Witold Lutoslawsky - Chain I - London Sinfonietta

[kyuyul]

Very Beautiful. It is one of the most beautiful 20th music.

[AfroDeezeeYak]

How is it again that imbeciles like @666aliano and and @PawelWysocki stumble upon Lutoslaswski?

[MarcusHK1]

Beautiful piece. Around 6'30'' it reminds me of an elusive and spooky passage for strings alone in the first movement of Mahlers' 9th symphony.

[GregFox100]

Gorgeous. Have you got the rest of this Michael Vyner memorial concert? There's a lovely tender Takemitsu piano piece played by Paul Crossley and a lush early Nigel Osborne piece in the programme if I remember rightly, as well as some appallingly crass Weill medleys :/ thanks for this though, best performance, recorded or otherwise, of this piece

[fanrocketonline]

I love the people bashing this genius. Witold has so much interesting melodic play in everything he writes. I had the pleasure of working with him personally in a concert I put together in his honor. While he used "Aleatoric"; techniques that allow the musicians to "jam out" on specific themes, the underlying themes are very melodic. His chains are quite atonal, yet for the bashers: the 3rd Symphony (atonal) or Concerto for Orchestra - a tonal work! Any true musicians appreciate his artistry!

[pgradone]

I love watching him conduct his own music, especially knowing how difficult his scores are for conductors (and ensembles). I never grow tired of his harmonic language, especially when comparing his 12-note chords to Elliott Carter's. Lutoslawski is certainly a defining voice of 20th century music for me; specifically, he's (in my opinion) the greatest example of a seamless continuation of the 19th century romantic sensibility, minus the horrible banality of neo-romanticism.

[Emptypocketfulls]

You guys that are trolling this video and insulting the people that came here to enjoy this music must feel like real heroes. Way to enlighten us contemporary music lovers by showing us that closing our minds and inhibiting our intellect is the key to being cool!!! Let's all go to a Lady Gaga concert together and be BFF's!!!

[andreasamati]

@Emptypocketfulls My point is that this Lutoslawski 'creation' is not music but rather noise. I'm not trolling this video, Lutoslawski and many of these atonal shit composers are frauds. They know that they could not write good tonal music so they resort to writing this abstract shit where you can't tell if someone's playing the wrong rhythm or note. Go listen to real music: Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Handel etc. and open up your ears.

[Depressionsbehandlin]

@andreasamati What is the definition of music?

[mrpankau]

For all the people that are bashing this wonderful piece: You're approaching it with the wrong mentality. You're trying to gauge it as a consonant tonal piece against other consonant tonal pieces. Understand that Lutoslawski had no interest in making this sound "pretty", at least to the tonally inclined ear. He had an entirely different objective, as do all composers of atonal music. You can't criticize Quentin Tarantino films for not being more like Power Puff Girls cartoons, can you?

[andreasamati]

@mrpankau 'Understand that Lutoslawski had no interest in making this sound "pretty" ' ...Yeah I agree with you. You about summed it up. His music sounds likes like pure shit. With dwindling concert attendances, awful and untalented new music composers like Lutoslawski don't help the problem.

[TheTimeTraveler100]

I cannot believe this. Four years and only thirty thousand views?! This is an OUTRAGE!!!

[alihashemian]

brilliant

[PawelWysocki]

seems like he was the only conductor capable of properly conducting his works.

[PawelWysocki]

@ordoscreek lekkie dziecinstwo, ciezkie zabawki.

[ezev8logos]

it sounds like when you rewind a tape

[IIZarathustraII]

to be honest, for me chain I is much to sterile maybe abstract or just less of attraction. e.g. in comparison to chain II or the livre (that both were very emotional to me), so even as a very liker of contemporary music i just don't like it, but that's just my opinion :D

[wagneristhebest]

i swear they started clapping too soon...

[rocknrollradioz]

this is amazing

[jtizz711]

What key is this in?!?

[Steinway12345]

What key is this not in?

[Betokan]

Similar to Prokofiev don't you think? I'm new in this style of music though

[mrpumpkin]

You are very young. When You grow up maybe you will understand contemporary music. :)

[andreasamati]

@mrpumpkin This is exactly what is wrong with classical music. Shit like this drives audiences away. Open your fucking ears.

[feclips]

@andreasamati I certainly understand your argument, and you may even be right. But your not very wise choice of words makes you sound like a complete ignorant. The world of classical music certainly won't change because of them.

[Aecaiz]

@andreasamati audiences comprised of people like you, perhaps. Read up, and open your fucking mind.

[andreasamati]

@Aecaiz I'll stick to my Beethoven and Mozart (real music). Open your fucking ears jackass.

[Aecaiz]

@andreasamati Evidently, you are not a musician. You have no understanding of the medium, so it's pointless to try and educate you through Youtube comments.

You don't like it. I think it's fantastic. So instead of trolling a perfectly good video with your ignorance, go listen to some Einaudi or something.

[andreasamati]

@Aecaiz I actually hold degrees from prestigious institutes of higher learning (which you could only dream of attending), studied with world renowned concert artists, and have played more concerts and music than you could in 100 lifetimes. It's not ignorant to call this noise: shit. That is what it is. And your opinion don't mean shit.

[Aecaiz]

@andreasamati All this experience and still no understanding of contemporary music? Frankly, I don't believe you.

Also, you know nothing about me, and your presumptions are a little off the mark shall we say. Suffice to say, I know enough to be sure that you can't succeed in today's professional world without an appreciation for new music - something your "prestigious institutes" should have taught you.

Feel free to reply with more bullshit, but tbh I think I've fed this troll enough.

[andreasamati]

@Aecaiz Understand contemporary music? Why should I like bad harmony, sloppy writing, no attention to detail etc.? Not all contemporary music is this bad, and I do not think you should categorize Lutoslawski as being the epidemy of new music. You have no idea who I am and I've already succeeded in today's music world, so your theory is just that: a theory. If you open up your (small) mind and listen to what I have to say, you might actually learn something.

[Aecaiz]

@andreasamati everything you've just said just reeks of ignorance. Bad harmony? What is "bad" harmony? Discordant? Everything you personally don't like? Get over yourself.

And "sloppy writing", "no attention to detail"... SO ignorant. This isn't even a matter of your ridiculously archaic opinion. It's just blatantly untrue.

And I never said Lutoslawski was the EPITOME of new music... in fact he's pretty tame. Something else you'd know if half the shit you're claiming was true :)

[andreasamati]

@Aecaiz Everything I said, are qualities you will find in great compositions of music not noise which this fraud, Lutoslawski writes. He is a phony like so many of these academic new music 'composers' today who write noise not music with no harmonic direction or thread.

[Aecaiz]

@andreasamati Writing music like this is so much harder than writing tonal music. It's easy to write like Mozart: he was a genius because he pushed the boundaries of his time, but that was over 200 years ago. Were someone to write like that now, they'd never be successful.

I agree with you in that there is a line where "music" becomes unintelligible (ohi, Lachenmann), but Lutoslawski is nowhere near this line. IMO, he's a genius.

eg: I hate Handel. He's boring. Playing his music is a chore.

[666aliano]

@andreasamati The purpose of this kind of music isn't to become popular in the mainstream. It is intended to enlighten the few who are patient enough to listen.

[andreasamati]

@666aliano Enlighten who? This is not music, it is noise. There's more music in a New York City traffic jam when 10 cabs are honking, than this shit.

[666aliano]

Exactly. Even 10 car horns honking is music as long as you call it a song.

[PawelWysocki]

@666aliano as long as it's honked by talented honkers and directed by someone who knows his way around.

[kamishes]

Takie utwory, jak Kwartet smyczkowy czy III symfonia należą do najznakomitszych utworów XX wieku. Nie potrafić sobie ich w jakimś stopniu przyswoić, opanować - to jak żyć przed Einsteinem i Jungiem... I oczywiście znakomita część publiczności "właśnie tak ma". Mówimy tu o zjawiskach bardzo elitarnych...

[kamishes]

Przypomina mi się, co Proust mówił o nieudolnych krytykach swego dzieła: że też zarzucają mu właśnie i akurat "brak formy" - podczas gdy właśnie FORMA jest jedynym atutem, jedyną mocną strona jego dzieła!

Ale na tym właśnie polega "filisterstwo": kompletne niezrozumienie, ale połączone z usilnym pragnieniem "wygłaszania opini" - bo przecież tak w ogóle to "taki oświecony jestem" i w ogóle...

[kamishes]

Wiecznie ten sam problem z filistrami... (z całym szacunkiem - moja mama też "nie kuma Lutosa", ale nie odważy się nazwać tej muzyki "chłamem")

Niezrozumiała, mętna, antymuzyka itp. - znamy to na pamięć, do uprzykrzenia. Ale i tak zawsze znajdzie się jakiś nowy zapalczywiec, który pcha się ze swoją, pożal się Boże, opinią. Do "duszy" mu nie trafia, patrzcie go...

[yassya12345]

to jest muzyka, to że do ciebie nie dociera nie znaczy, że nie zasługuje na miano muzyki, każdy woli co innego, jeden lubi muzykę barokową, inny impresjonistyczną a inny klasyczną, to że nie podoba ci się muzyka współczesna wcale nie znaczy, że komuś innemu się nie spodoba. Polecam ci posłuchać tkzw muzyki konkretnej np. Johna Cage'a, zobaczysz jak można traktować muzykę, z czego ją można stworzyć

[wilkiemart]

i wish i could read these awesome looking comments..

[ComradeCrusty]

Brilliant

[Frontkampfer]

Współczesna muzyka klasyczna to kicz. "Twórczość" Lutosławskiego jest tego najlepszym przykładem.

[dick4dick]

zdefiniuj slowo kicz? coz ono wedlug Ciebie oznacza?

[Frontkampfer]

Mam na myśl oczywiście tandetę, co według mnie nie zasługuje na miano sztuki. Ale można tą muzykę interpretować też subiektywnie - jako nowatorstwo.

[paraglide2008]

To, że czegoś nie rozumiesz nie oznacza jeszcze, że jest złe.

[Frontkampfer]

Nie rozumiem i nigdy nie zrozumiem tego czegoś. To nie jest nawet muzyka. To jest antymuzyka. Muzyka ma trafiać do duszy.

[Wacek4444]

ale z ciebie bezduszny burak

[Necrobutcher14]

popieram;)

[PawelWysocki]

@Frontkampfer jak nie trafia, to przynajmniej sie do tego nie przyznawaj ;)

[surfasaur]

Maybe it is interesting...

Witold Lutoslawski graduated from Warsaw Conservatory, where he studied composition with outstanding Russian and Polish composer Witold Malizsewski (1873-1939), former first rector and founder of Odessa conservatory in Russia. In turn Malizsewski was a student of N.A.Rimsky-Korsakov in St. Petersburg conservatory. Malizhewski's another famous student was composer Nikolai Vilinski (1888-1956).

[kiosk67zt]

great video, many thanks

[jamesaellis]

chaing 2 is better of all 3

[alkovna]

Is there a recording of this piece by this ensemble?

[Katamanteuomos]

Very good performed. You listen Concerto for Orchestra! Lutosławski hides there krakowiak and obertas.

[TheJanitorsCloset]

Great great great...have the recording, is beautiful to actually see it played.

[muslit]

another beautiful piece by maestro lutoslawski - thanks for the video

[PeterEvolves]

WOW! With him conducting! This is so great. Thank you so much.

[isherwood]

Thank you very much for posting this! Lutoslawski is sorely missed; his music is just so effective and beautiful.

[emtube]

Another rare experience thanks to Suasoires. Please add any other contemporary works you can!

[frikij]

Great stuff. Lutoslawki's work impresses me as some of the finest of the last fifty years. A true artist.

[wagneristhebest]

@frikij yes, have you listened to the fourth symphony yet? from the first moment it had me transported to another world...

[crowe]

fuck me! this is great footage!