fire truck running hard on a red light and cross traffic

[SlickSpencer8live]

Here we go with the arguing and flame wars with the the nerdy fire guys! Facepalm. This video is a great example of why people shouldn't upload and put on YouTube cause it can get a lot of people in trouble....

[theoriginalca7erham]

I dig the hearse at the end

[sunstarfire]

What is the car at 0:32? A Mercury station wagon?

[thisisbullcrap101]

just like a lawyer chasing an ambulance.

[wattstarr911]

I see the hearse at the end of the tape....thats quick

[thisisbullcrap101]

m.v.a. = motor vehicle accident... have you been drinking?

[rocketman5989]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. U GOT CANCELLED? whats mva?

[thisisbullcrap101]

yup, i agree , i was not driver.

[jville533]

IT'S CALLED "DUE REGARD" Our state troopers W I L L ticket the driver of an emergency vehicle if they blow thru a stop sign or red light without slowing down and stopping if neccesary before proceeding and cause and accident... we ran on an accident just up the road from our station, B O T H of the troopers responding with red lights AND siren STOPPED at the stop sign next to our station before proceeding... 1 person life flighted and 3 transported by squads Again its D U E R E G A R D

[PvtDrifter]

@jville533 That is true in most states, but there are a few states that do not require a full stop or slowing down if the conditions are right (that would not apply to the situation of the video though).

[joek0617]

@jville533 he did slow down, if he hadn't, he would've hit that tanker there

[jville533]

I'm a fire fighter and also a professional truck driver, yes its hard to hear when your behind the wheel of a semi, B U T.... running red lights DOES NOT....DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT OF WAY at a red light or stop sign.....it's A S K I N G for the right of way. My fire chief would have that driver out from behind the wheel and in the backseats

[thisisbullcrap101]

@jville533 yup i concur,i was not driver.

[joek0617]

@thisisbullcrap101 even with right of way, you still need to be carefull....

[TheStormchaser1]

@joek0617 Emergency Vehicles do not have the right of way. They have to abide by the same laws as Motor Vehicles and still drive at a safe speed. What Emergency Vehicles do have is Common Curtosey where Emergency Vehicles yield to on-coming traffic when light is red.

[joek0617]

@TheStormchaser1 they do, what your saying is total bull, i have read the laws, and, at least where i live, you MUST yield to emergency vehicles if you can safely do so

[IAmzOd123]

@TheStormchaser1 Different states have different laws genius

[TheStormchaser1]

@IAmzOd123 I go by Federal Guidelines and not state or local.

[hahahahaha1hahahaha]

@TheStormchaser1 are you drunk?

[TheStormchaser1]

@hahahahaha1hahahaha Go join the police and fire department. You will find out majority of agencies and departments train you to drive at safe speeds and slow down at all intersections. Are you brain dead and stupid?

[hahahahaha1hahahaha]

@TheStormchaser1 I wish i could but im already taken by the U.S. Marines...

[TheStormchaser1]

@hahahahaha1hahahaha Then your on military bases. MPs and Base Fire Departments; watch them, they do not breeze through intersections and stop lights on a base.

I saw a fellow MA breeze through an intersection. I pulled him over and wrote him up a ticket. Got him for driving at an unsafe speed and reckless driving. Why? He almost hit a pedestrian.

[hahahahaha1hahahaha]

@TheStormchaser1 Ok i get what your saying BUT look at your comment you said "Emergency Vehicles do not have the right of way" Say if i was a Firefighter and you was in a car accident.. Would you want me to take my sweet time and and get there when i get there? or would you want me to come fast as i can to save your life? I must say the driving WAS unsafe but us Police men,Firefighters,Military will never forget the reason why we signed up,TO GIVE OUR TODAY FOR YOUR TOMORROW. Dont ever forget.

[TheStormchaser1]

@hahahahaha1hahahaha Go to the Military Police on your base. They will tell you they do not have right of way. It is called Common Courtesy. That is Federal Regulations. Stop signs they are supposed to stop common courtesy. Stop Lights were designed for MIRTS and EVPS so emergency vehicles has the right of way.

Federal regulation. 4 way stop sign there is an ambulance, police car, and firetruck all with lights and siren on, and the 4th vehicle is a US Postal Truck. Who has right of way?

[hahahahaha1hahahaha]

@TheStormchaser1 read number one and two...lrc.ky(DOT)gov/krs/189-0­0/930.PDF

[hahahahaha1hahahaha]

@TheStormchaser1 And adirondackdailyenterprise(DOT)­com/page/content(DOT)detail/id­/514257/Emergency-vehicles-hav­e-the-right-of-way-when-respon­ding .html?nav=5153

[TheStormchaser1]

@hahahahaha1hahahaha They changed the law. It used to be Common Courtesy. I do not keep up with laws anymore. After all I am retired. So I do not keep up with the idiotic lawmakers. Creating new laws, which all they want to do is fine people more money, with there Draconic measures.

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@TheStormchaser1 well that also depends on where you drive: In the US you often see fire trucks standing at intersection with the Q running hot and pulling the airhorn, and cross traffic still doesn't stop. Here we often can speed even through red traffic lights and over intersections without slowing down (of course we do slow down if needed). What I mean is that how FD/EMS/PD can drive depends also quite much on how average other people in that area react

[Z71Z28]

@jville533 who wants to be a pump man anyways?

[FalloutZombie2010]

@jville533 The only vehicle that does not have the right of way is a privatley owned, ambulance. Police and Firetrucks are Federal Vehicles and only if the Firetruck is not run by the town then it does not.

[joek0617]

@jville533 thats why Minnesota uses opticoms... no question about who has right of way

[AmericanNinja85]

@jville533

I am a Firefigther also i couldnt agree more ! Yes we are just asking for the Right away we dont legally have the right a way

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@AmericanNinja85 that's the difference from region to region and country to country: Here we do have the legal right of way when responding with lights and sirens (the driver can switch the siren off on his own responsibility)

[AmericanNinja85]

@EnjoyFirefighting I know it is a little different region to region but either way should still drive with due reguard and drive responslbly

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@AmericanNinja85 true. I have to say that we go both fast and safe: e.g. we can blast through red lights and intersection without slowing down, of course only when we see that cross traffic stopped. Also driving in the oncoming traffic lane is quite normal

[AmericanNinja85]

@EnjoyFirefighting

well we can run fast and safe also if we see the cross traffic has stopped but we still dont 1. because here its illegal and two we just slow down and yield anyways to be extra safe and if we just blast it we could get in a huge amount of trouble !

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@AmericanNinja85 I think if we stop at each intersection / red light, then we wouldn't be able to keep in the max. response time of 10 minutes - from one single station to any corner of the city. Of course if necessary we slow down, but I can't remember a single time where we came to a complete stop ^^

[AmericanNinja85]

@EnjoyFirefighting We dont make a complete stop either unless we see traffic isnt stoping we yield slow down look both ways Sound the Air Horn and continue on we dont have to make a complete stop as long as we do those things its good enough

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@AmericanNinja85 ahh okay. we just let the siren run and never use the horn. Well the martin horn is actually a two tone air horn. Works perfectly

[kunzy04]

Nice complete stop before proceeding. I love how they blow a red light, then get cancelled, that driver would probably feel pretty bad if he hurt someone doing that!

[24scrapman]

u hit that truck u woulda been sorry go boom. well burnt to crisp.

try doin that to me would like tol cut that rig up and poof where did it go

[jasonjagg]

all that to cancel?? boo

[JaredEtherton]

hate it when you get cancelled right when you get on the scene

[TheFonz2009]

Glad ya'll busted ass through that light, not to mention the tanker that you could have plowed into. No matter if you have a clear intersection or not at a red light you should always stop its called Due Regard and this driver should be cited for this video, if you wanna argue with that I will gladly show you what happens when you don't come to a complete stop at an intersection including a few lawsuits that happen to be floating around, screw your head on right and don't get "belltarded"

[Sodiumreactor]

@TheFonz2009 STFU. You dont stop at those lights, no one gives a shit about your lawsuits, you can get a lawsuit for looking at someone wrong these days. Lives are lost if they dont get where they are going. If some loser who wasnt paying attention has to get hurt every now and again to keep those lives safe, so be it.

[shadowr434]

@Sodiumreactor Clear that you have no idea what your talking about.If they struck another vehicle in the intersection and caused injury or death they would be at fault and would loose a law suit.Its happened before and the outcome is always the same.Emergency vehicles must stop at a red before continuing safely through.I was a engineer on a fire engine for a long time so I know what Im talking about.

[Sodiumreactor]

@shadowr434 your funny. Perhaps in the area you "were" (past tense) an engineer, what you say is true. But not where I am. They run lights on a daily basis, and I say, more power to them!

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@shadowr434 You mean you have to make a complete stop at a red light in the US? Here (in Europe) we actually can go over red lights without stopping (sometimes we don't even have to slow down very much).

Why should you have to stop when you already see then cross traffic stopped completly?

How is it in the US?

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@shadowr434 You mean you have to make a complete stop at a red light in the US? Here (in Europe) we actually can go over red lights without stopping (sometimes we don't even have to slow down very much).

Why should you have to stop when you already see then cross traffic stopped completly?

How is it in the US?

[ChrisBennett18]

@EnjoyFirefighting that isnt very true in the US. It depends on what intersection they need to slow down but not stop, just incase like idiots who are stupid to go when they hear and see a fire truck or ambulance go by people in america are just stupid

[ChrisBennett18]

@shadowr434 no sir emergency vehicles have the right of way if they are responding to a call thats why they have red light changers but the red light changers dont always work they need to slow to a red light not stop but people in america are very stupid and can win any law suit if they are not at fault

[ChrisBennett18]

@shadowr434 no sir emergency vehicles have the right of way if they are responding to a call thats why they have red light changers but the red light changers dont always work they need to slow to a red light not stop but people in america are very stupid and can win any law suit if they are not at fault or not

[shadowr434]

@ChrisBennett18 Have you driven a fire engine to a call in traffic? Yes you can go through lights if traffic is stopped all around however if you go through a light and kill a family in their car you will be held responsible.I was a fire fighter back before light changers however not all areas have them to this day and you have to use caution when going into an intersection.Go ask a police officer in your area what the law says if you dont believe me.

[ChrisBennett18]

@shadowr434 no i havent but no because in the United states its illegal to block an intersection and the person who in the way is at fault not moving out of the way so the family dies because they did something stupid like being in the middle of an intersection when they shouldnt people know better but they dont care, Emergency vehicles when their lights are on and sirens are on they have the right of way no matter where you are they always have the right of way for every emergency vehicles

[enginecomp69]

@Sodiumreactor

Probably the dumbest thing i have ever read in my life.

So someone gets hurt while responding to a call that the engine company ends up getting canceled on and you believe that is ok or needed? Seems to me you have no clue about the fire service.

[Sodiumreactor]

@enginecomp69 You name says it all

[TheFonz2009]

@Sodiumreactor What? Are you retarded? You don't stop at "those lights" and by "those lights" you mean red lights right? Cause if you pay attention to anything in this video the engineer totally blows the red light. The tanker driver was doing what he was supposed to, he was already completely into the intersection, of which he had the green, when the engine came to the light. May I also remind you that LIVES ARE LOST IF THEY NEVER GET WHERE THEY ARE GOING. Please get your head out of your ass.

[Sodiumreactor]

@TheFonz2009 shut up you pathetic loser. They did everything right your such a little bitch crying about Due Regard and your bullshit lawsuits. Here is my suggestion to you, GO FUCK YOURSELF lol

[defender195]

lol thats great bust right through an intersection Qsiren blaring and 2 seconds later "you can stay of the highway scene under control" ..... awwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!

[batmanmick]

In Australia we can pretty much do anything as long as it is "safe and expedient" if you have an accident then ir was neither.

[Wako098]

Ummmm the fire department, police department, ambulances, and other emergency vehicles can change the light from red to green and the other side from green to red. So why didn't they do this here?

[squallz13]

@Wako098

Both the lights and the vehicle require a sensor in order for this to work. The majority of lights do not have this sensor. Depends on the country, state, city, province.

[robertgift]

@Wako098  The Opticom system simply causes the signal to change. GREEN to YELLOW for 4 seconds, then RED. Very expensive so most intersections do not have it. Optical sensors may already be in place, even when there is no system.

Do any police vehicles have the emitter?

[BJEDWARDS427]

idiots

[burninggrou]

in the netherland it is a rule that all vehicles with sirenes en flashing lightes on, can NEVER cross a redlicht with a spead over 20 km an hour(thats 12 miles an hour?)

because the reaction of the other roadusers is not to be guessed, so you have to be ready to deal with any situation.

firefighter

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@burninggrou sure? When I see response vids from for example Amsterdam FD they run red lights with a "bit" more than 20 km/H

[Ginger6259]

was that a funeral at the end

[htijohnson]

Yes, that would have been bad. But the engine had a red light. When it comes to the law, the trucker isn't at fault. Now, would the engine have been in the intersection before the trucker, then yse, his fault.

[robertgift]

Not a close call. Engine could easily have stopped.  Remember, those trucks are now often well sound insulated, plus the noises of their own engines and possibly radio - it is difficult to hear sirens.

Also trucks had green signal. I can't fault the truckers.

[GUMMYBEAYUH]

@robertgift It's called paying attention, and it's something they teach you before getting a license. The trucker was dumb.

[robertgift]

@GUMMYBEAYUH Do you look both ways before proceeding through a GREEN signal? (Ifirst vehicle, I look.)

Trucks with sound-proofed cabs were already moving and with engines working hard accelerating, drivers did not hear the siren early.

Also, lots of emergency vehicles do not have lights coordinated to produce a greater light impulse.

Their many little blinkin lights don't attract gaze, especially in bright or hazy sun light.

[Tr2u1ck]

@GUMMYBEAYUH YOU try driving a 65-foot truck more than 100,000 miles then get back to me

[Vaneps0]

@GUMMYBEAYUH That "dumb" trucker put the computer under ur fat right hand and the cheetos in your left. Think about that next time you decide to make a stupid comment.

[ihope127]

If you actually want to be understood, I suggest that you add a bit more punctuation...

[mmmmna]

Locals have remote control over traffic lights...

[oxman0313]

that sucks to get called off a call at the last minute beter in the fire house then you dont have to stop your halo game

[hellfighter4135]

around chicago you have to make a full stop at red lights and stop signs even with lights and sirens or your ass is in huge trouble

[shfrfghtr]

yup, but in some southern suburbs we have opticoms so all lights that are equiped with certain equipment it will change in our favor so it makes our jobs a little bit easier (keywork:little) and a response time a little bit shorter.

[robertgift]

I have seen CFD commonly break that rule - which is fine with me. Easier on apparatus, shorter response time, they get through and out of the way of traffic so less disruption of traffic flow. If it can be done safely, I do not stop.

[merziedotes]

Another good one! Glad to hear from you. Will sure miss you guys. BTW, your house here in town is for sale again! You could always come back here!

[BGVAC31]

wow we got a online police here, everyone stay back, lol, dude like the guy who has this video said that it was an on ramp intersection, i am sure if i was a main intersection with cars flying by and shit they would have stopped or roll stopped, obivously i watched this many times and it looks fine and was'nt dangerous, especially for a on/off ramp of a highway.

[thisisbullcrap101]

i wasnt driving and im not saying i agree with the two up front, safety should always come first if you crash you cant help anyone at all.

[Amesz00]

having said that, if you cant notice a bright red fire truck with lights flashing, horn and sirens blazing, then you shouldn't be driving!

[THFD]

True.

[thisisbullcrap101]

by the way, this is an interstate off ramp,not a state route intersection, they are not going at a high rate of speed.

[fpstina]

the camera lens makes it look closer than it was...

[Rofocowboy84]

They didn't know they were getting cancelled until after they made it through the intersection....

[thisisbullcrap101]

thank you.

[Rofocowboy84]

No problem