the

[A732453]

@jj55ss44

environment. They believe in balance and equality among all beings. You may not realize this because of your simpleton way of thinking but every component of the biodiversity around us is complex and the environment would be in a very different condition if we altered our anthropocentric views!!

[sauticml]

@jj55ss44 : It interests me why you might have spent so much time to listen to his "stupid spoutings". I'd love to hear why....and what it was that he said that struck such a deep chord in you that you would express what seems like anger. Clearly there is something here to contend with that resonates within you.

[openyourmind678]

Anyone who shares interest in the corruption and coercion of bigger government and bigger business should study Ludwig Von Mises, Murray Rothbard or youtube: Lew Rockwell Podcast.

[mikezephyr]

seems like everyone in this culture should re-evaluate civilization now. and then promptly proceed to dismantle dominator society.

[boogiebuddy01]

why do people still write books?

13 years to write it omg!

please instead spend 13 years getting more people computers with an internet connection.

[underdog3]

Books are better then the Internet, they have more information, require more dedication, cover a topic more specifically, have more to say and provided a good source of entertainment. Reading on-line is less focused and can be worse for your eyes.

13 years from now the Internet will be a massive advertisement regulated the way TV is now.

[boogiebuddy01]

not true

[underdog3]

What part?

[dbrauer43]

Also, as stated in Jerry Mander's Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television, books can be read and understood in conjunction with the mental capacity of the reader. The Internet just shoves things in front of your face, but with books you can go at your own speed and overall learn better due to the fact that you can go at your own pace.

[underdog3]

technically you can go at your own pace on-line but I would almost always prefer a book.

[bendymind]

Me too. We should make the paper out of hemp though.

[bendymind]

How about writing your book and making it available online?

[boogiebuddy01]

good idea and also in audiobook form

[underdog3]

Yeah hemp would be a better resource for making paper.

My book is available online, check my profile for a link, no audiobook yet.

[mkemerson]

Jerry's comment about how we can't have infinite growth is right on. This is the paradigm that permeates our entire global economy, and before we can make any changes in how we treat this planet we have to change that paradigm. He is right, sustainable economy means stability and sustenance, not infinite and destructive growth.

[solboard]

I love his book, The Four Arguments... Even though it was written 29-30 years ago, it is more now true than ever before.

[marieke1008]

inspiring!