Banjo-Kazooie Music : Advent Explained

[bloodhound710]

i tried the link and looked all over the website but they said nothing whatsoever about nintendo. it's like they've just burnt all the evidence that they ever worked for them.

[FrogJam95128]

Come on guys really they said advent was supposed to be used in Giants lair and people mistake it for fungus forest and mount fire eyes look it up on banjo kazooie wiki has aloooootta information

[SmashTaper]

I've read elsewhere that it was also known as "Giant's Lair" in Dream days. Back then, The Giant was Grunty's beta character. So Giant's Lair was beta for Grunty's Lair.

[NessPeppyTails]

You know, it really does sound like a map screen.

[m3gasn1p3r]

wasnt this origionaly going to be used in the "giants lair"?

[bl4ckw1ngz64]

Maybe Fungi Forest's lobby music is inspired by "Advent"?

[weegeeluv3r]

dude the last part scared this crap outta me i didnt see it coming!

[cron78]

Rare should revisit the "Dream" game and retool it for the 360 so it can be fully developed into what it was originally going to be before it became BK.

[LuigiFan1996]

@cron78 Yeah I would like that, too. But because it seemed to have somewhat of a plot I don't think Microsoft will let it happen.

[WobbuffetsWobbuffan]

it does sound more laid back, sort of like a file select song rather than a world's theme. In banjo kazooie, the themes were always lively and playful. this one seems more majestic. so it would make sense that it was for a map screen :3

[Xmation]

I think Banjo should of been in brawl in stead of donkey kong.

[noregrets92]

@Xmation

i agree. i dont why they didnt include him in the character list. banjo (and kazooie) was one of the most popular nintendo characters of its time. its a classic!

[MrBranden101]

sounds like donkey kong64 from one of the places

[thecrossfirecrew]

I know stuff like this was found becouse of hackers trying to solve stop n swap

[badenaf777]

BOOB

[AniMesXVIII]

okay I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but during the opening sequence of banjo tooie after the hag 1 leaves when you see the camera pan in on banjo's burnt house it plays the beginning of Advent!!!

[omninick1]

yeah it does but a bit slower. never noticed that.

[Ruttie2]

no, that's a rare like keyboard effect, would have been great though..

[Ruttie2]

True, but you forgot a part of the story. Before the idea of banjo kazooie this song was for a map, the map wasn't called advent, but it's the name of the song. Later the game ''Dream'' was dropped, the song was used for the new level fungus forest in banjo kazooie beta, even though, this level was also dropped. That's what happened

[runehero124]

-It was for a map screen

-Never claimed that the map screen itself was called advent.

-If you have reliable sources for your other claims I will gladly believe them.

[Wiimeiser]

2. It was called "Adventure Map"

[Jinjonator1]

The Level wasnt Dropped, they put Fungus Forest in DK64 and gave it Music a LOT like this Music.

[Ruttie2]

yes it was, srry scrapped was the right word, they indeed put it in dk64, i think it would have been nice for a bk level

[Jinjonator1]

Hopefully Rare will Make Dream on 360 with a Few Improvements. It looks like it would be a Great Game. Especially since RARE would be making it and Rare's awesome.

[Ruttie2]

True, true ;)

[Supermario64vids]

@Ruttie2 Actually, in Banjo-kazooie It was used for a beta map, called Giant's lair (Gruntilda's lair)

[Greenhogvideos]

:D How did I never hear of advent before, as much time I spend on the wiki? (Rhetorical. Don't answer.)

[TH126]

that music at the very end 1:49 to 1:57 is FUNGI FOREST MUSIC FROM DK64. it was originally supposed to be in B-K along with the Fire-side of Hailfire Peaks in B-T. N64 didnt have the expansion pak at the time

[Ruttie2]

Uhh.. You do know that the hailfire peaks part wasn't called like that back then? Yes? Well it was called: ''Mount Fire Eyes'' And it was not supposed to be an expansion but a normal part of the game! Still i'll never understand why they drop things like these D:

[TH126]

a whole bunch of levels were supposed to be in the game, but due to the n64's memory they couldnt fit it. THEN they made the EXPANSION PAK which allowed larger games like DK64 and Majoras Mask. Or else all of these "beta" levels would have been in B-K, unless there is another reason...

[Ruttie2]

True true.. ;)

[hardybro510]

Are you sure he said it was never used???

he must have meant it was never used when it came out.

but during CREATION,it actually was used.

Sum up all the facts for Fungus Forest and you'll see what im talking about.

why would after all these years would they still have a song from Dream?

Dream is supposably Banjo kazooie,Right?

so instead of dream they put it in Banjo Kazooie Creation.

[runehero124]

Sorry I never addressed this comment earlier. He said it was used for a map screen in Project: Dream but was never used for anything in Banjo.

[31Darkstar]

@runehero124 It was going to be used in Banjo Kazooie as the theme for the Giant's Lair. The place then changed to Gruntilda's Lair and the song was never used.

[hardybro510]

No,what you are saying is false.

actually,it WAS in a very early map screen.

But Since Super Nintendo died,Project Dream Was Cancelled,they started off a game with a bunny.

that failed so they used banjo.

originally,that was for a very early map screen for Dream

but moved on to a beta level known as Fungus Forest.\

Part of what you said is correct but not all of it.

[runehero124]

Eh, do you have any source stating it was used in fungus forest? Or where are you getting that information from?

Also, posted by Grant from rareware: "I think 'Advent' was a tune that was supposed to be played on a map page in Dream but NEVER got used in Banjo."

[Palmerifics]

The Advent track was first used for a map screen in Project Dream, but when it got canned (which was actually early on the Nintendo 64), it got moved to Fungus Forest, according to some beta footage released (search "Banjo Kazooie Clanker's Cavern/Fungus Forest Theory" on youtube as a source), and then it got moved-and changed-to Donkey Kong 64 for the music in Fungi Forest.

[runehero124]

That video doesn't mention advent at all. Advent is the small beta tune in Banjo-Kazooie that is only accessible with a game-shark . The one you're talking about is an entirely different song.

[Palmerifics]

Right, but if Fungi Forest was based off of Advent (which I believe you've said in an earlier post "Well yeah, that was my point. That was the music most likely used for Fungus Forest in BK."), and Fungi Forest was also taken and remade from the Fungus Forest music shown in the beta footage (which it obviously is), than Advent would have been turned into the Fungus Forest music and then the Fungi Forest music.

[Palmerifics]

*then

[runehero124]

Huh? I said the clip at the end had the same music from Fungi Forest in DK64. I never said it had anything to do with advent.

[Palmerifics]

Oh I see, I must not have noticed the clip of Clanker's Cavern/Fungus Forest at the end.

[Palmerifics]

Here's an interesting fact; The Fungi Forest lobby starts out the exact same way the Advent track does, so if nothing else, Rare at least probably reused that bit in the making of Fungi Forest.

[disluxia]

THIS SHIT IS IN DK64. go to troff rooms

[runehero124]

They sound nothing alike.

[gexmofia]

i just read your link for like an hour and to save other people time its near the bottom, and it also helps by looking for orange banjo kazooie words

[sonicdjs]

No, this was made for Beta Clanker's Cavern. They had the Fungi FOrest song for Fungus Forest, but then they got rid of the level and implented it into DK64.

[runehero124]

The song at the end of the vid was for clankers cavern, not the advent tune...

[sponge123123]

if this was meant for Dream how come it was found in Banjo Kazooie?

[KlonDignity]

because dream was the stage before banjo-kazooie...........

[gamemasterredlink]

may be dream was a platformer?

[GameMasterGuy]

we'll never know; but one things for sure, the only thing they left in for BK and BT was the blackeye pics in MMM, Blackeye himself in Tooie, and a well hidden cameo close to the end in BK- BK is NOT Project Dream, rather something that was created due to it

[gamemasterredlink]

O that makes perfect sence.

but the music still sounds like some thing youd hear on a level select/map screen to me.?!

[GameMasterGuy]

look at the link- it was

[pasky250]

hehe wikipedia right??? i found the same things when i was searching for GIANTS LAIR XD

[TheRealBanjo2]

Nice Job Rune! Its me BanjoLover50! Nice job... explaining...

[Palmerifics]

IMO it would be so cool if RARE brought this back from the drawing board and remade the little of it they had-that wasn't put into Banjo-Kazooie-along with completely new ideas in the original in mind to make a new-ish adventure game.

[eiremoonblossom]

The music in the clip near the end sounds closer to the DK64 "Fungi Forest" music rather then the Advent music.

[runehero124]

Well yeah, that was my point. That was the music most likely used for Fungus Forest in BK.

[pyroatribute]

Wat is an advent?

[KlonDignity]

short for adventure

[Jphthe2]

Cool!

[AlucardDeville]

Much obliged. This'll help me on a video I'm working on.

[BanjoD453]

Didn't know that. Thanks!

[runehero124]

Your welcome.