Bible Idolaters are damned already because they Rejected The Spirit of Truth Jesus died to give the world.The king of england gave you a book you could call God and you have been under IT and NOT Jesus for your entire lives but ya cant See it.The Bible has made you Blind and deaf to Jesus Christ because you made it your God! Repent of Biblical priest craft. Ask Jesus for His Gift of The Spirit of Truth or return to the vomit of the bibles you Love to love.Jesus is The Word of God, not the bible.
@randywatchingbush BTW if continue to make false assumptions about me without even asking me what I believe then I will have to ask you to leave. I dont mind differing opinions but if you persist to say things about me that I do not believe or do, then I will help you to leave.
Your God is a bible, your way is carnal and your Pride and arrogance R apparent.You think much of yourself and dare to question Dougs work w/many who came out of the cults of the denominations you endorse as"biblical",your of same ol same ol bible worshiping spirit.Jesus did NOT come to die so guys like you could appear"godly"w/a bible.Jesus sat w/sinners and He made it clear how He felt about religious men like you.You seek to Know The Life of Spirit w/a dead book.The Spirit of Truth's Rejected
@randywatchingbush I can only testify to what my family & I saw, heard & experienced at Liberty & fotm & how its NOT from the Father, Son or Holy Spirit. The same testimony we would give before God & in a court of law.
BTW Doug has had about 5 wives so far (means he has divorced at least 4 times) and God HATES divorce. God's ways are in scripture & His spoken word NEVER contradicts His written word.
I dont follow a book of paper & ink but the Messiah & Savior who is King.
Cult Expert ? lol.. pathetic how the religious are always there to attack anything thats not to their liking... you who are "experts" Hear this.Jesus Christ in any Language is The Word of God but you whom color yourselves to be of Him but you dont know Him, You know the bible you Think is Jesus..you call IT The Word The Spirit and The Way when you know Him NOT.Jesus does NOT have to "Line up w/scripture" line up and wait to receive The Gift of The Spirit of Truth before you try to accuse others
1:15 We're supposed to be a group..united as one for Christ. Even after seeing this, I must say that I still have a lot of respect for Doug, the ministry working through him, and will do what I can do be a blessing in such ministry. We might actually have unity if we would stop bickering on stupid points; if we would be in prayer for those who have lost their way and try to love them instead of attacking them! It's not rocket science. If Doug isn't following Christ, THEN PRAY FOR HIM!! xP
@CrazyIntensity We & many others are praying for him, however Doug is still practicing sin & false teaching. So far Doug has had 5 wives & from what my sources tell me, he is working on the next wife.
Also spreading demon blood on ppl is NOT just a stupid point - its satanic & ppl need to know the truth.
@hetgow Wait, what?! As far as I have seen, he's had two wives; 1 that divorced him, 1 that he has now. He's had a few spiritual wives, but that doesn't count. Well, I can't judge that because I've never been to the church of liberty, but I've seen his videos & so far, they've been in tune with the spirit & nature of God. Not sure what the cult expert was talking about the "God would NEVER" video being unbiblical, it seemed pretty sound to me. ..When did he spread demon blood on people??
@CrazyIntensity Nope he has had 4+ (working on the next from what I have heard). I have talked to 3 of his ex-wives & so have many others.
As for the dead demon blood he would spread it on believers so other demons would be afraid of them (the believers). It was described as a type of spiritual camouflage to help protect young believers who were not mature in the lord.
IOW its totally satanic = a false christ that Doug is listening to.
@hetgow where was this dead demon blood mentioned? At what point is the whole wife issue not just gossip? Maybe I'm just in denial. However, I've had some close dealings with the satanic church & can feel when they meet. I was a strong empathist in psionics which IMHO is the scientific version of witchcraft. I've been seeing demons & spirits since I was a child & I haven't seen any on Doug. If he's false & leading people astray, God will get him back for it. I have confidence in that.
@CrazyIntensity I've talked to the ex-wives & the demon blood thing was explained to me & my family on different occasions by Doug & others in fotm. Bad fruit is bad fruit.
@hetgow explain to me exactly what is spiritual marriage and the demon blood thingy? i would lke to know more info from those opposing FOTM and then i will be speaking to them myself.. i am need of a place to live. and i heard they take in people and help them..so any info would be helpful and not gossip or slander actual stuff that happened thanks loads very grateful.
Just go to their website and it is obvious proof of a cult. Look on their home page, there is a donate money to us add. That is one of the main signs they are a cult.
Let the sheep follow their false prophet.You can't open anyone's eyes that doesn't want to see. Only God can do that.
If God isn't working on them there is NOTHING you can do except pray for them.
If they have found what they are looking for in Doug, then God will let them stay there.
I'm sure Doug "thinks" he's doing right, but if he ( or anyone else) was truly seeking God he would find Him. That's how it works. He is seeking something else, attention, power over others, Recognition.
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lol this is funny. you expect me to believe this when your fighting with ppl over the internet. this is disapointing, your suppost to have like what 35 years of experience and yet your fighting with people? 35 years of experience u think youd have a little more respect for people.
society is a cult not for Christ's sake,, fallow no ministry, if its sanctioned , i have to wonder,, society, at least this current one, is dangerous for kids, you would do better to point out that so obvious and proven truth, expert,, there is a term,,, most socialogical experts , or more what i would eqate with a sociopath,, plz attack the control freaks , not thoes seeking wisdom, or the word, or peace , what ever you may be seeking
Lololol, Hetgow thinks you can be CHRITian without being like Christ. Sadly many many people buy into it. It just shows that because Doug doesn't teach something that makes him comfortable and feel fuzzy inside he must try to destroy it. -sigh- Have fun during the tribulation, Hetgow.
TELL US WHERE YOU GET THIS FROM. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY UNLESS YOU GIVE ME EVIDENCE OF WHERE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR (FALSE) ALLEGATIONS FROM. Jezze -_-
@hetgow How do we know you witnessed what you did? I visited your house and I saw that you were a polygamist. I can make a youtube channel and destroy you too. See what I mean?
@hetgow Well obviously that can easily be a false statement. If she has a youtube page... why on earth did she not do this video herself. Why did she use you? O_O things don't add up. It's not because im telling lies, it's because you're confusing me.
@hetgow I looked up the youtube page, and no channel was found. Please repent for your lies and deceptions. Doug hasn't deceived me once. And I have been talking and watching him for a while now. Yet I have been talking to you over a space of around 2 days... and look -_-
@dreamchaser171 Now who is lying? Well its you! I had multiple ppl pm thanking me for providing the youtube page & it loaded up for them & me. Youtube name is "Mannamaribeth"
BTW me & my family lived in Liberty, our house was a way station for fotm & I went on many fotm missions. Since you cant see the deception & continue to make false claims (I never saw you at fotm) I will have to block you.
How many wives has Doug had so far? Are you his next bride?
@hetgow You will block my comments like a little kid. Sorry demonic spirits are making you do these things. But, I'm sure it says in the bible to restrict the FREEDOM God has given us .... RIGHT? JUST SHOWS THE BELIEFS YOU PRACTICE ARE UNBILICAL.
@PleaseLoveJesus BTW Doug from fotm claims that all his wives he has had are a physical manifestation of the bride of Christ. So when his 'wife' gets sick, then the whole of believers are going thru trials & tribulation.
Show me where that is taught by Jesus or any bible writter... short answer = its NOT.
@hetgow BTW Anna from PleaseLoveJesus (ME) Doesn't believe every word people say. Give EVIDENCE where he says this. Give us videos and/or book or something to support your arguments. Come on, this "cult expert" didn't leave a number or an address of her company or office. Or even the place where she obtained her qualification. But, nice fabricated story. Thanks for BLOCKING ME from your channel so I can't reply. Totally something Jesus would do. Have fun in the the tribulation, Hetgow.
@dreamchaser171 So I guess there is a university or special school this lady has to attend then so thats why you dont believe? I guess you wouldnt believe Jesus' disciples then either?
Fact remains the testimony of me & my family stands & we would give it in a court of law & before God.
Also remember that being a witness to a thing is evidence.
@hetgow I suspect you will now Block me from commenting from this channel because the demonic spirit of Cowardness and fear (of the truth or the challenging of your beliefs) and pride is in and around you. I will be praying for you.
@dreamchaser171 No I dont block ppl for that I only block/ban ppl whot go against the truth of God & His word; along w/ those who say me & my family did not see, hear & experience the things we did at fotm.
Amazing how you IGNORE my questions of the heresies of Doug/fotm1 = multiple divorces, marriages, bigamy, stealing he claims his 'god' told him to do. Or the use of dead demon blood, etc.
You say I have a demonic spirit (not), then how much more does Doug & those who support such blasphemy?
I don't answer your questions because you don't give me evidence to show where doug has claimed the things you said he claims. I was in a reallllllly rough part of my life, and Doug pulled me out of it and now I am going strong it the Lord. So how can good come forth from bad?
@dreamchaser171 So just because someone pulled you out of a rough patch that means they have the truth?
Wow thats so wrong & I know because I was in the same place as you!
It was only till Almighty God rescued me & my family from the multiple divorce & marriages of fotm false teaching that I finally saw what Doug was doing - yes lots of good things but a false christ masquerades as the real Jesus who does not command us to sin again & again.
@blazinbudsbitch Thats just it, NONE of my actions make me a christian. Jesus Christ did all the work by dying on the cross for the sins of the world. I only responded to God's by sending Jesus to the world. Once I was faced with the reality of my sin, I responded by repenting & asking for His forgiveness. Its only by the grace of God that I am a christian.
@blazinbudsbitch do a study of the word repent, forgiveness, etc & you will see its really clear that we have to repent & ask forgiveness. Its evident in the OT & NT.
What did Jesus say you had to do to enter the kingdom of heaven? What did Jesus say to those who wanted to follow him? I don't think he said repentance is the sole prerequisite in following him, did he?
@dreamchaser171 Never answers? I have answered lots of questions & you are now making false statements = slander & lies.
BTW I have a life outside of youtube that includes prison ministry, witnessing, family, work, etc, etc that requires a lot more than just sitting all day at a computer. Plz remember that & be patient.
@blazinbudsbitch of course repentance is not the only thing, you have to have your sins forgiven. Sin is the one thing that separates us from God = that was why Jesus died on the cross.
@hetgow So do you think repentance is the soul pre-requisite to enter heaven? How be we get into heaven hetgow?
why do you not answer the simplest of my questions to do with scripture?... yet you know enough scripture to condemn someone else as sinful and a blasphemer.
You just seem pathetic, but thank you because you do nothing but give credibility to Doug Perry
@blazinbudsbitch Gee thats so out in left field its not even funny. Check out needGoddotcom and change your name to something that does not imitate evil.
Jesus said REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND. That's the answer to Blazinbudsbitch's question: what did Jesus say one had to do to enter heaven. Jesus said do nothing else but REPENT because God's Kingdom is near. Repent of what? Sin, and what is sin--transgression of the law of God. So know God's law and if you do break the least of God's commandments, do not be a hypocrite about it. Hypocrites have their place in hell.
@blazinbudsbitch Gee now that I think about it, Jesus, His disciples & the prophets of old didnt have a university degree so according to your logic they are not reliable?
I just dont buy this video, this guy who made the video seems he is full of mens knowledge and not God's. I know doug perry and he has helped me so much with my walk with the Lord, he is a true brother of the Lord, he is not perfect, he makes mistakes, he is human. One thing I realized is this, just as the pharisees hated Jesus and the first century church and how it functioned, is how christians like this guy who made this video are.
@followerofjesusc yea so all the teaching about God telling ppl to divorce & marry others who are still married to another, which is bigamy, is totally against what God & the bible commands. Ask Doug about how many wives he has had so far, or about spreading dead demon blood on other ppl, or how he kills demons when scripture shows demons live forever.
So much wrong & I too was once like you but God rescued me & my family.
@hetgow I know some people don't get figurative language... but I'm sorry you are one of them, Hetgow. I am sorry you feel a need to destroy Charities and ministries where people get saved and delivered. I know Doug is not someone/something of the devil because the bible says you know a tree by it's fruit. Fotm is bearing fruit 100 fold. I'm sorry you don't have a ministry. I'm sorry the spirit of division has attacked your soul. I hope the real Christ delivers you.
@hetgow deamons can be burnt in this realm i do know that, as far as total obliteration,,, not sure that matters enough for you to accuse some one of cult status
To many people listening to voices in their heads if you ask me. I know your not asking but these peolpe are always being told by God and never seem to be in agreement. God spoke to Abraham, of all the people in the world at that time He spoke to Abraham. God spoke to Paul maybe a couple of times but these people they just hear from God about everthing. No wonder the Christian world is so divided. They all hearing from different gods. The proof is in the division.
@Domodeath Yea the problem is its not the same Jesus Christ but a false christ. When Doug's 'god' tells him to marry & divorce multiple times & even marry a woman who was still married to another man (bigamy) then its clear that its NOT the Almighty God, Jesus Christ or Holy Spirit in the bible.
Me & my family & numerous others testify of the same sin, heresy & false prophesies that comes from the 'god' that Doug follows.
This looked like a real debunker until I watched both these guy vids. This fotm makes more sense than hertow does. It looked almost interesting until I had to puke. hergow I think you may need to get a life. Quit spending yer wailfare checks on tatoos' beer and feed yer kids. ya moe-ron. I need to get a life if I waste my time on this stupid crap.
@denzee123 LOL I spent LOTS of time with FOTM and saw all the heresy, sin & false teaching, false prophesies & worse. Just warning others about it.
If doing what God and His word says NOT to do is your idea of 'makes more sense' then there is nothing I can say. All I can do is just give my honest testimony about what me and my family saw, heard & experienced.
@hetgow Can you direct me to Dougs teaching on the multi marriages. also your video does nothing to expose dougs teachings and I am trying to find the decerning evidence. also can you explain that symbol of the diamond and the ring and the thorns. It does look occultic. It also speaks to the initiated if you can explain these things it would be helpful .
@cleanmrbroadway if you watch my other vids that expose FOTM, of which my family & I were members, been to Liberty & even went on 'mission trips' for Doug Perry & Chris Evans, you will see what we experienced. Its false teachings, heresy & sin under the guise of God. The problem is its not the Almighty God of the bible.
@hetgow I assume I saw enough that any moron could see the heresy . Pretty stupid really, kinda like the things they say about Ted Gunderson and the whistle blowers in mind control and the CIA. I cant find the doctrine you speak of when I visit the web site or on youtube so I have to wonder where you are coming from . Please direct me to these guys preaching and teaching what you are saying.
Sorry sir but you use the word heresy pretty loosely. Does inking up your body glorify God? Does your judgment of others as the pharisees did to Jesus glorify God? Any one including myself can look at others and see flaws. We are all flawed. As I look to myself and see many flaws and the words I speak that make our Lord cry tears. We do no good in looking at others dirty underwear. It does not unite Gods children. Yes you are Gods child yes I love you as Jesus does and it makes me cry tears.
@BSmenot So teaching that spreading dead demon blood on ppl is a 'flaw'? Scripture states its false teaching. Same with saying God tells us to divorce & marry multiple times? Again scripture states otherwise & again its not a 'flaw'. Scripture is clear about correcting, rebuke & warning others so they dont get caught up in the same false teaching & sin.
BTW I'm wondering what bible your reading? Because my bible says in 1 John 1:9 that God forgives. So your god doesnt forgive ink?
@hetgow My tells me to say you are a real gun toting bible thumping hypocrite a-hole. And my flesh would really take pleasure in kicking your ass. But my spirit says please, I love you and don't create division with Gods children.
wow so now I guess the scripture about salt water & fresh water coming out of the same spring is not to be has been changed? That part about 'let no course & filthy language come out of your mouth' has been deleted?
BTW its not division to warn ppl about false teaching, matter of fact scripture commands us to rebuke & correct but I guess thats been deleted too. What does sin have in common with righteousness? NOTHING.
Why do you criticize and judge other people saying their work is unbiblical? Sure you are well read in the bible, but so is Satan and even way more so than you. Don't you know we as men (and women) are liars and there is no good in us? That would make you a liar too, and not credible.
@BSmenot So teaching ppl to divorce, abandon their children, marry another woman who was still married at that time (bigamy) is sound doctrine?
Scripture says NO. BTW scripture tells us to warn others about such false teachings.
My testimony is truthful & my family & I would give the same before God and in a court of law. Numerous ex-fotm members have testified of the same things. If you dont believe numerous witnesses, there is nothing I can do.
@hetgow I believe in no man. I follow no man. I believe not in your words or any other mans words. When our Lord speaks he speaks to each of us one on one. All other words are tainted when coming from our flawed selves. You speak of court of law. Please let not the enemy create snares from words. Look to the man. If you chase the words of legality then I can make the bible look like a story from alice in wonderland and debunk it with words. Please don't judge. When I judge, I swiftly see the err
@hetgow Just one other thing, wasn't Jesus condemned for healing on the sabbath. They called him a hypocrite and a heretic also? God gives his children a shield from snares. God accepts heretics and people with incorrect words before he accepts those who are more correct and well read in the bible cause those who are lowly and incorrect who are repentant please Him more. Please excuse if I use my words incorrectly.
@hetgow I really don't know the guy so I cannot say.But misconstrued and misinterpreted meanings are one of our faults.Sure we do this, me and you sir.If someone says hey you are a heretic. Where is your authority? In scripture? In legalism? Satan know the bible more than any of us. Satan can use the bible to condemn you with a blink of an eye Don't be his tool.Jesus took the company of beggars and whores. The judges and pharisees called Him satans tool.If you get anything get understanding
@BSmenot So you dont really know me or the guy whom I testify about and your bad mouth me? Hmmm...
Authority is the 'in context' word of God. If someone preaches that 'god' told him to divorce & marry multiple times, to lie & take things that were not his (stealing) that does NOT line up with scripture. Simple.
Scripture says an elder/deacon (mature man of God) is to be a husband of one wife and not given to sin, false teaching & false prophesies.
@hetgow Thank you brother for warning others about this "ministry" and the leader, who by his life, is very far from the Word of God. It pains me to think about all the hungry people he has duped and led astray. May the Lord bring him to TRUE repentance and restore the marriages Doug has brought destruction to with his false teachings..........
All I have to say is you all have problems... Simply listen to God. Just because one church doesn't teach something and another does doesn't mean its not biblical. You all have your weaknesses. Why don't Christians work together instead of making each other the laughing stock to other religions. Lets set a good example not bicker with in-fighting and confusing the word. Thats Evil working at the core of the churches that causes that. Get rid of it and the fighting. make a good example... Peace!!
@AaL3XaNd3R09 Absolutely and yes. Truly you speak as Jesus would. Thank you. We all make Jesus cry tears. This is not a happy time when I see Gods children creating division amongst ourselves. Your words are received well and I hope they are received by hergow too.
Believe it or not, it was said about JESUS CHRIST, by the Pharasees, that He had a Demon. And then Jesus said that if they said that about Him then His true disciples would be called the same and worse.
May God change me and make me more like my Savior JESUS CHRIST.
Iam curious because the title to your video is deceiving. What or who exactly are you exposing? This video is defending the "cult expert" rather than exposing false teaching. This video is vague. What are the teachings? Details please! Why is "SIN" the issue?
@NNocona Doug/fotm1 claims & teaches that 'god' commanded him to divorce his believing wife, abandon his children, to commit adultery, bigamy & worse ARE sin & we are commanded to NOT continue in sin by scripture.
The part about the cult expert is that Doug misused & twisted what this expert said to try & make it look like fotm was ok when it wasnt. When the expert explained everything, Doug removed his video.
BTW check out "Heresy Warning! Meaning behind FOTM Ring logo & use of demon blood"
@hetgow this is bullcrap, Doug is a good person and this video is making crap up. he never said God commanded Him to commit sin. I have been watching His videos and people are just trying to accuse ministries for doing good works.
@sirchristian12 Nope, no crap; the testimony I and my family give, we would give before God and in a court of law. Funny how there are numerous others who give similar testimonies about fotm, and that all of them state the same sin, heresy, false teaching, false prophesies & worse.
I spent LOTS of time at FOTM, was part of the inside group - taught by Doug himself: I went on 'mission trips', etc, etc. What you see in Doug's vids are whitewash to draw more workers & spiritual wives for Doug.
Of course Fellowship of the Martyrs is a cult. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that teaching people that it is okay to divorce their spouses because "God" told them to do so irrespective of what the Bible says is heresy. It isn't difficult to recognize the cultish behavior of blocking out dissent by disabling responses. Jesus, Paul, Peter, etc. answered the objections of people.
So your homo sexual??? yeah thats real biblical. "It is better for you to have a mill stone tied around your neck"....Theres no reason what so ever that you cant bring up the ill doctrine he claims!!!!!!! And the bible tells us not to argue with anyone. and you coming against a specific person is of satan. thats in Ephisians 6:12 brother. God bless you! I love you! and pray you are truely saved!.....I SEE no fruit thus far!!!!!!! if i see it ill correct myself.
Hmmm... so this must be the 'god' fotm follows that tells them to sin; divorce, adultery, bigamy, steal, etc.
Its clear this is not Almighty God of the bible.
In light of all the false teaching that comes from youtuber mylordyeshua, and the continued lies & false prophesies, I'm going to help you NOT infect real believers with your rants & drivel.
@MyLordYeshua You say they come in in love & truth, but they are following a voice that tells them to divorce their believing wives, not pay child support, break the laws of the land, commit adultery, bigamy, etc.
The truth & fact of God and His word is that HE never tells his children to sin.
Doug preaches "one body" and is against denominations b/c they contradict what God wants. Your slander against Doug is tasteless and most of it are lies. I personally know Doug and he saved my life by showing me a closer relationship with Jesus. I really didn't see any scripture to back up this rant. I would be very careful what you rant or mock, it could be the Holy spirit, and that will put you into serious trouble.
My family and I, along w/ the cult expert will testify in court of law & before God its all true. Testimony of what one saw, heard & experienced does not require scripture.
However I can show Doug's divorce from his believing wife, abandoning his children, then marrying another woman who was still married & claiming 'god' told him to do this (divorce, adultery, bigamy, etc) is totally against scripture.
@hetgow - God is a divorcee of Israel. I've seen Doug's video about his divorce and he clearly repented and weeped. You're out to judge and crucify others despite it being their business between God. You're clearly acting like an anti-christ. I have absolutely no trust for anyone who speaks as a dragon such as yourself, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ. May your poisonous words, malcontent, and propagandist ways fall upon deaf and unwilling ears. May God help you.
@RepentNowOrDie So he claims to have repented but what about the other marriages he has had? What about the other divorces? You see the problem is that he claims the voice he listens to told him to do this. Scripture is VERY clear that God hates divorce & all that other stuff.
God is the same yesterday, today and forever. Never does God tell us to sin & do what HE commanded in His word for us NOT to do. The only possible option is that its a false god.
@RepentNowOrDie BTW in Doug's teaching from his 'god' tells him to torture and kill demons and to spread demon blood on believers.
Where in scripture is this commanded or taught by Jesus and the writers of the bible?
Hmmmm... No where. That should tell you something.
Your rebuke holds no power over me because your not trusting the real Jesus who has been given all power & authority. Believe me, I was in your shoes and it will be bad for you IF you dont repent.
@hetgow - You're not my judge and you do not know me. You're set in your delusion and you will see the power of Jesus's rebuke. I guarantee it. You'll wake up one day with the world crashing in on you and wonder what went wrong. Your tongue is clearly forked and you practice warlock magic in most of your videos. I encourage everyone to study "hypnosis & binaural beats" in video and tell me if you cannot find at least three videos HETGOW has made that use these damning warlock practices.
@RepentNowOrDie Just know that I have talked with numerous EX-FOTM members who eventually saw the deceit, heresy & false prophesies of Doug. If you find yourself in a place where God rescues you from this, send me a PM and we can talk, pray and get you back on the narrow path that leads to salvation.
@hetgow - I would never trust you for anything! Period! You speak like a dragon and use hypnosis and binaural beats in your videos to alter brain waves of people. You don't need hypnosis to teach God's word!!! However you would need it to teach your own ideology and that's what you're doing, or else you would not use it. Stop lying to me and everyone else. Doug has showed me how to be a true Christian and he didn't use hypnosis and binaural beats to do so.
@RepentNowOrDie Ahh the infamous 'speak like a dragon' & your under 'delusion' phrases. Gee haven't you ever wondered why most all the fotm members use the exact same catch phrases? Yea its that cult group speak (BTDT).
As for your claim about using hypnosis, I lots of vids that I did on my own and for Doug & FOTM. Matter of fact his 'god' said my vids were very good. Hmmm... so your going against what 'god' told Doug about my vids? Thats not good.
@RepentNowOrDie BTW RNOD I was ordained by Doug & Chris as a prophet twice at his 'god's' command but the real Jesus rescued me & my family. So I guess that means Doug's 'god' was wrong.
How about the prophesy me & my home would be a way-station for the west coast for years to come? That never came to pass either. Hmmm... another false prophesy.
Or how when Chris was told to marry & divorce 4 times+? Thats not scriptural either.
I'm sorry RNOD but its false teaching & heresy. Test everything.
@hetgow - You know if you were a true child of God, and was concerned about my soul you would try to show me a closer relationship with Jesus instead of preaching the gospel of "Doug is Evil." That's another reason, I know you're a fake. Do you expect people to believe you for saying "Test Everything?" when you're a liar? Your catch slogan does not work on me.
@RepentNowOrDie A true believer warns brethren of false teachers & destructive heresies. Here is my question...
Did you even check the court docs? Did you ask Doug about his wives and how 'god' told him to leave them? Or ask him about the demon blood on believers? Or the prophesies about me, my family, etc.
There are two sides to every coin and if you dont check both, your headed for big trouble (BTDT).
BTW I never said Doug was evil, just a false teacher. Big difference.
@hetgow - I did a criminal background check on Doug before I even spoke to him and it was fine, I asked Doug about every accusation made against him by you and everyone else, even the accusations you speak of. I even asked God if Doug was truthful and he said yes too. Anyone who speaks with God knows if you ask "did Jesus Christ come in the flesh" anything that is not of God will not answer yes. You may not have directly said Doug is evil, but you indirectly did.
@RepentNowOrDie "it was fine"? Now I know for a fact you did not check the Missouri court records because there're docs for non-payment of child support, warrant & arrest for those charges and other stuff.
I'm sorry but your claims & ad hominem attacks are baseless. Of course D is going to give you the run around, but scripture is clear on divorce, adultery, bigamy & spreading demon blood on ppl. What excuse did he give about those? Oh yea, that his 'god' told him.
@RepentNowOrDie BTW you sound exactly like I did when I was deceived by Doug's false 'god' that tells ppl to sin. Of course if you ask the same 'god' he follows, a false christ, it will agree with Doug.
However scripture is clear & you bring up everything but in context scripture.
I can see this discussion is over - I'm praying for you.
@RepentNowOrDie BTW you said I was a liar, where is your proof? Were you present in the discussions w/ me, my family & Doug? No. Were you present during the meetings about the spiritual wives doctrine? No. How about if you did not get repentance poured out by Doug & crew, everything else was false repentance? No.
I problem is your hooked on a fake spiritual experience that goes against scripture many times over. Plz be careful and know I am here to talk if you ever need to.
@hetgow - The proof is in your words. Your intentions are clear to those with open eyes. You can say that I am set in a delusion, and I can say you're set in a delusion. I rebuke the torturing and manipulative spirits inside of you in Jesus Christs name, may God hear my prayers and take the murderous hate for Doug from your heart, and may Jesus's love fill your heart and restore you.
@RepentNowOrDie Unfortunately your going against your own logic - you are supporting someone you do not know. Again check the court records and you wlll see the truth.
@hetgow - I can smell pseudo-profundity anywhere. Where's the proof to back your video up, and why should anyone take your word? You look and sound like a liar to me.
@RepentNowOrDie BTW I know Doug preaches 'one body'; I was ordained by Doug & Chris in FOTM. I was in secret meetings w/ them and saw stuff you cant image like putting dead demon blood on other christians so other demons would be afraid of them = thats lying & no where in scripture are we to use demon blood to protect believers.
Yes Doug teaches 'one body' but what body is that? Its not the body of Jesus who has been given all power & authority.
@RepentNowOrDie The proof is the testimony of me & my family. If that is not enough look at all the other ex-fotm members from around the country & world that testify of the same things - heresy, sexual immorality, multiple divorces, bigamy & worse.
You must watch the videos by Doug's / fotm1 ex-wife Candayo - she gives her testimony and the false god (demon) that Doug obeys is getting worse. If you dont believe in the testimonies of numerous ex-fotm members, I dont know what to say.
@RepentNowOrDie according to my discernment, knowing not either of them. I would lean toward Doug Perry. This other guy hergow seems to have a hard heart. But also in my opinion they are both Gods children.
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." Matthew 19:29
I also recommend you taking these videos down about doug brother. For it is written "that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement". read Galatians 5:14-26 Love you brother keep studying and growing my brother. Dont give up
@MyLordYeshua They are not idle words they are the honest testimony of what me, my wife & daughter experienced. We would give the same testimony in a court of law and before God.
Doug cannot say the same thing & there are court documents to prove his sin, that god told him to divorce, steal, not pay child support, among other things.
BTW bringing up Matt 19:29 as support for divorce, adultery & worse is way out of context.
and i did put it seems, i can't trust anyone and i'm not, fellowship is great but I choose to lean on the lord, so frankly i don't need to listen to anybody but God. I know were all in distress, just lean on the Lord with everything you got, I repent for anything wrong I said brother
@MyLordYeshua Actually Jesus said to judge but not hypocritically. As for repenting, its about repenting from your support of a false teacher & false prophet.
BTW I would appreciate it if you would refrain from swearing.
"Jesus Christ is the Word of God & His sheep are supposed to be hearing His voice. I am NOT telling people to only do what they can find in the Bible. My dad was called by God to be a missionary to Mexico - but nowhere in the Bible does it say, "Bob Perry should go preach in Mexico." No cars, no microwaves, no democratic government, no internet are mentioned in the Bible. This is a dangerous thing you propose - & if you're not careful, it leaves out the Holy Spirit & the VOICE of God."
@MyLordYeshua You present a false argument with your cars, microwaves, etc Their usage is NOT sin. Those things are amoral. However divorcing your believing wife, abandoning your children, committing adultery, bigamy & worse ARE sin & we are commanded to NOT continue in sin.
The biggest problem is Doug claims if 'god' tells you to divorce, steal, commit adultery, etc it is not a sin = heresy!
Yes it is important to listen but we MUST test everything against the whole counsel of God.
ahhhh my god...look alright i was a little harsh. look the matter of the fact is, is that we do love god with all our heart. I don't really know what to say except that WE ALL FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. This is all very heartbreaking for all of us especially because we love god and the moon has turned to blood (the churches are becoming more corrupt). I'm not trying to be mean, were all going to pay on judement day my brother. I cry because only the blood of Christ can save us my brother.
@MyLordYeshua The problem is Doug claims to follow the voice of a 'god' that tells him to sin which NEVER do we see the Almighty God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit do in scripture.
Hence it is a FALSE GOD - one who also gives false teachings & false prophesies.
@MyLordYeshua My family & I dont remember u at the meetings behind closed doors, the heretical teachings explained by Doug; nor were u present when Doug told me, my wife & others his 'god' told him to divorce his believing wife & marry another who was still married; or he was commanded to NOT pay child support (proven by public court docs & much more. He may be leading ppl to christ but its a false christ.
This testimony I give before God & in a court of law, Doug can not say the same.
@hetgow gee MLY why did you remove your comment? Seems you were caught in a lie yes? Claiming to know something where you were not even present to see.
@MyLordYeshua BTW if you can show me lots of verses in the OT & NT where Almighty God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit tells ppl to divorce their believing wife, abandon their children, marry another woman (adultery) who is still married (bigamy) & spread dead demon blood on believers so other demons will be afraid of you then I might reconsider.
However there are NO scriptural support because its all SIN & HERETICAL teachings. Bible states God does NOT tell us to sin.
i had no idea you had something other than safearmsreview going ... i was watching a few of the vids from FOTM and getting some funny feelings ... thanks for the heads-up ... ill pray
i've never seen anything wrong in dougs teaching, he's very humble and always points to god and makes it clear he tries very hard to glorify god and not man including himself and didnt doug apologize for this letter thing?? from what i see here is a hate game on both parties sides i dont see any false teaching here or at fotm
@shit2fly There is no hate just the testimony of me & my family & what we experienced w/ Doug (fotm1) & Chris (rancherforchrist). What you dont see on yt because Doug deleted the vids, is where his (false) 'god' told him to divorce his believing wife, abandon his children, etc (proved by public court docs). He also married a lady who was still married = bigamy & all because 'god' told him to = NOT the Almighty God of the bible!
I give this testimony before God & in a court of law.
@hetgow ooh ok i really wasn't aware of all that..wow it really does sound all wacky now ,, that really is wrong..but don't ya think the rest of his stuff on his page is worthy stuff of keeping up? theyve really been of help to me .. i think he just needs some redirection ..who knows who may be praying evil into his life
@shit2fly Scripture states Doug must repent from the false teaching, false prophesies the continued sin & worse. As of yet, he has rejected ALL rebukes.
Doug & Chris were pretty proud of the numerous times they had been rebuked by Sr pastors, associate pastors
Bible Idolaters are damned already because they Rejected The Spirit of Truth Jesus died to give the world.The king of england gave you a book you could call God and you have been under IT and NOT Jesus for your entire lives but ya cant See it.The Bible has made you Blind and deaf to Jesus Christ because you made it your God! Repent of Biblical priest craft. Ask Jesus for His Gift of The Spirit of Truth or return to the vomit of the bibles you Love to love.Jesus is The Word of God, not the bible.
randywatchingbush 2 weeks ago
@randywatchingbush BTW if continue to make false assumptions about me without even asking me what I believe then I will have to ask you to leave. I dont mind differing opinions but if you persist to say things about me that I do not believe or do, then I will help you to leave.
hetgow 2 weeks ago
Your God is a bible, your way is carnal and your Pride and arrogance R apparent.You think much of yourself and dare to question Dougs work w/many who came out of the cults of the denominations you endorse as"biblical",your of same ol same ol bible worshiping spirit.Jesus did NOT come to die so guys like you could appear"godly"w/a bible.Jesus sat w/sinners and He made it clear how He felt about religious men like you.You seek to Know The Life of Spirit w/a dead book.The Spirit of Truth's Rejected
randywatchingbush 2 weeks ago
@randywatchingbush I can only testify to what my family & I saw, heard & experienced at Liberty & fotm & how its NOT from the Father, Son or Holy Spirit. The same testimony we would give before God & in a court of law.
BTW Doug has had about 5 wives so far (means he has divorced at least 4 times) and God HATES divorce. God's ways are in scripture & His spoken word NEVER contradicts His written word.
I dont follow a book of paper & ink but the Messiah & Savior who is King.
hetgow 2 weeks ago
Cult Expert ? lol.. pathetic how the religious are always there to attack anything thats not to their liking... you who are "experts" Hear this.Jesus Christ in any Language is The Word of God but you whom color yourselves to be of Him but you dont know Him, You know the bible you Think is Jesus..you call IT The Word The Spirit and The Way when you know Him NOT.Jesus does NOT have to "Line up w/scripture" line up and wait to receive The Gift of The Spirit of Truth before you try to accuse others
randywatchingbush 2 weeks ago
@randywatchingbush Ohhhh so now listening to a spirit that tells you steal, divorce, commit adultery, bigamy is of God?
I dont think so - God is the same yesterday, today & forever.
Yea I think I will follow the real Jesus and not a false christ.
:D
hetgow 2 weeks ago
Why does FOTM disable comments on their videos? What are they afraid of? It's a chicken $h!t thing to do.
BlueFJ4X4 1 month ago
1:15 We're supposed to be a group..united as one for Christ. Even after seeing this, I must say that I still have a lot of respect for Doug, the ministry working through him, and will do what I can do be a blessing in such ministry. We might actually have unity if we would stop bickering on stupid points; if we would be in prayer for those who have lost their way and try to love them instead of attacking them! It's not rocket science. If Doug isn't following Christ, THEN PRAY FOR HIM!! xP
CrazyIntensity 1 month ago
@CrazyIntensity We & many others are praying for him, however Doug is still practicing sin & false teaching. So far Doug has had 5 wives & from what my sources tell me, he is working on the next wife.
Also spreading demon blood on ppl is NOT just a stupid point - its satanic & ppl need to know the truth.
:)
hetgow 1 month ago
@hetgow Wait, what?! As far as I have seen, he's had two wives; 1 that divorced him, 1 that he has now. He's had a few spiritual wives, but that doesn't count. Well, I can't judge that because I've never been to the church of liberty, but I've seen his videos & so far, they've been in tune with the spirit & nature of God. Not sure what the cult expert was talking about the "God would NEVER" video being unbiblical, it seemed pretty sound to me. ..When did he spread demon blood on people??
CrazyIntensity 1 month ago
@CrazyIntensity Nope he has had 4+ (working on the next from what I have heard). I have talked to 3 of his ex-wives & so have many others.
As for the dead demon blood he would spread it on believers so other demons would be afraid of them (the believers). It was described as a type of spiritual camouflage to help protect young believers who were not mature in the lord.
IOW its totally satanic = a false christ that Doug is listening to.
Its NOT sound at all when you get there.
hetgow 1 month ago
@hetgow where was this dead demon blood mentioned? At what point is the whole wife issue not just gossip? Maybe I'm just in denial. However, I've had some close dealings with the satanic church & can feel when they meet. I was a strong empathist in psionics which IMHO is the scientific version of witchcraft. I've been seeing demons & spirits since I was a child & I haven't seen any on Doug. If he's false & leading people astray, God will get him back for it. I have confidence in that.
CrazyIntensity 1 month ago
@CrazyIntensity I've talked to the ex-wives & the demon blood thing was explained to me & my family on different occasions by Doug & others in fotm. Bad fruit is bad fruit.
hetgow 3 weeks ago
@hetgow ..I love when people say ...what i heard.....oh i herd....Is that gossip??
Ruckcuz01 3 weeks ago
@Ruckcuz01 Not when a person actually heard & saw what happened as in the case of me & my family.
:)
hetgow 3 weeks ago
@hetgow explain to me exactly what is spiritual marriage and the demon blood thingy? i would lke to know more info from those opposing FOTM and then i will be speaking to them myself.. i am need of a place to live. and i heard they take in people and help them..so any info would be helpful and not gossip or slander actual stuff that happened thanks loads very grateful.
KingdomEliteForces 3 weeks ago
@Ruckcuz01 Not when a person actually heard & saw what happened as in the case of me & my family.
:)
hetgow 3 weeks ago
satan we rebuke and bind u up off the minds of these people right now in the name of jesus
35bugaboo 3 months ago
Just go to their website and it is obvious proof of a cult. Look on their home page, there is a donate money to us add. That is one of the main signs they are a cult.
Spagnotic 3 months ago
@Spagnotic dude since when does donate become a sign of a cult >>LOL... fruit is when you know man ...not donate ..::smh::
KingdomEliteForces 3 weeks ago
Let the sheep follow their false prophet.You can't open anyone's eyes that doesn't want to see. Only God can do that.
If God isn't working on them there is NOTHING you can do except pray for them.
If they have found what they are looking for in Doug, then God will let them stay there.
I'm sure Doug "thinks" he's doing right, but if he ( or anyone else) was truly seeking God he would find Him. That's how it works. He is seeking something else, attention, power over others, Recognition.
supafly1954 5 months ago
ATTENTION EVERYONE!
FOTM1, DOUG PERRY ENDORES, SUPPORTS, PROTECTS, MONICA DENNINGTON'S (TIC TOC MINISTRIES) HERETICAL TEACHING ON GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT HAVING A FEMININE PERSONALITY!
PLZ GO TO FOTM1 VIDEOS AND WATCH "I LOVE TIC TOC MINISTRIES."
DOUG PERRY IS A HERETIC AND HETGOW IS RIGHT!
Progamble 6 months ago
lol this is funny. you expect me to believe this when your fighting with ppl over the internet. this is disapointing, your suppost to have like what 35 years of experience and yet your fighting with people? 35 years of experience u think youd have a little more respect for people.
iconicist 7 months ago 3
@iconicist Yea testifying to what me & my family saw, heard & experienced and comparing the false teachings of Doug/fotm to scripture is wrong.
Oh well at least I can say I warned you.
:)
hetgow 7 months ago
@iconicist Nah they are just geting the messgae out via youtube.
jesussavior1364 2 months ago
society is a cult not for Christ's sake,, fallow no ministry, if its sanctioned , i have to wonder,, society, at least this current one, is dangerous for kids, you would do better to point out that so obvious and proven truth, expert,, there is a term,,, most socialogical experts , or more what i would eqate with a sociopath,, plz attack the control freaks , not thoes seeking wisdom, or the word, or peace , what ever you may be seeking
current political parties are cults,,,
lastchancemst1 7 months ago
@lastchancemst1 Agreed!!! Hollywood is probably the biggest cult ever.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
Lololol, Hetgow thinks you can be CHRITian without being like Christ. Sadly many many people buy into it. It just shows that because Doug doesn't teach something that makes him comfortable and feel fuzzy inside he must try to destroy it. -sigh- Have fun during the tribulation, Hetgow.
PleaseLoveJesus 7 months ago
@PleaseLoveJesus LOL
Yea the parts where Doug claims his god told him to lie, steal, divorce, bigamy & adultery numerous times is ok.
NOT according to scritpure. Sin makes me uncomfortable, however God & His word gives peace because it does NOT tell anyone to sin.
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow Dude, LOOOL
TELL US WHERE YOU GET THIS FROM. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY UNLESS YOU GIVE ME EVIDENCE OF WHERE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR (FALSE) ALLEGATIONS FROM. Jezze -_-
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 witnessing an event is evidence.
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow How do we know you witnessed what you did? I visited your house and I saw that you were a polygamist. I can make a youtube channel and destroy you too. See what I mean?
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 considering that there are numerous other ex-fotm members who are from all around the u.s. & the world who testify of the same things?
Yea that seems to fit more than everyone in the world is wrong (including ALL his ex-wives) but not Doug.
Again I can only testify to what me & my family saw, heard & experienced. The same we would give in a court of law & before God.
If you cant handle that, then I will have to ask you to leave until you show proof otherwise.
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 BTW the lady in question, the cult expert has a youtube page... Mannamaribeth
So now that I have given my evidence & provided more info, I expect an apology &/or for you to ask forgiveness for your false statements.
:)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow Well obviously that can easily be a false statement. If she has a youtube page... why on earth did she not do this video herself. Why did she use you? O_O things don't add up. It's not because im telling lies, it's because you're confusing me.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 Actually she does not know how to make videos so she asked me to do so.
According to your logic is someone does not do the work themselves they are lying - so sad when you take your car to a mechanic, call a plumber, etc.
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow I looked up the youtube page, and no channel was found. Please repent for your lies and deceptions. Doug hasn't deceived me once. And I have been talking and watching him for a while now. Yet I have been talking to you over a space of around 2 days... and look -_-
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 Now who is lying? Well its you! I had multiple ppl pm thanking me for providing the youtube page & it loaded up for them & me. Youtube name is "Mannamaribeth"
BTW me & my family lived in Liberty, our house was a way station for fotm & I went on many fotm missions. Since you cant see the deception & continue to make false claims (I never saw you at fotm) I will have to block you.
How many wives has Doug had so far? Are you his next bride?
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow You will block my comments like a little kid. Sorry demonic spirits are making you do these things. But, I'm sure it says in the bible to restrict the FREEDOM God has given us .... RIGHT? JUST SHOWS THE BELIEFS YOU PRACTICE ARE UNBILICAL.
Thanks for NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION. Gosh -_-
God will take care of you... SOON i hope.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@PleaseLoveJesus BTW Doug from fotm claims that all his wives he has had are a physical manifestation of the bride of Christ. So when his 'wife' gets sick, then the whole of believers are going thru trials & tribulation.
Show me where that is taught by Jesus or any bible writter... short answer = its NOT.
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow BTW Anna from PleaseLoveJesus (ME) Doesn't believe every word people say. Give EVIDENCE where he says this. Give us videos and/or book or something to support your arguments. Come on, this "cult expert" didn't leave a number or an address of her company or office. Or even the place where she obtained her qualification. But, nice fabricated story. Thanks for BLOCKING ME from your channel so I can't reply. Totally something Jesus would do. Have fun in the the tribulation, Hetgow.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 So I guess there is a university or special school this lady has to attend then so thats why you dont believe? I guess you wouldnt believe Jesus' disciples then either?
Fact remains the testimony of me & my family stands & we would give it in a court of law & before God.
Also remember that being a witness to a thing is evidence.
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow Yes you do. Shes an "expert" she needs qualifications for it.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 So I guess Jesus' disciples are disqualified too then?
Your lost in false teaching.
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow I suspect you will now Block me from commenting from this channel because the demonic spirit of Cowardness and fear (of the truth or the challenging of your beliefs) and pride is in and around you. I will be praying for you.
God speed
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 No I dont block ppl for that I only block/ban ppl whot go against the truth of God & His word; along w/ those who say me & my family did not see, hear & experience the things we did at fotm.
Amazing how you IGNORE my questions of the heresies of Doug/fotm1 = multiple divorces, marriages, bigamy, stealing he claims his 'god' told him to do. Or the use of dead demon blood, etc.
You say I have a demonic spirit (not), then how much more does Doug & those who support such blasphemy?
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow So the truth is your interpretation of the bible -_- and the bible has soo many interpretations. You're obviously a cut and paster.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 LOL at least I dont claim that god told me to marry, divorce, committ adultery & bigamy as part of his will.
;)
BYE
hetgow 7 months ago
I don't answer your questions because you don't give me evidence to show where doug has claimed the things you said he claims. I was in a reallllllly rough part of my life, and Doug pulled me out of it and now I am going strong it the Lord. So how can good come forth from bad?
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 So just because someone pulled you out of a rough patch that means they have the truth?
Wow thats so wrong & I know because I was in the same place as you!
It was only till Almighty God rescued me & my family from the multiple divorce & marriages of fotm false teaching that I finally saw what Doug was doing - yes lots of good things but a false christ masquerades as the real Jesus who does not command us to sin again & again.
I'm praying for you.
:)
hetgow 7 months ago
What would you say are some of your best actions that make you a Christian Hetgow?
blazinbudsbitch 7 months ago
@blazinbudsbitch Thats just it, NONE of my actions make me a christian. Jesus Christ did all the work by dying on the cross for the sins of the world. I only responded to God's by sending Jesus to the world. Once I was faced with the reality of my sin, I responded by repenting & asking for His forgiveness. Its only by the grace of God that I am a christian.
:)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow Dosn't being Christian mean that you are "christ-like"?
When did Jesus say that all you need to do to be like him is repent and ask for forgiveness?
blazinbudsbitch 7 months ago
@blazinbudsbitch do a study of the word repent, forgiveness, etc & you will see its really clear that we have to repent & ask forgiveness. Its evident in the OT & NT.
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow That's not what I'm asking.
What did Jesus say you had to do to enter the kingdom of heaven? What did Jesus say to those who wanted to follow him? I don't think he said repentance is the sole prerequisite in following him, did he?
blazinbudsbitch 7 months ago
@blazinbudsbitch I know!! He never answers questions because he Neverrr has answers to them.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@dreamchaser171 Never answers? I have answered lots of questions & you are now making false statements = slander & lies.
BTW I have a life outside of youtube that includes prison ministry, witnessing, family, work, etc, etc that requires a lot more than just sitting all day at a computer. Plz remember that & be patient.
:)
hetgow 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hetgow When I said never answers, I meant you never answer my actual questions. You post a reply, but not an answer.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
@blazinbudsbitch of course repentance is not the only thing, you have to have your sins forgiven. Sin is the one thing that separates us from God = that was why Jesus died on the cross.
:)
hetgow 7 months ago
@blazinbudsbitch Well I can act like Christ (christ like) all day long but if my sins are not forgiven, it does no good.
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
@hetgow So do you think repentance is the soul pre-requisite to enter heaven? How be we get into heaven hetgow?
why do you not answer the simplest of my questions to do with scripture?... yet you know enough scripture to condemn someone else as sinful and a blasphemer.
You just seem pathetic, but thank you because you do nothing but give credibility to Doug Perry
blazinbudsbitch 7 months ago
@blazinbudsbitch Gee thats so out in left field its not even funny. Check out needGoddotcom and change your name to something that does not imitate evil.
:)
BYE
hetgow 7 months ago
Jesus said REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND. That's the answer to Blazinbudsbitch's question: what did Jesus say one had to do to enter heaven. Jesus said do nothing else but REPENT because God's Kingdom is near. Repent of what? Sin, and what is sin--transgression of the law of God. So know God's law and if you do break the least of God's commandments, do not be a hypocrite about it. Hypocrites have their place in hell.
staywithtruth 6 months ago
What kind of cult expert was this? Did she have a university degree?
blazinbudsbitch 7 months ago 4
@blazinbudsbitch Gee now that I think about it, Jesus, His disciples & the prophets of old didnt have a university degree so according to your logic they are not reliable?
Too bad
;)
hetgow 7 months ago
my husband (2:41)???
GodChild1990 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
FOTM is not a cult it is a fellowship. Lets see the evidence for your claims? I think your a false prophet.
castersen13 10 months ago
@castersen13 Exactly! Me too! Fotm doesn't require anything from us. Just a friendly fellowship.
dreamchaser171 7 months ago
Yep they do over and over :(
meli1shi 10 months ago
I just dont buy this video, this guy who made the video seems he is full of mens knowledge and not God's. I know doug perry and he has helped me so much with my walk with the Lord, he is a true brother of the Lord, he is not perfect, he makes mistakes, he is human. One thing I realized is this, just as the pharisees hated Jesus and the first century church and how it functioned, is how christians like this guy who made this video are.
followerofjesusc 11 months ago
@followerofjesusc yea so all the teaching about God telling ppl to divorce & marry others who are still married to another, which is bigamy, is totally against what God & the bible commands. Ask Doug about how many wives he has had so far, or about spreading dead demon blood on other ppl, or how he kills demons when scripture shows demons live forever.
So much wrong & I too was once like you but God rescued me & my family.
hetgow 11 months ago
@hetgow I know some people don't get figurative language... but I'm sorry you are one of them, Hetgow. I am sorry you feel a need to destroy Charities and ministries where people get saved and delivered. I know Doug is not someone/something of the devil because the bible says you know a tree by it's fruit. Fotm is bearing fruit 100 fold. I'm sorry you don't have a ministry. I'm sorry the spirit of division has attacked your soul. I hope the real Christ delivers you.
PleaseLoveJesus 7 months ago
@hetgow deamons can be burnt in this realm i do know that, as far as total obliteration,,, not sure that matters enough for you to accuse some one of cult status
lastchancemst1 7 months ago
Warnig FOTM is BAD news !
Made worse because they really believe their own lies
That's why they seem so convinceing
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 7:15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
another good vid' Chris'
Loonypics 1 year ago
To many people listening to voices in their heads if you ask me. I know your not asking but these peolpe are always being told by God and never seem to be in agreement. God spoke to Abraham, of all the people in the world at that time He spoke to Abraham. God spoke to Paul maybe a couple of times but these people they just hear from God about everthing. No wonder the Christian world is so divided. They all hearing from different gods. The proof is in the division.
cleanmrbroadway 1 year ago
Who is the "cult expert"?
DeniseMatteau 1 year ago
um...guys... he said in his video not to go at less GOD himself tells you to go... I can send you the video if you are willing to see it...
Domodeath 1 year ago
@Domodeath Yea the problem is its not the same Jesus Christ but a false christ. When Doug's 'god' tells him to marry & divorce multiple times & even marry a woman who was still married to another man (bigamy) then its clear that its NOT the Almighty God, Jesus Christ or Holy Spirit in the bible.
Me & my family & numerous others testify of the same sin, heresy & false prophesies that comes from the 'god' that Doug follows.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow How me, then where YEHWAH says any of his actions are wrong
Domodeath 1 year ago
This looked like a real debunker until I watched both these guy vids. This fotm makes more sense than hertow does. It looked almost interesting until I had to puke. hergow I think you may need to get a life. Quit spending yer wailfare checks on tatoos' beer and feed yer kids. ya moe-ron. I need to get a life if I waste my time on this stupid crap.
denzee123 1 year ago
@denzee123 LOL I spent LOTS of time with FOTM and saw all the heresy, sin & false teaching, false prophesies & worse. Just warning others about it.
If doing what God and His word says NOT to do is your idea of 'makes more sense' then there is nothing I can say. All I can do is just give my honest testimony about what me and my family saw, heard & experienced.
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow Can you direct me to Dougs teaching on the multi marriages. also your video does nothing to expose dougs teachings and I am trying to find the decerning evidence. also can you explain that symbol of the diamond and the ring and the thorns. It does look occultic. It also speaks to the initiated if you can explain these things it would be helpful .
cleanmrbroadway 1 year ago
@cleanmrbroadway if you watch my other vids that expose FOTM, of which my family & I were members, been to Liberty & even went on 'mission trips' for Doug Perry & Chris Evans, you will see what we experienced. Its false teachings, heresy & sin under the guise of God. The problem is its not the Almighty God of the bible.
:)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow I assume I saw enough that any moron could see the heresy . Pretty stupid really, kinda like the things they say about Ted Gunderson and the whistle blowers in mind control and the CIA. I cant find the doctrine you speak of when I visit the web site or on youtube so I have to wonder where you are coming from . Please direct me to these guys preaching and teaching what you are saying.
cleanmrbroadway 1 year ago
Sorry sir but you use the word heresy pretty loosely. Does inking up your body glorify God? Does your judgment of others as the pharisees did to Jesus glorify God? Any one including myself can look at others and see flaws. We are all flawed. As I look to myself and see many flaws and the words I speak that make our Lord cry tears. We do no good in looking at others dirty underwear. It does not unite Gods children. Yes you are Gods child yes I love you as Jesus does and it makes me cry tears.
BSmenot 1 year ago
@BSmenot So teaching that spreading dead demon blood on ppl is a 'flaw'? Scripture states its false teaching. Same with saying God tells us to divorce & marry multiple times? Again scripture states otherwise & again its not a 'flaw'. Scripture is clear about correcting, rebuke & warning others so they dont get caught up in the same false teaching & sin.
BTW I'm wondering what bible your reading? Because my bible says in 1 John 1:9 that God forgives. So your god doesnt forgive ink?
Hmmm...
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow My tells me to say you are a real gun toting bible thumping hypocrite a-hole. And my flesh would really take pleasure in kicking your ass. But my spirit says please, I love you and don't create division with Gods children.
BSmenot 1 year ago
@BSmenot 'a-hole'?
wow so now I guess the scripture about salt water & fresh water coming out of the same spring is not to be has been changed? That part about 'let no course & filthy language come out of your mouth' has been deleted?
BTW its not division to warn ppl about false teaching, matter of fact scripture commands us to rebuke & correct but I guess thats been deleted too. What does sin have in common with righteousness? NOTHING.
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow I think you better argue with yer old lady. I don't have time. This has degraded to nonsense. Much like yer hypocrisy.
BSmenot 1 year ago
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denzee123 1 year ago
@BSmenot BTW I noticed you refused to answer my questions & instead resorted to attacking, swearing, etc.
Scripture states... "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks"
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
Why do you criticize and judge other people saying their work is unbiblical? Sure you are well read in the bible, but so is Satan and even way more so than you. Don't you know we as men (and women) are liars and there is no good in us? That would make you a liar too, and not credible.
BSmenot 1 year ago
@BSmenot So teaching ppl to divorce, abandon their children, marry another woman who was still married at that time (bigamy) is sound doctrine?
Scripture says NO. BTW scripture tells us to warn others about such false teachings.
My testimony is truthful & my family & I would give the same before God and in a court of law. Numerous ex-fotm members have testified of the same things. If you dont believe numerous witnesses, there is nothing I can do.
:)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow I believe in no man. I follow no man. I believe not in your words or any other mans words. When our Lord speaks he speaks to each of us one on one. All other words are tainted when coming from our flawed selves. You speak of court of law. Please let not the enemy create snares from words. Look to the man. If you chase the words of legality then I can make the bible look like a story from alice in wonderland and debunk it with words. Please don't judge. When I judge, I swiftly see the err
BSmenot 1 year ago
@hetgow Just one other thing, wasn't Jesus condemned for healing on the sabbath. They called him a hypocrite and a heretic also? God gives his children a shield from snares. God accepts heretics and people with incorrect words before he accepts those who are more correct and well read in the bible cause those who are lowly and incorrect who are repentant please Him more. Please excuse if I use my words incorrectly.
BSmenot 1 year ago
@hetgow I really don't know the guy so I cannot say.But misconstrued and misinterpreted meanings are one of our faults.Sure we do this, me and you sir.If someone says hey you are a heretic. Where is your authority? In scripture? In legalism? Satan know the bible more than any of us. Satan can use the bible to condemn you with a blink of an eye Don't be his tool.Jesus took the company of beggars and whores. The judges and pharisees called Him satans tool.If you get anything get understanding
BSmenot 1 year ago
@BSmenot So you dont really know me or the guy whom I testify about and your bad mouth me? Hmmm...
Authority is the 'in context' word of God. If someone preaches that 'god' told him to divorce & marry multiple times, to lie & take things that were not his (stealing) that does NOT line up with scripture. Simple.
Scripture says an elder/deacon (mature man of God) is to be a husband of one wife and not given to sin, false teaching & false prophesies.
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow Thank you brother for warning others about this "ministry" and the leader, who by his life, is very far from the Word of God. It pains me to think about all the hungry people he has duped and led astray. May the Lord bring him to TRUE repentance and restore the marriages Doug has brought destruction to with his false teachings..........
lastblast7 1 year ago
All I have to say is you all have problems... Simply listen to God. Just because one church doesn't teach something and another does doesn't mean its not biblical. You all have your weaknesses. Why don't Christians work together instead of making each other the laughing stock to other religions. Lets set a good example not bicker with in-fighting and confusing the word. Thats Evil working at the core of the churches that causes that. Get rid of it and the fighting. make a good example... Peace!!
AaL3XaNd3R09 1 year ago
@AaL3XaNd3R09 Absolutely and yes. Truly you speak as Jesus would. Thank you. We all make Jesus cry tears. This is not a happy time when I see Gods children creating division amongst ourselves. Your words are received well and I hope they are received by hergow too.
BSmenot 1 year ago
Believe it or not, it was said about JESUS CHRIST, by the Pharasees, that He had a Demon. And then Jesus said that if they said that about Him then His true disciples would be called the same and worse.
May God change me and make me more like my Savior JESUS CHRIST.
hayajedid28 1 year ago
Well said, DOUG PERRY IS A DANGEROUS CULT LEADER.
ChristianIsraeli 1 year ago 2
Iam curious because the title to your video is deceiving. What or who exactly are you exposing? This video is defending the "cult expert" rather than exposing false teaching. This video is vague. What are the teachings? Details please! Why is "SIN" the issue?
NNocona 1 year ago
@NNocona Doug/fotm1 claims & teaches that 'god' commanded him to divorce his believing wife, abandon his children, to commit adultery, bigamy & worse ARE sin & we are commanded to NOT continue in sin by scripture.
The part about the cult expert is that Doug misused & twisted what this expert said to try & make it look like fotm was ok when it wasnt. When the expert explained everything, Doug removed his video.
BTW check out "Heresy Warning! Meaning behind FOTM Ring logo & use of demon blood"
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow this is bullcrap, Doug is a good person and this video is making crap up. he never said God commanded Him to commit sin. I have been watching His videos and people are just trying to accuse ministries for doing good works.
sirchristian12 1 year ago
@sirchristian12 Nope, no crap; the testimony I and my family give, we would give before God and in a court of law. Funny how there are numerous others who give similar testimonies about fotm, and that all of them state the same sin, heresy, false teaching, false prophesies & worse.
I spent LOTS of time at FOTM, was part of the inside group - taught by Doug himself: I went on 'mission trips', etc, etc. What you see in Doug's vids are whitewash to draw more workers & spiritual wives for Doug.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow So he is bad? lol it's been while since I commented
sirchristian12 1 year ago
Of course Fellowship of the Martyrs is a cult. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that teaching people that it is okay to divorce their spouses because "God" told them to do so irrespective of what the Bible says is heresy. It isn't difficult to recognize the cultish behavior of blocking out dissent by disabling responses. Jesus, Paul, Peter, etc. answered the objections of people.
LouZerrMan 1 year ago
So your homo sexual??? yeah thats real biblical. "It is better for you to have a mill stone tied around your neck"....Theres no reason what so ever that you cant bring up the ill doctrine he claims!!!!!!! And the bible tells us not to argue with anyone. and you coming against a specific person is of satan. thats in Ephisians 6:12 brother. God bless you! I love you! and pray you are truely saved!.....I SEE no fruit thus far!!!!!!! if i see it ill correct myself.
yokedox 1 year ago
I love you brother and i hope the best for you
MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
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MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua 'stop looking at their sin'
Hmmm... so this must be the 'god' fotm follows that tells them to sin; divorce, adultery, bigamy, steal, etc.
Its clear this is not Almighty God of the bible.
In light of all the false teaching that comes from youtuber mylordyeshua, and the continued lies & false prophesies, I'm going to help you NOT infect real believers with your rants & drivel.
BYE
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
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MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua You say they come in in love & truth, but they are following a voice that tells them to divorce their believing wives, not pay child support, break the laws of the land, commit adultery, bigamy, etc.
The truth & fact of God and His word is that HE never tells his children to sin.
BYE
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow Hey Steve! this almost sounds like rancherforsatan trying to be a prophet..hehehe
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MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua Scripture says he who does not provide for his family is worse than an ubeliever.
In light of the fotm 'god' that commands them to NOT provide is clearly a false god, a false christ & deceptive spirit.
The Lord rebuke you!
BYE
hetgow 1 year ago
Doug preaches "one body" and is against denominations b/c they contradict what God wants. Your slander against Doug is tasteless and most of it are lies. I personally know Doug and he saved my life by showing me a closer relationship with Jesus. I really didn't see any scripture to back up this rant. I would be very careful what you rant or mock, it could be the Holy spirit, and that will put you into serious trouble.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie Actually none of it is false testimony.
My family and I, along w/ the cult expert will testify in court of law & before God its all true. Testimony of what one saw, heard & experienced does not require scripture.
However I can show Doug's divorce from his believing wife, abandoning his children, then marrying another woman who was still married & claiming 'god' told him to do this (divorce, adultery, bigamy, etc) is totally against scripture.
Test everything
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - It's not testimony to me until you have proof. It's just words from someone I don't know that could be making up lies from the pit of Hell.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie Ok, check the court documents on Doug's divorce, his abandoning of his children, non-payment of child support & arrest for the same.
His ex-wife and children will tell you truth of the matter too. Even Doug will tell you his 'god' told him to divorce his wife & leave his children.
Scripture is clear that GOD HATES DIVORCE & the one who abandons his family is worse than an unbeliever.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - God is a divorcee of Israel. I've seen Doug's video about his divorce and he clearly repented and weeped. You're out to judge and crucify others despite it being their business between God. You're clearly acting like an anti-christ. I have absolutely no trust for anyone who speaks as a dragon such as yourself, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ. May your poisonous words, malcontent, and propagandist ways fall upon deaf and unwilling ears. May God help you.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie So he claims to have repented but what about the other marriages he has had? What about the other divorces? You see the problem is that he claims the voice he listens to told him to do this. Scripture is VERY clear that God hates divorce & all that other stuff.
God is the same yesterday, today and forever. Never does God tell us to sin & do what HE commanded in His word for us NOT to do. The only possible option is that its a false god.
BTW did you check the court records?
hetgow 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie BTW in Doug's teaching from his 'god' tells him to torture and kill demons and to spread demon blood on believers.
Where in scripture is this commanded or taught by Jesus and the writers of the bible?
Hmmmm... No where. That should tell you something.
Your rebuke holds no power over me because your not trusting the real Jesus who has been given all power & authority. Believe me, I was in your shoes and it will be bad for you IF you dont repent.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - You're not my judge and you do not know me. You're set in your delusion and you will see the power of Jesus's rebuke. I guarantee it. You'll wake up one day with the world crashing in on you and wonder what went wrong. Your tongue is clearly forked and you practice warlock magic in most of your videos. I encourage everyone to study "hypnosis & binaural beats" in video and tell me if you cannot find at least three videos HETGOW has made that use these damning warlock practices.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie Just know that I have talked with numerous EX-FOTM members who eventually saw the deceit, heresy & false prophesies of Doug. If you find yourself in a place where God rescues you from this, send me a PM and we can talk, pray and get you back on the narrow path that leads to salvation.
:D
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - I would never trust you for anything! Period! You speak like a dragon and use hypnosis and binaural beats in your videos to alter brain waves of people. You don't need hypnosis to teach God's word!!! However you would need it to teach your own ideology and that's what you're doing, or else you would not use it. Stop lying to me and everyone else. Doug has showed me how to be a true Christian and he didn't use hypnosis and binaural beats to do so.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie Ahh the infamous 'speak like a dragon' & your under 'delusion' phrases. Gee haven't you ever wondered why most all the fotm members use the exact same catch phrases? Yea its that cult group speak (BTDT).
As for your claim about using hypnosis, I lots of vids that I did on my own and for Doug & FOTM. Matter of fact his 'god' said my vids were very good. Hmmm... so your going against what 'god' told Doug about my vids? Thats not good.
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie BTW RNOD I was ordained by Doug & Chris as a prophet twice at his 'god's' command but the real Jesus rescued me & my family. So I guess that means Doug's 'god' was wrong.
How about the prophesy me & my home would be a way-station for the west coast for years to come? That never came to pass either. Hmmm... another false prophesy.
Or how when Chris was told to marry & divorce 4 times+? Thats not scriptural either.
I'm sorry RNOD but its false teaching & heresy. Test everything.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - You know if you were a true child of God, and was concerned about my soul you would try to show me a closer relationship with Jesus instead of preaching the gospel of "Doug is Evil." That's another reason, I know you're a fake. Do you expect people to believe you for saying "Test Everything?" when you're a liar? Your catch slogan does not work on me.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie A true believer warns brethren of false teachers & destructive heresies. Here is my question...
Did you even check the court docs? Did you ask Doug about his wives and how 'god' told him to leave them? Or ask him about the demon blood on believers? Or the prophesies about me, my family, etc.
There are two sides to every coin and if you dont check both, your headed for big trouble (BTDT).
BTW I never said Doug was evil, just a false teacher. Big difference.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - I did a criminal background check on Doug before I even spoke to him and it was fine, I asked Doug about every accusation made against him by you and everyone else, even the accusations you speak of. I even asked God if Doug was truthful and he said yes too. Anyone who speaks with God knows if you ask "did Jesus Christ come in the flesh" anything that is not of God will not answer yes. You may not have directly said Doug is evil, but you indirectly did.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie "it was fine"? Now I know for a fact you did not check the Missouri court records because there're docs for non-payment of child support, warrant & arrest for those charges and other stuff.
I'm sorry but your claims & ad hominem attacks are baseless. Of course D is going to give you the run around, but scripture is clear on divorce, adultery, bigamy & spreading demon blood on ppl. What excuse did he give about those? Oh yea, that his 'god' told him.
I pray God rescues you.
hetgow 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie BTW you sound exactly like I did when I was deceived by Doug's false 'god' that tells ppl to sin. Of course if you ask the same 'god' he follows, a false christ, it will agree with Doug.
However scripture is clear & you bring up everything but in context scripture.
I can see this discussion is over - I'm praying for you.
Bye
hetgow 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie BTW you said I was a liar, where is your proof? Were you present in the discussions w/ me, my family & Doug? No. Were you present during the meetings about the spiritual wives doctrine? No. How about if you did not get repentance poured out by Doug & crew, everything else was false repentance? No.
I problem is your hooked on a fake spiritual experience that goes against scripture many times over. Plz be careful and know I am here to talk if you ever need to.
:)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - The proof is in your words. Your intentions are clear to those with open eyes. You can say that I am set in a delusion, and I can say you're set in a delusion. I rebuke the torturing and manipulative spirits inside of you in Jesus Christs name, may God hear my prayers and take the murderous hate for Doug from your heart, and may Jesus's love fill your heart and restore you.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie Unfortunately your going against your own logic - you are supporting someone you do not know. Again check the court records and you wlll see the truth.
:)
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - I can smell pseudo-profundity anywhere. Where's the proof to back your video up, and why should anyone take your word? You look and sound like a liar to me.
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie BTW I know Doug preaches 'one body'; I was ordained by Doug & Chris in FOTM. I was in secret meetings w/ them and saw stuff you cant image like putting dead demon blood on other christians so other demons would be afraid of them = thats lying & no where in scripture are we to use demon blood to protect believers.
Yes Doug teaches 'one body' but what body is that? Its not the body of Jesus who has been given all power & authority.
Plz test everything - I pray God rescues you.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow - Give me proof of you accusations. If you cannot give me proof than it is of no truth to me. Where is the proof?
RepentNowOrDie 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie The proof is the testimony of me & my family. If that is not enough look at all the other ex-fotm members from around the country & world that testify of the same things - heresy, sexual immorality, multiple divorces, bigamy & worse.
You must watch the videos by Doug's / fotm1 ex-wife Candayo - she gives her testimony and the false god (demon) that Doug obeys is getting worse. If you dont believe in the testimonies of numerous ex-fotm members, I dont know what to say.
:)
hetgow 1 year ago
@RepentNowOrDie according to my discernment, knowing not either of them. I would lean toward Doug Perry. This other guy hergow seems to have a hard heart. But also in my opinion they are both Gods children.
BSmenot 1 year ago
matthew 19:1-12
seek and ye shall find my brother
MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." Matthew 19:29
I also recommend you taking these videos down about doug brother. For it is written "that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement". read Galatians 5:14-26 Love you brother keep studying and growing my brother. Dont give up
MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua They are not idle words they are the honest testimony of what me, my wife & daughter experienced. We would give the same testimony in a court of law and before God.
Doug cannot say the same thing & there are court documents to prove his sin, that god told him to divorce, steal, not pay child support, among other things.
BTW bringing up Matt 19:29 as support for divorce, adultery & worse is way out of context.
hetgow 1 year ago
and i did put it seems, i can't trust anyone and i'm not, fellowship is great but I choose to lean on the lord, so frankly i don't need to listen to anybody but God. I know were all in distress, just lean on the Lord with everything you got, I repent for anything wrong I said brother
MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
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MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua Actually Jesus said to judge but not hypocritically. As for repenting, its about repenting from your support of a false teacher & false prophet.
BTW I would appreciate it if you would refrain from swearing.
Thanks
hetgow 1 year ago
"Jesus Christ is the Word of God & His sheep are supposed to be hearing His voice. I am NOT telling people to only do what they can find in the Bible. My dad was called by God to be a missionary to Mexico - but nowhere in the Bible does it say, "Bob Perry should go preach in Mexico." No cars, no microwaves, no democratic government, no internet are mentioned in the Bible. This is a dangerous thing you propose - & if you're not careful, it leaves out the Holy Spirit & the VOICE of God."
MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua You present a false argument with your cars, microwaves, etc Their usage is NOT sin. Those things are amoral. However divorcing your believing wife, abandoning your children, committing adultery, bigamy & worse ARE sin & we are commanded to NOT continue in sin.
The biggest problem is Doug claims if 'god' tells you to divorce, steal, commit adultery, etc it is not a sin = heresy!
Yes it is important to listen but we MUST test everything against the whole counsel of God.
:)
hetgow 1 year ago
ahhhh my god...look alright i was a little harsh. look the matter of the fact is, is that we do love god with all our heart. I don't really know what to say except that WE ALL FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. This is all very heartbreaking for all of us especially because we love god and the moon has turned to blood (the churches are becoming more corrupt). I'm not trying to be mean, were all going to pay on judement day my brother. I cry because only the blood of Christ can save us my brother.
MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua The problem is Doug claims to follow the voice of a 'god' that tells him to sin which NEVER do we see the Almighty God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit do in scripture.
Hence it is a FALSE GOD - one who also gives false teachings & false prophesies.
:)
hetgow 1 year ago
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MyLordYeshua 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua My family & I dont remember u at the meetings behind closed doors, the heretical teachings explained by Doug; nor were u present when Doug told me, my wife & others his 'god' told him to divorce his believing wife & marry another who was still married; or he was commanded to NOT pay child support (proven by public court docs & much more. He may be leading ppl to christ but its a false christ.
This testimony I give before God & in a court of law, Doug can not say the same.
Repent.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow gee MLY why did you remove your comment? Seems you were caught in a lie yes? Claiming to know something where you were not even present to see.
Hmmm....
No wonder you removed your comment.
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
@MyLordYeshua BTW if you can show me lots of verses in the OT & NT where Almighty God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit tells ppl to divorce their believing wife, abandon their children, marry another woman (adultery) who is still married (bigamy) & spread dead demon blood on believers so other demons will be afraid of you then I might reconsider.
However there are NO scriptural support because its all SIN & HERETICAL teachings. Bible states God does NOT tell us to sin.
Plz repent b4 its too late.
hetgow 1 year ago
i had no idea you had something other than safearmsreview going ... i was watching a few of the vids from FOTM and getting some funny feelings ... thanks for the heads-up ... ill pray
TellEvery1 1 year ago
ooh well.. i really hope this works out..i wouldn't like to see him go down this way.
shit2fly 1 year ago
i've never seen anything wrong in dougs teaching, he's very humble and always points to god and makes it clear he tries very hard to glorify god and not man including himself and didnt doug apologize for this letter thing?? from what i see here is a hate game on both parties sides i dont see any false teaching here or at fotm
shit2fly 1 year ago
@shit2fly There is no hate just the testimony of me & my family & what we experienced w/ Doug (fotm1) & Chris (rancherforchrist). What you dont see on yt because Doug deleted the vids, is where his (false) 'god' told him to divorce his believing wife, abandon his children, etc (proved by public court docs). He also married a lady who was still married = bigamy & all because 'god' told him to = NOT the Almighty God of the bible!
I give this testimony before God & in a court of law.
hetgow 1 year ago
@hetgow ooh ok i really wasn't aware of all that..wow it really does sound all wacky now ,, that really is wrong..but don't ya think the rest of his stuff on his page is worthy stuff of keeping up? theyve really been of help to me .. i think he just needs some redirection ..who knows who may be praying evil into his life
shit2fly 1 year ago
@shit2fly Scripture states Doug must repent from the false teaching, false prophesies the continued sin & worse. As of yet, he has rejected ALL rebukes.
Doug & Chris were pretty proud of the numerous times they had been rebuked by Sr pastors, associate pastors