LOL! I should hope so. The objective is not to deform/de-sensitize yourself. In fact I would say my forearms are MORE sensitive, yet also able to handle more stimulation/stress.
Thank you sir. Truthfully I owe what little I know to my sifu and the assistance of my training brothers, as well as a few other great martial friends I have.
we got 3-star training at our school after a group class sometimes. There's a 9-star form we have at 'green' sash. 3-star is GREAT fore-arm conditioning, with proper footwork. Kills in training, but your opponents shots will just glance off your fore-arms in sparring. End up having popeye-popeye arms. ha!
foster you should find a class, cant really be taught the small details of ma and gungfu through a video. if nothing locally train once a month somewhere else and train that stuff hard in between times!
I would recommend that you visit a good school and inquire about purchasing a quantity of their formula, or obtain a formula and make it yourself. I personally wouldn't trust a "store-bought" brand.
I see - Okay I will inquire next time, I am going to join a IMA school or else a Praying Mantis School - whichever one is open to me - would it be cool of you to send me a formula - I live near a chinese herbal store so i can grab everything
Check out Dr. John Crescione. He's a Wing Chun instructor, Chiropractor and TCM doctor, with VERY good skill. He has a few recipes published online. Just google him and you'll find them. Happy hunting.
In Chinese martial arts, the practice of striking, be it the hands or the body, should always include medicine to enhance the training and heal any damage done during. This area of Chinese medicine is called "dit da."
Sir, may I ask what style do you practice? If it is Japanese/Okinawan in origin you might want to buy a copy of (or ask your sensei about) "Bubishi", with regards to herbal preparations.
I heard that conditioning the bones increase the risk of bone cancer. What do you think of this? I often do bridge training, so it's a bit scary that i may have bone cancer if that's true.
Repeated trauma to the bone has been linked to increased incident of bone cancer, however, proper conditioning is done gradually, and with Chinese martial arts generally, no conditioning regimen is complete without qigong and medicine (dit da).
Further, the necessity, possession and use of the medicine must match the intensity of the training; otherwise the results will be little-to-none. It's like the guy that buys a load of bodybuilding supplements but hardly trains. All he has is expensive urine.
i have a very dense bone structure so i might be able to bleed and sweat through it.i think i might have to get the sides from a one legged crane stance. i'll let you know how it turns out in a few months. many thanks to both of you . all knowledge is much appreciated.
(jdangiel) thank you. i appreciate the teaching. when traing the lower leg, does one just train the front of the shin in your lineage or does one train all exposed sides of the tibia? thank you for your time.
To address your other questions - 1. There is definitely a shift to bow side to side during the exercise. 2. The front of the shin is the only really useful part for fighting, and is the only part struck.
Try hitting the sides where they meet the calf muscle and report back how all those nerves reacted! (Hitting the front is bad enough!) Be strong!
1. We're seeing only the forearms. In good Southern practice, the shins are developed,too.
2. Open hand = a measure of relaxation or "releasing"
throughout the exercise. You build up SLOWLY over time. Build an iron bridge, not mutilate the forearms. THAT'S why you do it open-handed. Notice - connection to the waist- throws chi to the arm as it is being trained. Chi flows better through the more relaxed arm which equals safer, better development. Be strong Syracuse!!
With us we train it with the hand open for a number of reasons. First, to close the fist tightens the muscles around the bone and provides a little cushion, which we feel robs us of the benefit, which is to train the bone. Second, too much tension exposes the nerves to too much stimulation too early.
how do we deal with soreness in the elbow joint? i did 3-star for about 7-10 minutes with a senior and felt like my forearms were cracked and my elbows were separated. the dit da jow helped with bruising and some soreness but the joints are still a bit tender (even after a week)
It shouldn't be sore. Sounds like you're hitting harder than you're ready for and the elbow joint is hyper extending. Not good. The forearm itself can get sore and bruised ( dit da jow helps here), but you shouldn't be experiencing soreness or trauma to the joints. A common point of many conditioning methods among many Chinese styles is that even at high intensity, they take care of your body, not damage it.
thanks for the tip.. i've recently been trying to lessen the impact intensity but prolong the training time.. this has helped considerably now so that i'm able to train harder more often rather than K.O.ing myself by overdoiing it all at once.
I also found that alternating my fighting and conditioning days helps to round out the training overall.
well done and inspiring. Thank you
tantothom 4 months ago
We began with Da Saam Sing yesterday ^^
sowa12 1 year ago
@edio123-I started with sifu in 1989.
supyeekiusau 1 year ago
sifu when did you start with sifu yee i was thier in the early 90s
edlo123 1 year ago
very nice
how often should you practise da saam sing ? many times a day? every day a week?
maximisatwat 1 year ago
Go on with your bad self. You have powerful bridges bro.Sherif. Much respect.
Bro. Don Hamby Sifu
Quandoman 2 years ago
Awesome!
SuperTutorialKing 2 years ago
amazing
markohu 2 years ago
peace son of man !!!
PrinceNamor777 2 years ago
and after that dit da jow
good stuff
ShyningStar1 3 years ago
Hi sifu, do you still have feeling in your forearms?
megaman2016 3 years ago
LOL! I should hope so. The objective is not to deform/de-sensitize yourself. In fact I would say my forearms are MORE sensitive, yet also able to handle more stimulation/stress.
supyeekiusau 3 years ago
ive seen some of your other vids and its freeking scary to see your muscle mass has not hampered your speed one bit.
megaman2016 3 years ago
Thank you sir. Truthfully I owe what little I know to my sifu and the assistance of my training brothers, as well as a few other great martial friends I have.
supyeekiusau 3 years ago
we got 3-star training at our school after a group class sometimes. There's a 9-star form we have at 'green' sash. 3-star is GREAT fore-arm conditioning, with proper footwork. Kills in training, but your opponents shots will just glance off your fore-arms in sparring. End up having popeye-popeye arms. ha!
AlexEsther 3 years ago
any tips for a do-it-youself, at home, wanna be trainee?
foster21 4 years ago
foster you should find a class, cant really be taught the small details of ma and gungfu through a video. if nothing locally train once a month somewhere else and train that stuff hard in between times!
myeducation123 3 years ago
any tips for some do-it-yourself, at home, trainers?
foster21 4 years ago
what is a good brand of dit da jow you recommend for any conditioning
djchangsta 4 years ago
I would recommend that you visit a good school and inquire about purchasing a quantity of their formula, or obtain a formula and make it yourself. I personally wouldn't trust a "store-bought" brand.
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
I see - Okay I will inquire next time, I am going to join a IMA school or else a Praying Mantis School - whichever one is open to me - would it be cool of you to send me a formula - I live near a chinese herbal store so i can grab everything
djchangsta 4 years ago
Check out Dr. John Crescione. He's a Wing Chun instructor, Chiropractor and TCM doctor, with VERY good skill. He has a few recipes published online. Just google him and you'll find them. Happy hunting.
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
thanx man, Imma check it
djchangsta 4 years ago
sir when you mean "medicine" what are you refering to? when our sensei makes us do iron body he never said anything about medicine. thanks
newmexico800 4 years ago
In Chinese martial arts, the practice of striking, be it the hands or the body, should always include medicine to enhance the training and heal any damage done during. This area of Chinese medicine is called "dit da."
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
Sir, may I ask what style do you practice? If it is Japanese/Okinawan in origin you might want to buy a copy of (or ask your sensei about) "Bubishi", with regards to herbal preparations.
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
I heard that conditioning the bones increase the risk of bone cancer. What do you think of this? I often do bridge training, so it's a bit scary that i may have bone cancer if that's true.
19hlaci19 4 years ago
Repeated trauma to the bone has been linked to increased incident of bone cancer, however, proper conditioning is done gradually, and with Chinese martial arts generally, no conditioning regimen is complete without qigong and medicine (dit da).
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
Further, the necessity, possession and use of the medicine must match the intensity of the training; otherwise the results will be little-to-none. It's like the guy that buys a load of bodybuilding supplements but hardly trains. All he has is expensive urine.
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
OUCH! metal poles?? i'll stick with the forearms of my training brothers for now thank you! hehe.. this was at the SMAF eh? nice work
Dimmaknyc 4 years ago
i have a very dense bone structure so i might be able to bleed and sweat through it.i think i might have to get the sides from a one legged crane stance. i'll let you know how it turns out in a few months. many thanks to both of you . all knowledge is much appreciated.
thedaoofplus1 4 years ago
also is this excersise to be done shifting form horse stance to bow stance, or mainly just done from horse stance? again, thank you for your time.
thedaoofplus1 4 years ago
(jdangiel) thank you. i appreciate the teaching. when traing the lower leg, does one just train the front of the shin in your lineage or does one train all exposed sides of the tibia? thank you for your time.
thedaoofplus1 4 years ago
To address your other questions - 1. There is definitely a shift to bow side to side during the exercise. 2. The front of the shin is the only really useful part for fighting, and is the only part struck.
Try hitting the sides where they meet the calf muscle and report back how all those nerves reacted! (Hitting the front is bad enough!) Be strong!
jdangiel 4 years ago
LOL! That's what big brothers are for...
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
Let's keep in mind that:
1. We're seeing only the forearms. In good Southern practice, the shins are developed,too.
2. Open hand = a measure of relaxation or "releasing"
throughout the exercise. You build up SLOWLY over time. Build an iron bridge, not mutilate the forearms. THAT'S why you do it open-handed. Notice - connection to the waist- throws chi to the arm as it is being trained. Chi flows better through the more relaxed arm which equals safer, better development. Be strong Syracuse!!
jdangiel 4 years ago
With us we train it with the hand open for a number of reasons. First, to close the fist tightens the muscles around the bone and provides a little cushion, which we feel robs us of the benefit, which is to train the bone. Second, too much tension exposes the nerves to too much stimulation too early.
supyeekiusau 4 years ago
how do we deal with soreness in the elbow joint? i did 3-star for about 7-10 minutes with a senior and felt like my forearms were cracked and my elbows were separated. the dit da jow helped with bruising and some soreness but the joints are still a bit tender (even after a week)
Dimmaknyc 4 years ago
It shouldn't be sore. Sounds like you're hitting harder than you're ready for and the elbow joint is hyper extending. Not good. The forearm itself can get sore and bruised ( dit da jow helps here), but you shouldn't be experiencing soreness or trauma to the joints. A common point of many conditioning methods among many Chinese styles is that even at high intensity, they take care of your body, not damage it.
jdangiel 4 years ago
thanks for the tip.. i've recently been trying to lessen the impact intensity but prolong the training time.. this has helped considerably now so that i'm able to train harder more often rather than K.O.ing myself by overdoiing it all at once.
I also found that alternating my fighting and conditioning days helps to round out the training overall.
Dimmaknyc 4 years ago
do you percieve any difference in practicing this excersise with open vs a closed fist, or should one train doing both in your opinion.
thedaoofplus1 4 years ago