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  • Evenly matched, it depends on the take off for the winner to be found

  • Yea a uncle of mine had a mach 1 and he tried so hard too beat my ls1 with 4'10 and a exhoust.... He never accomplished that.

  • Mach 1s are over rated. It's just a gt with a shaker. And a badge

  • @tothemax24757 So ignorant

    Just so sad, there are SO many differences between the mach and the GT. Look it up, they are under rated, and with 4.10s they eat C5 vettes and LS1s alive. I had a 4.10 geared mach, and now I have a cammed 6.0l GTO, it's fast, but they= mach PULLED

  • @tothemax24757 yea basically except for a completely different motor that is underrated

  • @tothemax24757 GT=iron block SOHC 4.6, 260hp. Mach 1=aluminum block DOHC 4.6, 305hp. Not quite overrated.

  • @Milehighsnake98 proven to have 320hp

  • You people who think gto's run 12's stock are out of your mind. They weigh 3725 pounds, and 400 hp is only to the crank, not to the wheels. Power to weight ratio isn't good at all in those cars. Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting them down, I actually like the way they look, and I'd probably drive one, but they don't suit the power factor that you could get out of other cars.

  • the guy in the gto is a fail....

  • I have a bone stock '06 GTO and the fastest i've run is a13.27 and thats being a semi-novice driver..

  • This was all driver. I own a 06 gto and I walk on vettes and certainly any mustang but a gt500.

  • thats sad man! a 6.0 motor runs just the same as a little 4.6?? whys that?

  • i actually have 06 ls2 gto 6 speed and the best i could get out of it at the track was a 13.80. they have a lot of wheel hop and no traction. i was cutting 2.30 60fts. my tbss was pulling better times lol. i did 3 14 sec passes before the 13. however on a roll it is a different story. i have beat plenty of high 12 sec cars on rolls in it.

  • @95formy Be careful being honest like that, beware the wraith of the GM fanboy! But seriously, its nice to see people be honest like this as it seems every LS2 GTO owner wants others to think they pull 12's stock all the time and with no problem!

  • @milehighsnake and I actually know a guy that had one and the best he could get stock was a 14.0

  • @SStripp3d Yea decent driver will get high 13's. I own a Mach, no way someones getting 12's stock

  • @milehighsnake ok Idk about the old cobras running low 13s stock cuz I have yet to see that and have a hard time believing that cuz all those body style mustangs I've seen are slooow....and for the mach running 12.8s stock, yea in ur dreams....I've seen the new 5.0s running that and ur gonna tell me that those old machs do that also??

  • Ls1 instead:)

    

  • Steve got got....

  • @guitarlover ????

  • That mach must have a lot done to it to keep up with the goat

  • @SStripp3d learn how to type

    

  • @SStripp3d Not quite. The LS2 GTO only runs low 13s, 13.3-13.2. A stock 96 cobra will do that. A stock 5 speed Mach with a good driver will go 12.8s. That's why the first 2 runs he pulled away from the GTO. The third run the driver screwed up the launch and spun bad, you could hear it.

  • @Milehighsnake98 i dont think a 96 cobra would do that. the fastest stock mach ran a 13.2. a 96-98 cobra will run like a 13.7-13.8. my little brother had one and he didnt beat my 01 2v gt THAT bad. but id rather have a mach 1 than any of the other cars in this discussion

  • @muscletruckdude I do know someone who has gone 13.29 in a stock 96-98 cobra, and another who went 13.33 in a 96 I think. As mine sits, with 3.73 gears (as any cobra owner will tell you, you can actually lose time with 3.73s over the stock 3.27s), exhaust and a filter, I'm running the equivalent of a 13.6. And I'll be honest, I'm not driving the car that great.

  • @Milehighsnake98 i was talking about totally stock. no gear swap, stock exhaust, stock paper filter. my brothers was completely stock except for muffler deletes

  • That mach must have a lot done to it to keep up with the gto

  • G T O

  • mustangs all the way

  • @metallica58266 thats why after 45 years a stock Ford Mustang GT still can't beat a Camaro SS

  • @charliesmaster youre a little behind the 5.0 beats the new SS in a straight away, on the track, and in looks

  • Anyone who rips on ether car is a loser. Both good cars for different reasons. GTO with LS2 has more potential (add supercharger/cam and enjoy), but the Mustang is lighter and has a bit more interesting looks to it. And for those recently posted. the Grand prix has the LSA 5.3, and the G8 has the L76 6.0. I know because I own a G8 and my friend has a prix.

  • Pretty good runs between tha two. modded racing. no one should race stock and expect to win. nice goat and quick mach by tha way

  • ALL THAT PIECE OF SHIT GTO IS, IS A SLIGHTY CHANGED GRAND PRIX WITH A V8!

    LOOK AT ALL PONTIACS FROM THE G3,G5,G6,G8,GRAND PRIX, ARE ALL BASICALLY THE SAME EXCEPT THE SIZE GRADUALLY GETS BIGGER ALONG WITH THE MOTOR GRADUALLY GETTING BIGGER!

    I LOVE PONTIAC, OWNED A 2002 TRANS AM WS6 SUPERCHARGED,DUMB BITCH RAN RED LIGHT AND TOTALLED BOTH CARS!

    PONTIAC FAILED ON THE NEW GTO!

    I NOW OWN A O4 TERMINATOR COBRA CHERRY RED WITH ONLY 24000 MILES.

    ITS MY WEEKEND AND RAISING HELL CAR!

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  • @SL8R71 well ur way off cuz a gto and a g8 but have the SAME engine they use in vettes so unless ur calling vettes slow u should shut the hell up and last i checked a grand prix doesn't come with an LS engine

    P.S. ZR1 Vettes spank Cobras so obviously vettes aren't slow

  • @charliesmaster thats where your wrong bc yes they did put a 5.3 v8 in a grand prix

  • @MrYukon04 but it wasn't an LS which was more powerfuil

  • @charliesmaster but it still was a v8 lol it was the lh8 i think the same as what was put in the colorados it still made 300hp tho

  • That's what you all say. Trust me when I say, I got a whole lot and you can't even comprehend what kind of money I'm talking about. You don't own shit. You're a kid who's father probably owns a small landscaping business and you think that's being rich. LOL Fuckin clown. Since you want to hide behind a hidden profile, I have nothing else to say. Don't be mad with your inferior ass. LOL

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  • @deezomaxima i never called anyone a nigger so stop goin after me cuz im on ur side here cuz I Love Pontiacs

  • @charliesmaster I'm not going after you. It's that asswipe SLR871 who I'm talking to. My bad.

  • @deezomaxima I know that guy knows nothing about what he's talking about lol

  • @charliesmaster The bitch is hiding behind a blocked profile talkin shit but i'm moving on. Let's talk about cars. LOL

  • @deezomaxima do u know of any good street racing videos?

  • @SL8R71 the gto and g8 and gxp are the same with a 6.0 or gxp with a 6.2 but they did put the 5.3 in the grand prix

  • @SL8R71 The G8 is nothing like the rest of the cars you listed so I don't know where you get your logic.

  • @SL8R71 So you comment on my profile talkin shit and all you had to do is look at my fuckin videos of my G8 GT dumbass. Go shave your legs bitch. I'm sure you know more about that than cars troll. So you're really the dumbfuck to think all Pontiac models have similarities based on the fact they all start with the letter "G". How fuckin stupid are you? LOL

  • @SL8R71 Oh now I'm a nappy headed nigger???? No naps but I got what you want fag, a nice golden brown tan and green money in my pockets. LOL Don't be mad.

  • hell yea gto!

  • Your suppose to be killing this GTO

  • the mach would have gotten embarassed if the goat driver could learn how to drive.

  • @iCatorade The GTO's look like bloated cavaliers. Not a distinctive design at all. Mustangs on the other hand....

  • @vanhalengt500kr Well ill finsh that for everybody has a mustang turn the corner and you get to see one a gto well there is only 40 thousand made so you dont see one every day

  • @vanhalengt500kr Areed. The GTO is hideous. I really like the look of the Mustang. Now if you could put the LS2 in a Mustang, that would be a killer combo. GM engine, Ford looks.

  • @Quatermain98526 who cares about the looks i'd rather have the power to back up the ugly look of any car bro

  • @batmobilestang while the LS2 GTO can get a 13 flat with a GREAT driver. Which comes out to being the truth at the track and on the road.VERY fast???? not really 12-13 sec q miles is not very fast....... take a ride in a zr1 or zo6---- that's very fast----- or better yet a sub 10 drag car. My mach is a daily driver full bolt on and will do a 12.5 ALL day long. no problem with stock ls2 c6's or GTO's. HELL even a stock cobra. all it takes for the LSX motors is a cam and for mod motors BOOST

  • @Mitroff85  okay.....

  • @chihawks31 ok????...... the response was made because batmobilestang said it took heavy mods to beat a HOG gto. Comment was to say that it does not take a lot to beat that pig car. 6.0 with 400 crank hp runs 13's..... LOL

  • @Mitroff85 well said. but the power adder always bite ford in the ass as it appears to be a bigger mod then a cam in a ls motor and people always say its got a blower! lol

  • @batmobilestang only 1 of the 2 GTO's has an edge on the mach 1.... That's the LS2.... which is in this video. Heavily modded to beat a stock LS2? I don't think so..... More like tires, intake, php spacer, tune, and full exhaust.. I know because I completed the same task MANY times on the road and at the track. With those mods alone I was hitting a 12.7- 12.8 consistently. I won't consider a few bolt on's as heavily modded.... LOL o btw the ls1 GTO has a hard time getting to the mid 13's.....

  • @Mitroff85 i have a 06 chevy trailblazer ss(ls2) all wheel drive and i run 13.40s all day with 1.8 60fts on stock 20" rims and tires @5200lbs! and thats with a homemade intake and handheld tuner(junk). im goin to do electric fans,underdrive pulley,headers and a real tune for a shot at 12s in this pig! lol my truck is all launch and not much top end due to the weight and the intake is designed for torque not hp. only traps 101mph now but not for long! and its a terror on the street with awd!

  • the third time he took the mach cus he didnt fuck up

  • mach 1 owned that POS GTO

  • @Mitroff85 The modded Mach 1 BARELY "owning" the STOCK GTO, yet the GTO is a POS?

  • @95BlackGA exhaust, intake, and maybe a short throw on the Mach? Not to mention the mach has a 4.6 and the GTO has a 6.0. On paper the mach has 305hp at the fly and the GTO has 400hp at the fly.... I think there is a little bit of room even with the mods for the GTO to still be at a horsepower and torque advantage. The problem is the GTO is way to damn heavy... I mean monaro... i mean malibu.... I mean POS!!!

  • @Mitroff85 Some people...you...like to live in LA LA land

  • Main reason is 4:10 gears...

  • I dont know if any of these people have actually ever been in a GTO but Car and Driver gave it the best interior for 2004, but of coarse you probably think that is a shitty car magazine too.

  • @6LitreJellyBean GTO has a much nicer interior than any Mustang and a much smoother ride to go with the speed.

  • @2006spiceredgto The GTO is ugly as shit. I love the GTO's performance, but it looks like a bloated Cavalier.

  • @Punisher7121 its not a bloated cavalier, its a pissed off cavalier lol

  • yeahhhh thats right fag boys, looks like he got ya on that one, fuckin dude cant drive the gto for shit

  • nice mach 1 man i got a 03 got to change my clutch though lol

  • @blackjacksmitty well any day you want i go a lot to gainesville dragway fl i just dyno it to day and made 421hp/435tq i will see you there some day if you want

  • @darkstel Nice car. Love those. You do know how easy it would be to build a GTO to run all over it though right?

  • @darkstel You just said 400whp in your last comment, but now you are saying 421bhp? I was lenient on drive train

    loss calculations and thats still a ways to go for 400whp. Second, what are you driving a V8 g35 swap? As you'll be the first g35 I've seen dyno with a higher torque rating than hp. I'm asking for another dyno not from the same place you got those numbers, because 20:1 vq engines will have lower tq than hp

  • @Texarmageddon -well man obviously you dont know anything about vq engines theres no vq on the world with 20:1 compresion ratio it will blow up they are 10:1 just click on my name and you will see the dynos and 421 its detuned a little bit it push 439 on one of the pulls at just 5800rpms there you can see my mods and obviously its not N/A this is just 8 psi soon im getting pistons and rods then im going to the 550whp

  • Gto is gay. No handling no looks and no luxury. Straight lines are for fast cars, curves are for fast drivers.

  • @shady15gt

    Did you just say no luxury.... Interior is rated equal to bmw m7.... ?? ; P

  • @shady15gt

    Did you just say no luxury.... Interior is rated equal to bmw m7.... ?? ; P

    Handling is sub par in most respects yes unless your into drifting. Rear end kicks out easily and is very predictable when it does

  • @blackjacksmitty btw i dont hate american muscle cars the GTO its not even one its just a australian renamed Holden Monaro . And wtf its so amazing about them they are heavy,ugly as fuck the interior is a piece of shit

  • @blackjacksmitty i cant affort one your right i only have a infiniti G35 turbo with 400whp only but yea i cant affort to spend my money on that piece of shit

  • GTO=Faggggg

  • only fags drive new GTOs

  • @witemeng Only fags underestimate them.

  • @witemeng what do you drive. FAG

  • good race im not one of thos guys that say you cant driv but the gto driver cold of did alot better

  • kinda sad considering what the Mach has done to it...

  • @deadeyedickification kinda what i was thinking :/

  • wait, thats a stock mach 1? theres no way

  • @glitchez did you even watch the beginning?

  • @RicerEater1978 no i didnt lol, but now that i read it i see why

  • @glitchez lmao! :p

  • GTO wheel hoppin like a jack rabbit

  • nice races, should race again wen the GTO drive learns how to shift

  • GETTTTER DOOOONEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @chs5776 the zr1 hands down rapes the ford gt sorry no contest there....on another note this a drivers race for me personally I'd take the Gto a better n/a motor than the svt but all about preference I want the look if the SVT but the motor of the Gto now that would be a car....n charger srt8 r garbage my 6.0 truck with a few mods beats em n I'm sorry you lose to a truck I'n a sports car trade that backwards motor vehicle I'n thank u n that is all!

  • Drivers race /= 04 LS1 6m GTO

  • Lord those GTO aussie cars, are fugly! The Monaro, is an ugly azz car (imo) only an aussie could like it....gotta luv the jelly bean shaped style, in a car.

  • @MrSinister99 what looks better, an 04 mustang, or a GTO?? i know what i recon!... no doubt you probably drive a renault or worse, a ford.

  • the gto driver sucked ass....

  • Maybee ya shoulda rolled the window up on the last run..... Too much drag

  • The better car is far and away the GTO. It's very obvious that the GTO driver is garbage. If you watch the video you''ll see what I'm talking about. I like both cars so I'm indifferent to the outcome. Flamers, flame away. The truth is the truth though....

  • @brin3535 so even tho it was close and most races from a dig with these two cars are close you still insist on the GTO....

  • @kkleekyger Why not?

  • actually the mustang driver wasn't that great but still won againt 400HP car, great job still !

  • Great race, that was legit. Very close!

  • i dont know steve, he got ya on that one

  • Way to go Mach !  4.6 for the win.

  • I would have expected the Mach to flat murder that GTO

  • haha ur just mad cause u didn't buy the right Ford for your first car...

  • All this hate on GM is funny, ZR1 has a high price cause of the light weight components and other things to be a better track car. Notice how GM doesn't pay attention to ford and goes straight after euro cars lmao. I've yet to see a mustang go around a track properly without it being roush tuned or track prepped. Ford just started caring about mustangs handle going around a corner with the 2011 model. Ford still trying to win the str8 line battle while GM won that & moved on to circuit tracks

  • @JB1263 way to compare a $100,000+ car to a $35000 you douchbag.

  • the gto driver blows cocks at driving

  • @DudeWithTheGoat

    The Mach should have raped the GTO, I have several friends with GTO's and the 5.7's are pathetic. the 6.0's are pretty big turds until they are at least cammed with lt's and a good hot tune, even at that the weight is still a huge issue, i cant believe Holden put tow packages on those things.

  • @JesseJames20051987 it has 400 hp...it's an 06 6.0 ls2...the mach is an N/A 4.6 with minor mods...thank God for a mustang driver on here who can actually drive their damn car....that's what you get when you fuck with a mach 1 that runs good with a good driver...you get smoked most of the time in your big ol' 400 hp bad ass grand prix on steroids lol

  • That GTO's better take my gto over any rust stang anyday

  • @MrBriggsie and im sure id take a mustang over a gto anyday now that the new 5.0 is out there crushin gm

  • @adcstmh 5.0 this 5.0 that you have one fast car we have like 7 lol which is better. the 5.0 is the only one that beats the comaro thats it. corvette beats gt500 zr1 beats the ford gt like whats so special about ford.... nothing

  • @MrBriggsie hahaha yah right dumbass i just looked it up a ford gt crushed the zr1 in the vid i watched and whats so great about gm? nothing i like gm but i think ford beats them thats it and you think gm beats ford but does it really matter? we airnt gonna change our minds and yes the zr1 is bad as shit and so is the ford gt so idc really witch 1 is better as long as they beat those ricey imports

  • @adcstmh the zr1 kills the gt stock vs stock buddy...and mustangs were never able to beat gm, up until the new 5.0. The 5.0 is like the first comparable mustang that can beat a camaro..and its by like a couple tenths of a second. Plus the new camaro looks way better than the stang. the cobras are 50 grand and lose the comparable corvette. Ford has lost it's whole life to gm when making performance cars....except finally now in 2011. Plus everyone and there mother has a mustang...il take the gto.

  • @Redsummersun611 i would hope the zr1 would kill it its what 3 times the price and supercharged?

  • @bloodseedrums What do you mean 3 times the price?? the GT is way more money than a zr1. Check on ebay a used gt is being sold for 150,000. You can get an 09 zr1 for 90,000. I am not really sure what you are talking about.

  • @Redsummersun611 dude now ur jus lyng zr1 doesnt kill the ford GT its beats it but not kill lol the best time for a zr1 i seen is 11.3 as for the GT a 11.5 both badd ass cars ..but the zr1 one wins for its 638hp while the Gt has 550hp

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  • RACE A TURBO GTO AND SEE WATS UP LOL

  • @772whereiamat ahh y? thats dumb anyway a 6.0 loses to a 4.6? thats pathetic

  • im thinking of getting an affordable sports car,..wat do yal suggest?? 03-08 that can hang with the best of em..?

  • nice u should get an updated roushcharger

  • yeah finally the GOAT owner gets some wits about him, passenger, baby seat and all, and takes it like it should..muaaahhahahahaha

  • my gt keeps up with a friends mach 1....after 70 and he walks me..

  • DAMN THAT BLOWS,..AND WHAT MODS WOULD BE THE BEST TO ADD 

  • @RMez31 a mach1 will beat a lt1 without much issue.... it wouldn't beat an ls1 though, maybe thats what he meant.

  • SO I WANT A MACH 1 BUT I HEAR AND SEE SO MUCH DIFFERENT SHIT,..I HEAR THEY SUCK BY SOME AN BY OTHERS THEY ARE AWESOME,..I STILL TRYING TO GET ONE JUS WANT SOME INSIGHT,..PLUS MY FRIEND HAS AN LT1 SO HOW WOULD IT GO AGAINST HIM?

  • @RMez31 it would lose against an lt1

  • @wrx4life44 no..lol

  • @RMez31 I have 3 friends with mach1s and they all own the mach1s only as daily driven cars and they all say mach1s have very weak internals. My neighboor (friend) has blown the transmission twice and blown a bearing once too. He owns 7 mustangs and is a ford mechanic and he says mach1s r only good to daily drive a nice car but to build it sucks. everythign is expensive and it wont hold much power. My other firend has a mach1 on boost and he cant boost more than 8 pounds otherwise it blows.

  • Wow! the mustang held it down... Gto it should of walked that Mach espeically if it's a 6.0.. The gto is running on pizza cutters still!! If he would of put some real tires that goat he woulda had this one in the bag..

  • On the second run GTO owner fell asleep on the launch

  • 400HP, 400FT/LBS GTO vs possible 325HP/340FT/LBS with L/T Mach 1, so much for higher spec ratings.

  • @metaluzc it's called weight

  • @cwhcj Mach 1 curb weight is around 3300lbs., GTO curb weight is around 3700lbs. I doubt 400lbs makes that much difference when the GTO has close to 80HP and 60FT/LBS Torque more than the Mach 1.

  • @metaluzc Ok

  • @metaluzc 400lbs is a huge fucking difference

  • @glamisfanatic lol not really when the GTO has an extra 80HP and 60FT/LBS Torque. Same specs and a 400lb difference would be significant, not when the GTO has higher ratings to begin with.

  • @metaluzc that extra horse power and torque is used to move the extra 400lbs

  • @metaluzc hahahah you're a moron..

  • @1994lebaron and you drive a lebaron, end of discussion.

  • @metaluzc and u drive?.... nothing. i don't see any videos of ur car. so stfu

  • @1994lebaron I own a 2003 Silverado 2500HD and a 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege. And your shitty videos at night are so impressive. I could shoot a video of me taking a crap and it would be better quality and more interesting. Get a real vehicle.

  • @metaluzc so, you own a hick truck, and a ricer piece of shit.. nice.

  • @1994lebaron i like how you talk so much shit and you are rolling in a chrysler lebaron.... hahahaha! all 4 of my cars would eat that thing alive and shit it out and eat it again...

  • @DIENAMICProductions okay i dont realy give a shit who said u were part of this conversation dumbass?

  • @1994lebaron what the fuck does it matter. your the dumbass over here talking fuckin shit and u barelly even have a car. i wouldnt even call that piece of shit a car. i would call it a dumpster... i would beet that piece of shit in reverse

  • @DIENAMICProductions hmm, well you didn't seem to specify any of your cars.. i'm sure you drive mommy's van, daddy's truck, your grandpa's oldsmobile, and your girlfriend's toyota... i don't have time to waste on fuckasses like you. fuck off.

  • @1994lebaron hahaha an oldsmobile is better than a lebaron! and anyways i have a 2002 acura rsx type s(17 PSI) 2003 infiniti g35 2001 mustang and a 2007 300c. so get down on your knees and suck u poon

  • @DIENAMICProductions okay post some videos of your cars instead of your nigger rap shit and prove it fuckin idiot

  • @1994lebaron ok give me a day or so bitch..

  • @DIENAMICProductions o i can't wait to see this

  • @1994lebaron dude u really need 2 stop talking i meen a lebaron is nothing 2 be proud of if that dienamicproductions has those cars they would shit on u all day

  • @adcstmh yes i actually do have those cars but right now im only able to record on my phone cuz my bro has my cam in cali.

  • @DIENAMICProductions and dude i dont beleave u evenhave those cars by the looks of ur vids so i guess that lebaron guy has ur ass

  • @adcstmh well wait a while. my bro has my cam..