Very welcome to have a listen to AirwavesJoxfields Vegetable (Elephant ) Man with Joxfields tribute-to-David-Gilmour's-ca-1971-playing guitar at 1.59. If you make a visit; hope you enjoy it! Cheers!
syd was an artist more than a pop star. don't forget he was only 20 when he wrote and performed all the "piper" stuff as well as most of this. had he stuck with it, he would have improved technically. but a polished, technical guitar player was not what syd was or what the early floyd benefited from. instead it was his amazing style and unique qualities that propelled their early success. syd was beautiful and overwhelmingly original and talented
well roger could pen out some pretty meaningful lyrics compared to the others, but it got to his head. syd's guitar playing was innovative and unique but he wasnt amazing but thats what made it so good ya know? now syd's lyrical work is unparalled! the whole of the pink floyd's work is amazing no matter who wrote the music
This is rare, I have never heard these versions before...btw... I'd like to let everyone out there know the Chinese Communist Party has been persecuting 70 million Falun Gong spiritual practitioners for 10 years in China. They are put in slave-labor camps and forced to make stuff sold here. They take organs from them to sell on the black market. The media doesn't cover it. It must stop. Thanks.
Listening to Vegetable Man, Scream Thy Last Scream and Jugband Blues, i get the feeling that Syd may have consciously enjoyed the fact of being pegged as a loony. i mean, maybe he was becoming mentally unstable but his songwriting showed that he - at least - found some kind of romantism in it and he was able to witness it from an outer point of view. my guess is that he wasn't that crazy, he kind of built his myth himself, for himself.
Syd was a really good guitar player. Maybe not so technically skilly than some real "professional-guitarists", but he was just a genius guy who made art by playin' the guitar PERSONALLY. Get a life, all u who blame syd.
Amazing! Thank you for the post! It's been years since I heard this. Doesn't it sound suspiciously a bit like Stg Pepper period? Methinks Lennon was a serious fan too.
Pink Floyd's debut album, "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" was recorded at the same time and same studio as the Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band." It could be guessed that both bands heard each other's music through the walls, and both bands inspired each other. I think both albums are in the same psychedelic vein.
I agree I think Lennons "what a shame mary jane"is a very very syd style song there is a version of it where I honestly think Syd sings a little of the chorus at the end tell me your opinion please
Yes it is true Syd was a great Beatles fan (He always admited it)...and syd and the beatles performed together "What a shame mary Jane"...Barrett supposely sang the song.. However there are a bounch of debates upon this...
He could play any string instrument from the moment he popped out of the womb, he was a prodigy and he spent his entire life as a youngster playing in orchestras and bands with family and friends. He was touted as being 'the next Mozart', he was a brilliant musician and played many instruments other than strings, also, including woodwinds and brass. I'm sure you will hear it from many others, soon. get a clue!
ScarBarrett, Collin is right, the Beatles and The Byrds pretty much popularized psychedelic music in the public conscience several months before The Pink Floyd hit the mark. However, Syd absolutely took it to the next level within the British scene, much the same way Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful dead did in San Fransisco.
Incidentally, only idiots would write off Kurt Cobain as a musician. Who cares if he wasn't technical?
thank you so much for posting these songs, as well as the other two parts of flowers and vegetables. this is the only place on the web (or anywhere else for that matter) i have been able to hear vegetable man. you have brought much happiness!
Could Syd have chosen that chapter because it is the seventh,"when things cannot be destroyed once and for all"?I have got to get that book and start searching for hidden meanings!=D
P.S. See Emily Play is an example of what Syd was capable of. Just a pity he couldn't fulfil it. The early experimentation definitely influenced the later Floyd too. The later stuff is definitely of a much higher quality. I'm not a big fan of the rest of Syd's stuff, just took exception to the "useless crank" remark. Take it easy...
FINE! But why pick a fight with fans of Syd with this comment. Did you meet Lennon? Cobain? Buckley? Yet like everyone else you have an opinion... I think Syd Barrett was great and will argue it with anyone. Yet I will listen to everyone else who hinks he was shite. Keep your 'dead musician you never met' comments to yourself. They do not become a sensible argument!
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I used to like this stuff!
I soon realised how much of a useless crank Barrett actually was.
Pink Floyd didn't come into their own until 'Meddle' in 1971. That record is the product of a very tight and aware band.
If you look at the Pink Floyd output from 1967-'68, it was a rag-tag collection of pseudo jazz jams and dodgy pop songs. They didn't differ from any of the English, so-called "experimental" psychedlic groups of the period. I love Pink Floyd, but their early output was pretty shoddy.
Your opinion is that a musician who had a mental breakdown and is now dead was a "useless crank". You can keep it. Some of the early stuff was messy in comparison to the later stuff, but Barrett did have talent, and the early songs have much more personality. They're different. I like the later stuff too.
Syd requested this lp be released on 9-11-1967 - exactly one year after Paul's supposed accident. Also, new Paul wore yellow shoes, velvet blue pants, and a blue waistcoat when dressed up in sgt pepper costume.
yeah, but that's also what he as wearing at the manager's (peter Jenner's) house while he was writing it. jenner always thought that "vegetable man" was a description of himself and then also that "jughead" wa sa self-diagnosis of schizophrenia ("... i'm wondering who could be writing this song...").
Also, Syd was friends with Paul before his supposed accident. If anyone could tell the difference between old Paul and new Paul, it was Syd. Its possible Vegetable Man was written by Syd from dead Paul's perspective....as maybe was Jugband Blues - the song Syd specifically requested to be the first single to be released from this album. Syd's creativity was amazing.
One more thing: at the end of Vegetable Man, if you ever get a chance to hear a clean copy of this song, you will hear a number of voices and sounds all going on at the same time. This was Syd's letter to us describing what was going on in his head. And that is chilling, man.
"Vegetable Man" is one of the great Pink Floyd songs, never officially released. This would have fit perfectly on Saucerful of Secrets. Unfortunately at this time, Syd was flaming out, the band was up in arms with his behavior (and very scared for their future as a group) and the pressure of it all led to this song being left off. Also, there is another version of this song out there, slightly different. I know, I have it, and it cranks!!!
Then, we have differing opinions. I will note that I never said that rehab could have helped Syd. I don't think that it could have. I think Syd suffered from the same sort of thing as John Frusciante. Frusciante made it back. Syd stopped recording professionally.
I know that they were very different drugs. That is not what I am talking about. I mean the difficulty with being famous and the pressures of having to produce and producing things you may not like.
actually Syd had schizophrenia an organic brain disease that psychedelic drugs can exacerbate...the "heroic doses" of LSD Syd took sure didn't help but they were notthe cause of Syds delusians or the voices that began non-stop babble within his head.Terribly tragic 1 in 100 people ...He was 1
Greatly enjoyed MATILDA MOTHER and VEGETABLE MAN. One could easily do the TWIST to Vegetable Man. Was Chubby Checker also schizophrenic or did he just take too much acid?
Possibly true that Syd dropped too much acid for his particular constitution -- I have seen people take more than he did without the same possible effects. That said, I think it is also true that he may not have been dropped had Pink Floyd had more compassion and less greed. He did not need Betty Ford. See: John Frusciante.
I didn't know that there were a lot of different versions... I've heard this one and the one that was on Magnesium Proverbs, but that's it. I don't know how to find any more. I really wish I could, though.
yeah I've come across a few here and there but I only have the mono version where it doesn't sound like there's a thousand Syd's singing it but just one. at least I think its mono....
Well, if I recall correctly, these four tracks are from their BBC Radio Sessions, and can be downloaded on bit-torrent from Yeeshkull and likely Pirate Bay.
dont agree as a floyd fan. i think everyone was an important part of floyd. syd in the 60's, waters in the 70's & 80's, and gilmoure in the rest! just a fantastic band! thankyou for posting this album posttoaste. very rare!
pink floyd was syd barrett and a band. they were a 60s band with imagination. when syd was kicked out they became a hippie band with no real purpose. they lost it.
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fdsvenskvisslare 3 months ago
these are my ears after listen this video >>> ♥.♥
bingbangbumm 1 year ago
syd was an artist more than a pop star. don't forget he was only 20 when he wrote and performed all the "piper" stuff as well as most of this. had he stuck with it, he would have improved technically. but a polished, technical guitar player was not what syd was or what the early floyd benefited from. instead it was his amazing style and unique qualities that propelled their early success. syd was beautiful and overwhelmingly original and talented
knickd1979 1 year ago 2
well roger could pen out some pretty meaningful lyrics compared to the others, but it got to his head. syd's guitar playing was innovative and unique but he wasnt amazing but thats what made it so good ya know? now syd's lyrical work is unparalled! the whole of the pink floyd's work is amazing no matter who wrote the music
ungrats 2 years ago 4
its the bbc version of vegetable man.
JAYROX1969 2 years ago
I love that you included "Vegetable Man" on this posting. It sounds like the version they used on the Omnibus Doc.
All the other postings of that song on here are too fast.
Cheers
Epponnee 2 years ago 2
how can he say cobain was barely a musician? thats stupid
kiss904 2 years ago
this version of vegetable man is different. I likes it, if only the sound quality wasn't so godawful.
Motherbrainzebes 2 years ago
This is rare, I have never heard these versions before...btw... I'd like to let everyone out there know the Chinese Communist Party has been persecuting 70 million Falun Gong spiritual practitioners for 10 years in China. They are put in slave-labor camps and forced to make stuff sold here. They take organs from them to sell on the black market. The media doesn't cover it. It must stop. Thanks.
darinmaclachlan 2 years ago
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animalmother4 2 years ago
thats nuts
2unit 2 years ago
You have to be impressed that they can push around 70million people,I mean, it's a horrific thing to do...but still...
FlakeyFreakout 2 years ago
Listening to Vegetable Man, Scream Thy Last Scream and Jugband Blues, i get the feeling that Syd may have consciously enjoyed the fact of being pegged as a loony. i mean, maybe he was becoming mentally unstable but his songwriting showed that he - at least - found some kind of romantism in it and he was able to witness it from an outer point of view. my guess is that he wasn't that crazy, he kind of built his myth himself, for himself.
mastaflatch 2 years ago 6
VEGETABLE MAN IS COOL A LOT ;)
youtubbeisshit 2 years ago
I dont know if this vers. of Vegetable Man is original studio sound...but they made huge mistake unreleasing it. It so fantastic!!
BoboShota 3 years ago 5
OOOH THIS IS GREAT!! :) LOVE IT.
sydbarrett1973 3 years ago
Good toast this!
Timebandit720 3 years ago
hahahaha this is so warped but awesome
bonzelite 3 years ago
Thanks a million, I love this version of Vegetable Man!
Deathryzer 3 years ago
This is a rare BBC Radio broadcast. Unfortunately the BBC have lost the tapes!
nickhirst999 3 years ago
wow!
autozonesucks 3 years ago
FLAMING***** / THE GNOME***** / MATHILDA MOTHER***** / THE SCARECROW***** /
***** BBC PLAYHOUSE THEATRE LONDON 25.Sep.67
VEGETABLE MAN / POW R TOC H /
SCREAM THY LAST SCREAM / JUGBAND BLUES
BBC MAIDA VALE STUDIOS LONDON 20.Dec.67
CthulhuWaitsDreaming 3 years ago
I heard this exxact version in the BBC documentary The Pink Floyd And Syd Barrett Story!
awesome!
ToastmachineIdiot 4 years ago
i think ther's nobody better than sid barrett whit pink floyd.thanks because you was existe....
serenella0 4 years ago 6
Hooray!
pogopogopogo3 4 years ago 2
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the Jesus and Mary Chain version is so much better
ABTE67 4 years ago
are you making a joke if not on what song did jesus and the mary chain cover
420allday69 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this.
Rolandzebub 4 years ago
I think Syd has finally found his place to be, must be a great jam happening in another dimension!
lordsod69 4 years ago 4
Just hand me down give me a place to be
JoeChrisMorris 4 years ago
LOVE YA MAN R.I.P
SHYEYE321 4 years ago 3
myspace also has a great alternate version of Vegetable Man. Here is the address:
profile dot myspace dot com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=92567504
blempo 4 years ago
Syd was a really good guitar player. Maybe not so technically skilly than some real "professional-guitarists", but he was just a genius guy who made art by playin' the guitar PERSONALLY. Get a life, all u who blame syd.
Karrpenter 4 years ago 14
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What i meant is that he was barely a guitar player... i dont care if he knew how to play the flute and the oboe, this is rock n roll
zeppfan89 4 years ago
Amazing! Thank you for the post! It's been years since I heard this. Doesn't it sound suspiciously a bit like Stg Pepper period? Methinks Lennon was a serious fan too.
tubelogin1 4 years ago 3
Pink Floyd's debut album, "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" was recorded at the same time and same studio as the Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band." It could be guessed that both bands heard each other's music through the walls, and both bands inspired each other. I think both albums are in the same psychedelic vein.
blempo 4 years ago 3
I agree I think Lennons "what a shame mary jane"is a very very syd style song there is a version of it where I honestly think Syd sings a little of the chorus at the end tell me your opinion please
search cleavitoria third video thanks
mslaerik 4 years ago 3
Yes it is true Syd was a great Beatles fan (He always admited it)...and syd and the beatles performed together "What a shame mary Jane"...Barrett supposely sang the song.. However there are a bounch of debates upon this...
overmat 4 years ago
I read somewhere that Syd helped write a few lines on "What a Shama Mary Jane".
BeechwoodSilasLang 4 years ago
Doubtful
Tho who knows how often the Beatles bumped into the Pink Floyd Sound in Studio 2
JoeChrisMorris 4 years ago
While recording Piper At The Gates of Dawn, the Pink Floyd were ushered into a Beatles recording session. They were doing Lovely Rita at the time...
BeechwoodSilasLang 3 years ago
That must have been the summum of Psychedelia
siralbarrett 3 years ago
there's nothing to prove that Syd helped with the song, but, in my opinion, the song sounds very similar to pink floyd's early days
alemaldonado 3 years ago
this is pink floyd in the earlier days it's syd singing
420allday69 3 years ago
im taking about "what a shame mary jane"
alemaldonado 3 years ago
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Syd was barely a musician...but had an añazing imagination
zeppfan89 4 years ago
Barely a musician!?!?!?!?!
He could play any string instrument from the moment he popped out of the womb, he was a prodigy and he spent his entire life as a youngster playing in orchestras and bands with family and friends. He was touted as being 'the next Mozart', he was a brilliant musician and played many instruments other than strings, also, including woodwinds and brass. I'm sure you will hear it from many others, soon. get a clue!
PostToastie 4 years ago 7
Are you mad?!? Syd was brilliant! You should listen to "Bike" and "Arnold Lanye!"
Noizchild 4 years ago 13
He started on a ukelele from what I understand, at age 9 (8?)
JoeChrisMorris 4 years ago
i heard banjo
420allday69 3 years ago
@zeppfan89 you meant a technic musician...
san5a89 10 months ago
Vegetable Man.... Where are youuuuuuuuuuu?
RIP Syd
ole20mufc 4 years ago 2
ScarBarrett, Collin is right, the Beatles and The Byrds pretty much popularized psychedelic music in the public conscience several months before The Pink Floyd hit the mark. However, Syd absolutely took it to the next level within the British scene, much the same way Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful dead did in San Fransisco.
Incidentally, only idiots would write off Kurt Cobain as a musician. Who cares if he wasn't technical?
sheridw 4 years ago
thank you so much for posting these songs, as well as the other two parts of flowers and vegetables. this is the only place on the web (or anywhere else for that matter) i have been able to hear vegetable man. you have brought much happiness!
dwdeclare 4 years ago
no shit.
The beattles are far away from being psychedelic music....they had they psychedelic tracks, no dpoubt...but a few xD
ScarBarrett 4 years ago
syd forever...
postesedoc 4 years ago 3
if anyone knows where syd got the 1st album name from they are a real fan hehe
thegnome23 4 years ago
The Piper at the Gates of Dawn was the title of a chapter from a book- the book was Wind in the Willows, if I'm not mistaken.
MasterSpatula11 4 years ago
and it was chapter 7;"the number of young light".
SydShines4ever 4 years ago
Could Syd have chosen that chapter because it is the seventh,"when things cannot be destroyed once and for all"?I have got to get that book and start searching for hidden meanings!=D
SydShines4ever 4 years ago
By the way, before you all come back at me defending some dead musician you never met. Remember that I have a right to express my opinion.
gfgdafgdf 4 years ago
P.S. See Emily Play is an example of what Syd was capable of. Just a pity he couldn't fulfil it. The early experimentation definitely influenced the later Floyd too. The later stuff is definitely of a much higher quality. I'm not a big fan of the rest of Syd's stuff, just took exception to the "useless crank" remark. Take it easy...
padraigoconnor 4 years ago
FINE! But why pick a fight with fans of Syd with this comment. Did you meet Lennon? Cobain? Buckley? Yet like everyone else you have an opinion... I think Syd Barrett was great and will argue it with anyone. Yet I will listen to everyone else who hinks he was shite. Keep your 'dead musician you never met' comments to yourself. They do not become a sensible argument!
twcox 4 years ago 2
Cobain and Buckley? Lol. Syd Barrett was a genius, they were barely even musicians.
AreYouExperiencedJH 4 years ago 2
Not to take anything off Syd, who sure was a genius, but your comment is quite uninformed.
mastaflatch 2 years ago
Kurt Cobain was painfully dull.
AreYouExperiencedJH 2 years ago
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I used to like this stuff!
I soon realised how much of a useless crank Barrett actually was.
Pink Floyd didn't come into their own until 'Meddle' in 1971. That record is the product of a very tight and aware band.
If you look at the Pink Floyd output from 1967-'68, it was a rag-tag collection of pseudo jazz jams and dodgy pop songs. They didn't differ from any of the English, so-called "experimental" psychedlic groups of the period. I love Pink Floyd, but their early output was pretty shoddy.
gfgdafgdf 4 years ago
Your opinion is that a musician who had a mental breakdown and is now dead was a "useless crank". You can keep it. Some of the early stuff was messy in comparison to the later stuff, but Barrett did have talent, and the early songs have much more personality. They're different. I like the later stuff too.
padraigoconnor 4 years ago
At that time (67-68) The Psycodelic rock didn't exist on England, fag, So its a bit different to be equal as someone that didn't existed DOH
Syd barrett started the English Psycodelic rock with their debut album The Piper at the gates of dawn
ScarBarrett 4 years ago 2
Actually im pretty sure the beatles started the psychedelic rock era with Revolver in 1966 which is when these songs were played
collin121212 4 years ago 2
Syd requested this lp be released on 9-11-1967 - exactly one year after Paul's supposed accident. Also, new Paul wore yellow shoes, velvet blue pants, and a blue waistcoat when dressed up in sgt pepper costume.
sydfan526 4 years ago
yeah, but that's also what he as wearing at the manager's (peter Jenner's) house while he was writing it. jenner always thought that "vegetable man" was a description of himself and then also that "jughead" wa sa self-diagnosis of schizophrenia ("... i'm wondering who could be writing this song...").
kategreen15 4 years ago
sorry..."jugBAND"...lol
kategreen15 4 years ago
Also, Syd was friends with Paul before his supposed accident. If anyone could tell the difference between old Paul and new Paul, it was Syd. Its possible Vegetable Man was written by Syd from dead Paul's perspective....as maybe was Jugband Blues - the song Syd specifically requested to be the first single to be released from this album. Syd's creativity was amazing.
sydfan526 4 years ago
shine on syd
mslaerik 4 years ago 2
yes
plexusnexus 4 years ago
One more thing: at the end of Vegetable Man, if you ever get a chance to hear a clean copy of this song, you will hear a number of voices and sounds all going on at the same time. This was Syd's letter to us describing what was going on in his head. And that is chilling, man.
publicimage1 4 years ago 2
"Vegetable Man" is one of the great Pink Floyd songs, never officially released. This would have fit perfectly on Saucerful of Secrets. Unfortunately at this time, Syd was flaming out, the band was up in arms with his behavior (and very scared for their future as a group) and the pressure of it all led to this song being left off. Also, there is another version of this song out there, slightly different. I know, I have it, and it cranks!!!
publicimage1 4 years ago
Can you imagine Vegetable Man as a single?!
I think Jugband Blues was recorded for that purpose, tho it ended up closing the SoS album, after Syd's services had been dismissed in very early 68
JoeChrisMorris 4 years ago
Then, we have differing opinions. I will note that I never said that rehab could have helped Syd. I don't think that it could have. I think Syd suffered from the same sort of thing as John Frusciante. Frusciante made it back. Syd stopped recording professionally.
MKFaizi 5 years ago
no it wasn't the same. it was completely different situations with completely opposite drugs.
valvsorc 5 years ago
I know that they were very different drugs. That is not what I am talking about. I mean the difficulty with being famous and the pressures of having to produce and producing things you may not like.
MKFaizi 5 years ago
actually Syd had schizophrenia an organic brain disease that psychedelic drugs can exacerbate...the "heroic doses" of LSD Syd took sure didn't help but they were notthe cause of Syds delusians or the voices that began non-stop babble within his head.Terribly tragic 1 in 100 people ...He was 1
gannibus 4 years ago
Oh, OK. I never heard that before.
MKFaizi 4 years ago
Greatly enjoyed MATILDA MOTHER and VEGETABLE MAN. One could easily do the TWIST to Vegetable Man. Was Chubby Checker also schizophrenic or did he just take too much acid?
MKFaizi 5 years ago
Possibly true that Syd dropped too much acid for his particular constitution -- I have seen people take more than he did without the same possible effects. That said, I think it is also true that he may not have been dropped had Pink Floyd had more compassion and less greed. He did not need Betty Ford. See: John Frusciante.
MKFaizi 5 years ago
there are so many different versions of vegetable man....
BlueScarecrow 5 years ago
I didn't know that there were a lot of different versions... I've heard this one and the one that was on Magnesium Proverbs, but that's it. I don't know how to find any more. I really wish I could, though.
MasterSpatula11 4 years ago
yeah I've come across a few here and there but I only have the mono version where it doesn't sound like there's a thousand Syd's singing it but just one. at least I think its mono....
BlueScarecrow 4 years ago
do you know where can I get the audio of this?
patomaiden 5 years ago
you can probably find the vinyl on ebay. i think its a picture disk lp.
Boshanks 5 years ago
Well, if I recall correctly, these four tracks are from their BBC Radio Sessions, and can be downloaded on bit-torrent from Yeeshkull and likely Pirate Bay.
They've been around for years.
walterfive 4 years ago
i think it was more of a personal choice for syd to leave, not cause he "went crazy" on acid, his solo stuff shows that he still had amazing talent
mcnutt41 5 years ago
i concur with kenny and thevirtallabb!! each one is a brick in the wall
diana19666 5 years ago
I concur with Kenny
thevirtuallabb 5 years ago
dont agree as a floyd fan. i think everyone was an important part of floyd. syd in the 60's, waters in the 70's & 80's, and gilmoure in the rest! just a fantastic band! thankyou for posting this album posttoaste. very rare!
kenny9048 5 years ago
everyone? what about Mason and Wright?
danrules180 5 years ago
pink floyd was syd barrett and a band. they were a 60s band with imagination. when syd was kicked out they became a hippie band with no real purpose. they lost it.
xglamxgirlx 5 years ago 2
dude, you lost it, when syd left they werent a "hippie" band, and they did very well without him
buganey32 5 years ago
also, what "purpose" did syd have in the band, and why would a band need a purpose, its not like they were trying to fight crime or anything
buganey32 5 years ago