Meat: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Larry King Live-2/3

[Avaricious123]

The study that he is referring too was done on frikin rats with CASINE... and now he's comparing it too all animal proteins. Not to mention he was giving the rats a shit load of casine. talk about extreme.

[potterylady1]

Wonder how much the meat industry is paying here lol.

[pdak005]

you dont need a debate with some woman who works for the meat industry just look at how full your hospitals are.

[VitalVeda]

BTW, human animals are herbivore/frugivore, no matter what we have been told/SOLD to believe: earthsave.ca/articles/health/c­omparative.html

[VitalVeda]

WOW, other than the empirical scientific FACTS from Dr. T. Colin Campbell, this is nothing more than MAD (meat and dairy) industry propaganda! Thank "science" for Dr. Campbell! How the other 3 got on this show would be beyond me, but I worked in the "Health Care" industry (who profits endlessly from our diseases), so I know exactly how they got on this show (can we say sponsors!). Thank you for sharing this mass sheeple media moment that our bewildered herd still "buys" into!

[Daideepya]

women wears newspaper!!

[DiceEsque]

Dr Rodriguez honestly sounds like somebody who took a semester course in nutrition at her local community college, whereas Dr. Campbell brings a deep well of knowledge and revelation to the table.

[synergestic]

Good to see Professor Colin at such shows. He needs more recognition to share necessary knowledge among public.

[TBU1992]

Look at mothers milk it got's like 6% protein of all the calories in it

[TBU1992]

dumb bitch

[FathomlessJoy]

Here's a task. If any meat eater accepts and completes it, I will eat nothing but big macs the rest of my life. Run down, as Anthony Bourdain puts it, any wild mammal bigger than a rat, and eat it just as it is, without a single tool. See I can eat most veggies anytime, anywhere, without fire, w/o cunning, w/o cruelty, w/o stress. Can you say the same for animals? Run it down, pounce on it - no cages or guns - chew thru that fur and eat it teeth, brain, bones and all. Do it and I will revert.

[UMakeTheConnection]

@FathomlessJoy That is so true - and I second the challenge.

I have an animated link by Bizarro under my main page description titled --

*Herbivore VS. Carnivore - You be the judge !* It pretty much describes what you`ve said and with a little humour. People really need to stop and think for themselves and stop listening to what these paid industry spokespersons`, whos only purpose is to push a very lucrative agenda.

[WhiteBeltPesilat]

@FathomlessJoy Humans used to be able to do that. Actually, the african bushmen hunt deer by chasing it until the deer collapses from cardiovascular fatigue.I think we highly underestimate what we are capable of with the proper training.

[330MillionGods]

@FathomlessJoy

Good response..!

[mrbuster1964]

NANCY IS A HO FOR THE MEAT INDUSTRY!!! SHE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HEALTH!!!! ONLY KICK BACKS!!!

[UMakeTheConnection]

@mrbuster1964 You are 100% on the money. I looked into her Bio and she is supported by them. Ho is an appropriate term I would say under the circumstances ;o)

[DiceEsque]

@UMakeTheConnection Yup. "Dr. Rodriguez has an active research program that has been extramurally funded by agencies including USDA, NIH, the American Heart Association, the National Dairy Council, the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, and the Egg Nutrition Center."

[TuneInTurnOnDropOutt]

@UMakeTheConnection Thanks for doing the research. Goddamn it, F the meat industry and their whores.

[UMakeTheConnection]

@TuneInTurnOnDropOutt The key word is "industry", they whore themselves for the all mighty dollar, at any cost. They have bought and paid for just about every politician and redirect the media to support their empire. We've been lied to all every level, but when it comes to our basic needs, such as food, water and our air.... I get really ticked off.

[WithWings2222]

@mrbuster1964 the basic definition of nutrition is the process of light. there is no nutrition in animal (dead carcass) meat so I find it very difficult to give credibility to Nancy and on what she says.

[WithWings2222]

Respond to this video... does she not hear what she is saying??? signs of nature Nancy... Signature... there is wisdom in the plant kingdom...

[FathomlessJoy]

@mrbuster1964 The sick thing is, as a "nutritionist" she claims she gives her son hamburger off the grill. Um, apparently you needed the 18 week course instead of the 9 week one, Nancy Pants, because meat off the grill or skillet is carcinogenic, dr. Proven, fact, true! Wow, the sickness people are willing to endure and the lies they are able to teach children under the guise of pleasure.....

[potterylady1]

@mrbuster1964 I so agree with you.

[crispymoore]

Who are you going to trust, the guy who has been doing research for 60 years, all around the world, with the world's top scientists, or some woman who is siting anecdotal evidence.

[hoikevinhoi]

that woman is a cunt

[eatpigsnot]

Gary Yourofskys speech and Q&A, which is on youtube, is absolutely worth seeing. cant recommend it highly enough

[UMakeTheConnection]

@eatpigsnot  AGREED ! And for others I hope they take to watch this in it's entirety -

Best Speech You Will Ever Hear - Gary Yourofsky

/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4

[terminator800tlgm]

Dr. Campbell's "China Study" has been the number one bestseller on Amazon.com on diet and diseases. Grab a copy and read the connections on diseases and diet.

[andrea202197]

The question is, do we have it in us to kill an animal? or do we have the strength to kill a cow? Don't ask other people, ASK YOURSELF! -- Also, did you know that pesticides are made from PETROLEUM(AKA gasoline)?? Eat organic!

[UMakeTheConnection]

@andrea202197 I couldn't agree more !!!  Thanks.

[synergestic]

@andrea202197 That's sick dude, gasoline! Even the veggies are unhealthy nowadays.

[tjudy05]

Basically, you can completely disregard anything Nancy Rodriguez has to say as she is a nutritionist and not a registered dietitian. Anyone with an undergrad degree in nutrition can claim to be a nutritionist. There is no state licensing required. A registered dietitian on the other hand, has to complete an undergrad degree in dietetics, a minimum 1 year clinical internship, and take a state board exam. Registered dietitians are the industry standard for a reason. They know their shit.

[FathomlessJoy]

@tjudy05 Thanks for making those comments! That's something (in addition to the destruction of our planet by the livestock industry) that scares the hell out me: all these people with 3 week certifications claiming this and that about the latest diet fad. The other day flesh eating friend (yeah, I have those friends too ;) said, "You are just too into all that vegan food." I replied, "All food is vegan food." That is, if it ain't vegan, it is dead and rotting and not fit for consumption. Peace!

[tjudy05]

Basically, you can completely disregard anything Nancy Rodriguez has to say as she is a nutritionist and not a registered dietitian. Anyone with an undergrad degree in nutrition can claim to be a nutritionist. There is no state licensing required. A registered dietitian on the other hand, has to complete an undergrad degree in dietetics, a minimum 1 year clinical internship, and take a state board exam. Registered dietitians are the industry standard for a reason. They know their shit.

[flagship21]

look at china healthiest country on the planet until fast food invaded, they will be come fat slobs like the americans

[gyrate4]

The woman can't name the mystery nutrient in meat. Anyone notice that? She's a paid charlatan for the beef industry.

[vinny111]

may be we should package that woman she is so Dumb omg,she is a nutritionist very bad

[allyskimmer]

We love you Campbell!!! Keep up the amazing work and keep spreading the news.

[Eyecandy4u]

The sickest looking person there is Dr Campbell. He looks even more frail than Larry. And no, being skinny doesn't mean he is healthy. Look at his sallow eyes, wrinkled skin and sunken face! How on earth can you say that is healthy!? The results speak for themselves. Look at the side by side comparison at 0:05

[UMakeTheConnection]

@Eyecandy4u You can't win with people like yourself, he is either too thin, or too wrinkled but what if he was heavy, then he would be too fat. It's health on the inside, it's sharpness of mind. If you ask me, I would much rather be T. Colin Campbell than any of the others.

[Eyecandy4u]

@UMakeTheConnection My comments are my opinions. Last time I checked, US is a democratic country with freedom of speech. This has nothing to do with "winning". I don't need to "win" anyone over. I just want people to THINK for THEMSELVES instead of being blind sheep willing to believe anything people say. That's why I say go check the facts for yourselves. And Campbell looking frail is a statement of the obvious. Health is multifaceted, if you're healthy on the inside, outside should show.

[tbayguy]

@UMakeTheConnection The avg nutritionist knows squat, they push the national food guide which is total garbage formulated by the food lobby groups basically pushing dairy, meat and eggs. Not to mention US Large Corp. greed have RUINED the entire food chain. Feeding cows corn, keeping them in large feed lots, shit in all the meat, its completely disgusting. Not to mention its cruel and worse for the environment and greeenhouse gases are higher for beef production than all the vehicles.

[UMakeTheConnection]

@tbayguy I absolutely agree with you. The food system, on all levels, is very corrupt. That is why I drink distilled water, eat organic produce and have completely eliminated all animal products, especially DAIRY.

Corporations devised the food guide with government blessings (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). It's criminal what goes on, but I'm sure you are aware.

[gyrate4]

@UMakeTheConnection He's the same age as King, he has far better posture, he never had to takes drugs or have his chest split open, he never had a face lift, and he’s intellectually sharper. I’d rather be Campbell any day.

[STONRUNNIT]

@gyrate4 Right on! i'm with you! I's rather be Dr.Cambell!!! : )

[monkeydomonkey]

@Eyecandy4u so true if he eate some meat he would be big and strong like me . were not monkeys anymore .

[LeoInterHyenaem]

@Eyecandy4u Chap, do you know how old the man is? He was 85 at the time of the interview! if you look as he does at that age, you'll have my compliments. Comparing an 85 year old man to a 45 year old female meat industry puppet? An the makeup she wears? That's a very prudent comparison! Open your eyes, mate!

[ateista72]

@Eyecandy4u well to pop your litlle buble of illusion, larry king had heart attack on 25 february 1987 and on 12 of february 2010 had major surgery to place stsnts in his coronary artery to remove plaque from his heart, 2010 he also resigned from CNN and now looking like death warmed up, wereDr Colin Campbell is ageing gracefully and in good health , and between him and the bimbo who probobly recives founding from some food or drug company t there is about 50 years age differance .

[gyrate4]

@ateista72 I agree! What a dignified gentleman Campbell is. It inspires you to age gracefully and well. I don’t want to be own 6-8 pills just to live when I get old. I want to accept responsibility for my own health. Quality of life is important!

[apocalist420]

How do I remove the comments options from viewing, for some reason I keep viewing them and I still see nothing but unscientific rediculous arguments made by people that seem to know everything. Please make it stop!

[senecadawg2]

the chef is a moron. and the woman is a liar.

[graciousSenor]

I detest Larry King. In my opinion he is a horrible host.

[ChilenoPiscean22]

That anthony guy is retarded and a digusting fuck " one word: bacon , its so delious" yea you sick fuck so lets all be cannbals because some find it pleasurable. Jeffey dumer abused,exploited , murdered then ATE many young men all for his pleasure...should that be a valid excuse for him??? The only diffrence between people like Jeffery and other meat eaters (canabals) like Anthony is that they choose humans and as thier victims. Then all of a sudden cannbalism is sick and digusting....

[ChilenoPiscean22]

Fuk i hate larry cutting people off!! esepcailly when people are 10 times smarter TRYING to explain things...he is right there ready to cut them off with another stupid question or comment.

[octobermonsters]

Yay vegetarians! Meat is the worst environmental pollutant! Plus studies show it has made the world obese and sick.

Be veggie be thin and gorgeous AND healthy :)

[UMakeTheConnection]

@octobermonsters  Everyone should give up dairy products first. Casein, IGF-1 as well as the saturated fats, hormones, antibiotics, and pus and well other viruses

/watch?v=yMHvMAUDHj4

(also check out the links included in the above video).

No other mammal on this planet consumes mothers milk after being weaned. The corporations have found a way to enslave and profit from these animals. It's truly sad and very disturbing. Dairy = disease and other things too long to post here.

[ababsurdo1567]

Both experts in nutritional biochemistry? Puh-lease! She is just spouting the conventional American/Western view of nutrition (not gleaned from science but clever advertising). Even if there were some truth to what she is saying, how many Americans/Westerners only eat 3oz. of meat per day?!? This is NOT a fair debate! I heart Dr. Campbell.

[tbayguy]

@ababsurdo1567 exactly so many nutritionists know zip. They just regurgitate the standard big corp countries food guide. As soon as they start spouting off about that I turn my ears off to the govt/corporate brainwashing speech

[UMakeTheConnection]

@tbayguy I agree with your comment. Nutritionists are out there to help set corporate standards and for setting government food guides.  They are great at regurgitating their nonsense to trusting and yes, a brainwashed public.

[dscheller77]

The people promoting meat in this video have very little intelligence

[MichaelBallack91]

I don't think this girl realizes that with things like meat. They're cooked. Now what happens to vitamins and nutrients when they're cooked? What happens to protein. Compare that to hemp seeds, a complete protein, all your EFAs, and it's not cooked. Anthony Bourdain's argument is retarded. Where are our claws? Why are we not the fastest animals on Earth, if we're top of the food chain? Why don't we have sharper teeth to tear through flesh? He comes across as very uneducated on this subject.

[Ascended111111]

Firstly, SHE can't COMPARE her expertise to his. Nuff said.

[chadpopstar]

Cows (beef) and dairy (milk) are high in protein. Where do cows get their protein? PLANTS! The same goes for powerful animals such as horses, giraffes, elephants and gorillas, to name a few.. NONE OF THEM EAT MEAT.

[UMakeTheConnection]

@chadpopstar So true, and if I may add to your comment... "none of them drink milk after they have been weaned".

Humans are the only mammals on the planet that continue this unhealthy practice. Although there is lots of calcium in dairy products, the animal protein creates an "acidic" environment in our bodies. Calcium is used to offset this unbalance by stripping calcium out of our bones. Animal protein = calcium loss. The more milk you drink, the more calcium you lose. Eat greens & almonds.

[auggiedoggy]

@chadpopstar : That's because all of them are herbivores! We are not! There's no (health) reason to cut out all animal foods from our diet. The healthiest populations include some  meat in their diets, i.e. look at the Okinawan's traditional diet. Highly plant-based but supplemented with fish and pork.

[ChilenoPiscean22]

@auggiedoggy

There are NUMEROUS health issue linked to eating meat, have you not payed attention the doctor?? research what he says before you ignore him.

Secondly humans CHOOSE to be omivores , the earliest humans were vegans.

Life on earth was ONLY possible tru photosynthierzers (plants, algae, some bacteria) who not only take carbon dixoide then give us oxygen, it creates its own food (glucose) for it and others consumptions. Thats science you can not argue.

[auggiedoggy]

@ChilenoPiscean22 : Humans have evolved eating meat over a period of 2 million years. Your definition of human differs from the rest of the academic world. If you think man was vegan then you are the one who needs to educate himself. Let's talk about the genus Homo which is the genus relevant to us. The problem with you extremist vegans is that you let your religion take over from reality. I can't help you with that. You'll have to overcome that on your own.

[ChilenoPiscean22]

@auggiedoggy

there is NO denying that ALL organism STARTED off as cumsumers of photosyntherziers, there WOULD be hardly or NO life on this planet if it wasent for them. Thats science you can deny it if you want doesnt make it true.

AND if you knew anything on science you would know we all came from the same source or single cell organism.

Rememer that humans are the ONLY species who HAS to cook thier meat to consume it, for a long time i may add. You lose nutrients when you cook food.

[auggiedoggy]

@ChilenoPiscean22 : You're a fool. There's no other other way to describe it. Its clear that you know nothing about human origins because if you did you'd see that the genus Homo is what is relevant to the human species today, not some organism that existed when life began. That fact that you are basing your claim on man being a natural vegan because of some non-human organism is a joke. Don't waste my time with that irrelevant crap.

[ChilenoPiscean22]

@auggiedoggy

You can lead a horse to water but cant make him drink it.

Stay ignorant if you want, Vegans live LONG full, HEALTHY lives so there is no proving anything to you.

If you think consuming an animal that has been pumped full of antibiotics, and other chemicals, who up until its very moment of death was full of anxiety,fear,depression, then death, ingest that energy and think for one second it doesnt affect you somehow is BEYOUND naive.

Be a human burial of corpses, Gl with Death.

[auggiedoggy]

@ChilenoPiscean22 : I hate to tell you this but the longest lived people are fish eaters. Look at the Okinawans and Icelandic people. Vegans do NOT live longer (it just feels longer). The drivel you spew out is the same crap that all vegan/vegtarians extremists have been crying about for years. Your diet has become a religion and facts no longer enter into the picture. Be happy in your vegan dreamworld.

[abesut]

@auggiedoggy Humans are omnivores from birth to death. We cant break down cellulose like herbivores. our intenstines are longer than carnivores but shorter than herbivoes. We resemble chimps in most aspects. Yes chimp hunt and eat meat aswell. even tho they have fruit and greens accecible.So does baboons. and its naive to say that we ate only green/fruit at the dawn of mankind. Omnivores is what we are. End of story

[auggiedoggy]

@abesut : Are you adding to what I said or trying to convince me of something?

[WhiteBeltPesilat]

@chadpopstar Lions and tigers do. So do sharks, dolphins and whales, cats and dogs. T-rex ate meat. Megalodon (50ft. great white shark) ate meat. Bears eat meat, as do anacondas, vultures, eagles and hawks. Technically, I've been vegan since Sunday. I've decide to give it a shot, but the "big animals get their protein from plants" argument is flawed.

[TheUniversalGarden]

Raw - Organic - Whole Foods - Plant Based Diet : The Healthiest Way To Go ! Yeah for Dr. T. Colin Campbell for informing us . . .

[rrrina]

Awesome!  Kudos to Jonathan and Dr. Campbell!

Go Veg!

Rina Deych, RN

[fatlies]

T. Colin Campbell, Douglas GRaham - they all look like HELL.

WORSE THAN HELL

Graham is 56 looks about 68 or more

Campbell look about 101/ In fact look up Pierre Martin who himself is around 100 years old. HE LOOSK BETTER THAN CAMPBELL!

LOL

[Marcoosianism]

As a society I think we're used to seeing people with higher than optimal body fat levels. Campbell and Graham are both individuals with low body fat. For fun, check out most competitive bodybuilders when they're in contest shape and between 3 to 5 % body fat (which is a bit too low imo). They all look about 10 years older if not more - even the guys in their 20s. It's all about what you personally value - looking like the acceptable norm or actually being in optimal health and condition.

[morpheusraven396]

@fatlies hey FATLIES!!!!! im 19 years old 180 lbs 9% bodyfat.....and i'm a vegetarian......how does that feel....?

[fatlies]

Get off your buttocks, you whacked out vegan rejects and actually DIG UP The China Study itself, NOT the book.

You will soon see Campbell's book's misinformation does NOT match the data from the actual China Study

ANTHONY COLPO has done this. Goog Anthony Colpo "The China Study More Vegan Nonsense"

Your hero has LIED to you, you sorry vegans.

How does it feeeeeel?

[morpheusraven396]

if you told anthony bourdain a human foetus tasted like chicken...he'd bulk order 200 and serve it at his sisters wedding.....seriously wtf is wrong with larry....hes asking a guy who'll eat shit and still say it tastes good about whether or not we should eat meat...?

[UMakeTheConnection]

Bravo, well said about Anthony Bourdain !!!! Arrogant SOB if you ask me. Perhaps he hasn't graduated to cooking veggies yet and is worried about losing a high paying job.

[Marcoosianism]

hehe, indeed seems like his main argument for eating meat was that it tastes good. Shame on Larry King Live for wasting a spot on the panel with an individual with such a shallow and limited viewpoint on the topic at hand.

[morpheusraven396]

he he dumb bitch doesnt know what the crap shes saying...she keeps pausing like a retard....food=fruits and vegetables....i dont see any other purpose of them being on this planet....animals should either be left alone or taken care of...just the way we do with other humans...we don't go around killing...we'd be nothing but mindless barbaric savages if we did that

[raultalbot7]

Grumpy old fart.

[OneAnnoyedVegan]

Where did this woman get her nutritionist degree? She is speaking nothing but bullshit. I have been vegan since I was 14... now I'm 27 and even had a child with a VEGAN PREGNANCY and I am perfectly healthy!

[UIevo]

No kidding eh? I'm not even a vegan or vegetarian, but the crap I'm hearing makes me want to stop watching this. Even if you take away all the diseases, drugs and medications and carbon monoxide pumped gas from the meat equation, all the benefits meat has a prior to cooking it. Not after. Cooking the meat destroys the nutrients and enzymes that give it any real value. Not to mention there are other sources not mentioned here that far surpass meat in protein and other nutrients. Ugh.

[MichaelBallack91]

@OneAnnoyedVegan

hahaha I was wondering the same thing. This girl's an absolute idiot. Only person stupider is Anthony Bourdain. Or Larry King for being biased and bringing in 3 people who eat animal products, 2 of whom seem dumb as a post, and 1 who seems to be unable to commit to his beliefs, against one very respected doctor, who was very polite in dealing with these people. I am pretty passionate about this, and would probably rip into them dealing with these people :P

[auggiedoggy]

@OneAnnoyedVegan : Some things take longer than 13 years to show up. Check back after 20, 30 years.

[OneAnnoyedVegan]

@auggiedoggy we're omnivores, can do just fine without animal products hun :)

[auggiedoggy]

@OneAnnoyedVegan : I've been on a vegetarian diet. We can get by on a vegetarian (not vegan) diet but I have always felt my best when some meat was included.

[UMakeTheConnection]

@auggiedoggy I started vegetarian but I had a very rude awakening about dairy. It honestly is the cause and promotion of all western diseases - who would have thought. Please watch this and be sure to check out the science links and other vids included in the video description. I can no longer deny that dairy products are the root to what ails us. I would rather eat a piece of flesh than consume dairy.

/watch?v=yMHvMAUDHj4

I am only sharing this to help people see the truth.

[ChilenoPiscean22]

@auggiedoggy

What kind of ignorance would make you think that you couldnt live on a vegan diet??? If you honestly think you feel better when eating meat vs a veg diet all i can say is that your too uninformaed about food and have NOT been eating properrly while on a vegatirain diet. there is NOTHING you can get eating meat,diary or eggs that you cant get from others sources, so maybe you should research more on biology and how our bodies work.

[auggiedoggy]

@ChilenoPiscean22 : Vegan diets do not provide taurine nor do they provide B12. One can survive on a vegan diet but I'd rather thrive than survive. The earliest humans were not vegans. Talk about being uninformed. Your definition of early humans must be different from the rest of the world. Australopithecines were not human. If we are talking about the human species then we are talking about the genus Homo and the earliest known member of this genus was not vegan.

[ChilenoPiscean22]

@auggiedoggy

I get my inforamtion from my science book, Candian might i add, we are the leaders of alot of many sciences, So do i believe the scientist or some fruit on the internet claiming humans were around 2 million years ago...

Tarurin AND b12 CAN BE EASILY OBTAINED. Don't fool yourself there is NOTHING in meat that can be obtained 10times from other sources.

Im talking about THE beggiing of time here not your claim of 1 or 2 millions years ago.

[auggiedoggy]

@ChilenoPiscean22 : I'm claiming our species has existed for 2 million years, its a fact. Explain how taurine and B12 can "easily be obtained" without supplements and enriched foods. You can't. Obviously you need more educating.

[ChilenoPiscean22]

@auggiedoggy

You just answered the question, Isnt it amazing how technology can exsist to not only promote cruelty and violence but also promote against it?

No its not a fact we humans AS TODAY exsisted 2 million years ago good work pulling that out of your ass, AND there is no CONCLUSIVE evidence that we evolved from the homo anything, it is just AT this moment what more people tend to accept as the THEORY.

So keep researching you might actually learn the truth.

[auggiedoggy]

@ChilenoPiscean22 : You got it wrong again but no surprised. I said the species within the genus Homo is human. These are our ancestors. There is really no disagreement among paleoanthropologists on this one. Only people totally ignorant of the science (or religious nutburgers) have an issue with this concept. You may be one of the most clued out people I've had the misfortune to meet on this subject. I am sorry for you.

[UMakeTheConnection]

Agreed, and Dr. Campbell has spent most of his life researching this topic. He is very well respected. Sadly, everyone loves an excuse for their bad habits, so if they choose to listen to a Nutritionist (which may have corporate interests), a Chef and a Meat Industry CEO... well they must realize the motivation involved with these statements. Dr. Campbell is simply informing people of the risks and has nothing to gain.

[mcsweets6]

At least the government could have chosen a more eloquent person to represent the pro-meat side. OUCH. She was NOT well spoken.

On the other hand Dr. Campbell NAILED IT!!!