hhahhahahah its obvious everyone is trying to steal our history the southern neighbors da bulgarians and even the albanians.. southern neighbors say everything ours is greek bulgarians say macedonian country is only 100 years old everything before was bulgaria LOL! albanians say alexander is albanian.... DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!! You three better think and make it more convincing.... so everybody will believe you! Only the sun is older than MACEDONIA thats why our flag is a sun loosers!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alexander the great spread the Bulgarian language to the known world, believed he was a descandant of Slav heroes Achilles and Heracles, worshipped Slavic poet Homer, and falls under Bulgarian philosophical concepts such Apotheosis. If this sounds ridiculous, it's only the logical conclusion to Slavicized central asians (meaning Bulgarians) claiming Alexander as their hero.
I cant believe how British National TV shows that crap proving they have no idea of history. The slavs inhibited the Balcans after 600 AD. Alexander (wow greek name speaking greek and spreading the greek culture) was born in 356 BC in Pella, do the maths period. Those ppl are slavs who like to think they are descendants of Alexander. Well done BBC
while the rest of the Balkan Peninsula was being Hellenized, Latinized, Slavofied, or Turkeytrotted, only Macedonians stayed Macedonians (despite being Slavofied, Turkeytrotted, Latinized, or even Hellenized).
The small Former Yugoslav republic , Knows that they are Slavs , and Alexander is Hellenic/Greek ,,,, this is why they want to Unite Macedonian ..to it's ancient glory .
then maybe , the whole world wouldn't realize that Slaves came in to the area 1000 Years after Alexander the Great .. and they have no Connection to the claim .
there are 3 million Greek Macedonians , that don't see a reason to unite with a Slavic country
while the rest of the Balkan Peninsula was being Hellenized, Latinized, Slavofied, or Turkeytrotted, only Macedonians stayed Macedonians (despite being Slavofied, Turkeytrotted, Latinized, or even Hellenized).
Cleopatra is NOT Macedonian (yes, you can hear even this in the Macedonian media).
etc.
Stop stealing other nations' history and creat your own. Stop blaiming everyone around you for all the problems you have. Instead of building shitty monuments for hundreds of euros, creat jobs, build roads, schools, hospitals. Skopie is not whole Macedonia. It's just a small part of it!
Greece should focus on REAL problems. Of course, they are right in that todays Macedonians should be referred to as Slavs, not as ancient Greeks. But nevertheless the teritorry of the contemporary Republic of Macedonia used to be part of ancient Macedonia, so why not use the same designation?
@BaumerPaulGefreiter By your logic all the areas of Alexander's conquest and all areas of coastal Mediterranian (greek colonies long before Alexander) should be designated today as Greece too. All the historical facts shows that ancient Macedons were Greek. Today's country of FYROM is located in the ancient lands of Paionia (later Dardania) which had nothing common with Macedonia. Fyromians are stealing everything from their neighbours in order tocreate their pseudoidentity
'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.' - former Prime Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski, 2007, in his book 'Facing the truth'
"The idea that Alexander the Great belongs to us was at the mind of some outsider groups only. These groups were insignificant in the first years of our independence. But the big problem is that the old Balkan nations have been learned to legitimize themselves through their history. In the Balkans to be recognized as a nation you need to have history of 2,000 to 3,000 years old. Since you (Greece ) forced us to invent a history, we did invent it.' - Denko Maleski
'We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek - ''Kiro Gligorov first President of FYROMToronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)
Prior to the creation of a Macedonian republic in 1944,most Macedonian immigrants viewed themselves as ethnically Bulgarian and often referred to themselves as Macedonian-Bulgarians or simply Bulgarians.While immigration records failed to list Macedonians as separate category,approximately three-quarters of those listed as Bulgarians were from the regions of Kostur and Bitola in Macedonia." - James R. Grossman, University of Chicago
Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. - Anthony D. Smith British Professor Emeritus of Nationalism and Ethnicity LSE, Nationalism and Modernism, 2003, Cambridge University
This is Illyrian(Albanian) and Hellenic(Greek) history.This story has nothing to do with the Slavs, the Macedonians of today are a community madeup of Serbs and Bulgarians, which means that they are pure Slavs, his mother had Alexander the Illyrian and father had Helen, it shows that he Ilir is half and half Hellen.
U.S-Secretary of State, STETTINUS been wrotte to his Goverment,since 1945.This Goverment considers talk of Makedonian "NATION"Macedonian "FATHERLAND" or Makedonian" CONSIOUSNESS" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ETHNIC nor Political REALITY and sees it's present revival a possible CLOAK for aggressive intentions AGAINST GREECE.-WE KNOW times are changing,but you have to wait for your ricochet.WE knows who BITES you first,second and the third.Greeks 'II demands 20% of History right
Alexander the Great became king of Macedonia when his father, Philip II was assassinated in 336 bc. He took immediate measures to quell insurrections, both at home and abroad establishing himself as a powerful Macedonian leader. Alexander led his Macedonian troops in campaigns against Athens, Egypt, Persian Empire successfully conquering all and ruling most of the classical known world he died in 323 bc at the age of 33. His a celebrated Macedonian militarian and tactical genius.
@MKDULTRA hahahaha IDIOTTT!!! You don't know history too.... Philip B' would like to be a big union all ancients polis in Greece... In his inscriptions there is one that says "ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ" which means that Macedonia is Greek too as other ancient polis.... Get learn some real history and stop confuse people here!!!!!!
@MrBillyver you must be a pushkar ;-/ come to your senses , the athenians can not brainwash you any further.. time to break the athenian spell and acknowledge your true ancestory.
If it wasnt for Aegean Macedonia (which athens occupies) what would Athens have ? Absolutely sweet f.a rocks and thats about it.
Greece is in Europe - & Greece is in crises ... Not we We are you're nightmare , your future ,we are the ones who will take part of Macedonian in Greece ... We are Macedonia --- Macedonia TIMELESS !!
@ForMacedonMacedonia 2.500.000 real Macedonians here in Greece has greek blood.. we are macedonians with greek soul... Your propaganda is over, you will not do something because we want to be part of Greece.. your plans about 2013 is a joke... Macedonia and Greece are one forever!! You must accept this and don't be in your fake world!
@ForMacedonMacedonia With your example the 40% of your country is Albanians, so they want to take part of your country in near future.. hahahahaha Be careful!!
@MKDULTRA Τhere is not Athenian oppression... There is a bad propaganda from you and you want to make bad feelings for Greeks.. You are not ethnic Macedonian this is your opinion only... I am a real ethnic Macedonian and i live in real Macedonia in ancient capital... Vergina-Aiges...
@MrBillyver Dont be so ignorant, get your head out of your ass, We Macedonians have and still experience this oppression, discrimination.. I am and always experience this first hand which is a bloody disgrace.
No point of hiding the truth, the truth must be voiced and you should be supporting us as this is unexceptable in the free and democratic world in the 21st century.
@MrBillyver You sound very confused which is evident in your remarks, on one hand you say you ethnic macedonian and then athenian ? Which one are you ? Or maybe your parents are 1 Macedonian and the other athenian.
I am born in Aegean Macedonia so I am authentic Macedonian.
@MKDULTRA You are confused... And idiot too.. I am Macedonian-Greek... It is the same as Athenian... Don't make people to be confused.. Your propaganda is over... MAcedonia is Hellenic (Greek)... Stop your bullshits.... If you want a new country with name of Macedonia go to Vardaska, it is fake but don't car about that... People like you are very dangerous....
@MKDULTRA "Ouranio toxo",the gypsyscopian political party in Greece is DEAD,last elections got only 4538 votes,ethnic gypsyscopians in Greece got from our three THE LONGEST ONE.
@MKDULTRA YOUR ,Grand parents were GypsySerbs and GypsyBulgars,Father-mother GypsySerboBulgars and you a GYPSYSKOPJIAN,a pure blood MAKENTONTSKIKO MPRE,you are a pure descendant of VUKEFALAS, MPRE.
@gampcptn hahahahahahahahahahahahah you are right... They have also their language their "macedonian' which is bulgarian.. xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
@MrBillyver Γειά σου πατριώτη.They know who really are,but they don't want to accept it,they are desperate wannabes Greek Macedonians with fucking propaganda and lies,with stolen history,symbols,idols heroes and statues from the Greek and Bulgarian heritage.So,do not try to explain them so much.Feed them only with bananas,give them the the bigger and longer banana you have.
@MKDULTRA Official history of FYROM counts only 20 years,since 1991 till now,thats your history and the only one worldwide accepted,all the others are bla-bla and bullshits,and by the way what a great history??Regarding tour CHRISTMAS TREE,as I said mama papa all Gypsy SerboBulgars.If you are shaming of them declare your self as an ALIEN from Mars.I don't care.
@MKDULTRA Regarding your race's relation with the Alexander the Great,as I mentioned It is worldwide known that you are descendants of his horse shits,the Vukefalas shits.Take the POULON (understood ?), and go to meet that shits,you and all of your bastard Gypsyscopjian race.
@gampcptn you are a delinquent, athenians didnt even know what bukefal was........ Your interbreeding has caused major deficiences which is evident with your non logical nonsense.
Stop your dribble and be proud of your christian turk bloodlines.
@MKDULTRA Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. - Anthony D. Smith British Professor Emeritus of Nationalism and Ethnicity LSE, Nationalism and Modernism, 2003, Cambridge University Press.
@MKDULTRA "Prior to the creation of a Macedonian republic in 1944,most Macedonian immigrants viewed themselves as ethnically Bulgarian and often referred to themselves as Macedonian-Bulgarians or simply Bulgarians.While immigration records failed to list Macedonians as separate category,approximately three-quarters of those listed as Bulgarians were from the regions of Kostur and Bitola in Macedonia." - James R. Grossman, University of Chicago
@MKDULTRA "FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Macedonian Greeks from the Hellenic, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Macedonian Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes." - The Greeks and their Heritage) AJ Toynbe
@MKDULTRA 'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
@MKDULTRA "We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" - Kiro Gligorov, FYROM's first President, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992
@gampcptn you are absolute delinquent, i do not associate or make time for morons like you. Your interbreeding has caused major deficiences which is evident with your non logical nonsense.
@MKDULTRA Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. - Anthony D. Smith British Professor Emeritus of Nationalism and Ethnicity LSE, Nationalism and Modernism, 2003, Cambridge University Press.
@MKDULTRA "FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Macedonian Greeks from the Hellenic, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Macedonian Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes." - The Greeks and their Heritage) AJ Toynbe
@MKDULTRA "Prior to the creation of a Macedonian republic in 1944,most Macedonian immigrants viewed themselves as ethnically Bulgarian and often referred to themselves as Macedonian-Bulgarians or simply Bulgarians.While immigration records failed to list Macedonians as separate category,approximately three-quarters of those listed as Bulgarians were from the regions of Kostur and Bitola in Macedonia." - James R. Grossman, University of Chicago
@MKDULTRA 'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
@MKDULTRA "We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" - Kiro Gligorov, FYROM's first President, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992
@MKDULTRA 'We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek - ''Kiro Gligorov first President of FYROMToronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)
@MKDULTRA "The idea that Alexander the Great belongs to us was at the mind of some outsider groups only. These groups were insignificant in the first years of our independence. But the big problem is that the old Balkan nations have been learned to legitimize themselves through their history. In the Balkans to be recognized as a nation you need to have history of 2,000 to 3,000 years old. Since you (Greece ) forced us to invent a history, we did invent it.' - Denko Maleski
@MKDULTRA 'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.' - former Prime Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski, 2007, in his book 'Facing the truth'
@MKDULTRA xaxaxaxa When somebody can't respond to real comments like Gligorov then he doesn't want to respond... Congratulations to this historical and real comment by first president of Vardarska(Skopje) "Fyrom".. You must accept this...
oh God i can't believe how BRAINWASHED IDIOT you are !!!!!!
do you even know what means the word ''bucephalas''??? i guess not
ajde learn stupid tatar
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Bucephalus or Bucephalas, Ancient Greek: Βουκέφαλος or Βουκεφάλας, from βούς bous, "ox" and κεφαλή kephalē, "head" meaning "ox-head") (c. 355 BC – June 326 BC) was Alexander the Great's horse and one of the most famous actual horses of antiquity
@MKDULTRA 'We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek - ''Kiro Gligorov first President of FYROMToronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)
@gampcptn you are completely incorrect, well that does not surprise anyone.. must be in the athentourko genes......... I can trace my family history for many generations and yes all were Macedonians.
@ForMacedonMacedonia ok but there is a big difference.. We are the real Macedonians and we desire the truth history here in real Macedonia.. You live in your fake world... with a big fake history! .....
A greek proverb says that he laughs better who laughs last... the only way to deal with liers is to despite them and go on.. Keep up your propaganda.. Everybody knows the truth, but you unfortunately don't want to accept it therefore there is this reaction from you..... Remember that the real Macedonia is here in Greek region.. The capital is still here and million visitors come to see the tomb of King of Macedonians Philip B, father of Great Alexander... Be funny with your great alexandrovski!
@ForMacedonMacedonia Thank God to be Greek, i have my country with a big history.. You have a fake creation with stolen history.... Without our money you can't buy something.. hahahahahahahahaha
hahaha the same Alexander statue is in Thessaloniki harbor for decades..... and now in 2011 these looser travellers got Soros's fraud money and build their own........ just because they woke up one morning and decided to be Makedonians...... cause they got sick of being nobodies that nobody gives a damn about....it's so simple and all the rest is bs :D
will Hell-ass decompose soon? or in 2013 after the end of the Bucharest Treaty? will this fake nation stay in the EU because of the high % of the gay population?
hehehe from YOUR MONEY??? OR THE MONEY WHICH EUROPEAN UNION GIVES YOU TO SURVIVE?:))) ALL OF YOU ARE BLIND AND DEAF :) if only ME,ALONE,CAN MANAGE TO GIVE YOU LESSONS,WHAT WOULD BE IF ALL MACEDONIANS ARE HERE:))
@coraddo280 yes from our money..... Tell people that every day greeks come to your country to buy because your country is under the limit of poverty... Tell people that in tolls you don't give rest of money in foreigners... hahaha!!!! Tell people that big Greek factories are there in your country and give job to you..... Vardarka's citizen!
Frustrated with the slow pace of implementation of budget overhauls in Greece, Germany is leading a push to force Athens to cede some control over its budget decisions to Europe, a move met by skepticism by European Union officials. you will die of hunger:)
Hell-ass take rest tomorrow.Have to strike in Monday again:)
yes,it's 100 euros,that's why hell-as is in bankruptcy.
and Def. Bankruptcy is a legal status of an insolvent person or an organisation, that is, one that cannot repay the debts owed to creditors. In most jurisdictions bankruptcy is imposed by a court order, often initiated by the debtor. its about Hell-ass:)
@coraddo280 Slav be silent, it is true that greece has to adjust its economy also true that greece suffer under poverty in the moment, but you are thieves you fabricate and boost with something that never will belongs you, our heritage our civilisation over thousand of years. the slavs like you came to south europe from asien the 6th century 1000 years after Alexander the Great spread the greek culture and Hellenismus until the Inder river.
Roman and Greek biographers, like Curtius Rufus, Polybius, Plutarch, Arrian, Diodorus, Justin and Herodotus described the ancient Macedonians as being a people quite distinct and separate from the ancient Greeks.
To them, ancient Macedonians constituted people, and a nation quite separate, and in stark contrast, to the Greeks. They militarily subdued the Greeks and subsequently treated them as conquered people; albeit more favorably then the rest of the people in the empire, but conquered subject they were, nevertheless.
will you come to Macedonia of the police stop your bus and tell to remove the registration plates? will you come to Macedonia,if the police uniformed and ununiformed advice you to not come? Will you come to Macedonia if TV crew are not allowed to record the traditional Macedonian dances in Lerin,Voden and Kukush? So,do not tell me why? I told you,read the police records,find them in the National Archives,and I'm not from Skopje,maybe you are from Athens.I'm Macedonian from Macedonia.Macedonia.
@coraddo280 ΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑ you are a BIG LIER.... Very BIG LIER!!!!!! You try to creat bad opinions about Greece and the real Macedonia here in greek region.. Tell people who are watching these comments the truth.. Tell them that every summer thousands Skopjians from your country goes to Chalkidiki for their vacations.. Tell that in Thessaloniki there are many cars that comes from Skopjie free with no restrictions... I told you again only students don't come to Vergina-Aiges..
@coraddo280 Maybe you don't let them to know the real history.... Also, you didn't answer to my questions yet... Do you know Philip B'??? Why his ancients inscriptions are in ancient greek language?? Another time that you triviliaze yourself! Also i told you that i am a real Macedonian from real Macedonia near the tomb of Philip B'.. In Vergina... You can't tell me lies because i see the real history every day....
ok.let me explain to you once more.regarding Pella and the rest of the Macedonian STOLEN HERITAGE.at the beginning thought you are smarter,but I got disappointed.Never mind,Repetitio Est Mater Studiorum-France stole huge amount of the Egyptian history,they are in French museums,Spain stole lots of it from South American civilisations,UK from the rest of the World.Hell-ass occupate the Egean part of Macedonia,changed the names of the towns and villages.need more explanation?
@coraddo280 Unfortunately you couldn't answer to my questions.. It was very difficult to prove something different from facts that i saw with my eyes... I suggest you another time to come in Vergina to see the tomb of King of Macedonians Philip B'.. All the ancient inscriptions in his tomb are in ancient greek language... Let me think ancient macedonians stole your history... hahaha Your knowledge's level is very low and the only think you can do is to copy paste archives...
@coraddo280 ...but you present them as you want.... Please answer to my questions with real facts.. Why skopjian students doesn't come to ancient capital of Macedonia, Vergina?? They learn only about your great alexandrovski and not the real Macedonian Great Alexander who was from the real Macedonia here in greek region... Stop it, you are callow and you don't know the real history... Don't trivialize continuously..
Thier heroes???LOL.LOL.Last time i looked Pella is in Greece,,Macedonia Greece not this former Yugoslavian shithole called FYROM.These news idiots have no clue in what they reporte..Titla fucking ignorance..Alexander the Great was not from FYROM.Alexander the Great was from Greece.SKPOJA the new Disney Land theme park of Greek civilizations..LOL.LOL.WHAT A JOKE
You know what's really funny? You build all those new 21st century statues of Alexander with slavic writings on em...Well you know what? Alexander COULDN'T EVEN READ THAT SHIT written bellow his feet, cause he spoke/wrote Greek.The slavic language didnt even exist back then. But yea, keep having those lovely Alexander parades...and build more statues while you are at it, they will surely look like historical evidence in about a billion years with all your propaganda. And then hell freezes over.
its not point to run out,but to see the other side has brain or is thinking of having brain.in your case,you are far from it.I'm giving you FACTS about your phony nation and country,you say I have pig's nose.I give you FACTS about the hellenic massacres in Egean Macedonia,you say something third.
@coraddo280 fake facts man...You told history as you want.. Let's ask you something, why name of Great Alexander is the same as greek name of Alexandros? Philip as greek name of Phillipos and not Alexandrovski and Phillipovski? xaxaxa Something else because maybe you didn't come to Vergina-Aiges to see the ancients words in tomb o King of Macedonia Phillip B'.Why are they in ancient greek language?I wish you don't be a teacher, it's a pity for your students to learn fake history...
@coraddo280 And something more.. Vergina has many tourists... Especially students from other countries.. All balkan students has visited the ancient capital of Macedonia (real not your fake), Bulgarian, Romanian, Serbian, also Russian and furthermore Albanian.... BUT NOT students from Skopje, Vardarska which is your country... Why? Maybe you are one of them that learn fake history to his children.. Shame on you...
There is only one Macedonian region. It must be the region containing the following= Vergina, Thessaloniki, Pella, Mount Olympus, and of coarse must spread Hellenism! Therefore there can only be one Macedonian region, the one from the beginning of time to today. If you want it come get it!
well hellasky,I'm not that kind of MACEDONIAN who will say,yes you are right.you are WRONG.make DNA analisys,discover your sub-saharian origin.Don't you see,all hellens like you are ugly,big nose and fat.Alexarad Makedonski was blond with blue eyes,only inhabitants of hell-ass are the russian girls who got imported,'cause your wifes are that ugly.
Alexander addressing the dead Thebans and Athenians after the battle of Chaeronia: "Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought brother people, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad brothers if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
Serbs knew it is impossible to make the people of FYROM Serbs, therefore they remembered the words of the Serbian scholar Stojan Novakovic who had said that the only way to separate FYROM's territory from Bulgaria was to create a new nation. Novakovic had seen such nation in the Macedonism.
As a result, the Macedonian nation was invented by stealing Greek and Bulgarian history and historical persons such as Alexander the Great and Tsar Samuil. The local dialect was introduced as a separate language from the Bulgarian and a new nation was born - the Macedonian one. Generations passed, people learned the fake Macedonian history and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
“The analysis of the data has showed that residents of FYROM have the most similar DNA with Bulgarians and Serbs, Croats with Bosnian and Serbian population while Kosovo Albanians have the fewest similarities with the others,” says Forensics Medicine Institute’s Dr Zlatko Jakovski from Skopje
CONC : Residents of FYROM are Slavs and there isn’t any DNA any connection with Alexander’s Macedonians ( 1000 years before Slavs)
30,000 from the Aegean part of Macedonia now under Greek control.Included among them was the population from the city Kukush and surrounding villages.On August 2nd, 1913 the Greek army burned down the city Kukush and destroyed 40 villages. (7) During this destruction the Greek army also bombed the orphanage, the school for orphans and the residence of the matrons who looked after the orphans.
The Commission established that the population of the occupied lands “by tradition, instinct and by experience knows what to expect from the armies…and does not wait for them…” This means that for the armies to carry out the “extermination” as ordered, they would need to burn down all the buildings in the populated areas which would result in a massive exodus of the population. This was the case in Macedonia where around 50,000 people were driven out of their homes
The purpose of military conflict, as stated further in the report, is “complete annihilation of the enemy population”. (5) The villages and cities are not only seized but in many cases they are destroyed. Their residents who had the misfortune of not having fled are driven out of their homes and their houses are burned to the ground. The pillaged and homeless population has no choice but to leave its birthplace and never return. This is one of the characteristics of the Balkan Wars.
thus leaving the Greek army to enter and occupy the unprotected space. And this is how the Greeks took the cities Kukush, Gevgelia, Dojran and Strumitsa and caused their destruction.pon its invasion of the region the Greek army perpetrated unbelievable massacres against the Macedonian population with the destruction and burning of the cities and villages. The Greek terror was so severe that it prompted an investigation from the Carnegie Endowment Inquiry for International Peace.
ince the beginning of the Balkan Wars the Greek army grew in strength: it was numerically superior (with around 100,000 soldiers) compared to the Bulgarian army and morally stronger because it was led by the king, Constantine himself. This region at the time was under the influence of the Second Bulgarian Army under the command of General Ivanov. But after suffering a defeat at Lahna, Kukush and Dojran, the Bulgarian army retreated towards the River Struma and the Rodopi Mountains,
@coraddo280 so you are saying that the "macedonian " army was the Bulgarian army ?
you are correct .. as they were NO ethnic Macedonians back then .
there was a war , you lost , get over it . this has happend to much of Greece's land , but you don't see us crying like little FYROMonkey Bulgarians turned in to Macedonians by tito .
The atrocities that took place in Kukush and the surrounding villages nearly a century ago, even today, leave us horrified. And that, in the mind of every normal person, pacifist by conviction or not, who has happened to learn about the fate of the people of Kukush, underscores in our minds the idea that such horrors must never be repeated again.
The Macedonian people, during the course of their long history, have experienced many wars, suffering, organized persecutions and massacres. At the beginning of the last century, during the First and especially during the Second Balkan War, the Greek army conducted organized persecutions and massacres against the Macedonian population in the southeastern part of Macedonia, particularly in the Kukush and Demir-Hisar Regions.
FYROMians are bulgarians, Macedonia is greek !!! stop stealing history and identity.... Bulgaria and Greece will never allow you to join EU or NATO !!!! brainwashed idiots..
thought you are smarter,but if I many times repeat to any person that something is white,and same that person say ,its black...very sad for you. Yes,I know my history,our history its not fabricated like yours.If I like common man,without any school can give you all that facts.What could happen if I was university professor? not because I give up,just have other problems apart of showing you the correct side of the truth.
@coraddo280 My country is a big union. it's name is Hellas and is apart from regions.. One of them is the real Macedonia... Come onn learn history first and then write something..... I am the real macedonian and you are from Bardarska
please,without any extra power.do not hurt yourself.helenic country is already deeply hurted,economicaly,socialy,asking for help every second day...do not use force:)
@coraddo280 Yeah i was ready to saw something that from you... Look something, we have still money.... Bardarska whic is your real name of your country is still alive from our money..... All greeks buy from you beacause your salary is 100 euros which is our salary for 1/4 of a month.. hahahahahahahahah
if you occupate a territory,and expel the inhabitants and take all their houses and fields,and use their grand grandfathers land,and bring from the Turkish border other people,how you call that?
Ask and search in your archives,in Athens and Solun(Thessaloniki) about the special law,after the Civil War in Hellas,in order to expel Macedonains from that region,after thay had to go to Russia,Czechoslovakia,Poland...Ask and search in your archives about the ethnic cleansing.
half of the Egypt is in France,in many museums around the World.The Egypt is still there.Egyptians are still there.So,Mr.Billyver,answer to me,how many wars we had on the Balkan Peninsula? How many armies and soldiers stole from the different museums? Even today,around the Wold if you have money,can buy artefacts from any country,and to make museum.Very simple.With the Balkan wars,part of Macedonia was connected to Hellas,in any location you could dig,and discover any statues.
@coraddo280 Hahaha hey man you forgot something we didn't stole something... The tomb of Philip B the father of Great Alexander was here in real macedonia all over these years... So, Manolis Andronikos found it.... Don't tell lies in people's eyes..... hahahahahah You make the history as you want not as it is in reality....
Kiro Gligorov:'We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century (AD) we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.A man who had several assassination attempts made against him to keep him silent by Skopian extremists, died at age 94,a sad day for a man that knew the truth, sadly the Fyromians keep getting fed propoganda by Gruevski..from scandinavia!
[1912-13] Greece, Serbia, and Bulgaria join forces, and with the help of 100,000 Macedonians defeat the Turkish army in Macedonia. Macedonia is denied independence and the Treaty of Bucharest (August 1913) partitions the country between Greece, Serbia, and Bulgaria. Greece takes the biggest, southern half of Macedonia (Aegean Macedonia) and renames it to "Northern Greece”. SOLUN is MACEDONIAN.NO THESSALONIKI
@coraddo280 The only answer is the first one with the most positive votes up... So don't try to prove something... I am a real macedonian from real macedonia land near the ancient capital.. Vergina or Aiges you know... I would be very glad to come and see the real history in our museum with all findings by Manolis Andronikos.....
[976-1018] With the weakening of the Byzantine Empire, the Macedonian Slavs rebel against Bulgarian authority and under Tsar Samuel create a strong Macedonian Slav medieval kingdom with its center at Ohrid. Samuel expanded his kingdom conquering parts of Greece, Epirus, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Dalmacia, but is defeated by the Byzantine emperor Basil II the Macedonian in 1014. By 1018 his empire is retaken by Byzantium.
[First half 10th century] The Bogomil teaching appears in Macedonia and grows into a large-scale popular movement that spreads through the Balkans and Europe.
[867-1025] Basil I the Macedonian (867-886) is the first Macedonian to become a Byzantine emperor, founder of the Macedonian dynasty. The empire reaches its zenith in a period known as the ‘Golden Age’, while ruled by the Macedonian Dynasty from 867 to 1025.
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hhahhahahah its obvious everyone is trying to steal our history the southern neighbors da bulgarians and even the albanians.. southern neighbors say everything ours is greek bulgarians say macedonian country is only 100 years old everything before was bulgaria LOL! albanians say alexander is albanian.... DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!! You three better think and make it more convincing.... so everybody will believe you! Only the sun is older than MACEDONIA thats why our flag is a sun loosers!!!!!!!!!!!!
FireMaster12100 10 hours ago
Alexander the great spread the Bulgarian language to the known world, believed he was a descandant of Slav heroes Achilles and Heracles, worshipped Slavic poet Homer, and falls under Bulgarian philosophical concepts such Apotheosis. If this sounds ridiculous, it's only the logical conclusion to Slavicized central asians (meaning Bulgarians) claiming Alexander as their hero.
Yanitsaros 2 days ago
Ethnic bulgars in DENIAL want to be Greeks...Want to be macedonians!
tzakos1982 3 days ago
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viva la Macedonia!
viva Aleksandar!
Aleksandar is not greek!
:-)
milefrenki 1 week ago
I cant believe how British National TV shows that crap proving they have no idea of history. The slavs inhibited the Balcans after 600 AD. Alexander (wow greek name speaking greek and spreading the greek culture) was born in 356 BC in Pella, do the maths period. Those ppl are slavs who like to think they are descendants of Alexander. Well done BBC
angelinio1975 1 week ago
Macedonia is Greek
Keep crying monkey fyromians
c0mmando96 1 week ago
Alexandar is NOT Grrrrreek :-)
Aleksandar=MACEDONIA!
milefrenki 1 week ago
@milefrenki His name was Alexander -> ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ as we talked about.. Not Alexandar!!! Alexandar is a bulgarian word.
MrBillyver 1 week ago
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while the rest of the Balkan Peninsula was being Hellenized, Latinized, Slavofied, or Turkeytrotted, only Macedonians stayed Macedonians (despite being Slavofied, Turkeytrotted, Latinized, or even Hellenized).
FYROMONKEYDONJi Logic
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FYROBABOONSKA1 1 week ago
The small Former Yugoslav republic , Knows that they are Slavs , and Alexander is Hellenic/Greek ,,,, this is why they want to Unite Macedonian ..to it's ancient glory .
then maybe , the whole world wouldn't realize that Slaves came in to the area 1000 Years after Alexander the Great .. and they have no Connection to the claim .
there are 3 million Greek Macedonians , that don't see a reason to unite with a Slavic country
with false claims .
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while the rest of the Balkan Peninsula was being Hellenized, Latinized, Slavofied, or Turkeytrotted, only Macedonians stayed Macedonians (despite being Slavofied, Turkeytrotted, Latinized, or even Hellenized).
FYROMONKEYDONJi Logic
FYROMSKI 1 week ago
Alexander The Great is NOT Macedonian.
Tzar Samuil is NOT Macedonian.
Saints Cyril and Methodius are NOT Macedonian.
Cleopatra is NOT Macedonian (yes, you can hear even this in the Macedonian media).
etc.
Stop stealing other nations' history and creat your own. Stop blaiming everyone around you for all the problems you have. Instead of building shitty monuments for hundreds of euros, creat jobs, build roads, schools, hospitals. Skopie is not whole Macedonia. It's just a small part of it!
rbaleksandar 2 weeks ago
@rbaleksandar fatous re patrida !
FYROBABOONSKA1 2 weeks ago
@rbaleksandar PIGAINE NA FAS TIN KREMA SU REEEEE!
able09christina 2 weeks ago
FYROM and FYROMIANS foreva
biggordana69 2 weeks ago
Greece should focus on REAL problems. Of course, they are right in that todays Macedonians should be referred to as Slavs, not as ancient Greeks. But nevertheless the teritorry of the contemporary Republic of Macedonia used to be part of ancient Macedonia, so why not use the same designation?
BaumerPaulGefreiter 2 weeks ago
@BaumerPaulGefreiter By your logic all the areas of Alexander's conquest and all areas of coastal Mediterranian (greek colonies long before Alexander) should be designated today as Greece too. All the historical facts shows that ancient Macedons were Greek. Today's country of FYROM is located in the ancient lands of Paionia (later Dardania) which had nothing common with Macedonia. Fyromians are stealing everything from their neighbours in order tocreate their pseudoidentity
PhobosRevenge 2 weeks ago
FYROMians DO you think if you spam the truth , it will go away ?
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'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.' - former Prime Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski, 2007, in his book 'Facing the truth'
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"The idea that Alexander the Great belongs to us was at the mind of some outsider groups only. These groups were insignificant in the first years of our independence. But the big problem is that the old Balkan nations have been learned to legitimize themselves through their history. In the Balkans to be recognized as a nation you need to have history of 2,000 to 3,000 years old. Since you (Greece ) forced us to invent a history, we did invent it.' - Denko Maleski
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'We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek - ''Kiro Gligorov first President of FYROMToronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)
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Prior to the creation of a Macedonian republic in 1944,most Macedonian immigrants viewed themselves as ethnically Bulgarian and often referred to themselves as Macedonian-Bulgarians or simply Bulgarians.While immigration records failed to list Macedonians as separate category,approximately three-quarters of those listed as Bulgarians were from the regions of Kostur and Bitola in Macedonia." - James R. Grossman, University of Chicago
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Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. - Anthony D. Smith British Professor Emeritus of Nationalism and Ethnicity LSE, Nationalism and Modernism, 2003, Cambridge University
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This is Illyrian(Albanian) and Hellenic(Greek) history.This story has nothing to do with the Slavs, the Macedonians of today are a community madeup of Serbs and Bulgarians, which means that they are pure Slavs, his mother had Alexander the Illyrian and father had Helen, it shows that he Ilir is half and half Hellen.
alijablerim 2 weeks ago
U.S-Secretary of State, STETTINUS been wrotte to his Goverment,since 1945.This Goverment considers talk of Makedonian "NATION"Macedonian "FATHERLAND" or Makedonian" CONSIOUSNESS" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ETHNIC nor Political REALITY and sees it's present revival a possible CLOAK for aggressive intentions AGAINST GREECE.-WE KNOW times are changing,but you have to wait for your ricochet.WE knows who BITES you first,second and the third.Greeks 'II demands 20% of History right
pyraixmhs 2 weeks ago
There are so many obsessed gayreeks with macedonian history! :)
HeartForMacedonia 2 weeks ago
@HeartForMacedonia Νο they are so many gypsies like you with no history that stole from others to make fake country...
MrBillyver 2 weeks ago 13
@MrBillyver
The cock told to the donkey; "dickhead"
uoitofsogroj 2 weeks ago
alexander the great are 3/4 illyrian
epiri1 3 weeks ago
One thing for everyone
Fuc Bulgaria - Fuc Greece
everyone know we are Exist and will ---- Macedonia Timeless ;)
ForMacedonMacedonia 3 weeks ago
Alexander the Great became king of Macedonia when his father, Philip II was assassinated in 336 bc. He took immediate measures to quell insurrections, both at home and abroad establishing himself as a powerful Macedonian leader. Alexander led his Macedonian troops in campaigns against Athens, Egypt, Persian Empire successfully conquering all and ruling most of the classical known world he died in 323 bc at the age of 33. His a celebrated Macedonian militarian and tactical genius.
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA hahahaha IDIOTTT!!! You don't know history too.... Philip B' would like to be a big union all ancients polis in Greece... In his inscriptions there is one that says "ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ" which means that Macedonia is Greek too as other ancient polis.... Get learn some real history and stop confuse people here!!!!!!
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
@MrBillyver you must be a pushkar ;-/ come to your senses , the athenians can not brainwash you any further.. time to break the athenian spell and acknowledge your true ancestory.
If it wasnt for Aegean Macedonia (which athens occupies) what would Athens have ? Absolutely sweet f.a rocks and thats about it.
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
Greece is in Europe - & Greece is in crises ... Not we We are you're nightmare , your future ,we are the ones who will take part of Macedonian in Greece ... We are Macedonia --- Macedonia TIMELESS !!
ForMacedonMacedonia 3 weeks ago
@ForMacedonMacedonia Run Fyrombulgarian run,an ANALalbanian is just behind of your monkey ass,run fyromonkey run.
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@ForMacedonMacedonia 2.500.000 real Macedonians here in Greece has greek blood.. we are macedonians with greek soul... Your propaganda is over, you will not do something because we want to be part of Greece.. your plans about 2013 is a joke... Macedonia and Greece are one forever!! You must accept this and don't be in your fake world!
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago 9
@MrBillyver hahahahaha
fucking gayreeks
drumercoka 2 weeks ago
@drumercoka Only this you can say... Because you don't learn something else... hahahaha Are you gypsy?
MrBillyver 2 weeks ago
@ForMacedonMacedonia With your example the 40% of your country is Albanians, so they want to take part of your country in near future.. hahahahaha Be careful!!
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
what meen yugoslavia - На мајка ти ПИЧКА ТАааааааа
Nasago miso a popiso !!!! :@@@@@@ MACEDONIA - TIMELESS
ForMacedonMacedonia 3 weeks ago
what mean yugoslavia ?
constantinoshellas 3 weeks ago
That is Macedonian Disneyland.
SuperDetelin 3 weeks ago
Beautiful Macedonian Statue Of the almighty Aleksandar The Macedonian Great
Greetings From Macedonian Heartland Solun Aegean Macedonia
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA Aleksandar?? xaxaxaxaxaxa It is Macedonian language that or Bulgarian? xaxaxaxaxaxa ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ is the correct name of Great Alexander.....
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
@MrBillyver Yeah you know very well , Alexander The Great Macedonian :-)
Dali si ti Makedonec ? I am a ethnic Macedonian now living in Athens
The Athenian oppression can not surpress the Macedonian consciousness
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA Τhere is not Athenian oppression... There is a bad propaganda from you and you want to make bad feelings for Greeks.. You are not ethnic Macedonian this is your opinion only... I am a real ethnic Macedonian and i live in real Macedonia in ancient capital... Vergina-Aiges...
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
@MrBillyver Dont be so ignorant, get your head out of your ass, We Macedonians have and still experience this oppression, discrimination.. I am and always experience this first hand which is a bloody disgrace.
No point of hiding the truth, the truth must be voiced and you should be supporting us as this is unexceptable in the free and democratic world in the 21st century.
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
@MrBillyver You sound very confused which is evident in your remarks, on one hand you say you ethnic macedonian and then athenian ? Which one are you ? Or maybe your parents are 1 Macedonian and the other athenian.
I am born in Aegean Macedonia so I am authentic Macedonian.
Pozdrav
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA You are confused... And idiot too.. I am Macedonian-Greek... It is the same as Athenian... Don't make people to be confused.. Your propaganda is over... MAcedonia is Hellenic (Greek)... Stop your bullshits.... If you want a new country with name of Macedonia go to Vardaska, it is fake but don't car about that... People like you are very dangerous....
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA REALY WICH PART OF IT YOU HAVE BORN OR YOU HAVE BORN IN PELAGONIA OR IN GORRTINIA
DALAMYIAN 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA "Ouranio toxo",the gypsyscopian political party in Greece is DEAD,last elections got only 4538 votes,ethnic gypsyscopians in Greece got from our three THE LONGEST ONE.
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ=ΕΛΛΑΣ
ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ=ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΒΑΣΙΛΙΑΣ ΤΗΣ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΣ
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@gampcptn lmao you inbred athenianturkoaranvitevlach embrace your bastardized bloodlines
Севернa Атина е Македонија
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA YOUR ,Grand parents were GypsySerbs and GypsyBulgars,Father-mother GypsySerboBulgars and you a GYPSYSKOPJIAN,a pure blood MAKENTONTSKIKO MPRE,you are a pure descendant of VUKEFALAS, MPRE.
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@gampcptn hahahahahahahahahahahahah you are right... They have also their language their "macedonian' which is bulgarian.. xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
@MrBillyver Γειά σου πατριώτη.They know who really are,but they don't want to accept it,they are desperate wannabes Greek Macedonians with fucking propaganda and lies,with stolen history,symbols,idols heroes and statues from the Greek and Bulgarian heritage.So,do not try to explain them so much.Feed them only with bananas,give them the the bigger and longer banana you have.
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@gampcptn very well summed up, these athenians need to get their own history and stop asserting , falsifying others.
Thats what happens when you dont have any genuine past which you can not reflect on.
Back to asia minor for you athentourkos.
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA Official history of FYROM counts only 20 years,since 1991 till now,thats your history and the only one worldwide accepted,all the others are bla-bla and bullshits,and by the way what a great history??Regarding tour CHRISTMAS TREE,as I said mama papa all Gypsy SerboBulgars.If you are shaming of them declare your self as an ALIEN from Mars.I don't care.
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA Regarding your race's relation with the Alexander the Great,as I mentioned It is worldwide known that you are descendants of his horse shits,the Vukefalas shits.Take the POULON (understood ?), and go to meet that shits,you and all of your bastard Gypsyscopjian race.
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@gampcptn you are a delinquent, athenians didnt even know what bukefal was........ Your interbreeding has caused major deficiences which is evident with your non logical nonsense.
Stop your dribble and be proud of your christian turk bloodlines.
Do not post anymore budala.
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. - Anthony D. Smith British Professor Emeritus of Nationalism and Ethnicity LSE, Nationalism and Modernism, 2003, Cambridge University Press.
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@MKDULTRA "Prior to the creation of a Macedonian republic in 1944,most Macedonian immigrants viewed themselves as ethnically Bulgarian and often referred to themselves as Macedonian-Bulgarians or simply Bulgarians.While immigration records failed to list Macedonians as separate category,approximately three-quarters of those listed as Bulgarians were from the regions of Kostur and Bitola in Macedonia." - James R. Grossman, University of Chicago
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@MKDULTRA "FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Macedonian Greeks from the Hellenic, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Macedonian Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes." - The Greeks and their Heritage) AJ Toynbe
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA 'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA "We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" - Kiro Gligorov, FYROM's first President, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA I like to screw the gypsies by two different ways.As gypsyscopjians and as Fyromonkeys
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gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@gampcptn you are absolute delinquent, i do not associate or make time for morons like you. Your interbreeding has caused major deficiences which is evident with your non logical nonsense.
cao and goodriddance hellarse imbecile.
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
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gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA "FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Macedonian Greeks from the Hellenic, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Macedonian Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes." - The Greeks and their Heritage) AJ Toynbe
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA "Prior to the creation of a Macedonian republic in 1944,most Macedonian immigrants viewed themselves as ethnically Bulgarian and often referred to themselves as Macedonian-Bulgarians or simply Bulgarians.While immigration records failed to list Macedonians as separate category,approximately three-quarters of those listed as Bulgarians were from the regions of Kostur and Bitola in Macedonia." - James R. Grossman, University of Chicago
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA 'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA "We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" - Kiro Gligorov, FYROM's first President, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA 'We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek - ''Kiro Gligorov first President of FYROMToronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA "The idea that Alexander the Great belongs to us was at the mind of some outsider groups only. These groups were insignificant in the first years of our independence. But the big problem is that the old Balkan nations have been learned to legitimize themselves through their history. In the Balkans to be recognized as a nation you need to have history of 2,000 to 3,000 years old. Since you (Greece ) forced us to invent a history, we did invent it.' - Denko Maleski
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA 'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.' - former Prime Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski, 2007, in his book 'Facing the truth'
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA Hi Vukefalovskis' shits descendant,I have a job to do,I am out,cu.
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA xaxaxaxa When somebody can't respond to real comments like Gligorov then he doesn't want to respond... Congratulations to this historical and real comment by first president of Vardarska(Skopje) "Fyrom".. You must accept this...
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
@MKDULTRA To many I agree and I have more and more if you want,but i like and this one,my favorite one "HEY VUKEFALOVFSKIS'S SHITS DESCENDANTS"
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
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oh God i can't believe how BRAINWASHED IDIOT you are !!!!!!
do you even know what means the word ''bucephalas''??? i guess not
ajde learn stupid tatar
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Bucephalus or Bucephalas, Ancient Greek: Βουκέφαλος or Βουκεφάλας, from βούς bous, "ox" and κεφαλή kephalē, "head" meaning "ox-head") (c. 355 BC – June 326 BC) was Alexander the Great's horse and one of the most famous actual horses of antiquity
Bellegr 3 weeks ago
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@MKDULTRA 'We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek - ''Kiro Gligorov first President of FYROMToronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@gampcptn you are completely incorrect, well that does not surprise anyone.. must be in the athentourko genes......... I can trace my family history for many generations and yes all were Macedonians.
As for you profiga back to asian minor
MKDULTRA 3 weeks ago
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Write how you want..... History and facts do not change
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without the words you must to know this -> Macedonia Timeless ♥ !!!
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ForMacedonMacedonia 3 weeks ago
Write how you want..... History and facts do not change
without the words you must to know this -> Macedonia Timeless ♥ !!!
ForMacedonMacedonia 3 weeks ago
@ForMacedonMacedonia ok but there is a big difference.. We are the real Macedonians and we desire the truth history here in real Macedonia.. You live in your fake world... with a big fake history! .....
MrBillyver 3 weeks ago
This is a very superficial and populist report from the journalist.
John188812 3 weeks ago
These retard Slavs of Skopje are dumb and brainwashed.
MrNMT69 4 weeks ago
A greek proverb says that he laughs better who laughs last... the only way to deal with liers is to despite them and go on.. Keep up your propaganda.. Everybody knows the truth, but you unfortunately don't want to accept it therefore there is this reaction from you..... Remember that the real Macedonia is here in Greek region.. The capital is still here and million visitors come to see the tomb of King of Macedonians Philip B, father of Great Alexander... Be funny with your great alexandrovski!
MrBillyver 1 month ago
Greece is in European Union ----- Greece is in crisis & don't have many ---- Greece will go in Bankrupt .... Hahahahah
Macedonia is Greece's dream ..... [[[ All you know of other states ]]] --- GREECE crisis
collapsed -- Macedonian people by house, buildings ,islands We Will By Greece all how to know
ForMacedonMacedonia 1 month ago
@ForMacedonMacedonia Thank God to be Greek, i have my country with a big history.. You have a fake creation with stolen history.... Without our money you can't buy something.. hahahahahahahahaha
MrBillyver 1 month ago
hahaha the same Alexander statue is in Thessaloniki harbor for decades..... and now in 2011 these looser travellers got Soros's fraud money and build their own........ just because they woke up one morning and decided to be Makedonians...... cause they got sick of being nobodies that nobody gives a damn about....it's so simple and all the rest is bs :D
Paparunas21 1 month ago
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you are so stupid! with every comment you have to watch this clip.to look into MACEDONIA!
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will Hell-ass decompose soon? or in 2013 after the end of the Bucharest Treaty? will this fake nation stay in the EU because of the high % of the gay population?
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hehehe from YOUR MONEY??? OR THE MONEY WHICH EUROPEAN UNION GIVES YOU TO SURVIVE?:))) ALL OF YOU ARE BLIND AND DEAF :) if only ME,ALONE,CAN MANAGE TO GIVE YOU LESSONS,WHAT WOULD BE IF ALL MACEDONIANS ARE HERE:))
MACEDONIA FOREVER !
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 yes from our money..... Tell people that every day greeks come to your country to buy because your country is under the limit of poverty... Tell people that in tolls you don't give rest of money in foreigners... hahaha!!!! Tell people that big Greek factories are there in your country and give job to you..... Vardarka's citizen!
MrBillyver 1 month ago
Wall Street Journal
January 28, 2012
Frustrated with the slow pace of implementation of budget overhauls in Greece, Germany is leading a push to force Athens to cede some control over its budget decisions to Europe, a move met by skepticism by European Union officials. you will die of hunger:)
coraddo280 1 month ago
Hell-ass take rest tomorrow.Have to strike in Monday again:)
yes,it's 100 euros,that's why hell-as is in bankruptcy.
and Def. Bankruptcy is a legal status of an insolvent person or an organisation, that is, one that cannot repay the debts owed to creditors. In most jurisdictions bankruptcy is imposed by a court order, often initiated by the debtor. its about Hell-ass:)
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 Slav be silent, it is true that greece has to adjust its economy also true that greece suffer under poverty in the moment, but you are thieves you fabricate and boost with something that never will belongs you, our heritage our civilisation over thousand of years. the slavs like you came to south europe from asien the 6th century 1000 years after Alexander the Great spread the greek culture and Hellenismus until the Inder river.
loxandra2312 4 weeks ago
source: Ancient Macedonians: Differences Between the Ancient Macedonians and the Ancient Greeks By J. S. G. Gandeto
coraddo280 1 month ago
Roman and Greek biographers, like Curtius Rufus, Polybius, Plutarch, Arrian, Diodorus, Justin and Herodotus described the ancient Macedonians as being a people quite distinct and separate from the ancient Greeks.
coraddo280 1 month ago
To them, ancient Macedonians constituted people, and a nation quite separate, and in stark contrast, to the Greeks. They militarily subdued the Greeks and subsequently treated them as conquered people; albeit more favorably then the rest of the people in the empire, but conquered subject they were, nevertheless.
coraddo280 1 month ago
no need for tickets.The Treaty of Bucharest ends 2013:) you will need them.all of you fucken turkish province.
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280
xaxaxaxaxa dream on majmun xD
oh and something else..you were 100 years more under turkish dominance o.O
NO MACEDONIA FOR YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AthenaOfGreece 1 month ago
let me know if you need some more about the truth of hell-ass
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280
trivia:
born Yugoslavian
live in denial
die Bulgarian
what is it? o.O
if you win,you get two tickets to visit the real Macedonia IN BEAUTIFUL GREECE
Bellegr 1 month ago
will you come to Macedonia of the police stop your bus and tell to remove the registration plates? will you come to Macedonia,if the police uniformed and ununiformed advice you to not come? Will you come to Macedonia if TV crew are not allowed to record the traditional Macedonian dances in Lerin,Voden and Kukush? So,do not tell me why? I told you,read the police records,find them in the National Archives,and I'm not from Skopje,maybe you are from Athens.I'm Macedonian from Macedonia.Macedonia.
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 ΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑ you are a BIG LIER.... Very BIG LIER!!!!!! You try to creat bad opinions about Greece and the real Macedonia here in greek region.. Tell people who are watching these comments the truth.. Tell them that every summer thousands Skopjians from your country goes to Chalkidiki for their vacations.. Tell that in Thessaloniki there are many cars that comes from Skopjie free with no restrictions... I told you again only students don't come to Vergina-Aiges..
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@coraddo280 Maybe you don't let them to know the real history.... Also, you didn't answer to my questions yet... Do you know Philip B'??? Why his ancients inscriptions are in ancient greek language?? Another time that you triviliaze yourself! Also i told you that i am a real Macedonian from real Macedonia near the tomb of Philip B'.. In Vergina... You can't tell me lies because i see the real history every day....
MrBillyver 1 month ago
ok.let me explain to you once more.regarding Pella and the rest of the Macedonian STOLEN HERITAGE.at the beginning thought you are smarter,but I got disappointed.Never mind,Repetitio Est Mater Studiorum-France stole huge amount of the Egyptian history,they are in French museums,Spain stole lots of it from South American civilisations,UK from the rest of the World.Hell-ass occupate the Egean part of Macedonia,changed the names of the towns and villages.need more explanation?
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 Unfortunately you couldn't answer to my questions.. It was very difficult to prove something different from facts that i saw with my eyes... I suggest you another time to come in Vergina to see the tomb of King of Macedonians Philip B'.. All the ancient inscriptions in his tomb are in ancient greek language... Let me think ancient macedonians stole your history... hahaha Your knowledge's level is very low and the only think you can do is to copy paste archives...
MrBillyver 1 month ago
@coraddo280 ...but you present them as you want.... Please answer to my questions with real facts.. Why skopjian students doesn't come to ancient capital of Macedonia, Vergina?? They learn only about your great alexandrovski and not the real Macedonian Great Alexander who was from the real Macedonia here in greek region... Stop it, you are callow and you don't know the real history... Don't trivialize continuously..
MrBillyver 1 month ago
Thier heroes???LOL.LOL.Last time i looked Pella is in Greece,,Macedonia Greece not this former Yugoslavian shithole called FYROM.These news idiots have no clue in what they reporte..Titla fucking ignorance..Alexander the Great was not from FYROM.Alexander the Great was from Greece.SKPOJA the new Disney Land theme park of Greek civilizations..LOL.LOL.WHAT A JOKE
cobone2 1 month ago
You know what's really funny? You build all those new 21st century statues of Alexander with slavic writings on em...Well you know what? Alexander COULDN'T EVEN READ THAT SHIT written bellow his feet, cause he spoke/wrote Greek.The slavic language didnt even exist back then. But yea, keep having those lovely Alexander parades...and build more statues while you are at it, they will surely look like historical evidence in about a billion years with all your propaganda. And then hell freezes over.
AMANMETONAMETAKEN 1 month ago
The greeks on alexander the great they are right he is greek
jzdb 1 month ago
its not point to run out,but to see the other side has brain or is thinking of having brain.in your case,you are far from it.I'm giving you FACTS about your phony nation and country,you say I have pig's nose.I give you FACTS about the hellenic massacres in Egean Macedonia,you say something third.
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@coraddo280 fake facts man...You told history as you want.. Let's ask you something, why name of Great Alexander is the same as greek name of Alexandros? Philip as greek name of Phillipos and not Alexandrovski and Phillipovski? xaxaxa Something else because maybe you didn't come to Vergina-Aiges to see the ancients words in tomb o King of Macedonia Phillip B'.Why are they in ancient greek language?I wish you don't be a teacher, it's a pity for your students to learn fake history...
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@coraddo280 And something more.. Vergina has many tourists... Especially students from other countries.. All balkan students has visited the ancient capital of Macedonia (real not your fake), Bulgarian, Romanian, Serbian, also Russian and furthermore Albanian.... BUT NOT students from Skopje, Vardarska which is your country... Why? Maybe you are one of them that learn fake history to his children.. Shame on you...
MrBillyver 1 month ago
and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
There is only one Macedonian region. It must be the region containing the following= Vergina, Thessaloniki, Pella, Mount Olympus, and of coarse must spread Hellenism! Therefore there can only be one Macedonian region, the one from the beginning of time to today. If you want it come get it!
SamsonElitsa 1 month ago
well hellasky,I'm not that kind of MACEDONIAN who will say,yes you are right.you are WRONG.make DNA analisys,discover your sub-saharian origin.Don't you see,all hellens like you are ugly,big nose and fat.Alexarad Makedonski was blond with blue eyes,only inhabitants of hell-ass are the russian girls who got imported,'cause your wifes are that ugly.
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280
ta gueule espece d'enfoire !!!!!
xaxaxaxa that's what you see every time you look into a mirror,a short fat ugly tatar with a pig nose xD
there's a french saying ''good looking as a GREEK''
no Macedonia for you stinky baboonofski !!!!!!!
MACEDONIA IS GREEEEEEEEEEEEECE !!!!!!!!!!!
Bellegr 1 month ago
@Bellegr probably all your mirrors are broken!
coraddo280 1 month ago
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Alexander addressing the dead Thebans and Athenians after the battle of Chaeronia: "Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought brother people, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad brothers if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
Curtius Rufus 6,3,11 Historia
Bellegr 1 month ago 8
Serbs knew it is impossible to make the people of FYROM Serbs, therefore they remembered the words of the Serbian scholar Stojan Novakovic who had said that the only way to separate FYROM's territory from Bulgaria was to create a new nation. Novakovic had seen such nation in the Macedonism.
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
As a result, the Macedonian nation was invented by stealing Greek and Bulgarian history and historical persons such as Alexander the Great and Tsar Samuil. The local dialect was introduced as a separate language from the Bulgarian and a new nation was born - the Macedonian one. Generations passed, people learned the fake Macedonian history and as adults they cannot accept the truth about who they really are.
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
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SKOPJE -- A six-year long DNA research
“The analysis of the data has showed that residents of FYROM have the most similar DNA with Bulgarians and Serbs, Croats with Bosnian and Serbian population while Kosovo Albanians have the fewest similarities with the others,” says Forensics Medicine Institute’s Dr Zlatko Jakovski from Skopje
CONC : Residents of FYROM are Slavs and there isn’t any DNA any connection with Alexander’s Macedonians ( 1000 years before Slavs)
erickusa88 1 month ago
you want history? ok,hellens,there is piece of it.enjoy it!
coraddo280 1 month ago
30,000 from the Aegean part of Macedonia now under Greek control.Included among them was the population from the city Kukush and surrounding villages.On August 2nd, 1913 the Greek army burned down the city Kukush and destroyed 40 villages. (7) During this destruction the Greek army also bombed the orphanage, the school for orphans and the residence of the matrons who looked after the orphans.
coraddo280 1 month ago
The Commission established that the population of the occupied lands “by tradition, instinct and by experience knows what to expect from the armies…and does not wait for them…” This means that for the armies to carry out the “extermination” as ordered, they would need to burn down all the buildings in the populated areas which would result in a massive exodus of the population. This was the case in Macedonia where around 50,000 people were driven out of their homes
coraddo280 1 month ago
The purpose of military conflict, as stated further in the report, is “complete annihilation of the enemy population”. (5) The villages and cities are not only seized but in many cases they are destroyed. Their residents who had the misfortune of not having fled are driven out of their homes and their houses are burned to the ground. The pillaged and homeless population has no choice but to leave its birthplace and never return. This is one of the characteristics of the Balkan Wars.
coraddo280 1 month ago
thus leaving the Greek army to enter and occupy the unprotected space. And this is how the Greeks took the cities Kukush, Gevgelia, Dojran and Strumitsa and caused their destruction.pon its invasion of the region the Greek army perpetrated unbelievable massacres against the Macedonian population with the destruction and burning of the cities and villages. The Greek terror was so severe that it prompted an investigation from the Carnegie Endowment Inquiry for International Peace.
coraddo280 1 month ago
ince the beginning of the Balkan Wars the Greek army grew in strength: it was numerically superior (with around 100,000 soldiers) compared to the Bulgarian army and morally stronger because it was led by the king, Constantine himself. This region at the time was under the influence of the Second Bulgarian Army under the command of General Ivanov. But after suffering a defeat at Lahna, Kukush and Dojran, the Bulgarian army retreated towards the River Struma and the Rodopi Mountains,
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 so you are saying that the "macedonian " army was the Bulgarian army ?
you are correct .. as they were NO ethnic Macedonians back then .
there was a war , you lost , get over it . this has happend to much of Greece's land , but you don't see us crying like little FYROMonkey Bulgarians turned in to Macedonians by tito .
this is what you are ,,
ABulgarian project , pushed forward by Tito
a communist idea gone terribly wrong !
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
The atrocities that took place in Kukush and the surrounding villages nearly a century ago, even today, leave us horrified. And that, in the mind of every normal person, pacifist by conviction or not, who has happened to learn about the fate of the people of Kukush, underscores in our minds the idea that such horrors must never be repeated again.
coraddo280 1 month ago
The Macedonian people, during the course of their long history, have experienced many wars, suffering, organized persecutions and massacres. At the beginning of the last century, during the First and especially during the Second Balkan War, the Greek army conducted organized persecutions and massacres against the Macedonian population in the southeastern part of Macedonia, particularly in the Kukush and Demir-Hisar Regions.
coraddo280 1 month ago
FYROMians are bulgarians, Macedonia is greek !!! stop stealing history and identity.... Bulgaria and Greece will never allow you to join EU or NATO !!!! brainwashed idiots..
andypetkov 1 month ago
thought you are smarter,but if I many times repeat to any person that something is white,and same that person say ,its black...very sad for you. Yes,I know my history,our history its not fabricated like yours.If I like common man,without any school can give you all that facts.What could happen if I was university professor? not because I give up,just have other problems apart of showing you the correct side of the truth.
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@coraddo280 My country is a big union. it's name is Hellas and is apart from regions.. One of them is the real Macedonia... Come onn learn history first and then write something..... I am the real macedonian and you are from Bardarska
MrBillyver 1 month ago
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MrBillyver 1 month ago
and you are not Macedonian,can not be.you are hellen.quite different
coraddo280 1 month ago
please,without any extra power.do not hurt yourself.helenic country is already deeply hurted,economicaly,socialy,asking for help every second day...do not use force:)
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 Yeah i was ready to saw something that from you... Look something, we have still money.... Bardarska whic is your real name of your country is still alive from our money..... All greeks buy from you beacause your salary is 100 euros which is our salary for 1/4 of a month.. hahahahahahahahah
MrBillyver 1 month ago 13
if you occupate a territory,and expel the inhabitants and take all their houses and fields,and use their grand grandfathers land,and bring from the Turkish border other people,how you call that?
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 people was here...WE ARE THESE PEOPLE.. You are Slaves... Hit your head in your wall...
MrBillyver 1 month ago
Ask and search in your archives,in Athens and Solun(Thessaloniki) about the special law,after the Civil War in Hellas,in order to expel Macedonains from that region,after thay had to go to Russia,Czechoslovakia,Poland...Ask and search in your archives about the ethnic cleansing.
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 And something important Philip B the king of Macedonians after war with south greek polis want to be a big union... Do you know that??
MrBillyver 1 month ago 7
half of the Egypt is in France,in many museums around the World.The Egypt is still there.Egyptians are still there.So,Mr.Billyver,answer to me,how many wars we had on the Balkan Peninsula? How many armies and soldiers stole from the different museums? Even today,around the Wold if you have money,can buy artefacts from any country,and to make museum.Very simple.With the Balkan wars,part of Macedonia was connected to Hellas,in any location you could dig,and discover any statues.
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@coraddo280 Hahaha hey man you forgot something we didn't stole something... The tomb of Philip B the father of Great Alexander was here in real macedonia all over these years... So, Manolis Andronikos found it.... Don't tell lies in people's eyes..... hahahahahah You make the history as you want not as it is in reality....
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Kiro Gligorov:'We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century (AD) we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.A man who had several assassination attempts made against him to keep him silent by Skopian extremists, died at age 94,a sad day for a man that knew the truth, sadly the Fyromians keep getting fed propoganda by Gruevski..from scandinavia!
europetravel22 1 month ago
[1912-13] Greece, Serbia, and Bulgaria join forces, and with the help of 100,000 Macedonians defeat the Turkish army in Macedonia. Macedonia is denied independence and the Treaty of Bucharest (August 1913) partitions the country between Greece, Serbia, and Bulgaria. Greece takes the biggest, southern half of Macedonia (Aegean Macedonia) and renames it to "Northern Greece”. SOLUN is MACEDONIAN.NO THESSALONIKI
coraddo280 1 month ago
@coraddo280 The only answer is the first one with the most positive votes up... So don't try to prove something... I am a real macedonian from real macedonia land near the ancient capital.. Vergina or Aiges you know... I would be very glad to come and see the real history in our museum with all findings by Manolis Andronikos.....
MrBillyver 1 month ago
[976-1018] With the weakening of the Byzantine Empire, the Macedonian Slavs rebel against Bulgarian authority and under Tsar Samuel create a strong Macedonian Slav medieval kingdom with its center at Ohrid. Samuel expanded his kingdom conquering parts of Greece, Epirus, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Dalmacia, but is defeated by the Byzantine emperor Basil II the Macedonian in 1014. By 1018 his empire is retaken by Byzantium.
coraddo280 1 month ago
[First half 10th century] The Bogomil teaching appears in Macedonia and grows into a large-scale popular movement that spreads through the Balkans and Europe.
coraddo280 1 month ago
[867-1025] Basil I the Macedonian (867-886) is the first Macedonian to become a Byzantine emperor, founder of the Macedonian dynasty. The empire reaches its zenith in a period known as the ‘Golden Age’, while ruled by the Macedonian Dynasty from 867 to 1025.
coraddo280 1 month ago