@khalidjunior Shut your trap you ignorant fool. If you have no knowledge its best to shut your gob!! These brothers are praising Allah and His Rasool (saw), if you think the Sahaba or the Salaf never did that then I suggest you dig a hole and bury urself in it you idiot!! Dont know where these clowns come from!!!
@PureHeartMultimedia do you have any evidence to proof thats it isn't bidah,,, Our salaf peace be upon them didn't use to practice this sort of taboo.
Surely, looking at all of the examples of this practice throughout the African continent should lead you to the conclusion that people elder, and more knowledgeable than yourself do NOT consider the practice as an innovation!
Dancig collectively to express joy to invoque God's majesty and beauty is more beautiful. Chanting beauty and greatness of the special relationship we should seek with God. Chanting and dancing is not a formal rite in islam. It is (mubah) tolerated practice expressing rejoice while reminding the one God's status. If someone says that it is any kind of worshiping, you can reject it. But God is rejoiced toward his servant when he is rejoiced toward God? Sort of "asymetric" reciprocity...
@PureHeartMultimedia JazakAllah for the reply, i'm just curious if they do it out of religious reasons? or some sort of tradition? Not being offencive but i haven't read or hear about this from any shayke?
Alhumdulillah, based in Morroco, our beloved Shaykh Sidi Hamza, a true man of Allah (swt). Inshallah may Allah (swt) give Sidi Hamza a long and healthy life.
Mahaba to all Fuqara, especially Sidi Jamal and Sidi Munir.
salam. sorry. not good in english. i just wanna say one thing. do not arguing about good thing. no one knows wat their fate infront Allah. Just DO IT. do good things.For me, they`re working, washing their heart from Allah to Allah by Allah. Read hadith Qudsi. Do not judge anything coz who ever do zikr, they`re close to Allah. For me, they not just can zikir out loud, but they can even dancing or jumping. No prob with it as long they do zikr..do we?
There will be a day where Prophet Muhammad SAWS will intercede for those who love him. these people who are trying to stop people sending blessings and praises on Prophet SAWS and remembering and glorifying Allah in such harmonic beautiful gatherings shall be held accountable.....Allahuakbar.
All we need to proove these people wrong is.....Allah SWT has said, if you remember/mention me in a gathering, Then I (Allah swt) will mention and remember you in a gathering better than yours and in a place better than yours'. That is all we have to say to these ignorant wannabee MILKshaykhs that put bidaah etc on these pages.
Alhamdulillah MashALLAH SubahanALLAH this one of the best Nasheed i ever heard its so beautifull it makes to remember ALLAH swt more and more flow in love. i been to one of the gethering of zikir with Sheikh Nuh Keller and Sheikh Habib Umar.
And obey Allâh and His Messenger, and do not dispute (with one another) lest you lose courage and your strength departs, and be patient. Surely, Allâh is with those who are As-Sâbirûn (the patient). The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:46
Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours [i.e., Islam] that is not a part of it, will have it rejected. (Narrated by Al-Bukhaari, 2550; Muslim, 1718).
in doing dhikir there is no matter of Innovattion but if you like to that way then that is your way and this is our way. many thanks bye i dont have time this kind of things.
Remember Allah abundantly, in order that you become successful"(8:45) "Only in the remembrance of Allah (swt) will your heart find peace"(13:28) Bid'ah oppression. suicide bombers, husbands imprisoning wives. He who starts a good sunnah will be rewarded for it, in addition to receiving rewards equal to the rewards of those who follow him into it. Whereas he who starts a bad sunnah will be burdened with it, in addition to receiving burdens equal to the burdens of those who follow him into it.
thear will b time when people know that,s wronge but they will b so much in to it they thing it ,s part of relgious belive we all have desire to express our love its house of ALLAHA s b t and whats going in the name of relgion d,t go to any mulla read (QURAN PAKK) with traslation and under stand it respect the house of ALLHAA s b t on day of judgment u have to ans ALLAHA s b t forgive us and give us wisdom to understand good and bad
As for what you see happening in the video, it is part of this tariqa. Please read up on sufism, turuq and innovation. Sheikh Nuh Keller has written some articles and you can read his translation of al-maqasid and umdat us salik.
Bilals 2 nawafil after wudu. Did the prophet tell him to do this? No. So, he practised an act before he found out whether it was permissible for him to do it. The prophet told him AFTER he did it for a great length of time that he 'heard his footsteps in jannah'. So, can I say that the sahaba innovated? Yes, but they distinguished between good innovation and bad. There are countless examples amongst the sahabah, such as binding the Qur'an in a mushaf, or performing tarawih in jamaah.
do i have to give you evidence about doing sahabas doing zikir of ALLAH swt. what kind of Question is that its like saying provide evidence if sahabas used to pray. do you reject the dhikir of ALLAH come on wake up whats wrong with you. come can dhikir be out of islam if ALLAH swt in Quran "if you do Dhikir of me then i will remembe you too".
this is Nasheed and Dhikir in ths video and IT IS NOT OUT OF ISLAM THINK WHAT EVER YOU LIKE TO THINK BUT PLEASE DONT GO STRAY.
sorry it seems like you have mis understood what i asked for i said PLEASE can you provide evidence to back your theory to say that zikr was practised excessively like in this video by the sahaba
Ibn `Umar reported, "The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, `When you pass by a garden of paradise, avail yourselves of it.' The Companions asked, `What are the gardens of Paradise, O Messenger of Allah?" The Prophet, peace be upon him, replied, `The assemblies of dhikr. There are some angels of Allah who go about looking for such assemblies of dhikr, and when they find them they surround them. in another Hadith circle of Sahabas doing Dhikir they said we are doing Dhikir for sake of ALLAH swt.
And remember your Lord within yourself, humbly and with fear without loudness in words in the mornings, and in the afternoons and be not of those who are neglectful The Noble Qur'an Al-Araf 7.205
Islam is a way of life as we both know; Islam is a peaceful religion Islam is also simple as Muslims it is our duty to adhere strictly to the Quran and Sunnah there is no unity amongst us Muslims today because we are leaving the example of the prophet (pbuh) and following our own desires. Now let me point out this dancing that we see above us was this practised by the final prophet of Allah?
Their Salat (prayer) at the House (of Allah, i.e. the Ka'bah at Makkah) was nothing but whistling and clapping of hands. The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:34
your taking the quran as an ordinary book, hence you make mistakes as above.
the most basic of understanding Quran is, firstly, master the arabic language and its sciences, then, then let the ayah and the hadith interact to reveal the beutifull pearls of wisdom and guidence it gives.
this was not the traditon of the sahaba, the great sahabah learnt ,accadamicley and sprutually from teachers and guides to obtain sared knowlege,
The mistake I made was down to user error it wasn't down to me taking the Qur'an as an ordinary book. Besides I picked up the mistake and have corrected it. Yes I agree with you the Sahabah learnt academically and spiritually from the best of guides the final messenger of Allah and from each other.
some of our muslim brothers have loud dhikir and this brother maybe he likes to do dhikir like this if hes worng ALLAH knows best. its between him and his RABB. who are to say something.
So you are admitting these people may be at fault with their practises.. well am glad you have opened up to that may Allah guide us both and the Muslim ummah towards the haq the truth of which the final messenger of Allah was upon and those of his companions. Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven. But if they return (thereto), then the examples of those (punished) before them have already preceded (as a warning) Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:38
they are doing anything fault or haram. its just that you cant see the truth and we change Quran to fit our ideas like you said cant do loud zikir. yes that Ayath is kufars not to be used for muslims who are already following so go used that ayath on kufars please brother. i dont time for your arguments we should be busying in prayers and zikir and learn deen then this kind of things. also stop useing ayaths on muslims which came for kufars.
So now what you are saying is that these people are acting upon the Quran and sunah by carrying out these acts? The ayah I have quoted above was not targeted at you specifically it is a reminder to all that Allah is most forgiving.
Verily, this Quran guides to that which is most just and right and gives glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allah and His Messenger, Muhammad SAW). Who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a great reward (Paradise) Al-Isra 17:9
yes Quran is right always but you also said doing loud zikir is not allowed which is not true it is allowed these people are not doing anything fault or haram, they just doing zikir of ALLAH SWT and Reading the Nasheed please brother move on i dont time for this kind of things
I have given to you evidence according to the Quran that doing loud zikr is not permissible and you still choose to reject that evidence and you then state that the Quran is right I am rather confused by what you believe please enlighten me and explain why is loud zikr like this permissible according to the Quran and sunnah and not according to some one out of the slums. Many thanks
in Quran ALLAH swt said you can do Zikir of ALLAH by setting or standing but it never ever and no way its in Quran that anything about loud or quite zikir. so im saying we love Quran and sunnah Sahabas used to do zikir all them time in groups on for the sake of ALLAH swt for his love theres nothing to be confuse i beleive this is Zikir of ALLAH swt and its Nasheed and theres nothing in wronge in this. your arugement is point less. thank you
When you have finished As-Salat (the prayer - congregational), remember Allah standing, sitting down, and (lying down) on your sides, but when you are free from danger, perform As-Salat (Iqamat¬ as¬ Salat). Verily, As-Salat (the prayer) is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours. The Noble Quran an-Nisa 4:103
The above verse those not justify loud zikr Allah should be remembered constantly weather that's sitting, standing or lying down
At the moment were going right back to the beginning were going around in circles because you don't seem to understand what am asking for I am asking you to give me a ayah a verse in the Quran which justifies loud zikr please simple.
did the children of Madinah not dance and rejoice when the Messenger of Allah first visited????
also brother, you seem to be quoting ayah after ayah, thats all good, but surely, refrence to the ayah needs to be backed up by hadith, thats why we get,extremist justying their version of topics such as ,jihad,hijab,ie,and then form thier own ideology of the deen .
because people are takeing Quran litteretley,
you need wisdom and hikma to learn sacred knowledge, and we get these from our teachers.
Aslam aliukum sorry for late reply was engaged in the last days of Ramadan a lot of zikr alhamdilah Ok first of all I would like to say that when the children of Medina sang for the propht the first thing he caled them upon was tawhid he didnt advise them to stop their singin and then and call them upon tawhid as this would not make sense all prophets called their nations tribe towards tawhid first As for gainig refernce from the above vrses of the Qur'an I suggest you read from Tafsir Ibn Kathr
As for whether he himself did it or not, that does not prove its impermissibility. He did not teach grammar lessons, nor did he open madrasahs. Is it haram to open a madrasah? For innovation, you have to understand how to distinguish between good innovation and bad innovation.
Is there precedent for this in the sunnah? Yes...the ethiopians danced in the mosque of our nabi (saw), jaffar sadiq danced in front of our prophet, imam ali hopped around the prophet. The prophet asked him what he was doing. He replied the ethiopians do this when they hear good news. So dancing is allowed.
It will be nice if they read Quran or had lecteurs that will help they daily worship or the community it may be worthted to post it.But group of man jumping ups and down i dont think ever our prophet(pboh) nor who came after him did such thing , this is far from what real Sufis daily worship did we just took what our desire attracted to .
The prophete (pboh) sad every novation in the DEEN is in hell fire . So prouve me that this is not inovation and where in Islam says is lawful ??? thanks
The prophet(saw)had worned us againts those who's deviated from his path in Bukhari and Muslim and sad: There people who's skin is like ours and who's language is like ours they will mixed the correct statement with bad one , they stand at the gates of hellfire if you listen to them they will push you in .
The Prophet(saw) nor did his sahaba(r) did anything like this, so why do you take either fake or weak Hadith and you blow it to make it fit your agenda .
the quran covers evryfing..but the hadeeth and sunnah cover it all in more detail:both are the 'explanation' of the quran (the tashreeh)..e.g the hadeeth tell us the etiquette and method of prayer and the quran only tells us when to etc
Ibn Layun at-Tujibi said, As for dancing in the mosque, it is in the sahih muslim collection from A`isha who said, An army came from Ethiopia beating drums on the day of the feast in the mosque. The Prophet invited me and I put my palms on his shoulders and watched them play.
Ibn Aynia said that zafaf was to dance. So it is confirmed that dancing is permissible. If it was forbidden in its essence, it would not have been done in the presence of the Messenger of Allah(alaihi salaam).
morocco would not exist if it werent tassawuf. it preserved islam in morocco and kept it alive. any moroccan scholar of islam in any time period that contributed to the essence of our deen who wasnt a master of the sufis.ex: ibn abi zayd RA and more! Subhanallah, these people who call this bidaa are lost and may Allah SWT save them, and help them. they hide behind these phrases to protect their minds from wht they dont understand. may allah preserve these circles of dhikr! AMIN
i sincerely suggest you go and learn about Islam and the dhikr our great prophet(pbuh) and his followers did and STOP INSULTING THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY MOVED BY THE REMEMBERANCE OF THEIR GOD, and know that even animals know who created them.
also for quran verses and hadith look at my page, there is many more, which you will find out if you truely seek the knowledge
if you r against dhikr, then u r in the wrong "group", if you don't believe me you will find out in the afterlife!
(ed. I removed the post which MzMuslima gave such a nice reply to above. Hence her response may seem out of place, but she is right and we all hope to be in dhikr in the afterlife together!)
Bukhari Book 4 Volume 52 Hadith 235 Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari: We were in the company of Allah's Apostle (during Hajj). Whenever we went up a high place we used to say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and Allah is Greater," and our voices used to rise, so the Prophet said, "O people! Be merciful to yourselves (i.e. don't raise your voice), for you are not calling a deaf or an absent one, but One Who is with you, no doubt He is All-Hearer, ever Near (to all things)."
Wsalam Jackparcel. Me from malaysia. So far I havnt got any video to share but to share in knowledge and understanding in this matter especially in sufism and related to zikirullah, I'd love too. Im in the process of learning and understanding. InshaAllah
As in the Quran says: ".... remember me in your standing, ruku', sujud, in the movement or still.... means we have to remember HIM in every second, every minutes and in every breath that we take. All of that in our daily life. So those movement they manifest it into form of dancing..In order to absorb the name of Allah in body, mind and soul. Sorry Im not good in explaining but just to share a little bit of my understanding towards the sufism especially in practicing the zikir. Wallahu a'lam
it is important because if he doesnt keep the rythm going they maybe wont say everything in once togheter maybe the other keeps a slower rythm and an other man keeps a faster rythm he is there to compansaint the voice in one.
What he is doing is called 'Hadrah' in which one uses the breath and the body to totally involve yourself in repeating the name Allah (for instance). It is about as far from the CONCEPT of 'dancing' as a person can get!
salaam again BROTHER OR SISTER IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT PLEASE DONT ACUSE ME OF SAYING THINGS I DID NOT?MAY ALLAH FORGIVE YOU,salaam
salaam.dear eldopesta ,before you jump to conclusions and put words into my mouth PLEASE read the argument before you say something,have you not read the hadith about what the rasul pbuh said,(if you do not have anything good to say then don't speak)salaam
You're being unfair. First of all they do their prayers, and read their verses of the koran DAILY. dikr comes afterwards. And there is nothing bad, stupid or anything else about getting together and praising god. You are turning ISlam into catholicism or orthodoxy when you claim these things.
Well don't think so, and leave them in peace. They are good muslims who like praising their god and prophet in this fashion. They do NOT hurt themselves, pray to idols or anything of the sort. There is nothing in the Koran that barrs this practice. Not all hadiths, even those considered 'sahiha' can be dubious. Wallah aalam.
salaam brother,if its not mentiond in the quraan doesa that mean you can do it?no of course not!!!but from what ive heard from a lot of pious people that these actions are not permitted,but like you said wallah aalam and allah knows best,btw eid mubarak to you and your family brother
To me the Koran is the only guide. But if you want ahadith you can go back to the first comments on this video and you'll see that people have provided the ahadith that show that the prophet did not mind such practices. Moreover, please try to ascertain things by yourself. "pious people" are not the ultimate reference. The Koran is.
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
brother this still does not prove that what they are doin is sunnah!
The brothers are followers of Shaykh Sidi Hamza Al Qadiri Al Boutchichi from Morocco. You are correct because the Naqshbandi brothers and sisters of Bury were hosting the event.
For any action to be accepted in Islam 2 conditions must be present: 1:sincere intention for Alaah alone 2:Action being done must be in accordance with the prophets teachings. If both conditions aren't present then your falling into 2 major sins! 1:shirk=associating a partner with allaah in worship 2:biddah=bringing a new action for which there isn't any proof. These brothers might have 1 present but 2 is nowhere to be seen.
Wahhabism is not Ahl Sunna ! Its founder is Muhammed al Wahhab, its grandfather is Ibn Taimiyyah, who was arrested because of his heretic teachings. There was no Wahhabi sect before M. al Wahhab, so they are Bid'a. They belong to the 72 groups !!
masallah masallah morrocan dhikr, now i`ve seen morrocan dhikr i`m very happy because in the netherlands there are a few wahabi groups(morrocan & turkish people) thats saying dhikr is bidah and we don`t do dhikr in morroco and mawlid nawabi is bidah too and all that kind of trash but here is the real proof of morrocan dhikr
Musnad of Imaam Ahmed rahimahu Allah brother. Volume 6, the isnaad is from Muhammad bin Salama who is one of the narrators of Imam Muslim, and the other chain of narration is from the criterion of Bukhari. In short it is solid narration relayed by the Salaaf us Saleh. May Allah increase all our Imaan and tolerance Ameen. walaykum asalaam
Imam Ahmad relates from Anas(RA), with a 100% sound chain like bukhari&Muslim criterion, that
the Ethiopians danced in front of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace); dancing and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad. 6 vols. Cairo 1313/1895. Reprint. Beirut: Dar Sadir, n.d.., 3.152)
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying Allah has mobile (squads) of angels, who have no other work (to attend to but) to follow the assemblies of Dhikr and when they find such assemblies in which there is Dhikr (of Allah) they sit in them and some of them surround the others with ...
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
...They (the angels) would again say: Our Lord, there is one amongst them such and such simple servant who happened to pass by (that assembly) and sat there along with them (who had been participating in that assembly). He (the Lord) would say: I also grant him pardon, for they are a people the seat-fellows of whom are in no way unfortunate.
... They would say: They beg of Thee forgiveness. He would say: I grant pardon to them, and confer upon them what they ask for and grant them protection against which they seek protection. ...
...They (the angels) would say: Our Lord, from the Hell-Fire. He (the Lord) would say: Have they seen My Fire? They would say: No. He (the Lord) would say: What it would be if they were to see My Fire?...
...(What it would be then) if they were to see Mine Paradise? They (the angels) said: They seek Thine protection. He (the Lord) would say: Against what do they seek protection of Mine?...
Be would say: What do they beg of Me? They would say: They beg of Thee the Paradise of Thine. He (God) would say: Have they seen My Paradise? They said: No, our Lord. He would say: ...
...He is best informed about them: Where have you come from? They say: We come from Thine servants upon the earth who had been glorifying Thee (reciting Subhan Allah), uttering Thine Greatness (saying Allah o-Akbar) and uttering Thine Oneness (La ilaha ill Allah) and praising Thee (uttering al-Hamdu Lillah) and begging of Thee. ...
...their wings till the space between them and the sky of the world is fully covered, and when they disperse (after the assembly of Dhikr is adjourned) they go upward to the heaven and Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, asks them although ...
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying Allah has mobile (squads) of angels, who have no other work (to attend to but) to follow the assemblies of Dhikr and when they find such assemblies in which there is Dhikr (of Allah) they sit in them and some of them surround the others with ...
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
Dear Sondoes, perhaps you will take a look at the video I just uploaded which gives PROOF FROM HADITH that Loud Dhikr in a group is NOT Bid'a. After all, we would be ignorant if we ignored the Hadith collected by Abu Hurayra! Salaam aleykum.
Imam Ahmad relates from Anas (Allah be well pleased with him), with a chain of transmission Sahih(Hammad bin Salama, that the Ethiopians danced in front of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace); dancing and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad.)
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
I'm failed to find such Hadees "chain of transmission" in book of Authentic Haddeeths (such Bukhari, Muslim, and few others). Would you mind to provide exact reference (page, chapter and book) that you are using to quote this narration. Thanks for yourtime.
Here is link to video explaining that Hadeeth is even in Ibn Qayyim book! If not absolutely 100% acceptable (more than 99%) Ibn Qayyim would NEVER include it.
Also in Hadith Qudsi Imam Nawawi chapter Fadl Hilq al-Dhikr and in Hilyat al-Awliya' by Abu Na'im al-Asfahani under the chapter about Ziyad b. 'Abd Allah al-Numayri, chain of narration: Ibn Amr b. Hamdan, al-Hasan b. Sufyan, Muhammad b. Abi Bakr, Za'idah b. Abi al-Rafad, Ziyad b. al-Numayri, from Anas b. Malik)
May Allah bless these brothers
FEZAN78 2 months ago
@khalidjunior Shut your trap you ignorant fool. If you have no knowledge its best to shut your gob!! These brothers are praising Allah and His Rasool (saw), if you think the Sahaba or the Salaf never did that then I suggest you dig a hole and bury urself in it you idiot!! Dont know where these clowns come from!!!
moby786 2 months ago
subhanlah! isn't this considered bid'ah
khalidjunior 3 months ago
@khalidjunior
Bism'illahir Rahmaanir Rahiim.
No! This is NOT considered Bidah, except by narrow-minded people who refuse to accept what is generally accepted by a larger Jamat and its scholars.
PureHeartMultimedia 3 months ago
@PureHeartMultimedia do you have any evidence to proof thats it isn't bidah,,, Our salaf peace be upon them didn't use to practice this sort of taboo.
khalidjunior 3 months ago
@khalidjunior
Surely, looking at all of the examples of this practice throughout the African continent should lead you to the conclusion that people elder, and more knowledgeable than yourself do NOT consider the practice as an innovation!
PureHeartMultimedia 3 months ago
Dancig collectively to express joy to invoque God's majesty and beauty is more beautiful. Chanting beauty and greatness of the special relationship we should seek with God. Chanting and dancing is not a formal rite in islam. It is (mubah) tolerated practice expressing rejoice while reminding the one God's status. If someone says that it is any kind of worshiping, you can reject it. But God is rejoiced toward his servant when he is rejoiced toward God? Sort of "asymetric" reciprocity...
ouizren 8 months ago
Why is the guy jumping up and down for?
erm?
QuranTafseer 9 months ago
@QuranTafseer
It is part of the Boutchichiya Tariqat practices.
Bism'illah, Google dPEgSZ7p5fQ and watch the YouTube clip
PureHeartMultimedia 9 months ago
@PureHeartMultimedia JazakAllah for the reply, i'm just curious if they do it out of religious reasons? or some sort of tradition? Not being offencive but i haven't read or hear about this from any shayke?
QuranTafseer 9 months ago
@QuranTafseer
Wa alaikum as salaam,
More information about the Boutchichiya Tariqat - including a silsila - is at sufiway net (put in the dots)
PureHeartMultimedia 9 months ago
A right bunch of Lancashire Lads. This is the future for Bury!!
999shakers 1 year ago
mashallah this zikr is beautiful. thnku for sharing it with uz x
2010afsha 1 year ago
I think this is the cover version of a song Pink Floyd did....
fasthead 1 year ago
@fasthead Yeah, I think it is on the album 'Bright Side of The Moon' :-)
PureHeartMultimedia 1 year ago
@fasthead this dhkir zikir of ALLAH and if you like to make fun this then inshAllah Allah will see you.....
rabbaniqadri 10 months ago in playlist dervishes
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Alhumdulillah beautiful. Inshallah may Allah (swt) give our beloved Shaykh Sidi Hamza, a long and healthy life.
Mahaba to all Fuqara, escpecially Sidi Jamal and Sidi Munir.
ak2002uk 1 year ago
Alhumdulillah beautiful. Inshallah may Allah (swt) give our beloved Shaykh Sidi Hamza, a long and healthy life.
Mahaba to all Fuqara, escpecially Sidi Jamal and Sidi Munir.
ak2002uk 1 year ago
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Alhumdulillah, based in Morroco, our beloved Shaykh Sidi Hamza, a true man of Allah (swt). Inshallah may Allah (swt) give Sidi Hamza a long and healthy life.
Mahaba to all Fuqara, especially Sidi Jamal and Sidi Munir.
ak2002uk 1 year ago
@sniperb6 Yes, Astaghfir'ullah, Alhamdu'lillah, La ilaha il Allah, Allah Hu Akbar!
Ramadaan Mubarak!
PureHeartMultimedia 1 year ago 4
@sniperb6 Yes, Astaghfir'ullah, Alhamdu'lillah, La ilaha il Allah, Allah Hu Akbar!
PureHeartMultimedia 1 year ago 4
@zaemnos basically what he is doing is similar 2 what u do when ur reading the quran u slowly start rocking. hes just really getting in2 it.
sub5551 1 year ago
Oh my god wthat i that??
afghanergirl 2 years ago
salam. sorry. not good in english. i just wanna say one thing. do not arguing about good thing. no one knows wat their fate infront Allah. Just DO IT. do good things.For me, they`re working, washing their heart from Allah to Allah by Allah. Read hadith Qudsi. Do not judge anything coz who ever do zikr, they`re close to Allah. For me, they not just can zikir out loud, but they can even dancing or jumping. No prob with it as long they do zikr..do we?
MrPenjejakilmu 2 years ago 2
There will be a day where Prophet Muhammad SAWS will intercede for those who love him. these people who are trying to stop people sending blessings and praises on Prophet SAWS and remembering and glorifying Allah in such harmonic beautiful gatherings shall be held accountable.....Allahuakbar.
Ameerah786 2 years ago
All we need to proove these people wrong is.....Allah SWT has said, if you remember/mention me in a gathering, Then I (Allah swt) will mention and remember you in a gathering better than yours and in a place better than yours'. That is all we have to say to these ignorant wannabee MILKshaykhs that put bidaah etc on these pages.
Ameerah786 2 years ago
Alhamdulillah MashALLAH SubahanALLAH this one of the best Nasheed i ever heard its so beautifull it makes to remember ALLAH swt more and more flow in love. i been to one of the gethering of zikir with Sheikh Nuh Keller and Sheikh Habib Umar.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
And obey Allâh and His Messenger, and do not dispute (with one another) lest you lose courage and your strength departs, and be patient. Surely, Allâh is with those who are As-Sâbirûn (the patient). The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:46
killerdon123 2 years ago
very true indeed mashALLAH jazakALLAHir you see Quran is beautifull thing and i love Quran.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours [i.e., Islam] that is not a part of it, will have it rejected. (Narrated by Al-Bukhaari, 2550; Muslim, 1718).
killerdon123 2 years ago
in doing dhikir there is no matter of Innovattion but if you like to that way then that is your way and this is our way. many thanks bye i dont have time this kind of things.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
Remember Allah abundantly, in order that you become successful"(8:45) "Only in the remembrance of Allah (swt) will your heart find peace"(13:28) Bid'ah oppression. suicide bombers, husbands imprisoning wives. He who starts a good sunnah will be rewarded for it, in addition to receiving rewards equal to the rewards of those who follow him into it. Whereas he who starts a bad sunnah will be burdened with it, in addition to receiving burdens equal to the burdens of those who follow him into it.
muslimahforpeace 2 years ago 2
thear will b time when people know that,s wronge but they will b so much in to it they thing it ,s part of relgious belive we all have desire to express our love its house of ALLAHA s b t and whats going in the name of relgion d,t go to any mulla read (QURAN PAKK) with traslation and under stand it respect the house of ALLHAA s b t on day of judgment u have to ans ALLAHA s b t forgive us and give us wisdom to understand good and bad
1stofficer1st 2 years ago
MashAllah, very nice dhikr.
mainstreamIslam 2 years ago
This is some next bid'ah
erisolga 2 years ago
wahabis are a bidah, death to the taliban.
mvaseem2000 2 years ago
i second that, death the al-qaida also
iostream1 2 years ago
what does taliban have to do with wahabis?....that was random
sshoaib786 2 years ago
As for what you see happening in the video, it is part of this tariqa. Please read up on sufism, turuq and innovation. Sheikh Nuh Keller has written some articles and you can read his translation of al-maqasid and umdat us salik.
asrarulhaq2002 3 years ago
Bilals 2 nawafil after wudu. Did the prophet tell him to do this? No. So, he practised an act before he found out whether it was permissible for him to do it. The prophet told him AFTER he did it for a great length of time that he 'heard his footsteps in jannah'. So, can I say that the sahaba innovated? Yes, but they distinguished between good innovation and bad. There are countless examples amongst the sahabah, such as binding the Qur'an in a mushaf, or performing tarawih in jamaah.
asrarulhaq2002 3 years ago
Sahabas did that in Zikir front of Prophet SAW and its in Hadeeths so check out histroy of islam before listening to Neo Salafis
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago 13
can you please provide evidence's
killerdon123 2 years ago
do i have to give you evidence about doing sahabas doing zikir of ALLAH swt. what kind of Question is that its like saying provide evidence if sahabas used to pray. do you reject the dhikir of ALLAH come on wake up whats wrong with you. come can dhikir be out of islam if ALLAH swt in Quran "if you do Dhikir of me then i will remembe you too".
this is Nasheed and Dhikir in ths video and IT IS NOT OUT OF ISLAM THINK WHAT EVER YOU LIKE TO THINK BUT PLEASE DONT GO STRAY.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
sorry it seems like you have mis understood what i asked for i said PLEASE can you provide evidence to back your theory to say that zikr was practised excessively like in this video by the sahaba
many thanks
killerdon123 2 years ago
Ibn `Umar reported, "The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, `When you pass by a garden of paradise, avail yourselves of it.' The Companions asked, `What are the gardens of Paradise, O Messenger of Allah?" The Prophet, peace be upon him, replied, `The assemblies of dhikr. There are some angels of Allah who go about looking for such assemblies of dhikr, and when they find them they surround them. in another Hadith circle of Sahabas doing Dhikir they said we are doing Dhikir for sake of ALLAH swt.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
where can i find this hadith?
killerdon123 2 years ago
[Quoted from Fiqh us-Sunnah compiled by As-Sayyid Sabiq, vol. 4, ch. 6.]
but maybe it is in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
And remember your Lord within yourself, humbly and with fear without loudness in words in the mornings, and in the afternoons and be not of those who are neglectful The Noble Qur'an Al-Araf 7.205
killerdon123 2 years ago
nobody is getting load its just Nasheed in Zikir thats all and varily Quran is the trueth
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
Islam is a way of life as we both know; Islam is a peaceful religion Islam is also simple as Muslims it is our duty to adhere strictly to the Quran and Sunnah there is no unity amongst us Muslims today because we are leaving the example of the prophet (pbuh) and following our own desires. Now let me point out this dancing that we see above us was this practised by the final prophet of Allah?
killerdon123 2 years ago
Their Salat (prayer) at the House (of Allah, i.e. the Ka'bah at Makkah) was nothing but whistling and clapping of hands. The Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:34
killerdon123 2 years ago
sorry the correct reference to the above verse is verse 35 and not 34.
killerdon123 2 years ago
your taking the quran as an ordinary book, hence you make mistakes as above.
the most basic of understanding Quran is, firstly, master the arabic language and its sciences, then, then let the ayah and the hadith interact to reveal the beutifull pearls of wisdom and guidence it gives.
this was not the traditon of the sahaba, the great sahabah learnt ,accadamicley and sprutually from teachers and guides to obtain sared knowlege,
smashingpot 2 years ago
The mistake I made was down to user error it wasn't down to me taking the Qur'an as an ordinary book. Besides I picked up the mistake and have corrected it. Yes I agree with you the Sahabah learnt academically and spiritually from the best of guides the final messenger of Allah and from each other.
killerdon123 2 years ago
some of our muslim brothers have loud dhikir and this brother maybe he likes to do dhikir like this if hes worng ALLAH knows best. its between him and his RABB. who are to say something.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
So you are admitting these people may be at fault with their practises.. well am glad you have opened up to that may Allah guide us both and the Muslim ummah towards the haq the truth of which the final messenger of Allah was upon and those of his companions. Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven. But if they return (thereto), then the examples of those (punished) before them have already preceded (as a warning) Noble Qur'an - Al-Anfal 8:38
killerdon123 2 years ago
they are doing anything fault or haram. its just that you cant see the truth and we change Quran to fit our ideas like you said cant do loud zikir. yes that Ayath is kufars not to be used for muslims who are already following so go used that ayath on kufars please brother. i dont time for your arguments we should be busying in prayers and zikir and learn deen then this kind of things. also stop useing ayaths on muslims which came for kufars.
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
So now what you are saying is that these people are acting upon the Quran and sunah by carrying out these acts? The ayah I have quoted above was not targeted at you specifically it is a reminder to all that Allah is most forgiving.
Verily, this Quran guides to that which is most just and right and gives glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allah and His Messenger, Muhammad SAW). Who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a great reward (Paradise) Al-Isra 17:9
killerdon123 2 years ago
yes Quran is right always but you also said doing loud zikir is not allowed which is not true it is allowed these people are not doing anything fault or haram, they just doing zikir of ALLAH SWT and Reading the Nasheed please brother move on i dont time for this kind of things
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
I have given to you evidence according to the Quran that doing loud zikr is not permissible and you still choose to reject that evidence and you then state that the Quran is right I am rather confused by what you believe please enlighten me and explain why is loud zikr like this permissible according to the Quran and sunnah and not according to some one out of the slums. Many thanks
killerdon123 2 years ago
in Quran ALLAH swt said you can do Zikir of ALLAH by setting or standing but it never ever and no way its in Quran that anything about loud or quite zikir. so im saying we love Quran and sunnah Sahabas used to do zikir all them time in groups on for the sake of ALLAH swt for his love theres nothing to be confuse i beleive this is Zikir of ALLAH swt and its Nasheed and theres nothing in wronge in this. your arugement is point less. thank you
rabbaniqadri 2 years ago
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killerdon123 2 years ago
When you have finished As-Salat (the prayer - congregational), remember Allah standing, sitting down, and (lying down) on your sides, but when you are free from danger, perform As-Salat (Iqamat¬ as¬ Salat). Verily, As-Salat (the prayer) is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours. The Noble Quran an-Nisa 4:103
The above verse those not justify loud zikr Allah should be remembered constantly weather that's sitting, standing or lying down
killerdon123 2 years ago
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At the moment were going right back to the beginning were going around in circles because you don't seem to understand what am asking for I am asking you to give me a ayah a verse in the Quran which justifies loud zikr please simple.
killerdon123 2 years ago
did the children of Madinah not dance and rejoice when the Messenger of Allah first visited????
also brother, you seem to be quoting ayah after ayah, thats all good, but surely, refrence to the ayah needs to be backed up by hadith, thats why we get,extremist justying their version of topics such as ,jihad,hijab,ie,and then form thier own ideology of the deen .
because people are takeing Quran litteretley,
you need wisdom and hikma to learn sacred knowledge, and we get these from our teachers.
smashingpot 2 years ago
Aslam aliukum sorry for late reply was engaged in the last days of Ramadan a lot of zikr alhamdilah Ok first of all I would like to say that when the children of Medina sang for the propht the first thing he caled them upon was tawhid he didnt advise them to stop their singin and then and call them upon tawhid as this would not make sense all prophets called their nations tribe towards tawhid first As for gainig refernce from the above vrses of the Qur'an I suggest you read from Tafsir Ibn Kathr
killerdon123 2 years ago
As for whether he himself did it or not, that does not prove its impermissibility. He did not teach grammar lessons, nor did he open madrasahs. Is it haram to open a madrasah? For innovation, you have to understand how to distinguish between good innovation and bad innovation.
asrarulhaq2002 3 years ago
Is there precedent for this in the sunnah? Yes...the ethiopians danced in the mosque of our nabi (saw), jaffar sadiq danced in front of our prophet, imam ali hopped around the prophet. The prophet asked him what he was doing. He replied the ethiopians do this when they hear good news. So dancing is allowed.
asrarulhaq2002 3 years ago
It will be nice if they read Quran or had lecteurs that will help they daily worship or the community it may be worthted to post it.But group of man jumping ups and down i dont think ever our prophet(pboh) nor who came after him did such thing , this is far from what real Sufis daily worship did we just took what our desire attracted to .
The prophete (pboh) sad every novation in the DEEN is in hell fire . So prouve me that this is not inovation and where in Islam says is lawful ??? thanks
saifodinne 3 years ago
It's funny that ur asking me to help instead being (pot) pblm !! and all what i did is stating Hadith of prohet(pboh)
(1) are you watching the same clip ? cause to me grown man jumping up n down and splaning his legs that is not islamic nor part of our worship .
(2) i didnt say that im salafi nor wahabi so you just commited a sin and u should ask for forgiveness.
(3) The prophete(pboh)sad(who's so ever see wrong doing....change it) so why should i relax? u may join them n do so but not me .
saifodinne 3 years ago
which part is un-islamic? is it un-islamic to dance? or un-islamic to praise the prophet SAW?
qadiriya 2 years ago 2
May Allah bless you all, mashallah very nice vid.
7jem331 3 years ago
The prophet(saw)had worned us againts those who's deviated from his path in Bukhari and Muslim and sad: There people who's skin is like ours and who's language is like ours they will mixed the correct statement with bad one , they stand at the gates of hellfire if you listen to them they will push you in .
The Prophet(saw) nor did his sahaba(r) did anything like this, so why do you take either fake or weak Hadith and you blow it to make it fit your agenda .
Fear Allah this is inovation .
saifodinne 3 years ago
the quran covers evryfing..but the hadeeth and sunnah cover it all in more detail:both are the 'explanation' of the quran (the tashreeh)..e.g the hadeeth tell us the etiquette and method of prayer and the quran only tells us when to etc
Maddscientists 3 years ago
Ibn Layun at-Tujibi said, As for dancing in the mosque, it is in the sahih muslim collection from A`isha who said, An army came from Ethiopia beating drums on the day of the feast in the mosque. The Prophet invited me and I put my palms on his shoulders and watched them play.
Ibn Aynia said that zafaf was to dance. So it is confirmed that dancing is permissible. If it was forbidden in its essence, it would not have been done in the presence of the Messenger of Allah(alaihi salaam).
mainstreamIslam 3 years ago
mashaALlah
mainstreamIslam 3 years ago
to xxxkimixxx:
morocco would not exist if it werent tassawuf. it preserved islam in morocco and kept it alive. any moroccan scholar of islam in any time period that contributed to the essence of our deen who wasnt a master of the sufis.ex: ibn abi zayd RA and more! Subhanallah, these people who call this bidaa are lost and may Allah SWT save them, and help them. they hide behind these phrases to protect their minds from wht they dont understand. may allah preserve these circles of dhikr! AMIN
iby2k1 3 years ago
i sincerely suggest you go and learn about Islam and the dhikr our great prophet(pbuh) and his followers did and STOP INSULTING THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY MOVED BY THE REMEMBERANCE OF THEIR GOD, and know that even animals know who created them.
also for quran verses and hadith look at my page, there is many more, which you will find out if you truely seek the knowledge
if you r against dhikr, then u r in the wrong "group", if you don't believe me you will find out in the afterlife!
MzMuslima 3 years ago 3
(ed. I removed the post which MzMuslima gave such a nice reply to above. Hence her response may seem out of place, but she is right and we all hope to be in dhikr in the afterlife together!)
PureHeartMultimedia 3 years ago
insha'allah...totally
so ameeen
MzMuslima 3 years ago
fab dhikr--loved listening to it
haleema1074 3 years ago 2
masha'allah
jazakallah
MzMuslima 3 years ago
masha'Allah
Salam from Nakshibandi Sufi's of Turkey Menzil
Haaaayyyy
Yusuf256 3 years ago 4
Bury is in Greater Manchester
MyFutUrFace 3 years ago
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Bukhari Book 4 Volume 52 Hadith 235 Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari: We were in the company of Allah's Apostle (during Hajj). Whenever we went up a high place we used to say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and Allah is Greater," and our voices used to rise, so the Prophet said, "O people! Be merciful to yourselves (i.e. don't raise your voice), for you are not calling a deaf or an absent one, but One Who is with you, no doubt He is All-Hearer, ever Near (to all things)."
yunis170690 3 years ago 4
Salam Alykum,nice video. Anyone fakir from Malaysia? Mind to share?
jackparcel 3 years ago
Wsalam Jackparcel. Me from malaysia. So far I havnt got any video to share but to share in knowledge and understanding in this matter especially in sufism and related to zikirullah, I'd love too. Im in the process of learning and understanding. InshaAllah
al1ishq 3 years ago
The heart that not melt when hearing the name of Allah, mean heartless.
al1ishq 3 years ago 10
amazing
mujaid1 3 years ago 2
Is there a way to get this video or on CD?
muslimalmumin1 3 years ago
Slander! Bury is in Lancashire! Theres no such thing as Greater Manchester, it's ficticious.
ambulletz 3 years ago
As in the Quran says: ".... remember me in your standing, ruku', sujud, in the movement or still.... means we have to remember HIM in every second, every minutes and in every breath that we take. All of that in our daily life. So those movement they manifest it into form of dancing..In order to absorb the name of Allah in body, mind and soul. Sorry Im not good in explaining but just to share a little bit of my understanding towards the sufism especially in practicing the zikir. Wallahu a'lam
al1ishq 4 years ago
Thank you for that explanation; that's very interesting, and beautiful.
spindw 3 years ago
Mashallah
Thanks for uploading
haamedpashasiddiqui 4 years ago
the Quran covers all walks of life
MarocMoro007 4 years ago
salaam oe alaikoem warahmatoelahi wabarakatoe
it is important because if he doesnt keep the rythm going they maybe wont say everything in once togheter maybe the other keeps a slower rythm and an other man keeps a faster rythm he is there to compansaint the voice in one.
zoogdier 4 years ago
Salaam oe alaikoem warahmatoelahi wabarakatoe
zaemnos: he does that to keep the rhythm the is very important and because he leads them, thats why I hope I informed you enough
zoogdier 4 years ago
Wa alaikum as Salaam,
What he is doing is called 'Hadrah' in which one uses the breath and the body to totally involve yourself in repeating the name Allah (for instance). It is about as far from the CONCEPT of 'dancing' as a person can get!
PureHeartMultimedia 4 years ago
salaam again BROTHER OR SISTER IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT PLEASE DONT ACUSE ME OF SAYING THINGS I DID NOT?MAY ALLAH FORGIVE YOU,salaam
billya123 4 years ago
salaam.dear eldopesta ,before you jump to conclusions and put words into my mouth PLEASE read the argument before you say something,have you not read the hadith about what the rasul pbuh said,(if you do not have anything good to say then don't speak)salaam
billya123 4 years ago
nice tune
hamster700 4 years ago
:D:D:D sub haa nallah
mashallah ver beautifulll
ehle sunna wal jama across the globe
from pakistan to indonesia to south africa n africa to morocco to syria bosnia turkey
we still firmly in controll
wahabia fading out
ess2k456 4 years ago
Bism'illah,
Look at your OWN faults. Allah will be the one to judge us.
PureHeartMultimedia 4 years ago
You're being unfair. First of all they do their prayers, and read their verses of the koran DAILY. dikr comes afterwards. And there is nothing bad, stupid or anything else about getting together and praising god. You are turning ISlam into catholicism or orthodoxy when you claim these things.
obm1412 4 years ago
نعم كانوا يرقصون
بس ماكان الرقص بنية العبادة
jeddawy87 4 years ago
graded sahih by whom? can u plz send me the matin of this hadith to me please?
abuqais 4 years ago
salaam i dont think this is the proper way to make dikir,did the rasul pbuh to this?i dont think so,
billya123 4 years ago
Well don't think so, and leave them in peace. They are good muslims who like praising their god and prophet in this fashion. They do NOT hurt themselves, pray to idols or anything of the sort. There is nothing in the Koran that barrs this practice. Not all hadiths, even those considered 'sahiha' can be dubious. Wallah aalam.
obm1412 4 years ago
salaam brother,if its not mentiond in the quraan doesa that mean you can do it?no of course not!!!but from what ive heard from a lot of pious people that these actions are not permitted,but like you said wallah aalam and allah knows best,btw eid mubarak to you and your family brother
salaam
billya123 4 years ago
To me the Koran is the only guide. But if you want ahadith you can go back to the first comments on this video and you'll see that people have provided the ahadith that show that the prophet did not mind such practices. Moreover, please try to ascertain things by yourself. "pious people" are not the ultimate reference. The Koran is.
Peace
obm1412 4 years ago
Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 802:
Narrated Abu Ma'bad:
obm1412 4 years ago
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 802:
Narrated Abu Ma'bad:
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
brother this still does not prove that what they are doin is sunnah!
billya123 4 years ago
lol u idiott. ignorence is the desease of this area, shaykh yaqoubi listen his speach.
n YESS what is haram is haram
what is halal is halal
n which is not stated in quran n hadith as either is also halal :D
so its ur job 2 prove it rong from quran n hadith not out job to prove it rite ;)
catch ma flow najdi??
ess2k456 4 years ago
Aid mubarak to you and your family as well my man!
Peace
obm1412 4 years ago
may allah curse the wahabi aqeeda and give victory to the ahle sunnah, ameen
bulleh1 4 years ago
cool which tariqa are there from. i can see naqshband brothers there
su2cool 4 years ago
The brothers are followers of Shaykh Sidi Hamza Al Qadiri Al Boutchichi from Morocco. You are correct because the Naqshbandi brothers and sisters of Bury were hosting the event.
PureHeartMultimedia 4 years ago
For any action to be accepted in Islam 2 conditions must be present: 1:sincere intention for Alaah alone 2:Action being done must be in accordance with the prophets teachings. If both conditions aren't present then your falling into 2 major sins! 1:shirk=associating a partner with allaah in worship 2:biddah=bringing a new action for which there isn't any proof. These brothers might have 1 present but 2 is nowhere to be seen.
chilling82 4 years ago
Wahhabism is not Ahl Sunna ! Its founder is Muhammed al Wahhab, its grandfather is Ibn Taimiyyah, who was arrested because of his heretic teachings. There was no Wahhabi sect before M. al Wahhab, so they are Bid'a. They belong to the 72 groups !!
faruk715 4 years ago
I am also against Wahhabis
faruk715 4 years ago
But they are dangerous ! They destroy Ahl Sunna !
faruk715 4 years ago
you say saying Allah is dancing? May god guide you
eyub77 4 years ago
Allah!
eyub77 4 years ago
Sufism is the core of Sunni Islam ! Say "No" to Wahhabiyya and Salafiyya.
faruk715 4 years ago
"My Tariqa is Muhammadiya
do you know it ?
My sheikh called Muhammad saas,
i find his teachings in Quran and Sunnah,
mashallah the best tariqa of all. "
Brother watch out for what u are saying. "my tariqaat is best of all". Fear allah swt.
BattalinBabasi 4 years ago
My Tariqa is Muhammadiya
do you know it ?
My sheikh called Muhammad saas,
i find his teachings in Quran and Sunnah,
mashallah the best tariqa of all.
Marokhino 4 years ago
MASHA ALLAH, it is so warming to the heart to see people of all kinds sitting together and sharing union between souls for sake of Allah.
Better than sitting together and discussing sports/politics/weather. (which many wahhabi's do :)
makia786 4 years ago
masallah masallah morrocan dhikr, now i`ve seen morrocan dhikr i`m very happy because in the netherlands there are a few wahabi groups(morrocan & turkish people) thats saying dhikr is bidah and we don`t do dhikr in morroco and mawlid nawabi is bidah too and all that kind of trash but here is the real proof of morrocan dhikr
thuggeest 4 years ago
Mashallah
May Allah (SWT) help you guys for uploading
Haamed Pasha Siddiqui
Toronto May 01/2007
haamedpashasiddiqui 4 years ago
Musnad of Imaam Ahmed rahimahu Allah brother. Volume 6, the isnaad is from Muhammad bin Salama who is one of the narrators of Imam Muslim, and the other chain of narration is from the criterion of Bukhari. In short it is solid narration relayed by the Salaaf us Saleh. May Allah increase all our Imaan and tolerance Ameen. walaykum asalaam
UmBongo76 4 years ago
Imam Ahmad relates from Anas(RA), with a 100% sound chain like bukhari&Muslim criterion, that
the Ethiopians danced in front of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace); dancing and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad. 6 vols. Cairo 1313/1895. Reprint. Beirut: Dar Sadir, n.d.., 3.152)
UmBongo76 4 years ago
Sahih Muslim: Book 035, Number 6505:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying Allah has mobile (squads) of angels, who have no other work (to attend to but) to follow the assemblies of Dhikr and when they find such assemblies in which there is Dhikr (of Allah) they sit in them and some of them surround the others with ...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 802:
Narrated Abu Ma'bad:
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
...They (the angels) would again say: Our Lord, there is one amongst them such and such simple servant who happened to pass by (that assembly) and sat there along with them (who had been participating in that assembly). He (the Lord) would say: I also grant him pardon, for they are a people the seat-fellows of whom are in no way unfortunate.
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
... They would say: They beg of Thee forgiveness. He would say: I grant pardon to them, and confer upon them what they ask for and grant them protection against which they seek protection. ...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
Alhamdu'lillah! And attending a Dhikr is basically what attracted my heart to Islam in the first place.
PureHeartMultimedia 5 years ago
...They (the angels) would say: Our Lord, from the Hell-Fire. He (the Lord) would say: Have they seen My Fire? They would say: No. He (the Lord) would say: What it would be if they were to see My Fire?...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
...(What it would be then) if they were to see Mine Paradise? They (the angels) said: They seek Thine protection. He (the Lord) would say: Against what do they seek protection of Mine?...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
Be would say: What do they beg of Me? They would say: They beg of Thee the Paradise of Thine. He (God) would say: Have they seen My Paradise? They said: No, our Lord. He would say: ...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
...He is best informed about them: Where have you come from? They say: We come from Thine servants upon the earth who had been glorifying Thee (reciting Subhan Allah), uttering Thine Greatness (saying Allah o-Akbar) and uttering Thine Oneness (La ilaha ill Allah) and praising Thee (uttering al-Hamdu Lillah) and begging of Thee. ...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
...their wings till the space between them and the sky of the world is fully covered, and when they disperse (after the assembly of Dhikr is adjourned) they go upward to the heaven and Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, asks them although ...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
Sahih Muslim Book 035, Number 6505:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying Allah has mobile (squads) of angels, who have no other work (to attend to but) to follow the assemblies of Dhikr and when they find such assemblies in which there is Dhikr (of Allah) they sit in them and some of them surround the others with ...
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 802:
Narrated Abu Ma'bad:
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
Dear Sondoes, perhaps you will take a look at the video I just uploaded which gives PROOF FROM HADITH that Loud Dhikr in a group is NOT Bid'a. After all, we would be ignorant if we ignored the Hadith collected by Abu Hurayra! Salaam aleykum.
PureHeartMultimedia 5 years ago
MashAllah.
Imam Ahmad relates from Anas (Allah be well pleased with him), with a chain of transmission Sahih(Hammad bin Salama, that the Ethiopians danced in front of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace); dancing and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad.)
UmBongo76 5 years ago
Alhamdu'lillah!
Does there exist any record of Rasul'Allah's (s) reaction or response to hearing what they were saying?
PureHeartMultimedia 5 years ago
Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 802:
Narrated Abu Ma'bad:
(the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas) Ibn 'Abbas told me, "In the lifetime of the Prophet it was the custom to celebrate Allah's praises aloud after the compulsory congregational prayers." Ibn 'Abbas further said, "When I heard the Dhikr, I would learn that the compulsory congregational prayer had ended."
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
I'm failed to find such Hadees "chain of transmission" in book of Authentic Haddeeths (such Bukhari, Muslim, and few others). Would you mind to provide exact reference (page, chapter and book) that you are using to quote this narration. Thanks for yourtime.
sLaVEsMaSTeR 5 years ago
Here is link to video explaining that Hadeeth is even in Ibn Qayyim book! If not absolutely 100% acceptable (more than 99%) Ibn Qayyim would NEVER include it.
Also in Hadith Qudsi Imam Nawawi chapter Fadl Hilq al-Dhikr and in Hilyat al-Awliya' by Abu Na'im al-Asfahani under the chapter about Ziyad b. 'Abd Allah al-Numayri, chain of narration: Ibn Amr b. Hamdan, al-Hasan b. Sufyan, Muhammad b. Abi Bakr, Za'idah b. Abi al-Rafad, Ziyad b. al-Numayri, from Anas b. Malik)
PureHeartMultimedia 5 years ago