I'm sick and tired of people saying one pilot group is better or worse than another. At any major carrier you are going to get the very cream of the crop, period. Of course, they are still human, and can even make dumb mistakes (the NWA pilots overshooting MSP by 150 miles), but they are simply the best.
@Meirele So, does slamming the plane, opening it like a sardine can and spilling people all over the runway make the pilot a man? Maybe you need to sit in the wheel well one of these flights. Have A Nice Day.
@SenorSpode Hi there! No of course not....killing people is never a good option. I think I was a bit raw...what i meant was: "I think you hesitated". I know it's always easy from outside, but I also know that some pilots are not that good, too...A good day to you too!, Cheers!
@Meirele For al fairness on the matter: I've been on flights where a good pilot on a good day mucked up the approach and landing, or where a so-so pilot had to combat stormy fall weather but still stuck the landing very good. The former was encountered twice in Phoenix in terrific weather; the last of those two landings saw our United Airbus edge off the runway. I was at a window seat and when we hit the runway there was no runway in sight looking down. Just turf.
@SASD209. You're an idiot. Southwest has the best safety record of any airlines in the world. Not a single fatality in its entire history. Only one incident, and in that incident, the plane was on the ground-- it's wingtip making contact with an obstruction. Why do idiots make comments about the videos when they have no idea what they are talking about? Oh, that's right--they're idiots!
@dantemike1 I love Southwest but it's not accurate to say they've only had a single incident. You might want to look up Southwest 1455 and Southwest 1248, the latter of which did result in a fatality. That won't stop me from flying them, though.
@dantemike1 Heh... your rant about Southwest's safety record should have stopped with "they have the best". The rest of it was full of fail. They have a bit of a "overrun" history at BUR and MDW (twice at MDW now but only once when you posted your comment). So your bit about "why do idiots make comments about the videos when they have no idea what they are talking about?" was particularly impressive.
In heavy crosswinds landing attempts it is better to do a missed approach, pull up on the control yoke and go around. That is what is taught in flight school. That is better than crashing the plane with lives onboard don't you think?
@lhrlyc yes that word failed bothered me too...but the captain made a good decision to pull back up but im sure to try and land and not be able to then go around and try again is frustrating to the captain and first officer
@thermo1984. Video was taken at the Burbank Airport in L.A. The hills (or actually maountains) you saw in the background were the San Gabriel Mountains
my comment, by the way, was in response to @ninjastar404's silly comment , and I quote: "true that i heard they barly have inspections to." he not only has way too much time that he doesn't fill with gray matter exercises - he can't spell, either...
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The pilot was probably told to land visual (no autopilot); now he's declaring a missed approach and probably requesting an ILS landing approach for the same runway. As a result, the autopilot will handle the next approach and the pilot will turn off the autopilot at inner marker (if so equipped), just before touchdown.
I realised that after I posted that you don't disengage the autopilot at inner marker. However, I sure wouldn't use visual methods to land a plane when told to go ILS. Perhaps that's why we have Glide Slope and Localiser antennae on major airports and their runways? I sure wouldn't try to prove anything in a 150-ton jet with people aboard. Equipment is cheaper than pride...and liability lawsuits.
southwest is probably the safest airline around. I have flown with southwest since 1986 and I never encountered any problems. This is my preferred airline and will always be!
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Yeah, but their planes blow. Honestly, if they purchased better quality parts and upgrades for their planes, I promise you; they would have 1/16 of the problems the have now. That is why everyone flies Northwest and Spirit.
"facts" man, just the facts. NW is flying DC-9s that average 34 years of age, which were made 15 years before you were born. And you are telling SWA to "upgrade"
bullshit. no industry whose sole livelyhood relies on safe, reliable transportation of human beings is going to skimp on inspections - especially in the current economic environment, you moron. it would only take one fatal tragedy to spell the end of their corporate life. they're not going to risk skimping on safety inspections. go play with your crayons and coloring books, loser.
Not true. Most Southwest pilots do not have a military background. A lot of pilots that are flying these days are seasoned pilots that labored through years of hell in the Regionals before stepping up to the 737. SWA hires more pilots because it's easier to train on the 737 rather than specialize in a variety such as Delta/Northwest, United, and US Airways (Boeing and Airbus fleets).
i once did one of thoose in fsx in a rain storm it was a success but i came in a little low but other than that it was good i also tuched down at 95 knots
What airport is this? Even though it is a crosswind landing attempt, it APPEARS that they were lining up to a different runway at the last minute. I know this is not ATL, but I've seen that happen at ATL a few times.
@SunLoungerMX yeah i think almost if not all southwest planes are 737's they used to be mixed in with 727's but those hardly or dont fly at all anymore...i say hardly because i did see two take off a month ago from manchester, NH airport but they werent carrying people im sure cuz they were not placed at a gate they were being housed for a couple of weeks then one day i went back to the airport and they flew out of manchester...and yes it was a 727 haha trust me if you have doubts lol
Commercial Pilots train for these situations constantly. Probably the passengers were more concerned with a missed approach than the pilots. The approach was not stabilized so they went around, is the right choice instead of trying to force the landing.
I experienced a missed approach on Southwest about 6 months ago. We were making a steady descent and turned onto the crosswind leg to land. If felt the plane level out for a moment and then we made a turn and climbed out of the approach. The pilot came on and explained that "they weren't ready for us" on the ground (another plane on the runway). No big deal.
These aren't Santa Ana winds though, are they? I cannot think of a time with clouds like that under Santa Ana wind conditions. Did the pilot go around and land on the other runway?
These are the winds from the North right after a storm comes through, which is probably why the clouds are still around, rather than the dry Santa Anas. He would've had to fly around and try to land on 33 again
I never remember seeing clouds with the Santa Ana winds, so I agree that they must be from a passing system. Is Rwy 33 typical for Santa Ana winds anyway? I know those winds usually come from the east, but in the Valley, I suppose they could come from a more northerly direction. I would have guessed Rwy 8 would be used if they were Santa Ana winds. I have never been in or out of Burbank, so I don't know. I agree that this looks like a winter system.
While rwy 8 is the preferred landing runway. The Santa Ana winds generally come from the north, so they switch to the 33 visual, which features a very short final after a sharp left-base turn after following the 101 freeway inbound, kind of similar to the expressway approach to LaGuardia rwy 31. If the Santa Anas switch to a NE direction, they'll use 8 to land and 33 for take-offs. I've landed on 33 a couple of times, it's a trip.
I happen to be in Burbank right now, but did not fly in here. It hit 105 degrees yesterday. Planes needed ever inch of runway to take off in that kind of heat without wind. The expressway approach in LaGuardia is great. Never flown it, but have seen it on YouTube.
Last time I landed on 33 the wind was probably no more than 10 knots, the approach wasn't even bumpy. I know those Santa Ana winds can get pretty gnarly most of the time.
Dang I ain't no pro with airplanes yet but I can already tell he was to high or she was to high and going kinda fast
RobloxianTHTROL 2 weeks ago
I'm sick and tired of people saying one pilot group is better or worse than another. At any major carrier you are going to get the very cream of the crop, period. Of course, they are still human, and can even make dumb mistakes (the NWA pilots overshooting MSP by 150 miles), but they are simply the best.
TheCannonofMohammed 1 month ago
This is why they installed the TO/GA button. It was a wise decision to go around and hope that conditions are more favorable for a safe landing.
blembree1 2 months ago
unless you are a pilot flying in wild weather conditions, thinking you know better is hilarious. Southwest pilots are amazing.
stewardesselizabeth 4 months ago
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SuperRetroGameplay 4 months ago
Drunk pilots now theses days?
Crazzy4Chicago 6 months ago
Approach speed did not look stabilized. Wise move.
w5cdt 7 months ago 3
Scary.
Timmerjax 8 months ago
Dang. that small plane is getting tossed and turned like a toy!
inarockstar1 9 months ago
This is BUR - Burbank, California
dandersonla 9 months ago
at one point it looks like the left wing has a winglet but the right wing doesn't
kyvegas00 11 months ago
Very good video of S-turns for spacing. Nice Vid!
jmillsf18 1 year ago
what airport was it?
haoobpunk 1 year ago
PUSSY!
Meirele 1 year ago
@Meirele So, does slamming the plane, opening it like a sardine can and spilling people all over the runway make the pilot a man? Maybe you need to sit in the wheel well one of these flights. Have A Nice Day.
SenorSpode 5 months ago
@SenorSpode Hi there! No of course not....killing people is never a good option. I think I was a bit raw...what i meant was: "I think you hesitated". I know it's always easy from outside, but I also know that some pilots are not that good, too...A good day to you too!, Cheers!
Meirele 5 months ago
@Meirele For al fairness on the matter: I've been on flights where a good pilot on a good day mucked up the approach and landing, or where a so-so pilot had to combat stormy fall weather but still stuck the landing very good. The former was encountered twice in Phoenix in terrific weather; the last of those two landings saw our United Airbus edge off the runway. I was at a window seat and when we hit the runway there was no runway in sight looking down. Just turf.
SenorSpode 5 months ago
is that in toncontin ??
Olseanic55 1 year ago
@Olseanic55 southwest doesnt fly to honduras....
grannyruth1419 1 year ago
@grannyruth1419 i know dude...i live in Honduras.....But some times they
send planes of airlines for immigrants....
Olseanic55 1 year ago
@Olseanic55 Nah Southwest doesn't fly out of the country, yet....
c172kid 1 year ago
any body else get goose bumps because i did...
:)
ronaldbuffalo2 1 year ago
hm, needs more cowbell.
syngates4life11 1 year ago 3
bad pilot(s)
RobertM0 1 year ago
@RobertM0 really? if your such an expert and were there and saw the conditions, please, do better
TheSoloPilot 1 year ago
wow nice try but thats almost impossible
jesster777 1 year ago
@SASD209. You're an idiot. Southwest has the best safety record of any airlines in the world. Not a single fatality in its entire history. Only one incident, and in that incident, the plane was on the ground-- it's wingtip making contact with an obstruction. Why do idiots make comments about the videos when they have no idea what they are talking about? Oh, that's right--they're idiots!
dantemike1 1 year ago
@dantemike1 I love Southwest but it's not accurate to say they've only had a single incident. You might want to look up Southwest 1455 and Southwest 1248, the latter of which did result in a fatality. That won't stop me from flying them, though.
ag3498 1 year ago
@dantemike1 Heh... your rant about Southwest's safety record should have stopped with "they have the best". The rest of it was full of fail. They have a bit of a "overrun" history at BUR and MDW (twice at MDW now but only once when you posted your comment). So your bit about "why do idiots make comments about the videos when they have no idea what they are talking about?" was particularly impressive.
IADaveMark 9 months ago
In heavy crosswinds landing attempts it is better to do a missed approach, pull up on the control yoke and go around. That is what is taught in flight school. That is better than crashing the plane with lives onboard don't you think?
49timi 1 year ago
And this is how BUR and MDW happen. Non-stable approach. At least these guys did the right thing.. GO AROUND!
drewinatl 1 year ago
thats why u dont fly southwest......flying deathtraps haha
SASD209 1 year ago
@SASD209 hey they didnt crash. Thats pretty good piloting in my opinion
wettfeat 1 year ago
First officer
Wrong airfield, sir...
Captain yanks back on the controls and throttles up. Captain
God dammit!
GamblesGranma 1 year ago 2
go around
lgibbs137 1 year ago
I would say that this is NOT a "failed" landing - it is an "aborted" landing - and those are quite different things!
lhrlyc 1 year ago 2
@lhrlyc yes that word failed bothered me too...but the captain made a good decision to pull back up but im sure to try and land and not be able to then go around and try again is frustrating to the captain and first officer
prnces858 1 year ago
i wudve loved to be on that if i knew it wasnt gna crash 0_0
beaum1cah 1 year ago
what runway were you standing behind of? 8, 26 , 15, 33?
JamesN520 1 year ago
I've been on flights like this. Trust me ain't pretty.
Ludsy2001 1 year ago
that beast was coming down too fast man.....
sandesh20002000 1 year ago
Nice turns it makes the plane feel very light. lol
zetina2010 1 year ago
yikes. those must have been some tense moments for the pilot and the passangers. Just watching this video made my stomach turn
Juliansworld 1 year ago
Where was the video taken? the hills in the background threw me off. Do not think I have been here before.
thermo1984 1 year ago
@thermo1984. Video was taken at the Burbank Airport in L.A. The hills (or actually maountains) you saw in the background were the San Gabriel Mountains
Juliansworld 1 year ago
I think they call it an "un-stabilized" approach...
B1900pilot 1 year ago
...I would NOT have gone hang gliding
in that wind.
jwm239 1 year ago
is this lax?
pikapoketpu 1 year ago
man! awesome video! 5 stars!
EricSala97 1 year ago
Kudos to the flight crew for realizing the winds just weren't cutting it and not forcing it.
aligerous 2 years ago
why didn't he put the landing gear back up
mark031363 2 years ago
@mark031363 quick circle around too much to worry about
stormspotters 2 years ago
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my comment, by the way, was in response to @ninjastar404's silly comment , and I quote: "true that i heard they barly have inspections to." he not only has way too much time that he doesn't fill with gray matter exercises - he can't spell, either...
senikle 2 years ago
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The pilot was probably told to land visual (no autopilot); now he's declaring a missed approach and probably requesting an ILS landing approach for the same runway. As a result, the autopilot will handle the next approach and the pilot will turn off the autopilot at inner marker (if so equipped), just before touchdown.
SenorSpode 2 years ago
@SenorSpode
Just because you do not do a visual approach does not mean that you are using an autopilot (yes, considering SWAs internal procedures).
Also, its not to wise to have the autopilot flying in such adverse conditions especially down to minimums or the inner marker.
impowered 2 years ago
I realised that after I posted that you don't disengage the autopilot at inner marker. However, I sure wouldn't use visual methods to land a plane when told to go ILS. Perhaps that's why we have Glide Slope and Localiser antennae on major airports and their runways? I sure wouldn't try to prove anything in a 150-ton jet with people aboard. Equipment is cheaper than pride...and liability lawsuits.
SenorSpode 2 years ago
@SenorSpode Why would you fly an ILS in VMC and in crosswind. It would be easier to just fly the visual.
222airplane2222 1 year ago
@222airplane2222 ILS is easier.
Merlinbird 1 year ago
where was this at?
congaleader2000 2 years ago
@congaleader2000
Burbank Airport
aaben123 2 years ago
southwest is probably the safest airline around. I have flown with southwest since 1986 and I never encountered any problems. This is my preferred airline and will always be!
nativeone1249 2 years ago 10
@nativeone1249 How'd ya enjoy the hole in the ceiling?
lol jkjk
TheBoeing737Pilot 3 months ago
@nativeone1249
Same here, except I used to work for them. Great company and great airline! My only choice!!!
msjuniejane1 2 months ago
It's not very often you see a 737 get thrown around in the wind like a cessna 172. Nice video.
Saguaro24 2 years ago 45
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Southwest is scary...
plazmatical1 2 years ago
southwest has some of the top pilots around.
bananasfoster2 2 years ago
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Yeah, but their planes blow. Honestly, if they purchased better quality parts and upgrades for their planes, I promise you; they would have 1/16 of the problems the have now. That is why everyone flies Northwest and Spirit.
plazmatical1 2 years ago
"facts" man, just the facts. NW is flying DC-9s that average 34 years of age, which were made 15 years before you were born. And you are telling SWA to "upgrade"
Ha, Ha, Ha. Ha. Now, that's cute!
scrufferdog 2 years ago 3
what problems??? you know nothing!
congaleader2000 2 years ago
true that i heard they barly have inspections to.
ninjastar404 2 years ago
bullshit. no industry whose sole livelyhood relies on safe, reliable transportation of human beings is going to skimp on inspections - especially in the current economic environment, you moron. it would only take one fatal tragedy to spell the end of their corporate life. they're not going to risk skimping on safety inspections. go play with your crayons and coloring books, loser.
senikle 2 years ago
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Your mom is scary
umahuma4 2 years ago
Not true. Most Southwest pilots do not have a military background. A lot of pilots that are flying these days are seasoned pilots that labored through years of hell in the Regionals before stepping up to the 737. SWA hires more pilots because it's easier to train on the 737 rather than specialize in a variety such as Delta/Northwest, United, and US Airways (Boeing and Airbus fleets).
hawktb9 2 years ago
Not really
plane63 2 years ago
Generic procedure for a go-around is:
"missed Approach" - announce to the non flying pilot what your doing
"Power Set" - puss the G/A button to reset the flight director and set the power to go around
"Flaps 15" or whatever the takeoff flap setting is
the non flying pilot should then call "positive rate" when the VSI reverses itself at which point the flying pilot should call for "Gear Up"
ozpilot2 2 years ago
i did something like that yesterday on fsx but i landed it safely with 50 mph winds
djedenhnjfndsj 2 years ago
i once did one of thoose in fsx in a rain storm it was a success but i came in a little low but other than that it was good i also tuched down at 95 knots
grannyBangproduction 2 years ago
Which aircraft? Landing at 95 KTS is a surefire recipe for disaster, especially in a B737!
hawktb9 2 years ago
I thought gear up was the first check on a go around?
edyken77 2 years ago
Go around is FULL POWER, or TOGA depends which airplane is being flown.
Then positive rate of climb, then Gear up.
flyingv747 2 years ago 2
Nope, flaps, then gear. You might hit the ground (runway) in a go-around. So it's good to have the gear hanging for a bit and get the flaps first...
hhhvvim 2 years ago
where?
water8556 2 years ago
What airport is this? Even though it is a crosswind landing attempt, it APPEARS that they were lining up to a different runway at the last minute. I know this is not ATL, but I've seen that happen at ATL a few times.
Tigerwarhawk 2 years ago
It must be phoenix or somewhere else in arizona,not sure
OSierre 2 years ago
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its southwest can u expect anymore u can barley leave on time now u cant arrive at all
Vcast0912 2 years ago
I think the pilot executed a go around because he came in too high on the GS, not due to crosswinds.
avcomth 3 years ago
the people who were pn hit were propbly like okay back to disney land!
joejonastohearts12 3 years ago
Is this a 737? Its just beautiful!
SunLoungerMX 3 years ago 26
Heck yea it's a 737! A 737-700.
FlyingWing92 3 years ago 4
A 737-700H4 I might add...
Th32ick1 3 years ago 2
Tnx for ur answer
SunLoungerMX 3 years ago
yep its a 737 7h4
sk8allday25 3 years ago 2
Tnx mate for ur answer
SunLoungerMX 3 years ago
@SunLoungerMX 737-700 NG w/ winglets
Chickiee2 1 year ago
@SunLoungerMX yes this is a southwest 737-7H4 the only airline that only flies just 737's to be specific they fly 3's 5's and 700 series.
stormspotters 1 year ago
@SunLoungerMX southwest only flies 737's this happens to b a 737-7H4
stormspotters 1 year ago
@SunLoungerMX yeah i think almost if not all southwest planes are 737's they used to be mixed in with 727's but those hardly or dont fly at all anymore...i say hardly because i did see two take off a month ago from manchester, NH airport but they werent carrying people im sure cuz they were not placed at a gate they were being housed for a couple of weeks then one day i went back to the airport and they flew out of manchester...and yes it was a 727 haha trust me if you have doubts lol
prnces858 1 year ago
how did u film that high
bhumm25 3 years ago
i would be so scared if that happened 2 me!!!
VivaLaBlairBear78 3 years ago
bet that pilot needed a change of underwear i would have
4701012 3 years ago
Commercial Pilots train for these situations constantly. Probably the passengers were more concerned with a missed approach than the pilots. The approach was not stabilized so they went around, is the right choice instead of trying to force the landing.
locowil 3 years ago 3
I experienced a missed approach on Southwest about 6 months ago. We were making a steady descent and turned onto the crosswind leg to land. If felt the plane level out for a moment and then we made a turn and climbed out of the approach. The pilot came on and explained that "they weren't ready for us" on the ground (another plane on the runway). No big deal.
wlewis06 3 years ago
pilots don't get scared when they're in the sky. it's the ground and the rate at which it comes at us is what does it.
JJ600RR 3 years ago
These aren't Santa Ana winds though, are they? I cannot think of a time with clouds like that under Santa Ana wind conditions. Did the pilot go around and land on the other runway?
offinatrance 3 years ago
These are the winds from the North right after a storm comes through, which is probably why the clouds are still around, rather than the dry Santa Anas. He would've had to fly around and try to land on 33 again
mistaphill 3 years ago
I never remember seeing clouds with the Santa Ana winds, so I agree that they must be from a passing system. Is Rwy 33 typical for Santa Ana winds anyway? I know those winds usually come from the east, but in the Valley, I suppose they could come from a more northerly direction. I would have guessed Rwy 8 would be used if they were Santa Ana winds. I have never been in or out of Burbank, so I don't know. I agree that this looks like a winter system.
offinatrance 3 years ago
While rwy 8 is the preferred landing runway. The Santa Ana winds generally come from the north, so they switch to the 33 visual, which features a very short final after a sharp left-base turn after following the 101 freeway inbound, kind of similar to the expressway approach to LaGuardia rwy 31. If the Santa Anas switch to a NE direction, they'll use 8 to land and 33 for take-offs. I've landed on 33 a couple of times, it's a trip.
mistaphill 3 years ago
I happen to be in Burbank right now, but did not fly in here. It hit 105 degrees yesterday. Planes needed ever inch of runway to take off in that kind of heat without wind. The expressway approach in LaGuardia is great. Never flown it, but have seen it on YouTube.
offinatrance 3 years ago
Last time I landed on 33 the wind was probably no more than 10 knots, the approach wasn't even bumpy. I know those Santa Ana winds can get pretty gnarly most of the time.
mistaphill 3 years ago
oook
huntingtiger13 4 years ago
You gotta love Runway 33!
RyanBomar 4 years ago