It's a wonder anyone gets caught doing anything illegal in this part of England. These cops were unbelievably inept, and Leslie paid the price. If this weren't such a tragic event it would be worthy of a comic strip.
What a tragic event! What a lot of police blunders! The British have the tenderest hearts on earth (you can see from their horrid reaction to violence -- I know, having lived amongst them for 3 years), but it's too bad that all this had to happen.
There was another member of the public who helped to overpower Neilson called Keith Wood who has sadly died,he had studied karate and delivered a karate chop to Neilson's neck to subdue him,both He and Roy Morris were given a reward by the Post Office .Tony White & Stuart Mckenzie were given the Queens Gallantry Medal,Wally Boreham has also died since this documentary was made
@ad8369 He left her alive. I don't recommend anyone not eat for around 80 hours but anyone experimenting would find they lost very little weight. When Len Rudd, who had known her all her life, heard the final ransom tape and he was the only person who did because police recording equipment malfunctioned he said she sounded calm with no signs of nervousness. And you're saying that was after 70 hours without food? The truth is he did feed her when he was there and she died alone much later.
@sianchild You are right to be impressed by the chip shop guy. Roy Morris was a true hero. The police would have alighted upon Neilson's name and address through his driving license application within six weeks even if he had escaped from them that night but if they had arrived at his house he would have tried to shoot his way out with the arsenal of ammunition he had in his attic room . Who knows how many he would have killed? Roy Morris's actions prevented a potential bloodbath.
Neilson's own fears and phobias caused him to panic and flee. This was the first time he had been in direct contact with a police operation - previously he had always been long gone by the time they arrived. He was sure the police were closing in on him and felt he was in the ever tightening vice of a police trap. He imagined he heard dogs barking and a helicopter overhead and believing the police were right behind him dropped everything apart from his shotgun and ran for his life.
Lesley weighed only 98lbs when found. Her stomach and intestines were completely empty and she had not eaten for a considerable time. She had lost a lot of weight and was emaciated. IN THREE DAYS? Even if Neilson had not fed her there would not have been time for that deterioration - one only has to remember how long the Ulster hunger strikers lasted in the 80s. Neilson left Lesley alive. He panicked and fled without going back down the shaft. Lesley was alive for several days afterwards.
@Bodaniel7 well you can go only three days without water, before dying. Not a pleasent death, but hopefully for lesley, she was most of the time unconsious. That can happen when you're without flouds.
@girl92love She wasn't without fluids. She had a half bottle of brandy - found in the shaft - and drinking water. We know this because Neilson caught out his own lawyers when they asked him how Lesley's drinking water had been transported from Bradford. He told them that as intelligent men they surely realised all water has a fingerprint which could be traced to its area of origin and that he had got the water from a service station on the motorway.
Sadly, the British legal system is adversarial and not designed to seek the truth. The prosecution claimed Neilson did not feed Lesley yet Len Rudd the Whittles transport manager who heard the tape recorded directions message on the final night and who had known Lesley all her life said she sounded calm and her voice carried no fear or nervousness. That final tape was made on the late afternoon of January 16th almost 72 hours after she last ate if the police case is to stand up.
I know there's not much he could do now, considering he was in a room with wardens etc, but I felt so unsafe and utterly disgusted that we were allowed to meet such a monster.
I'm just a 16 year old girl, it could have been me or any one of my friends who suffered something like this. I hope he suffers big time, but to be honest, I think he should have been put to sleep for doing such an evil thing.
My dad said he can see Black Panther out of his cell window, and all he does all day is sit outside in his wheelchair, in all weather, just staring into space. He must be completely gone in the head after what he did.
He looks like a lonely, ill old man now, because he is. It costs £600 a week to keep a prisoner. If you think about it, he's been in prison since the 1970s, that's over 4m it's costed to keep him there, and now he's ill, it costs even more.
I met him the other day when I went to see my dad at Norwich HMP. He was put on "low risk" because he is old and dying. My dad is on F Wing, which is a wing for people who have just made a silly mistake, who are serving a short period of time, not people who did what Black Panther did. I think it's disgusting that other F Wing inmates and visitors were allowed to be in the same room as him.
neilson is now in hell, ha, ha, burn in hell scum.
leedumett444 1 month ago
This monster killed her. Why would he leave her alive so she could Identify him?
norandrostenedione 2 months ago
Whats a panda car?
longhairfan 2 months ago
@longhairfan a "black and white"...a police car that is black and white, like a panda bear...:):):)
maygoodcometous1 2 months ago
It's a wonder anyone gets caught doing anything illegal in this part of England. These cops were unbelievably inept, and Leslie paid the price. If this weren't such a tragic event it would be worthy of a comic strip.
RIP, Leslie.
Dr1Canuckchuck 4 months ago 2
What a tragic event! What a lot of police blunders! The British have the tenderest hearts on earth (you can see from their horrid reaction to violence -- I know, having lived amongst them for 3 years), but it's too bad that all this had to happen.
shonedwards1 6 months ago
this makes the keystone cops look like sherlock holmes!
MrHendrix1959 7 months ago
There was another member of the public who helped to overpower Neilson called Keith Wood who has sadly died,he had studied karate and delivered a karate chop to Neilson's neck to subdue him,both He and Roy Morris were given a reward by the Post Office .Tony White & Stuart Mckenzie were given the Queens Gallantry Medal,Wally Boreham has also died since this documentary was made
TheWolfie6 7 months ago
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sexykatie90 8 months ago
he did not knock her off, he pushed her to her death. he is a psychophat. he put blame on eveyone but himself.
ad8369 8 months ago
@ad8369 He left her alive. I don't recommend anyone not eat for around 80 hours but anyone experimenting would find they lost very little weight. When Len Rudd, who had known her all her life, heard the final ransom tape and he was the only person who did because police recording equipment malfunctioned he said she sounded calm with no signs of nervousness. And you're saying that was after 70 hours without food? The truth is he did feed her when he was there and she died alone much later.
Bodaniel7 8 months ago
he did not knock her off, he pushed her to her death.
ad8369 8 months ago
I'm impressed by the chip shop guy!
sianchild 9 months ago
@sianchild You are right to be impressed by the chip shop guy. Roy Morris was a true hero. The police would have alighted upon Neilson's name and address through his driving license application within six weeks even if he had escaped from them that night but if they had arrived at his house he would have tried to shoot his way out with the arsenal of ammunition he had in his attic room . Who knows how many he would have killed? Roy Morris's actions prevented a potential bloodbath.
Bodaniel7 8 months ago
@sianchild Me tooooo!
NinaHoney3 6 months ago
THESE COPS ARE ALL OLD FOOLS, THEY MADE WAY TOO MANY MISTAKES. FUCKING IDIOTS!
416RIZZLE416 11 months ago
Scotland yards fault. If those lazy bastards did thier jobs they would have got their earlier
blacksuite1 1 year ago
Neilson's own fears and phobias caused him to panic and flee. This was the first time he had been in direct contact with a police operation - previously he had always been long gone by the time they arrived. He was sure the police were closing in on him and felt he was in the ever tightening vice of a police trap. He imagined he heard dogs barking and a helicopter overhead and believing the police were right behind him dropped everything apart from his shotgun and ran for his life.
Bodaniel7 1 year ago
The cops and the newspaper killed that girl, he left her because of them ... my opinion...
Kypooh2 1 year ago
Lesley weighed only 98lbs when found. Her stomach and intestines were completely empty and she had not eaten for a considerable time. She had lost a lot of weight and was emaciated. IN THREE DAYS? Even if Neilson had not fed her there would not have been time for that deterioration - one only has to remember how long the Ulster hunger strikers lasted in the 80s. Neilson left Lesley alive. He panicked and fled without going back down the shaft. Lesley was alive for several days afterwards.
Bodaniel7 1 year ago 9
@Bodaniel7 well you can go only three days without water, before dying. Not a pleasent death, but hopefully for lesley, she was most of the time unconsious. That can happen when you're without flouds.
girl92love 7 months ago
@girl92love She wasn't without fluids. She had a half bottle of brandy - found in the shaft - and drinking water. We know this because Neilson caught out his own lawyers when they asked him how Lesley's drinking water had been transported from Bradford. He told them that as intelligent men they surely realised all water has a fingerprint which could be traced to its area of origin and that he had got the water from a service station on the motorway.
Bodaniel7 7 months ago
Sadly, the British legal system is adversarial and not designed to seek the truth. The prosecution claimed Neilson did not feed Lesley yet Len Rudd the Whittles transport manager who heard the tape recorded directions message on the final night and who had known Lesley all her life said she sounded calm and her voice carried no fear or nervousness. That final tape was made on the late afternoon of January 16th almost 72 hours after she last ate if the police case is to stand up.
Bodaniel7 1 year ago
She actually died of fright-not strangulation-her heart stopped through sheer terror.
MALCBAGGIE 1 year ago
the police are amatuers, and totally unprofessional, and it was there blunders that probably got poor leslie killed.
leedumett444 1 year ago
I know there's not much he could do now, considering he was in a room with wardens etc, but I felt so unsafe and utterly disgusted that we were allowed to meet such a monster.
I'm just a 16 year old girl, it could have been me or any one of my friends who suffered something like this. I hope he suffers big time, but to be honest, I think he should have been put to sleep for doing such an evil thing.
sadiecakess 1 year ago
@sadiecakess I utterly agree, he should be destroyed. Some things are just too evil to forgive.
DThinkinHumanBean 1 year ago
My dad said he can see Black Panther out of his cell window, and all he does all day is sit outside in his wheelchair, in all weather, just staring into space. He must be completely gone in the head after what he did.
He looks like a lonely, ill old man now, because he is. It costs £600 a week to keep a prisoner. If you think about it, he's been in prison since the 1970s, that's over 4m it's costed to keep him there, and now he's ill, it costs even more.
To be continued..
sadiecakess 1 year ago
I met him the other day when I went to see my dad at Norwich HMP. He was put on "low risk" because he is old and dying. My dad is on F Wing, which is a wing for people who have just made a silly mistake, who are serving a short period of time, not people who did what Black Panther did. I think it's disgusting that other F Wing inmates and visitors were allowed to be in the same room as him.
To be continued..
sadiecakess 1 year ago
This scumbag should have been hanged for what he did to Lesley Whittle.
TheWolfie6 1 year ago
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Now in his seventies, Neilson continues to serve his sentence at HMP Norwich and remains one of Britain's longest-serving prisoners.
On 29 June 2008, it was revealed that Neilson has Motor Neurone Disease, a progressive and fatal disease...
Hope the cunt suffers till the day he dies ..nothing but a total cunt.
agaichapter25 1 year ago
Now in his seventies, Neilson continues to serve his sentence at HMP Norwich[4] and remains one of Britain's longest-serving prisoners.
On 29 June 2008, it was revealed that Neilson has Motor Neurone Disease, a progressive and fatal disease...
Hope the cunt suffers till the day he dies ..nothing but a total cunt.
agaichapter25 1 year ago 8