@bdrabdra Toyota has electric power steering in many of their vehicles. Prius, Corolla, Sienna, Highlander. Basically they wrap a computer controlled DC motor around the steering shaft (inside the dash) and use a torque sensor to measure driver input.
If the batteries operate best at a certain temperature and you've just freed up a lot of weight, why not put a temperature sensor, microcontroller, and blowers right in the car so you can maintain the right temperature?
batteries also lose their charge just sitting not being used. they should invent solar paint that collects a charge whenever the suns shining and store in a light weight battery that doesnt lose any charge
electric has way more potential. the one main problem with electric is storing that power. batteries have not advanced as far as they could be. they're still heavy and cant hold a charge very long. if car companies would just advance the battery, the electric car will be the future.
i like to know what rear axel there is in u´r car..........what thing takes care of all that electric power without breaking down,pls answer, Thomas, Sweden, 47 y old ....and, i love u´r car !
Electric is the way to go for drag racing.......more volts = more power......only has to go a quarter mile......a motor with one moving part......and you dot have to rebuild it every second run.....to tune it ..just plug in the laptop.
@leaualorin DAMN THE GOV FOR INVENTING AIDS TO KILL POOR PEOPLE!!!! AND WHY DONT THEY JUST TELL US THAT ALIENS WONT GIVE US AC BATTERYS UNTIL WE KILL ALL THE POLAR BEARS!!!
have many great ideas of making an infinite range car minus mechanical breakdowns and such,also have many great ideas 4 infinite electricaly powered homes again minus mech problems and such,only prob is broke off my ace and aint got money,if i had some financial backing,=financer+i could become very wealthy.shhh dont tell the oil companys (they might send assasins)!!!!:)
the only advantage electric engines have is the they develop 100% of its power/torque output at every single rpm which means the transmission is always a 1 speed = no gear changes. that´s why the electric drag car caught up that fast after the launch when it raced the mustang. the mustang did have a manual transmission = he lost like 2 car lenghts on every shift. in that case - get a automatic trans with manual valve body and you´ll beat those electric cars with the same power to weight ratio
@HEMIH3AD Actually Electric motors have an ideal RPM same as internal combustion engines. All electric motors have to be designed for efficiency at the required RPM, Loading, and Input KW values.
To efficiently use the motors power the car would still need a gearbox.
@JesusHChrist2000 tell that to the designers of the Tesla Motors Roadster that only uses 1 gear, that electric motor spins up to I think 13000 rpms. Some of the other electric dragsters I've seen use two DC motors coupled together running in parallel at low speeds and in series at higher rpms, also eliminating the need for that gear box you wrongly believe is required for these applications.
O.K. so why not add a wind-powered generator behind the grill and make the range infinite ?. Using some of the airflow to turn a fan attached to a generator would not drain power from the motor .
Design the car with a venturi shaped tunnel through the middle instead of a console . Mount a turbine fan driving by belt an alternator or generator , whatever , and as long as the car is moving forward the fan will turn the generator and keep the battery charged . It ain't rocket surgery .
what motor was used or ideal. I see electric motors for sale at 7 Hp or 1 HP by high torque. The White Zombie has a custom 9 inch from high torque. What gives the best performance.
@marktse The user marionrickard who does EVTV has said that they get incredibly marginal gain, from the tests they've done. You can hear him say this on EVTV Friday Show, November 12, 2010.
How come my Hybrid Camry cost $26,000 but a Tesla Roadster is $100,000 and has more moving parts? Is it the battery? When an automaker makes an electric car that can get 300 miles on a charge @ an affordable price we'll all be driving it! We don't have to be converted we just need it to exist! =)
How come my Hybrid Camry cost $26,000 but a Tesla Roadster is $100,000 and has more moving parts? Is it the battery? When an automaker makes an electric car that can get 300 miles on a charge @ an affordable price we'll all be driving it! We don't have to be converted we just need it to exist! =)
How come my Hybrid Camry cost $26,000 but a Tesla Roadster is $100,000 and has more moving parts? Is it the battery? When an automaker makes an electric car that can get 300 miles on a charge @ an affordable price we'll all be driving it! We don't have to be converted we just need it to exist! =)
As an electrical engineer, I know the awesome power of electrical energy when harnessed and channeled properly.
This electrified old Datsun just proves what everybody in the electrical industry already know. And guess what?... This is only the beginning: smaller, more powerful and efficient motors and batteries are coming on stream, and soon....ethanol fuel cells.
@krislyttle i heard some about nanowire bateries or something are they gonna be more powerfull? what are nanowire batteires? and when are we gonna have electric cars like with normal prices ? hehe sorry for all the questions but im exited about electric cars .
@tbcslayer I appreciate your enthusiasm. Nanotech for electrical systems have been discussed just about everywhere recently. As for when we'll see this commercially, your guess is as good as mine.
Fuck the nissan leaf. Wait for the Tesla model s. It goes 300 miles and can be charged in 45 minutes. It also has the largest trunk/hood space out of any sedan...ever...Sure, its $50k but it goes 0-6 in about 5 seconds
Now how can you incorporate a power steering pump, and an air condition into all this, while keeping your car's drivable range? I guess what I am really asking is, how much would this reduce the range?
Petroleum has ruled transportation because of its unmatched cost vs energy/power density. A barrel of oil contains around 1700kwh of energy. It can be pulled out of the ground in Iraq for about a dollar and weighs 150 pounds, ready to use. By contrast, a NiMh battery to store that much energy costs $750,000 and weighs 24,000 pounds. No way can we fit a barrel of oil's worth of energy into a car in electric form. At least, not yet. Battery development will grow as oil production declines.
Very good, but you missed out THE most important fact....
A gasoline power ICE car is only 15% energy efficient at the wheels.... so $85 out of every $100 you spend at the fuel bowser is converted into useless heat.
EVs by contrast use approx 1/10th the energy to do the same work so you only need to cart around 10% of the energy in the first place.
You need over 100kwh of wheel energy for a 300 mile range car. Gas engines weigh and cost a little more than electric motors with controls, plus their maintinence is greater over time. But the gas tank costs $100 and weighs 50 pounds full, vs $50,000 for a 110kwh battery that weighs over 3,000 pounds. Batteries are still much heavier and more expensive than gasoline. Until that changes, gas cars will dominate. ( I am a fan of electric cars though, they will eventually take over. I want one)
You are forgetting refinery and transportation costs for the oil/gas. Secondly, you don't need that much power with electric because it's more efficient. You are looking at things too simplistically and not realistically.
Also, there's also no way to fit a barrel's worth of energy into a gasoline car. Most cars hold 50L of gas while a barrel is 160L.
I agree with your overall point, but the way you come to that conclusion is fairly simplistic.
@lalunette I am not going to wait for anything commercial as they have the patents locked up tight. I am saving my pennies, get the land, than the power sources (3-D Solar, Wind (barrel, vertical), hydrogen) than I will convert a car for my personal use...and than start converting them for family, than friends...since I will not be selling them, screw the patents. I just want off oil period, tired of them jerking gas prices up and down willie nillie. screw em
Don't be such a dumbass simpleton. I'm not going to get fully into it, but just one point: Where do you think the electricity is going to come from to power up the billions of battery cells to make all the cars run??? Nuclear energy maybe? Coal fired generators? Then you and you're cronies going to be bitching about nuclear waste and carbon emissions even more. Go get an education.
Dear Vince, So much for your incredible line of thought, still focused on the problem, not the solution. Those who are forward thinkers and looking to electric for fuel realize that there is this big ball of free power in the sky. How about solar power to charge the batteries, or turbine power, last time I checked the wind was constatnt and free too.
Be part of the solution or part of the problem, your choice.
You ,my friend, have no clue as to the functioning and capabilities of the technologies you're attempting to discuss.You must be a Liberal. My line of thought, contrary to your sophomoric and idealistic romanticizing, is quite credible,and realistic. Do you know how large a windfield would be needed to charge a car battery for any more than a run down a dragstrip? I do. Do you know how large of a... Never mind - waste of calories.
Don't be so naive, and as I said before - get youself educated.
Typical babble from a closed mind. For you information, in most areas I am conservative. But I am not a moron who labels myself to only one set of values. When it comes to our energy supply, then I guess you can call me a liberal, if that means using common sense and the powers that nature affords us.
You can continue to find the problems- that is the easy way out.
and now we all see the type of person you are. One who reverts to curse and name calling when they realize their argument is lost. There ALREADY exists enough technology to use solar to not only power an entire home AND it's electric car, but also put more power back into the grid. Politics is the only thing in the way.
ok then, please oh please almighty wise one with the 50 cent SAT words, please enlighten the rockheads of the world as to why solar/electric power is not a viable option.
I'm simply replying to your inane ramblings - which are off topic.
I NEVER said or implied that electric power is not a viable option.
Go back and read the thread.
I simply believe you to be an empty headed thoughtless plebeian for believing battery stored electricity to be an immediate and faultless energy panacea, and for blaming government for not doing anything about it. Since when did the gov't. become the electric company?
Go do some reading or something, you've a lot to catch up on.
1- I never went off topic, this is began as a conversation about electric energy and my post reflect that.
2- You have yet to make statement STATING your position, nevermind defending it.
3- When given the chance to "educate", you offer nothing
4 - all you have said so far is "read something" and "educate yourself" ,you have offered no enlightenment of your own to show you have anything to contribute. You are a sesquipedalian and a waste of time. This conversation is over.
you called him a cunt because you remembered you dont actually know ANYTHING about the topic were discussing
babbling about coal and nuclear energy production, you know modern nuclear energy is clean as hell its just expensive to do right, right?
and also countries such as denmark have up to 20 percent of there energy needs satisfied by wind power alone, thats not counting any solar or hydroelectric dams they may have
first off, worldwide in 2009 there was 340 TWh of energy produced solely on wind farms, one turbine on average produces 3066 MWh annually according to the world wind energy association
i dont know how much energy you think it takes to run a car but it certainly doesnt take more then ONE turbine to charge up a car for a long distance trip much further then a drag strip.
80 percent of british columbia's electricity is produced through hydro electric plants 100% clean
also you forget that once these wind farms and hydroelectric plants are built they require very very little if any maintenance, that in combination with the fact that the electric brushless motors are also basically no maintenance means that once the initial investment is made you dont have to continue paying for the energy production. btw the fact you tried to tell somebody else they have no idea what they are talking about when you clearly dont impresses me. you sir are a rare one
And those of us who can't afford the conversion (looks like these guys have TONS of sponsors), would spend even more money trying to afford gas (because gas prices would greatly increase due to a dramatic decrease in gasoline purchases).
The US has (or at least had) cheap gas for many years because of our govt. working hand in hand with the petrol lobbies. Gas isn't cheap in the rest of the world, that's why Euro cars, with their tiny engines, were beating the pants of American muscle cars. The lack of cheap disposable energy resulted in smarter engineering and getting more bang from limited sized engines. Now, if our asshole govt. funded electrical technology it would bring the costs down. Come on! you know that!
@jaindls Now you get a taste of what the rest of the world has to deal with having the United States resting on their shoulders. It's about time that America learns what REAL sacrifice is.
@Aleowiciuos What are you getting at? I'm sorry that America is better off than your company, that gives you no right to sit here and say that we don't know about sacrifices. It's not my fucking problem that your country is dependent on us apparently. Sorry.
@jaindls uhhhh, perhaps you don't know how to read English very well. Resting on someones shoulders means that you're dependent on them. Clearly speaking, the U.S. is dependent on the rest of the world. What part of this don't you understand? Other countries can fend for themselves. They're not the big pussies that Americans have grown to become.
@Aleowiciuos I'm just fucking with you man, I agree with you, I wouldn't say the rest of the world, but they are definitely dependent, just like many other countries, all of the countries that are well off are pretty much dependent on each other. At least that's my view. Where are you from? Because you are REALLY hating on Americans right now. "They're not the big pussies that Americans have grown to become." Where are you from?
You need to know the operating speed to figure how much actual output the engine can create. HP = Torque(In LBS/FT) X 5252. So seeing a torque graph will tell you how the energy comes out of the engine and a HP figure, A HP figure can tell you the actual performance when applied to gears and the ground. HP is actual power, torque is just an unmastered measurement of output.
wrd on the wire is that theres an electric datsun out there runnin on no emissions once so evr thats actually runnin 4.2 on the 1/4 mile does n e 1 kno where i can find the vid that car at????
1) All M1 cells are 50C according to A123 specs and that is what they sell to Dewalt.
2) A Dewalt 'pack' contains 10x M1 cells and they're all over ebay for $100 which is $10 a cell. Killacycle are sponsored by A123 so get a steep discount.
Standard Li-ion 18650 cells 3.8v @ 2400mAh cost around $3 a cell, again check ebay. Times $3 by 6800 and you get approx the cost of the 50kw/hr pack in the Tesla. Works out at about $4000 for 10kw/hr.
Well that's the trick with EVs. No one makes and sells these Li-ion A123 battery packs, they're all backyard jobs. I think this one is an old Killacycle pack off an early version of their bike.
The problem is there's no 'off-the-shelf' BMS for this kind of set up so you'll need to design, make and test a 1000 cell BMS yourself before A123 will sell to you.
A123 do sell a 5kw/hr pack to convert Prius to plug-in for $10,000 but 10-20kw/hr is about the Min needed for an EV.
How much do they sell individual cells for? Do you have to have a minimum purchase? You mean a balancing circuit for each individual cell right? and heat and monitoring system built into the pack?
The 'street' price to buy A123 cells in Dewalt power tool pack form is about $10 per cell (10 cells per pack) off ebay.
The custom made BMS has to balance at 3.8v and also must monitor and alarm min volts at 2v for each parallel group of cells and monitor pack temp and alarm at 60C.
Bear in mind to get 380v you need 110 cells in series and Killacycle run 11 parallel giving a total of 1210 cells to get approx 10kw/hr.
I'll never understand the American public. Why are people not demanding we use this technology? Minority groups can take prayer out of school and important issues get swept away. The people with the most money control what people think about.
And I have to watch "The Death of the Electric Car" on HBO.
@bdrabdra Toyota has electric power steering in many of their vehicles. Prius, Corolla, Sienna, Highlander. Basically they wrap a computer controlled DC motor around the steering shaft (inside the dash) and use a torque sensor to measure driver input.
SoundAboutRight 1 day ago
If the batteries operate best at a certain temperature and you've just freed up a lot of weight, why not put a temperature sensor, microcontroller, and blowers right in the car so you can maintain the right temperature?
TrueSacredRahXephon 1 week ago
batteries also lose their charge just sitting not being used. they should invent solar paint that collects a charge whenever the suns shining and store in a light weight battery that doesnt lose any charge
Bongwater123 2 weeks ago
electric has way more potential. the one main problem with electric is storing that power. batteries have not advanced as far as they could be. they're still heavy and cant hold a charge very long. if car companies would just advance the battery, the electric car will be the future.
Bongwater123 2 weeks ago
800 lbs of torque,not bad..lol
s3xyScorp 1 month ago
I love electric cars.
frea1able 1 month ago
fuck electric cars, i think i'll keep my 99 Suburban!!!!!!!
Tbolt1000TForLife 3 months ago
"Listen to that sound....listen to that sound....that's the sound of electric power" LOVE IT!!!
ElectricAvenuesIRE 4 months ago
That guy is an eco psycho. I gotta ask him if we're related, because there is some disturbingly similar behavior here!
Beef1188 4 months ago
i like to know what rear axel there is in u´r car..........what thing takes care of all that electric power without breaking down,pls answer, Thomas, Sweden, 47 y old ....and, i love u´r car !
1979ascona 5 months ago
Electric is the way to go for drag racing.......more volts = more power......only has to go a quarter mile......a motor with one moving part......and you dot have to rebuild it every second run.....to tune it ..just plug in the laptop.
andgate2000 5 months ago
@leaualorin DAMN THE GOV FOR INVENTING AIDS TO KILL POOR PEOPLE!!!! AND WHY DONT THEY JUST TELL US THAT ALIENS WONT GIVE US AC BATTERYS UNTIL WE KILL ALL THE POLAR BEARS!!!
sheridanj26 5 months ago
I want to know how long the battery last just driving it around town normally.
NathansBackwoods 6 months ago
No such thing as an AC battery? Pfft, the aliens probably have one.
MrDrocman 6 months ago
Beefed up camaro should be afraid? LOL. "Beefed Up" = 8 second 1/4.
Vaicurious 7 months ago
have many great ideas of making an infinite range car minus mechanical breakdowns and such,also have many great ideas 4 infinite electricaly powered homes again minus mech problems and such,only prob is broke off my ace and aint got money,if i had some financial backing,=financer+i could become very wealthy.shhh dont tell the oil companys (they might send assasins)!!!!:)
gigantor466 8 months ago
the only advantage electric engines have is the they develop 100% of its power/torque output at every single rpm which means the transmission is always a 1 speed = no gear changes. that´s why the electric drag car caught up that fast after the launch when it raced the mustang. the mustang did have a manual transmission = he lost like 2 car lenghts on every shift. in that case - get a automatic trans with manual valve body and you´ll beat those electric cars with the same power to weight ratio
HEMIH3AD 10 months ago
@HEMIH3AD Actually Electric motors have an ideal RPM same as internal combustion engines. All electric motors have to be designed for efficiency at the required RPM, Loading, and Input KW values.
To efficiently use the motors power the car would still need a gearbox.
JesusHChrist2000 9 months ago
@JesusHChrist2000 tell that to the designers of the Tesla Motors Roadster that only uses 1 gear, that electric motor spins up to I think 13000 rpms. Some of the other electric dragsters I've seen use two DC motors coupled together running in parallel at low speeds and in series at higher rpms, also eliminating the need for that gear box you wrongly believe is required for these applications.
therotaryrocket 9 months ago
@therotaryrocket I was pointing out that no motor, electric or otherwise develops 100% of its torque at every RPM which you wrongly believe.
JesusHChrist2000 9 months ago
@northrop- It'd be great if it was that simple. What you propose is perpetual motion, & last time I checked, nobody has put a patent on that one yet.
oldboatclub 10 months ago
O.K. so why not add a wind-powered generator behind the grill and make the range infinite ?. Using some of the airflow to turn a fan attached to a generator would not drain power from the motor .
Design the car with a venturi shaped tunnel through the middle instead of a console . Mount a turbine fan driving by belt an alternator or generator , whatever , and as long as the car is moving forward the fan will turn the generator and keep the battery charged . It ain't rocket surgery .
northropz 11 months ago
Why is Castrol Syntec the sponsor add that pops up at the very end... It should be Duracel or somethin instead lol...
MisterTNT86 1 year ago
too bad it cant swim...
ethownzbh 1 year ago
what motor was used or ideal. I see electric motors for sale at 7 Hp or 1 HP by high torque. The White Zombie has a custom 9 inch from high torque. What gives the best performance.
marktse 1 year ago
why did he use a DC motor and not and AC motor? He could probably get some recharge from braking if he did that.
marktse 1 year ago
@marktse Because there is no such thing as an AC battery.
JesusHChrist2000 9 months ago
@marktse The user marionrickard who does EVTV has said that they get incredibly marginal gain, from the tests they've done. You can hear him say this on EVTV Friday Show, November 12, 2010.
sgtpepper1138 3 weeks ago
wow!
sweetgyy 1 year ago
I would like to do a duel motor all wheel drive ev.. Think of the launch a how well it will do.. I want to build a 9 sec .. Ev.. Who can help?
turbosaleen347 1 year ago
@turbosaleen347 and they already have 3000 pounds of torque...lol
lionchamp29 10 months ago
this car fucking rocks good job awsome work
z71rider123 1 year ago
just like an onroad R/C car!!
buddyclubs 1 year ago
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How come my Hybrid Camry cost $26,000 but a Tesla Roadster is $100,000 and has more moving parts? Is it the battery? When an automaker makes an electric car that can get 300 miles on a charge @ an affordable price we'll all be driving it! We don't have to be converted we just need it to exist! =)
Chm2fast 1 year ago
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How come my Hybrid Camry cost $26,000 but a Tesla Roadster is $100,000 and has more moving parts? Is it the battery? When an automaker makes an electric car that can get 300 miles on a charge @ an affordable price we'll all be driving it! We don't have to be converted we just need it to exist! =)
Chm2fast 1 year ago
How come my Hybrid Camry cost $26,000 but a Tesla Roadster is $100,000 and has more moving parts? Is it the battery? When an automaker makes an electric car that can get 300 miles on a charge @ an affordable price we'll all be driving it! We don't have to be converted we just need it to exist! =)
Chm2fast 1 year ago
hey im planning to convert a car to electric, but i was wondering how you did that transmittionless, shifting can you explain how you did it
thanks alot!
pbmartin14 1 year ago
loose the crappy music for crying out loud
great car but the music destroys the whole clip :(
jpmini 2 years ago
As an electrical engineer, I know the awesome power of electrical energy when harnessed and channeled properly.
This electrified old Datsun just proves what everybody in the electrical industry already know. And guess what?... This is only the beginning: smaller, more powerful and efficient motors and batteries are coming on stream, and soon....ethanol fuel cells.
I love technology!
krislyttle 2 years ago
@krislyttle i heard some about nanowire bateries or something are they gonna be more powerfull? what are nanowire batteires? and when are we gonna have electric cars like with normal prices ? hehe sorry for all the questions but im exited about electric cars .
tbcslayer 1 year ago
@tbcslayer I appreciate your enthusiasm. Nanotech for electrical systems have been discussed just about everywhere recently. As for when we'll see this commercially, your guess is as good as mine.
krislyttle 1 year ago
@tbcslayer Nissan Leaf EV price was announced yesterday at $25k.. see my other videos.
tsport100 1 year ago
@tbcslayer
Fuck the nissan leaf. Wait for the Tesla model s. It goes 300 miles and can be charged in 45 minutes. It also has the largest trunk/hood space out of any sedan...ever...Sure, its $50k but it goes 0-6 in about 5 seconds
andrewm153351 1 year ago
Now how can you incorporate a power steering pump, and an air condition into all this, while keeping your car's drivable range? I guess what I am really asking is, how much would this reduce the range?
justinsn95 2 years ago
HOLY FAST.
how much did it cost to build not including the car itself
andrew0901280 2 years ago
IMHO:
1. Petroleum rules because there simply is to many mega rich greedy people (mostly men) protecting there turf.
2. Sadly n not surprisingly, to date (Nov. 2oo9) best source for this n better Li battery technology is China.
3. Not sure, are we (USA) as a society better at being greedy or ignorant. Perhaps it is a combination of both?
4. Sincerely hope I am wrong with items 1. thru 3.
UTubeGlennAR 2 years ago 3
Petroleum has ruled transportation because of its unmatched cost vs energy/power density. A barrel of oil contains around 1700kwh of energy. It can be pulled out of the ground in Iraq for about a dollar and weighs 150 pounds, ready to use. By contrast, a NiMh battery to store that much energy costs $750,000 and weighs 24,000 pounds. No way can we fit a barrel of oil's worth of energy into a car in electric form. At least, not yet. Battery development will grow as oil production declines.
proaudiohd 2 years ago
Very good, but you missed out THE most important fact....
A gasoline power ICE car is only 15% energy efficient at the wheels.... so $85 out of every $100 you spend at the fuel bowser is converted into useless heat.
EVs by contrast use approx 1/10th the energy to do the same work so you only need to cart around 10% of the energy in the first place.
tsport100 2 years ago 6
You need over 100kwh of wheel energy for a 300 mile range car. Gas engines weigh and cost a little more than electric motors with controls, plus their maintinence is greater over time. But the gas tank costs $100 and weighs 50 pounds full, vs $50,000 for a 110kwh battery that weighs over 3,000 pounds. Batteries are still much heavier and more expensive than gasoline. Until that changes, gas cars will dominate. ( I am a fan of electric cars though, they will eventually take over. I want one)
proaudiohd 2 years ago
You're just making those numbers up!
1) EVs consume 150 - 200 wh/mi so it's 50 kWh to do 300 miles.
2) The current price is $300 kWh and falling 8% per year and that's BEFORE mass production of EV sized cells has even started.
3) So it's $20,000 and 500kg.. for a pack that lasts 10 years before it degrades to 80% DOC (which is STILL useable)
The difference is EVs cost $0.01 per mile for a high performance EV compared to as much as $0.40 per mile for an ICE of equal performance.
tsport100 2 years ago 5
You are forgetting refinery and transportation costs for the oil/gas. Secondly, you don't need that much power with electric because it's more efficient. You are looking at things too simplistically and not realistically.
Also, there's also no way to fit a barrel's worth of energy into a gasoline car. Most cars hold 50L of gas while a barrel is 160L.
I agree with your overall point, but the way you come to that conclusion is fairly simplistic.
nrXic 2 years ago
That's ELECTRIC baby !!!!
I can't wait until all this stuff is available commercially and I can remove the gas engine from my '90 Lada 2104 and go full electric !!!!
lalunette 2 years ago 13
@lalunette it is available just search for electric car the site ev works or ev parts and it is easy to do , I am doing it to my 1992 charade
sharmic1 1 year ago
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@lalunette you can do it now
daswada9 6 months ago
@lalunette I am not going to wait for anything commercial as they have the patents locked up tight. I am saving my pennies, get the land, than the power sources (3-D Solar, Wind (barrel, vertical), hydrogen) than I will convert a car for my personal use...and than start converting them for family, than friends...since I will not be selling them, screw the patents. I just want off oil period, tired of them jerking gas prices up and down willie nillie. screw em
cbemerine 1 month ago
Instant Tq but doesn't drop of right after tho ? Either that or its flat as a board 1 of the 2
TXmatrix2nr 2 years ago 2
It's a flat line. Peak Torque at Zero RPM all the way to Redline. With no gears (no shifting) since the engine can rotate at like 30,000 rpm.
Krackonis 2 years ago 2
Flat
0jiggy0 2 years ago 2
Fuck yea go electric power!! Yeah instant peak torque!!
calaislover 2 years ago 4
Yeah... and the car is in the shredder.
DRSmetal 2 years ago
Pffff!
Good one!
I nearly spewed my drink through my nose!
Over and out.
vince71362 2 years ago
To Aleowicious:
Don't be such a dumbass simpleton. I'm not going to get fully into it, but just one point: Where do you think the electricity is going to come from to power up the billions of battery cells to make all the cars run??? Nuclear energy maybe? Coal fired generators? Then you and you're cronies going to be bitching about nuclear waste and carbon emissions even more. Go get an education.
vince71362 2 years ago
Dear Vince, So much for your incredible line of thought, still focused on the problem, not the solution. Those who are forward thinkers and looking to electric for fuel realize that there is this big ball of free power in the sky. How about solar power to charge the batteries, or turbine power, last time I checked the wind was constatnt and free too.
Be part of the solution or part of the problem, your choice.
mags2569 2 years ago
You ,my friend, have no clue as to the functioning and capabilities of the technologies you're attempting to discuss.You must be a Liberal. My line of thought, contrary to your sophomoric and idealistic romanticizing, is quite credible,and realistic. Do you know how large a windfield would be needed to charge a car battery for any more than a run down a dragstrip? I do. Do you know how large of a... Never mind - waste of calories.
Don't be so naive, and as I said before - get youself educated.
vince71362 2 years ago
"You must be a Liberal" ?
Typical babble from a closed mind. For you information, in most areas I am conservative. But I am not a moron who labels myself to only one set of values. When it comes to our energy supply, then I guess you can call me a liberal, if that means using common sense and the powers that nature affords us.
You can continue to find the problems- that is the easy way out.
mags2569 2 years ago
You're straying off topic as you don't have the chops to stay on.
Stop being a cunt and drop it, you're boring.
Go get an education already - that's the solution.
PS: if in most areas you're a conservative, as you say, then we all know now you're a TOTAL a-hole.
vince71362 2 years ago
Liberal, cunt, a-hole...
and now we all see the type of person you are. One who reverts to curse and name calling when they realize their argument is lost. There ALREADY exists enough technology to use solar to not only power an entire home AND it's electric car, but also put more power back into the grid. Politics is the only thing in the way.
I will now leave you alone to find more problems
mags2569 2 years ago
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Yes, you just don't get it.
only way to talk to rockheads like you - it's the only topic you can address or stay on.
I am what I am, and that's not you.
I am grateful for that.
Stop spouting anecdotal hyperbole and
go get an education now. Silly boy.
vince71362 2 years ago
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wow- talk about getting off topic..
ok then, please oh please almighty wise one with the 50 cent SAT words, please enlighten the rockheads of the world as to why solar/electric power is not a viable option.
mags2569 2 years ago
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I'm simply replying to your inane ramblings - which are off topic.
I NEVER said or implied that electric power is not a viable option.
Go back and read the thread.
I simply believe you to be an empty headed thoughtless plebeian for believing battery stored electricity to be an immediate and faultless energy panacea, and for blaming government for not doing anything about it. Since when did the gov't. become the electric company?
Go do some reading or something, you've a lot to catch up on.
vince71362 2 years ago
1- I never went off topic, this is began as a conversation about electric energy and my post reflect that.
2- You have yet to make statement STATING your position, nevermind defending it.
3- When given the chance to "educate", you offer nothing
4 - all you have said so far is "read something" and "educate yourself" ,you have offered no enlightenment of your own to show you have anything to contribute. You are a sesquipedalian and a waste of time. This conversation is over.
mags2569 2 years ago
@vince71362
you are so fucking stupid it boggles my mind,
you called him a cunt because you remembered you dont actually know ANYTHING about the topic were discussing
babbling about coal and nuclear energy production, you know modern nuclear energy is clean as hell its just expensive to do right, right?
and also countries such as denmark have up to 20 percent of there energy needs satisfied by wind power alone, thats not counting any solar or hydroelectric dams they may have
testpipedh22a 1 year ago
you sir are retarded
first off, worldwide in 2009 there was 340 TWh of energy produced solely on wind farms, one turbine on average produces 3066 MWh annually according to the world wind energy association
i dont know how much energy you think it takes to run a car but it certainly doesnt take more then ONE turbine to charge up a car for a long distance trip much further then a drag strip.
80 percent of british columbia's electricity is produced through hydro electric plants 100% clean
testpipedh22a 1 year ago
@vince71362
also you forget that once these wind farms and hydroelectric plants are built they require very very little if any maintenance, that in combination with the fact that the electric brushless motors are also basically no maintenance means that once the initial investment is made you dont have to continue paying for the energy production. btw the fact you tried to tell somebody else they have no idea what they are talking about when you clearly dont impresses me. you sir are a rare one
testpipedh22a 1 year ago
i wish I was able to convert my Chevy cavalier to EV!
DRSmetal 2 years ago
John is a true American!!
DRSmetal 2 years ago 3
Too bad our idiot ex president didn't have the same reaction after the twin tower attacks. If he did, this world would be a better place
Aleowiciuos 3 years ago 16
We'd pay our asses off in batteries man.
And those of us who can't afford the conversion (looks like these guys have TONS of sponsors), would spend even more money trying to afford gas (because gas prices would greatly increase due to a dramatic decrease in gasoline purchases).
psychoninja911 2 years ago
The US has (or at least had) cheap gas for many years because of our govt. working hand in hand with the petrol lobbies. Gas isn't cheap in the rest of the world, that's why Euro cars, with their tiny engines, were beating the pants of American muscle cars. The lack of cheap disposable energy resulted in smarter engineering and getting more bang from limited sized engines. Now, if our asshole govt. funded electrical technology it would bring the costs down. Come on! you know that!
Aleowiciuos 2 years ago
Sort of but they sure as hell won't do that. They'd rather bail out the companies that make big gas consumers.
I thought that if less people were buying it, that the prices would go up. They'd have to increase the prices to meet the original profit margin.
psychoninja911 2 years ago
@Aleowiciuos Yeah, because Obama is doing a fucking fantastic job right now, taxing the shit out of everyone, that's a real stimulus package...
jaindls 1 year ago
@jaindls Now you get a taste of what the rest of the world has to deal with having the United States resting on their shoulders. It's about time that America learns what REAL sacrifice is.
Aleowiciuos 1 year ago
@Aleowiciuos What are you getting at? I'm sorry that America is better off than your company, that gives you no right to sit here and say that we don't know about sacrifices. It's not my fucking problem that your country is dependent on us apparently. Sorry.
jaindls 1 year ago
@jaindls uhhhh, perhaps you don't know how to read English very well. Resting on someones shoulders means that you're dependent on them. Clearly speaking, the U.S. is dependent on the rest of the world. What part of this don't you understand? Other countries can fend for themselves. They're not the big pussies that Americans have grown to become.
Aleowiciuos 1 year ago
@Aleowiciuos I'm just fucking with you man, I agree with you, I wouldn't say the rest of the world, but they are definitely dependent, just like many other countries, all of the countries that are well off are pretty much dependent on each other. At least that's my view. Where are you from? Because you are REALLY hating on Americans right now. "They're not the big pussies that Americans have grown to become." Where are you from?
jaindls 1 year ago
I need one of these engines for my Datsun 610 and my Datsun 710!!!! help me out Electro 1200!!! Jaime.
jaimecidcampeador 3 years ago
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if they would kick you off the track for having no roll bar then put one in you idiot
GORDOTRON89 3 years ago
man you are a dumb ass
peckiledorf 2 years ago
You need to know the operating speed to figure how much actual output the engine can create. HP = Torque(In LBS/FT) X 5252. So seeing a torque graph will tell you how the energy comes out of the engine and a HP figure, A HP figure can tell you the actual performance when applied to gears and the ground. HP is actual power, torque is just an unmastered measurement of output.
doujungle 3 years ago
800 foot pounds of torque = way cool. How much horsepower and what rpm does the motor spin to?
electricshockproof 3 years ago
wrd on the wire is that theres an electric datsun out there runnin on no emissions once so evr thats actually runnin 4.2 on the 1/4 mile does n e 1 kno where i can find the vid that car at????
Nismo1015 3 years ago
4.2 that's obviously BS
tsport100 3 years ago
Only 2 words come to mind...
HELL YEAH!
darkflame737 3 years ago
i wanna do that to a car, i wanna ELECTRIFY IT!
rtsoccerplayer 3 years ago
One good thing about your ride is if your house looses power you plug it into your car.
HA HA
REDneckCLOWN 3 years ago
Also if you have off peak power you can charge the car at half price overnight and run the house off cheap power during the day.
tsport100 3 years ago
this kicks ass hah i live in portland i saw this car it's a lot faster in person!
dermer007 3 years ago
What kind of rear end setup are you running to old up with the torque?
smasho275 3 years ago
Low end LiFePo4, can be had for $2/AH or $6,500 for a 10kw/h pack, these are limited to 10C tho, or 100kw. expect about 1000cycles
Mid range LiFePo4 can be had for $3/AH or $10,000 for a 10kw/h pack, these are limited to 30C or 300kw. expect 2000cycles
Top of the range A123, or nano will cost you alot, Dewalt do not sell top of the range A123, they are fitted with a budget variety.
A123 60C batts cost about $20 per cell.
ghostjaguar 3 years ago
1) All M1 cells are 50C according to A123 specs and that is what they sell to Dewalt.
2) A Dewalt 'pack' contains 10x M1 cells and they're all over ebay for $100 which is $10 a cell. Killacycle are sponsored by A123 so get a steep discount.
Standard Li-ion 18650 cells 3.8v @ 2400mAh cost around $3 a cell, again check ebay. Times $3 by 6800 and you get approx the cost of the 50kw/hr pack in the Tesla. Works out at about $4000 for 10kw/hr.
tsport100 3 years ago
Famous for fastest electric car and coining phrase Exploding dinosaur juice. The american dream baby
toob247 3 years ago
What company did he get the lithium pack from and for how much?
anewlow23 3 years ago
Well that's the trick with EVs. No one makes and sells these Li-ion A123 battery packs, they're all backyard jobs. I think this one is an old Killacycle pack off an early version of their bike.
The problem is there's no 'off-the-shelf' BMS for this kind of set up so you'll need to design, make and test a 1000 cell BMS yourself before A123 will sell to you.
A123 do sell a 5kw/hr pack to convert Prius to plug-in for $10,000 but 10-20kw/hr is about the Min needed for an EV.
tsport100 3 years ago
How much do they sell individual cells for? Do you have to have a minimum purchase? You mean a balancing circuit for each individual cell right? and heat and monitoring system built into the pack?
anewlow23 3 years ago
The 'street' price to buy A123 cells in Dewalt power tool pack form is about $10 per cell (10 cells per pack) off ebay.
The custom made BMS has to balance at 3.8v and also must monitor and alarm min volts at 2v for each parallel group of cells and monitor pack temp and alarm at 60C.
Bear in mind to get 380v you need 110 cells in series and Killacycle run 11 parallel giving a total of 1210 cells to get approx 10kw/hr.
tsport100 3 years ago
I'll never understand the American public. Why are people not demanding we use this technology? Minority groups can take prayer out of school and important issues get swept away. The people with the most money control what people think about.
And I have to watch "The Death of the Electric Car" on HBO.
uptimelook 3 years ago
I just watched "Who Killed the Electric Car" and I am absolutely astounded that such a vehicle (EV1) was killed so easily.
I agree with you, uptimelook... how are we so blind to this incredibly powerful tech?
neotamashii 3 years ago
Well, make it a DIY job and go out there and get people to say "I want that."
ReielSC 3 years ago
ohhhh yeah thats hot
paranoicb 3 years ago
DC rules... yes, sir!
frankodelic 3 years ago