That jake brake sounds choppy. IDK if it's just the camera not being able to pick it up right but it just sounds off. Good response, but if you keep the Q peaked out constantly, it becomes ineffective. It works best when its allowed to wind up and down. I love Q's, but only when they are used correctly. I hope you guys got free pizza out of the deal...
"Q's" aren't suppose to be wound tight continuesly, because a normal persons ear hears only a select few frequency's and sometimes alot of people cant hear it wound tight, when responding we are told to work it a little bit and not just stomp on it. "Q's" only do so much for some. Thats why we have horns and multiple siren channels. Not winding it tight also helping traffic in the way not to easily focus on one sound, rather then a full range.
Seriously, when you are stuck in traffic, you dont just hold the q down. Let it go and use the airhorns. You'd think the guys holding it down would get tired of that high pitched noise.
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i disagree with "fanoseagrave", on my companys rigs our q's are loud. if your riding down the road with that q blasting that loud people are going to know something is up and they're going to look everywhere, but i dont think he was holding it down long enough.
Nice rig (a Seagrave) but I too disagree with holding the siren. A continuous pitch like that will "camoflauge" itself when you're playing the radio or air conditioner, where if you fluctuate the Q it will stand out more. On my neighboring township's rigs only the driver can control the Q and they all stand on it at intersections while the officers always keep the electronic siren on wail the whole time with sometimes a little air horn; the WORST thing you can do, IMO.
The studies I know of state that it's the change in pitch that attracts attention - this continuous high-pitched wail could miss out, and it's hard to tell where the noise is coming from with the constant note.
We only use electronic sirens, and switch from wail to yelp when approaching a busy intersection. And hit the air horn a few times. Horses for courses, use what suits you I suppose!!!
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Like CtFdPoSt330 said the Q does not lose distance in relation with speed. The Q, or any mechanical siren for that matter, is a glorified fan which pushed air out in front of it while an electronic siren speaker only puts sound out THROUGH the air and is therefore not as effective in relation to distance as a real Q.
Man a real Q sounds so good. I've been listening to my local FD a bit, and I figured out that they're using the electronic Q2B. It just doesn't quite compare. A real Q is so much louder and so much beastlier.
not to mention, the real Q2 doesnt lose distance with speed. whereas regular electronic sirens lose distance, the Q you can have blasting at 70 and still cover as much distance.
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I can understand somewhat why the shotgun fireman is sitting on the Q like that which basically is a term called "traffic breaking", but studies have shown on Q's that people can here the downwind better than the upwind. The sound waves travel much much better if you just "bump" the Q rather than lay on it. I'm not saying what he did is wrong, people can just here it better the other way. B&M Superchiefs act in the same fashion, only the are about 15 decibels higher on the downwind.
I've heard the electronic Q, and I'm not impressed. I've listened to electronic sirens for nearly 38 years, and none come close to a mechanical siren. Mechanical sirens are louder and sound real tinny compared to electronic sirens.
The best sounding sirens I've ever heard are the early Federal PA15A and PA20A electronic sirens with the deep low-pitched wail and yelp tones.
for one. the Q is the best it gets people out of the way better than any electronic siren ive used and it sounds alot better. also we are right next to it so if it was that bad why would we use it?
Besides the Q projects a different message than an electronic siren. An electronic siren basically says, "There is an emergency vehicle approaching" while a Q says, "There is a VERY BIG emergency vehicle approaching." Then the air horns say, "I MEAN BUSINESS!!!!" We have both electronic sirens AND Q's on all our Seagraves, but the electronic sirens are used only for backup in case the Q decides to take a crap.
and just how the hell do you expect people to yield then? that's the idea, is to annoy and attract attention... sorry, I'm not getting on a PA and asking politely for people to move with a please and thankyou
Forget Powercalls and other electronic sirens, Q's RULE!!! Electronic sirens are for backup in the event the Q should quit or for vehicles that can't handle a Q (Just my opinion). This video rocks!!!
jezzzz talk about Q overkill. must be a new guy riding that Q all the way their. all well, as long as the new guy winds it back up when your done. lol.
WIND THAT BABY UP!!! People can't hear us in the new cars these days. that new guys is workin' it the way you want, winding it down now and again but keepin' the pitch up!
I drive tractor trailer through Phillipsburg every Wednesday on the way to Builders Surplus in Bigler. I thought I recognized the town on the video. Nothin like a Federal Q to clear traffic! Great vid from in cab! Thanks for posting!!
Jake brake such as used on diesel big rigs. A Jake brake works by using hydraulic pressure to momentarily open the exhaust valve at the end of the compression stroke, venting off the compressed air into the exhaust system. That's where all the noise comes from. The braking of a Jake brake occurs because of the pumping loss compressing the air, and then eliminating the compressed air "rebound" on the power stroke.
A "Jake Brake" wtf is that lol... I'm no fire engine mechanic but all I know is when my Benz starts to make a noise like that under braking it usually means it's time for new brake pads and/or discs!!
It's just my personal preference, but if the truck I'm riding shotgun in has both a Q and an electronic siren, I would only use the Q; the electronic siren should only be a backup should the Q quit for whatever reason. I hate when people use the Q wit hthe electronic siren on wail. People think there are 2 vehicles approaching when there is only one. At least use the yelp when using the Q with it.
This is in PA right? Chester or Lancaster county? Nice vid, don't worry about what some of the guys are saying, my theory is, the more noise you make, the safer you are.
love the sound of the engine break..... and great job on the Q the more the better!!!!
bpw110 11 months ago
pore pore old Pizza Slut
PainKiller1773 1 year ago
That jake brake sounds choppy. IDK if it's just the camera not being able to pick it up right but it just sounds off. Good response, but if you keep the Q peaked out constantly, it becomes ineffective. It works best when its allowed to wind up and down. I love Q's, but only when they are used correctly. I hope you guys got free pizza out of the deal...
kcartersta60 1 year ago
Stand on that Q, damn!
Fireguy1020 1 year ago
evidence that Q barks louder than any electric siren
Tr2u1ck 1 year ago
i am all for just Q but leave of for a little let it mellow out a bite then crank on it
bpw110 1 year ago
yes!!!finally someone who does the exatly how i wil do it when im a junior firefighter next year!great job,more grovers!ha good vid man
EngulfedSix 1 year ago
you need to lay off that Q man
Skankpronger 1 year ago
lol damn boy, u guys go thru alot of Qs? let off the button
firefighter1212 2 years ago
take your foot off the button, holy hell, you guys go thru a lot of sirens if thats how u respond
backwindow 2 years ago 3
So what was the call for, burnt pizza? =P
IR1985 2 years ago
love the engine brake. sounds like a detriot diesel
astarplt350 2 years ago
no it dont....cummins
HITMANHITMAN2000 2 years ago
gee a lil Q happy????
CFDChris237 3 years ago 10
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25Yankeesfan 8 months ago
That sounds beautiful!!!!!
bossman380 3 years ago 4
Sweet jake brake on your engine! How far are u guys from Telford,Pa
richie5335 3 years ago 3
@richie5335 this is phillipsburg pa off route 78 in warren county nj haha i can hear my engine in route to a call lol but were out of hunterdon
HBFD14 2 years ago 2
"TURN OFF THE SIREN, ROD!" Classic.... even the firefighters get annoyed once in a while.
graphxman 3 years ago 2
I love all the profesionals who posted a comment saying everything was wrong about how the sirens were running.
tommy13t 3 years ago 2
That black truck at 1:30 got soooo freaked out! he had no clue what to do!
PhoBoStuDios 3 years ago 3
"Q's" aren't suppose to be wound tight continuesly, because a normal persons ear hears only a select few frequency's and sometimes alot of people cant hear it wound tight, when responding we are told to work it a little bit and not just stomp on it. "Q's" only do so much for some. Thats why we have horns and multiple siren channels. Not winding it tight also helping traffic in the way not to easily focus on one sound, rather then a full range.
PAfirefighter80 4 years ago 5
PAfirefighter80 is right. the purpose of the Q is to have it fluxuate up and down. also use the air horns more!
firebrad06 4 years ago 4
PAfirefighter80 is right. the purpose of the Q is to have it fluxuate up and down. also use the air horns more!
firebrad06 4 years ago 4
I agree 100%.
fanoseagrave 3 years ago 3
Ditto.. Practice some more..
strikedabox 3 years ago 2
Seriously, when you are stuck in traffic, you dont just hold the q down. Let it go and use the airhorns. You'd think the guys holding it down would get tired of that high pitched noise.
cougaspatupa 3 years ago
aye he IS right BUUUUUT i LOOOOVE the fed q no matter how it's being used, gotta admit fed q + air horn rooocks
rookietrooper 3 years ago 10
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i disagree with "fanoseagrave", on my companys rigs our q's are loud. if your riding down the road with that q blasting that loud people are going to know something is up and they're going to look everywhere, but i dont think he was holding it down long enough.
cddog1 4 years ago
damm man!! and i thought that Q sirens was gonna explode or something! wow!!
firefighter0002 4 years ago
Nice rig (a Seagrave) but I too disagree with holding the siren. A continuous pitch like that will "camoflauge" itself when you're playing the radio or air conditioner, where if you fluctuate the Q it will stand out more. On my neighboring township's rigs only the driver can control the Q and they all stand on it at intersections while the officers always keep the electronic siren on wail the whole time with sometimes a little air horn; the WORST thing you can do, IMO.
fanoseagrave 4 years ago
Wow learn how to work the federal Q man. You were holding that wayyy too long and steady.
skoczy04 4 years ago
geez little happy with the siren? Theres barely any traffic....
CFDChris237 4 years ago
Looks like what he did, worked just fine to me.
opt10opt 4 years ago
The studies I know of state that it's the change in pitch that attracts attention - this continuous high-pitched wail could miss out, and it's hard to tell where the noise is coming from with the constant note.
We only use electronic sirens, and switch from wail to yelp when approaching a busy intersection. And hit the air horn a few times. Horses for courses, use what suits you I suppose!!!
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sarrescuer 4 years ago
you hold the Q too long
tuckj12 4 years ago
he isnt holding it long enough
joevb4013 4 years ago
You know you're doing a good job if dispatch is telling you they can't hear you over the siren!! :D
Engine438 4 years ago 2
had that happen more than once
kevinvsmtm2 4 years ago
That's a hell of a jake brake on that bus!! lol...did you wear the alternator out LOL?!
jclamparter 4 years ago
Like CtFdPoSt330 said the Q does not lose distance in relation with speed. The Q, or any mechanical siren for that matter, is a glorified fan which pushed air out in front of it while an electronic siren speaker only puts sound out THROUGH the air and is therefore not as effective in relation to distance as a real Q.
seagravefan 4 years ago 2
let the siren breathe for a minute brother!
ikillsuck3rs 4 years ago
can i join this fire department
ckarper 4 years ago
Nice trio of mack dumps at 1:56
dmir406 4 years ago
idk if it is just me, but the Q and the "jake brake" just sound AMAZING together in this video!!!
rutola413 4 years ago
ah yes, very great combo.
CTFD13 4 years ago
Man a real Q sounds so good. I've been listening to my local FD a bit, and I figured out that they're using the electronic Q2B. It just doesn't quite compare. A real Q is so much louder and so much beastlier.
Drummadude12 4 years ago
not to mention, the real Q2 doesnt lose distance with speed. whereas regular electronic sirens lose distance, the Q you can have blasting at 70 and still cover as much distance.
CtFdPoSt330 4 years ago
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allissun9 4 years ago
WHAT TYPE OF ENGINE IS THAT? A CUMMINS?
HITMANHITMAN2000 4 years ago
Cummins N-14, 430 HP.
seagravefan 4 years ago
is this Hope BC?
lowrider5140 4 years ago
No, Hope Fire Company of Phillipsburg, PA.
seagravefan 4 years ago
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chersch5 4 years ago
I can understand somewhat why the shotgun fireman is sitting on the Q like that which basically is a term called "traffic breaking", but studies have shown on Q's that people can here the downwind better than the upwind. The sound waves travel much much better if you just "bump" the Q rather than lay on it. I'm not saying what he did is wrong, people can just here it better the other way. B&M Superchiefs act in the same fashion, only the are about 15 decibels higher on the downwind.
chersch5 4 years ago
mech Qs and jakes kick ass!!
Tr2u1ck 4 years ago
I've heard the electronic Q, and I'm not impressed. I've listened to electronic sirens for nearly 38 years, and none come close to a mechanical siren. Mechanical sirens are louder and sound real tinny compared to electronic sirens.
The best sounding sirens I've ever heard are the early Federal PA15A and PA20A electronic sirens with the deep low-pitched wail and yelp tones.
nmtoc 4 years ago
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Noise pollution at its worst. I hate mechanical sirens on modern fire engines, especially the Q.
nmtoc 4 years ago
Just curious, what's your opinion on the electronic Q?
seagravefan 4 years ago
for one. the Q is the best it gets people out of the way better than any electronic siren ive used and it sounds alot better. also we are right next to it so if it was that bad why would we use it?
bubba7991 4 years ago
Besides the Q projects a different message than an electronic siren. An electronic siren basically says, "There is an emergency vehicle approaching" while a Q says, "There is a VERY BIG emergency vehicle approaching." Then the air horns say, "I MEAN BUSINESS!!!!" We have both electronic sirens AND Q's on all our Seagraves, but the electronic sirens are used only for backup in case the Q decides to take a crap.
seagravefan 4 years ago
and just how the hell do you expect people to yield then? that's the idea, is to annoy and attract attention... sorry, I'm not getting on a PA and asking politely for people to move with a please and thankyou
CanonNinja 4 years ago
Forget Powercalls and other electronic sirens, Q's RULE!!! Electronic sirens are for backup in the event the Q should quit or for vehicles that can't handle a Q (Just my opinion). This video rocks!!!
seagravefan 4 years ago
Perfectly Put. Same Here!!
shfrfghtr 4 years ago
where is this fire company from
ckarp1987 4 years ago
Phillipsburg, PA, and it SHOULD be Engine 11-10, which is a 1997 Seagrave pump.
seagravefan 4 years ago
is this fire engine number 1110
ckarp1987 4 years ago
Is this your 1997 Seagrave pump?
seagravefan 4 years ago
jezzzz talk about Q overkill. must be a new guy riding that Q all the way their. all well, as long as the new guy winds it back up when your done. lol.
basehorhonda 4 years ago
WIND THAT BABY UP!!! People can't hear us in the new cars these days. that new guys is workin' it the way you want, winding it down now and again but keepin' the pitch up!
P.S.- I want that jake-brake!!!
MrWilburne 4 years ago
I drive tractor trailer through Phillipsburg every Wednesday on the way to Builders Surplus in Bigler. I thought I recognized the town on the video. Nothin like a Federal Q to clear traffic! Great vid from in cab! Thanks for posting!!
jeg70 5 years ago
At last a video without music! Only pure siren and motor sound, thank you very much guys!
6060steamfreak 5 years ago
Nothing gets you through like a Q. NO electronic siren can even come close, not even a Powercall. Q's rule.
seagravefan 5 years ago
JAKES OWN!!! we have them on both engines
Firefighter11491 5 years ago
did he drain the battery
compboy888 5 years ago
i love the dispatcher, "cant hear you with that siren blaring". can you say Q overkill
aland147 5 years ago
Jake brake such as used on diesel big rigs. A Jake brake works by using hydraulic pressure to momentarily open the exhaust valve at the end of the compression stroke, venting off the compressed air into the exhaust system. That's where all the noise comes from. The braking of a Jake brake occurs because of the pumping loss compressing the air, and then eliminating the compressed air "rebound" on the power stroke.
drumteen 5 years ago
They probably had to put out 2 fires. The one they are responding to and the one after the Q blew up.
jberlotti 5 years ago
A "Jake Brake" wtf is that lol... I'm no fire engine mechanic but all I know is when my Benz starts to make a noise like that under braking it usually means it's time for new brake pads and/or discs!!
JohnDH1977 5 years ago
A "Jake Brake" is a braking systeme entirely utilized by the engine. Most trucks over 35,000 pounds have them.
Geno2733 5 years ago
"Here's someone that HAS NO FRIGGEN IDEA HOW TO USE A FEDERAL Q SIREN."
very true. the ups and downs are what makes the siren , not putting a brick on the pedal. wow.
hvfc102 5 years ago
Sounds like that truck could use a brake job!
JohnDH1977 5 years ago
Why? It's a Jake Brake, that's what they sound like.
Rofocowboy84 5 years ago
It's just my personal preference, but if the truck I'm riding shotgun in has both a Q and an electronic siren, I would only use the Q; the electronic siren should only be a backup should the Q quit for whatever reason. I hate when people use the Q wit hthe electronic siren on wail. People think there are 2 vehicles approaching when there is only one. At least use the yelp when using the Q with it.
Just my opinion.
DHMwithT 5 years ago
This is in PA right? Chester or Lancaster county? Nice vid, don't worry about what some of the guys are saying, my theory is, the more noise you make, the safer you are.
Rofocowboy84 5 years ago
Phillipsburg, PA, about 20 miles north of Tyrone in north-central PA.
DHMwithT 5 years ago
Ah, okay. Some of the major roads looked like ones near me.
Rofocowboy84 5 years ago
IF THE Q IS THERE USE IT!!!! we do
Firefighter11491 5 years ago
The cars OBVIOUSLY hear you...they just have no place to go...geez...
engine058 5 years ago
The ole' Q must have nearly died.
engine173351 5 years ago
GREAT!!!
I love the Sirens... they exist to be used =)
eddiemaniaco 5 years ago
Depends on the State according to our light permits in WV if the lights are going and you are in motion you must have the siren going
JAdkinson 5 years ago
yikes! easy up on it guys.
Staubb00 5 years ago
That Q-Siren must have been hot to the touch
Quickcall 5 years ago
wow way to clear the traffic ! oh wait there was none. easy with the q ! omg wackers
BlackHat23 5 years ago
haha pizza hut is on fire
fireman050 5 years ago
Here's someone that HAS NO FRIGGEN IDEA HOW TO USE A FEDERAL Q SIREN. Stick to the electronic ones from now on, ok bud?
thegerman349 5 years ago
chill with the siren thats just annoying...no need for it
edreed24 5 years ago
you must ride the ambulance
bowtie89 5 years ago 5
@bowtie89 lol.
fdnylover 1 year ago
@bowtie89 no. he's actually right. It's annoying. and it blends in. not as effective
granvilledrummer 1 year ago
That was bright like crystal. Good work!
Vinterleker 5 years ago