@jaguar4u2012 I'm sorry but you kinda lost me. Are you trying to defend Cain or Abel? And my views on murder are an eye for an eye. If you're ready to kill, you should be ready to be killed. But the Christian in me wants to say forgiveness is key. Even if that person is a murderer or dangerous, they shouldn't be killed. After all, what if they murdered someone who was even more dangerous and killed more ppl??
@jaguar4u2012 Its like the lesser of two evils is what I'm tryna say I guess. Like what if Osama Bin Laden killed Hitler or the other way around. How should I be killed? It seems you're just trying to be ignorant now. An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind. It causes a cycle of hate that can't be broken unless someone grows up and says stop. It can't be broken w/out forgiveness. But it takes alot to forgive. What is that most precious and valuable thing you speak of??
@jaguar4u2012 Haha You are so misguided bro. Like I said, its hard to forgive someone, it takes alot to do so. But when you forgive, you can go on with your life. When you have all that hate inside, you're going no where. I know my Mom or Bro wouldn't want me to live my life full of hate. They'd want me to move on. You become a murderer as well? Thats bull. The so called murderer will be judged by God, and will receive his punishment, but its not for us to do. And quit generalizing so much.
@jaguar4u2012 You haven't met every Christian in the world, so you have no idea of how we all feel. I personally don't give a crap what your sexual orientation is, we're all children of God all the same, and God loves us all, all the same. Everyone makes mistakes, so we should all strive to be like God and be merciful and forgiving of those mistakes, no matter how big they are.
@jaguar4u2012 You silly you? Ok Barney. You have your beliefs, I have mine. How am I ignorant? And I'm a coward for choosing forgiveness over revenge? Ghandi said forgiveness is of the strong, revenge is of the weak, or something like that. Its called being the bigger person. Just think, if you murder that person, their mom or someone else close to them is going to want to get revenge on you. Think about that.
@jaguar4u2012 Isn't parle that thing they say in Pirates of the Carribean? No one said anything about chocolate? Of course they'd be punished in some way. An eye for an eye makes you no better than the other eye, aka the murderer.
@jaguar4u2012 I'm sorry I honestly can't say I know what accure means. No one said it wasn't a horrible thing. No one said you can change the fact someone was killed. And honestly I'm not trying to convince you of anything, you've got your beliefs, and I've got mine. We both seem pretty set in them respectively. I'm just continuing the arguement and trying to prove my point I guess.
In my opinion Cain wasn't "first murderer" becouse Abel was the first one who killed another creature-animal for sacrifice to vain deity. Thats why Abel was a first world murderer not Cain. Who gived the right to Abel to killed an innocent animal??
(give me your hand, blood is spilt and man will follow infernal man, punishment too great to bear) Conceived and born was one of light Rain and dark, the other born black night. Raise your head and taste the courage (the one of light) Fall from grace, unholy night I've come here to kill you, won't leave until you've died Murder born of vengeance, I closed my brother's eyes tonight...
@tytheeman20 God knew it was going to happen, but he chose not to interfere with the lives of men, would u like it if God controled your life in every way o:?, to yea read the bible, see what you can find, then "f" off religion, if you find nothing ^^
@Kra2ybros I know, I was just being funny. There's a lot of good in religion but there are so many destructive evils as well that can really damage a person's well being. So, I can be spiritual and live a good life without it. ^^
@PresObama2012 Ok, why don't you work on getting over the colossal failure that is President Obama. Oops, I guess you already have and that is why you are cheering for him in 2012.
@PresObama2012 Perhaps you have had to face these questions before and I am striking a self-righteous nerve within you. You're a liberal, oh so full of compassion, but you understand that you cannot truly define goodness without an ultimate morality which implies an ultimate moral law-giver. Once you come to the conclusion of an ultimate law-giver, God, you find out that you are not as good as you once thought. In fact, you are down-right filthy and sinful and in need of a Saviour. You missed it
@wittymcwitterson Actually, you haven't struck anything. You haven't made one point that made me think about something. I just want you to get over it...wittymcwitterson..."down-right filthy and sinful and in need of a Saviour"? I wasn't aware you knew me. The only thing you've proven is that you feel very comfortable blindly judging people you don't know.
@PresObama2012 So, you're not in need of a Saviour? I know enough about every man to say that they are down-right filthy and sinful and in need of a Saviour. That is not a blind judgment. That is biblical truth.
@PresObama2012 By the way, you started this. I wasn't talking to you(unless you have multiple user names). The original post that I commented on struck something in me. That is why I commented. If I haven't struck anything in you or made you think about something, then why are we having this conversation? I have made a judgment that you simply disagree with me but you can't engage me intellectually in the discussion that I had tried to initiate w/ tytheeman20. If you disagree, can u tell me why?
@PresObama2012 I am only allowed to care about what PresObama2012 gives me permission to care about. I am only allowed to speak to people that PresObama2012 tells me I can speak to. I have to "get over" what I am concerned about but he does not have to get over what I am concerned about. HEY EVERYBODY, REMEMBER TO CONSULT THIS GUY OVER HERE TO SEE IF WHAT YOU THINK IS WORTHY TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT! HE IS A REAL MENTAL GIANT. NOT ONLY DID HE VOTE FOR THE BIG B.O. ONCE, HE PLANS TO DO IT AGAIN!
I heard the mark was a big Nose on his face that grew bigger and bigger with every sin and every lie he told until it completely made him a Jew . ha ha ha ha ha ---- Well never mind ! it's just something a black dude told me , ha ha ha ha it's probably all B.S. I don't believe it !!
@nkssk5 the real Bible story of this says that Cain brought God the worst of his harvest and saved the best for himself. Abel however brought the very best of his flock and offered it to God. God was pleased with Abel's offering more because it was a true offering. Cain became angry at this (again selfishness) and killed Abel. So God punished Cain for his sin. Thanks to Jesus though we do not need to give sacrifices anymore because He is the ultimate sacrifice. For more info, inbox me.
@DubRainbow I must interpret the story differently then, because I don't think it ever states in the account found in Genesis why exactly God did not accept the offering.
But then in Hebrews 11:4 it states ---> "By faith Abel offered to God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was approved as a righteous man, because God approved his gifts, and even though he is dead, he still speaks through his faith."
Thing I take away is Abel offered his sacrifice in faith, Cain didn't
@SonofCarmelo that's exactly how i see it too. but even thought it doesn't really state what the sin was, you can just see that it was sort of selfishness as well.
@DubRainbow Ha! How appropriate. Never thought a parent would name their kid Cain. I always thought that name had to much negativity associated with it like the name Judas. I want to meet somebody named Judas and see if the name hasn't affected their life in a negative manner.
@SonofCarmelo i know right?? I mean the first person with that name was the first murderer on the earth. But maybe the parents didnt know about that. Hmm tis a mystery
@DubRainbow No, it does not. Abel's offering typified the shedding of Christ's blood and Cain's offering illustrated the work of man. Abel, in his offering, showed his faith in the coming Messiah who would make the ultimate payment for the sin of mankind. God's rejection of Cain's offering had nothing to do with the quality of the items. If what you're saying is true, then Cain's offering would have been accepted if it had been the best he had. But the point is that man has nothing to offer God.
"Priest, we brought you our offering." I thought that Adam and Eve only had Cain and Abel. Where did the priest come from? And for that matter, were did the cameraman come from???
@oldirishladdie 'Sactly. The first humans were black, and evolved as a species - not a couple of individuals - in Etheopia - Africa.
Either way, this whole thing begs the question: If Cain and Abel were Adam and Eve's only kids, not only does that mean Cain had incestual relations with his mother, but his mother also had sex with the person who killed her son.
@Vehementi Also, in a fictional sense, it could be argued that this was all God's fault, in the first place.
I mean, not only did he make it so that both Cain and Abel would desire his approval, but he also instilled jealousy by saying that Abel's offering was better than Cain's.
Surely, he could've just thanked them both, and said "I'm proud of both of you equally" or something?
@oldirishladdie Because it's christianity. It was at first the white man's religion and still is. Just a bunch a ignorant fucks *cough* black people *cough* who are christians too. So of course they're gonna be white.
this story shows how sick the bible's teachings are - the moral of the story is that the big strong brute lives and supposedly 'wins' while the goody able ends up DEAD! yeah dead, punk. Jesus is the same type of story - moral - good guy ends up dead loser. Christians worship the brute, the one of force - the cross is just lipstick.
the "devil" plays for keeps, kids. The Bible is itself the fruit of good n evil.
@morebeauty everyting u just said sounds like a bunch of crap, u barely make any sense.....and next time u want to insult any religion or a sacred book i suggest u get ur info straight and justify your self with facts...thanx for wasting 2 min of my precious time on an idiot like u pfffft!!!!
people just read the bible, God said to adam and eve to be fruitful and increase in number, Adam lived 930 years, God told them to get busy for 930 years thats a heck of a lot of children. The bible is written in a specific manner for specific reasons, there is a reason why Cain and Abel were written and not the maybe (8400 estimate) children that adam had.
If Adam and Eve were the very first people, scratched out of the very dirt of Eden. . . and Cain and Abel were their very first children . . . and Cain killed Abel . . . why would he be afraid of everyone else wanting to kill him in revenge? Why did God put a mark on him as protection? Protection from WHO? Who are all these other people? Who are the people from this other land that he was exiled to? Where the hell did they all come from? It doesn't make any frickin sense!!
@rmcdaniel423 Me and my wife discovered this.. The story just don't add up. 1. cain runs off to marry his wife. Who is she? The bible name there children and when there children have children the bible give there names.. why not give the name of cain's wife?2. God gave adam and eve another son by the name of Seth. Ans the bible gives the name of all his children and so forth. where do the women come in at if they keep having sons? Something just isn't right here..
@Xanith83 very good question. When I was in the play Children of Eden I asked the same question. The night I asked the director went home and researched it. When she returned she said that God placed the wife in the waste land for Cain. I guess he had to give Cain a wife because he told Cain all his off spring would be cursed. So Cain needs a wife to have children.
Re: Cain and Able............. An allegorical story to depict the nomadic herdsman way of life being overtaken by the farming community. Why all the woo?
heres a real thinker.. if cain and abel were the sons of adam and eve.. and adam and eve were the first people on the earth.. what other people was kane afraid of to meet in the wilderness, that god put a mark upon him?
@tattooshopjunkie Cain was afraid of his own brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces, who were already born and would be capable of seeking revenge. The fact that Cain had a wife (Genesis 4:17) is a further evidence that Adam and Eve had other children after Cain and Abel, but before Seth.
@MrJaredML In Genesis 4:13-14, shortly after he killed his brother Abel, Cain said to the LORD, My punishment is more than I can bear. Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me. Who exactly was Cain afraid of? The only people the book of Genesis had mentioned to this point are Adam and Eve (Cains parents) and Abel (who was now dead).
@MrJaredML I assume he was afraid that maybe his parents would kill him. I'm sure he knew that his parents were going to have more offsprings and that they may live for just under 1,000 years. So maybe one of his brothers or sisters could have killed him. Then there are his children and his brothers' and sisters' children. Then their children.
@MrJaredML It is important to recognize that Cain and Abel were both full-grown adults at the time that Cain killed Abel. Both Cain and Abel were farmers, who tended to their own lands and flocks (Genesis 4:2-4). The Bible does not tell us how old Cain and Abel were, but they very likely could have been in their 30s or 40s. The Bible does not specifically mention Adam and Eve having any children between Abel and Seth (Genesis 4:25).
@MrJaredML However, it is highly unlikely that the two most perfect human beings in the history of the world, Adam and Eve, would not have any children over several decades. Adam and Eve had many children after Seth (Genesis 5:4), so why would they not also have had other children between Abel and Seth? The Bible does not say that Seth was Adam and Eves first child, or even first son, after Abel was killed.
@MrJaredML Rather, it states that Seth was born as a replacement for Abel. Genesis chapter 5 traces the genealogy of Seth. Prior to his death, Abel was likely the chosen son that would eventually produce the Messiah (Genesis 3:15). It is in this sense that Seth replaced Abel.
@tattooshopjunkie well that information was passed down to not only cain but to all the children of Adam and Eve because they took fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The reason it was significant was because Cain was the first to actually do this.
cain was the prick u idiot, he was envious, when i lose a game even though i tried my best, i dont get envious of my fellow opponent players who were better, GOD IS GREAT
We know that from Gen. to the 4 Gospels the only acceptable offering was a lamb and Christ represented the Great Lamb. Therefore when Abel brought his offering to the Lord it showed that he knew Christ, but Cain couldn't even humble himself to ask his brother for a sheep for an offering so he relied on his own skill of gathering wheat which was not acceptable. This meant that Cain didn't know Christ because of his pride and stubborness (1 Sam. 15:23) and that plus jealousy led Cain to kill Abel
So let me see if I got it right. This god favored a murdered animal but frowned on fruit that someone worked just as hard to bring as a sacrifice... Then out of nowhere his brother flips out and kills Abel. Because this god says he likes BLOOD sacrifices more and then tells these, apparently feeble minded creatures, about it ? Some intelligent design. This a terrible story. It's no wonder so many people have twisted values and morals.
You must look deeper. God probably did not necessarily care about what the offering was but more about the condition of the hearts of Cain and Abel. Its ridiculous to judge god by one story that probably leaves out a lot of information.
@matttarpley The issue wasn't blood sacrifice vs. plant. It was the fact that Abel had brought the best he had and plenty of it willingly. Cain brought a low-quality offering and hadn't put much effort or thought into it, and didn't bring it with a generous attitude.
actually, when God turned away caines offering caine became jealous and angry at his brother and killed him with a stone and therefore caine was the first to kill out of anger.
WE ARE GOD!
WE ARE JUSTICE!
WE ARE THE RULES!
for every bad person with bad values, there are three good people!
all we must to is kick the shit of Evil!
and mentain in power, keep the democracy, and protect the weak!
jaguar4u2012 6 days ago
Dont expect your mom to wash for you and feed you all your life!
Learn to be a powerfull individual,
dont expect Some other human or "God" (that 100% doesnt exist) to do important things
that you should do!
If I see kids bullieng another kid, I wont be a pathetic christian like you (thinking, god will punish them)
No, I will make those bullies flea like Rabbits in diffrent direction
and I will try to give the boy some guides and advices about how better fight them
jaguar4u2012 6 days ago
Realistic cat!!!! :D:D:D
KyleBlazeTHEBEST 1 week ago
Forgivness is Good!
But you must know when its Right and when its Wrong to Forgive!
otherwise Forgivness is a pointless Cheap Shit!
you must yearn forgivness!
a fucking Murderer who killed someone so he could get his 20$
Should not be Forgiven just because he started worshiping your False God!
but still I dont think someone deserves eternity in hell, ofcourse there is no Hell!
its all myths!
but even if it was!
how could you sleep at night knowing that person is still in agony
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 None of what you said makes sense.
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
by the way "Abel" in Hebrew means "Sarrow"
he was just begging to Die ><
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
God Prefered Blood and Guts of a Murdered Animal
Rather than Fresh just Harvested, Vegtables and fruits that were Grown with hard work and sweat for a whole year!
how hard is it to kill a lamb (its actually extremely hard to do unless you are a sick cruel savage)?
what this stroy teaches us?
That God prefers Blood? and he doesnt respect hard work?! WTF? is this Justice?
Well he wanted Blood, Cain gave him some More Blood!
God should be happy!
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 If you actually read the whole story, you'd know God was trying to teach Cain a lesson.
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
well "Abel" learned his lesson "Animal Abuse is Wrong"
well Cain is a poor tortured Insane soul
No matter how Nasty is the person we shouldnt kill them!
Murder is wrong
(Unless that person is a murderer and Dangerous)
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 I'm sorry but you kinda lost me. Are you trying to defend Cain or Abel? And my views on murder are an eye for an eye. If you're ready to kill, you should be ready to be killed. But the Christian in me wants to say forgiveness is key. Even if that person is a murderer or dangerous, they shouldn't be killed. After all, what if they murdered someone who was even more dangerous and killed more ppl??
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
dude, you dont make any sense!
why would you kill a person who killed a person who was a Dangerous?!
By your logic you should be killed as well then!
and keep your Christian Slimmy Hypocracy to yourself!
Christians burned alive more inoccent people than all religions combined!
eye for an eye is a MUST!
a person who took away the most precious and valueable thing on earth, should not be forgiven!
why should he be forgiven?
he mite even do it again!!!
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 Its like the lesser of two evils is what I'm tryna say I guess. Like what if Osama Bin Laden killed Hitler or the other way around. How should I be killed? It seems you're just trying to be ignorant now. An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind. It causes a cycle of hate that can't be broken unless someone grows up and says stop. It can't be broken w/out forgiveness. But it takes alot to forgive. What is that most precious and valuable thing you speak of??
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
"Life" you moron!
Im speaking about "Life"
well, lets see how will you forgive someone who murders your mother or little brother
by forgiving him, you dishoner those who died, and all so you become a Murderer as well!
because you will allow him to Continue killing!
Killing a man who did this, is not murder! its a Must!
you Christians claim all gays should be killed and burn in hell!
and yet you Forgive and Accept the Murderers!
you are all Sick!
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 Haha You are so misguided bro. Like I said, its hard to forgive someone, it takes alot to do so. But when you forgive, you can go on with your life. When you have all that hate inside, you're going no where. I know my Mom or Bro wouldn't want me to live my life full of hate. They'd want me to move on. You become a murderer as well? Thats bull. The so called murderer will be judged by God, and will receive his punishment, but its not for us to do. And quit generalizing so much.
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 You haven't met every Christian in the world, so you have no idea of how we all feel. I personally don't give a crap what your sexual orientation is, we're all children of God all the same, and God loves us all, all the same. Everyone makes mistakes, so we should all strive to be like God and be merciful and forgiving of those mistakes, no matter how big they are.
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
there is no God you silly you!
no one will punish them!
you took the "Cowardly" position! youre an ignorant coward!
if someone would have me, my parents would search the earth for the man who did it, and smight him!
or if someone will do someone to my mom I will make him wish he was never benn born!
you cant Forgive such things, you may have Mercy, but not forgivness
murderers shouldnt be ALIVE!
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 You silly you? Ok Barney. You have your beliefs, I have mine. How am I ignorant? And I'm a coward for choosing forgiveness over revenge? Ghandi said forgiveness is of the strong, revenge is of the weak, or something like that. Its called being the bigger person. Just think, if you murder that person, their mom or someone else close to them is going to want to get revenge on you. Think about that.
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
Ok Fine! youre right!
Parle?
We put him in a deepest Dungeon and let him Rot there for decades till he die like the cockroach he is!
is that fine by you?!
or perhaps you would like to give the murderers Choclotes and candies?!
a person who accidently killed someone, can be forgiven, and musnt be killed for god sakes!
but a cold blooded murderer should be punished fully!
eye for an eye makes the other eyes safe!
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 Isn't parle that thing they say in Pirates of the Carribean? No one said anything about chocolate? Of course they'd be punished in some way. An eye for an eye makes you no better than the other eye, aka the murderer.
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
yes it is! parle is all so French for "talk"
and dont take the "Choclate thing Literaly"
they shouldnt be punished in some way, they should wish they were never born!
Gadafi was a horrible man, but the way those muslims murdered him was barbaric,
it all depends!
even if you have mercy, that person should be marked for his entire life, and lose all joys of life!
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 Ahhh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.So its safe to say you don't believe in second chances?
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
like I allready said, it all depends!
if someone was mean to you, and later apologised and whats to be your friend,
forgive him.
now tell me, a person who DIED, gets a second chance? can he come back to life?
murder is accure out of uncarring, Greed, evil and cruelty,
its a Horrible thing you cant change!
did you kill someone? why you so desperately trying to convince me its ok to forgive murderers and serial killers?
jaguar4u2012 1 week ago
@jaguar4u2012 I'm sorry I honestly can't say I know what accure means. No one said it wasn't a horrible thing. No one said you can change the fact someone was killed. And honestly I'm not trying to convince you of anything, you've got your beliefs, and I've got mine. We both seem pretty set in them respectively. I'm just continuing the arguement and trying to prove my point I guess.
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
it doesnt matter, if you wont do it! I WILL! and you wont stop me!
and when you will defend the murderer, what you think everyone will think of you?!
its our life, our Judgment is what makes this world Tamted!
you think Murderers and Villains should be forgiven and keep skipping in fields with flowers and killing more people
while people like me Create Threat for those killers, and making this world Balanced!
they will think twice if they know I will hunt them
jaguar4u2012 6 days ago
@jaguar4u2012 Whatever floats your boat sailor.
77hiphopaintdead77 3 days ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
wow Such a long Delay!
you are like a fluorescent lamp!
and Im not a Sailor Im the Captain
jaguar4u2012 2 days ago
@jaguar4u2012 Sorry, couldn't get to the internet. Again, whatever floats your boat, whatever sizzles your steak.
77hiphopaintdead77 2 days ago
@77hiphopaintdead77
In Case of Logic Break the Glass, take out the Bible, and cover your Ears!
jaguar4u2012 2 days ago
@jaguar4u2012 Ok?
77hiphopaintdead77 1 day ago
@jaguar4u2012 You use a lot of exclamation marks lol
77hiphopaintdead77 1 week ago
In my opinion Cain wasn't "first murderer" becouse Abel was the first one who killed another creature-animal for sacrifice to vain deity. Thats why Abel was a first world murderer not Cain. Who gived the right to Abel to killed an innocent animal??
bot16 2 weeks ago
@bot16 If you read the Bible, I believe that God did.
ElectromechanicPyro 1 week ago
samuriguy909 1 month ago
abel gave jesus everything he had
miksulder 3 months ago
haha brilliant!
notdemocratic 3 months ago
If God is God, he would've already seen that Cain murdered Abel. The Bible needs to make up it's mind. Fuck religion, I quit.
tytheeman20 3 months ago
@tytheeman20 God knew it was going to happen, but he chose not to interfere with the lives of men, would u like it if God controled your life in every way o:?, to yea read the bible, see what you can find, then "f" off religion, if you find nothing ^^
Kra2ybros 3 months ago
@Kra2ybros I know, I was just being funny. There's a lot of good in religion but there are so many destructive evils as well that can really damage a person's well being. So, I can be spiritual and live a good life without it. ^^
tytheeman20 3 months ago
@tytheeman20 How do you define "good"? Who decides what good is? Who are you to differentiate between good and evil?
wittymcwitterson 2 months ago
@wittymcwitterson Get over it...
PresObama2012 2 months ago
@PresObama2012 Ok, why don't you work on getting over the colossal failure that is President Obama. Oops, I guess you already have and that is why you are cheering for him in 2012.
wittymcwitterson 2 months ago
@PresObama2012 Perhaps you have had to face these questions before and I am striking a self-righteous nerve within you. You're a liberal, oh so full of compassion, but you understand that you cannot truly define goodness without an ultimate morality which implies an ultimate moral law-giver. Once you come to the conclusion of an ultimate law-giver, God, you find out that you are not as good as you once thought. In fact, you are down-right filthy and sinful and in need of a Saviour. You missed it
wittymcwitterson 2 months ago
@wittymcwitterson Actually, you haven't struck anything. You haven't made one point that made me think about something. I just want you to get over it...wittymcwitterson..."down-right filthy and sinful and in need of a Saviour"? I wasn't aware you knew me. The only thing you've proven is that you feel very comfortable blindly judging people you don't know.
PresObama2012 2 months ago
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@PresObama2012 So, you're not in need of a Saviour? I know enough about every man to say that they are down-right filthy and sinful and in need of a Saviour. That is not a blind judgment. That is biblical truth.
wittymcwitterson 2 months ago
@PresObama2012 By the way, you started this. I wasn't talking to you(unless you have multiple user names). The original post that I commented on struck something in me. That is why I commented. If I haven't struck anything in you or made you think about something, then why are we having this conversation? I have made a judgment that you simply disagree with me but you can't engage me intellectually in the discussion that I had tried to initiate w/ tytheeman20. If you disagree, can u tell me why?
wittymcwitterson 2 months ago
@PresObama2012 I am only allowed to care about what PresObama2012 gives me permission to care about. I am only allowed to speak to people that PresObama2012 tells me I can speak to. I have to "get over" what I am concerned about but he does not have to get over what I am concerned about. HEY EVERYBODY, REMEMBER TO CONSULT THIS GUY OVER HERE TO SEE IF WHAT YOU THINK IS WORTHY TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT! HE IS A REAL MENTAL GIANT. NOT ONLY DID HE VOTE FOR THE BIG B.O. ONCE, HE PLANS TO DO IT AGAIN!
wittymcwitterson 2 months ago
@wittymcwitterson Well end it. Bye.
PresObama2012 2 months ago
Now I see the problem of believing gods
manojsam79 3 months ago
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hpesojlrac 4 months ago
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hpesojlrac 4 months ago
Lol there are grapes on the narrator's head :D
StaleMilk12 4 months ago 2
@upmanza111 Avenged Sevenfold also got their name from this story. Interesting, I never noticed it was chapter four XD ....
vanaisthebomb 5 months ago
Great video!!!
Marsh16194 5 months ago
bastardo Abel
0WallStreet0 6 months ago
Really good!
GodsGenuineGift 6 months ago
I heard the mark was a big Nose on his face that grew bigger and bigger with every sin and every lie he told until it completely made him a Jew . ha ha ha ha ha ---- Well never mind ! it's just something a black dude told me , ha ha ha ha it's probably all B.S. I don't believe it !!
nicktesla45 9 months ago
Well written and received,the spirit of both can even beheld today.
4IAMATITOK 9 months ago
they were brown
RedWings216 9 months ago
I guess Ned Flanders is holding the camera
elbombardi 10 months ago
Actually really well done! :D
LOVERofPARKOUR 10 months ago
Nice video shot. The idea of the story is, take responsibility for your actions instead of blaming someone else for your consequences.
KBAFourthtime 10 months ago
i heart the sigur ros soundtrack yo
radiobrain94 11 months ago
serously does any one have the real cain and able
honeymore11 1 year ago
god's a dusche for being mean to cain :[ what'd cain do to him?
...dickwad...
nkssk5 1 year ago
@nkssk5 the real Bible story of this says that Cain brought God the worst of his harvest and saved the best for himself. Abel however brought the very best of his flock and offered it to God. God was pleased with Abel's offering more because it was a true offering. Cain became angry at this (again selfishness) and killed Abel. So God punished Cain for his sin. Thanks to Jesus though we do not need to give sacrifices anymore because He is the ultimate sacrifice. For more info, inbox me.
DubRainbow 10 months ago
@DubRainbow I must interpret the story differently then, because I don't think it ever states in the account found in Genesis why exactly God did not accept the offering.
But then in Hebrews 11:4 it states ---> "By faith Abel offered to God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was approved as a righteous man, because God approved his gifts, and even though he is dead, he still speaks through his faith."
Thing I take away is Abel offered his sacrifice in faith, Cain didn't
SonofCarmelo 5 months ago
@SonofCarmelo that's exactly how i see it too. but even thought it doesn't really state what the sin was, you can just see that it was sort of selfishness as well.
DubRainbow 5 months ago
@DubRainbow Fair enough, I can see where you're coming from. The whole Cain/Abel bible story really fascinates me.
SonofCarmelo 5 months ago
@SonofCarmelo it is very intriguing for sure. no joke, I met a guy named Cain today
DubRainbow 5 months ago
@DubRainbow Ha! How appropriate. Never thought a parent would name their kid Cain. I always thought that name had to much negativity associated with it like the name Judas. I want to meet somebody named Judas and see if the name hasn't affected their life in a negative manner.
SonofCarmelo 5 months ago
@SonofCarmelo i know right?? I mean the first person with that name was the first murderer on the earth. But maybe the parents didnt know about that. Hmm tis a mystery
DubRainbow 5 months ago
@DubRainbow No, it does not. Abel's offering typified the shedding of Christ's blood and Cain's offering illustrated the work of man. Abel, in his offering, showed his faith in the coming Messiah who would make the ultimate payment for the sin of mankind. God's rejection of Cain's offering had nothing to do with the quality of the items. If what you're saying is true, then Cain's offering would have been accepted if it had been the best he had. But the point is that man has nothing to offer God.
wittymcwitterson 2 months ago
why the fuck is cain using an axe to cut wheet? dumbass farmer :D
nkssk5 1 year ago
Isis Blue Nebadonia speaks to Humanity in the name of the Great Intergalactic Confederation of free worlds.
Message of the Great Intergalactic Confederation of Free Worlds -12-21-2010
Thanks !
Bastien69003 1 year ago
They did well.
Angeljosetoronto 1 year ago
"Priest, we brought you our offering." I thought that Adam and Eve only had Cain and Abel. Where did the priest come from? And for that matter, were did the cameraman come from???
mcaf51 1 year ago
WTF, I hate bible stories... not good for the kids and terribly inconsistent.
By definition, Murder means to kill intentionally.
According to this stupid bible story Humanity never experience death yet. Both Cain and Abel doesnt even know what Murder is.
Bible said Cain smote Abel, but Cain doesnt even know that it will result to Abel's death.
So how come God accused Cain of murder and terribly punished him?
The bible God is afterall not the all merciful and all loving god. He's an asshole.
RaptorsKiss 1 year ago
Well, Abel was killed by a rock. Nice job though. :D
BaseballAlpha28 1 year ago
what is the mark of cain?
denrue 1 year ago
So murder is good?
Unrealll6666 1 year ago
dude cane has braces
NomingMoon7 1 year ago 2
bum sex
LostTheGameXD 1 year ago
So that's what happened to Jim Bob! ; )
Wit 1 year ago
Who said these people were white ?
oldirishladdie 1 year ago 35
@oldirishladdie Who said that God exists ?
alextryal 1 year ago
@oldirishladdie I am guessing your black lol
ThomasWinkworth 1 year ago
@oldirishladdie in fairness, its a school prodject. they're not gunna go out and hire a multi-ethnic cast
loadedhomer 9 months ago
@oldirishladdie 'Sactly. The first humans were black, and evolved as a species - not a couple of individuals - in Etheopia - Africa.
Either way, this whole thing begs the question: If Cain and Abel were Adam and Eve's only kids, not only does that mean Cain had incestual relations with his mother, but his mother also had sex with the person who killed her son.
That's about as believable as Dragonball Z.
Vehementi 2 months ago
@Vehementi Also, in a fictional sense, it could be argued that this was all God's fault, in the first place.
I mean, not only did he make it so that both Cain and Abel would desire his approval, but he also instilled jealousy by saying that Abel's offering was better than Cain's.
Surely, he could've just thanked them both, and said "I'm proud of both of you equally" or something?
Vehementi 2 months ago
@oldirishladdie They are ACTORS! I've seen ACTORS play Martians. Get over it.
SacredSocietyAP 1 month ago 2
@oldirishladdie who said thats important
94SAWA 1 month ago
@oldirishladdie Because it's christianity. It was at first the white man's religion and still is. Just a bunch a ignorant fucks *cough* black people *cough* who are christians too. So of course they're gonna be white.
monster00freak 3 weeks ago
@oldirishladdie Chill out, dude. These were friends doing this, who happened to be white. They had nothing on blacks.
MalachiCo0 3 weeks ago
this story shows how sick the bible's teachings are - the moral of the story is that the big strong brute lives and supposedly 'wins' while the goody able ends up DEAD! yeah dead, punk. Jesus is the same type of story - moral - good guy ends up dead loser. Christians worship the brute, the one of force - the cross is just lipstick.
the "devil" plays for keeps, kids. The Bible is itself the fruit of good n evil.
morebeauty 1 year ago
@morebeauty everyting u just said sounds like a bunch of crap, u barely make any sense.....and next time u want to insult any religion or a sacred book i suggest u get ur info straight and justify your self with facts...thanx for wasting 2 min of my precious time on an idiot like u pfffft!!!!
the1ittledoc 1 year ago
Genesis 5:4 says that Adam fathered other sons and daughters.
Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). It was not until some 400 years later that God gave Moses laws that forbade such marriages.
dsrtflwr 1 year ago
There were priests?
Who begat them?:)
corthew 1 year ago
@corthew
the preist was Adam
jabumichy 1 year ago
A7X Chapter Four XD
upmanza111 1 year ago 14
people just read the bible, God said to adam and eve to be fruitful and increase in number, Adam lived 930 years, God told them to get busy for 930 years thats a heck of a lot of children. The bible is written in a specific manner for specific reasons, there is a reason why Cain and Abel were written and not the maybe (8400 estimate) children that adam had.
agustinromanii 1 year ago
If Adam and Eve were the very first people, scratched out of the very dirt of Eden. . . and Cain and Abel were their very first children . . . and Cain killed Abel . . . why would he be afraid of everyone else wanting to kill him in revenge? Why did God put a mark on him as protection? Protection from WHO? Who are all these other people? Who are the people from this other land that he was exiled to? Where the hell did they all come from? It doesn't make any frickin sense!!
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 I think that it's normal cause Adam and Eve had children who grow up, so God had time to make more people on earth
filsduBaron 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 Me and my wife discovered this.. The story just don't add up. 1. cain runs off to marry his wife. Who is she? The bible name there children and when there children have children the bible give there names.. why not give the name of cain's wife?2. God gave adam and eve another son by the name of Seth. Ans the bible gives the name of all his children and so forth. where do the women come in at if they keep having sons? Something just isn't right here..
Xanith83 1 year ago
@Xanith83 the sons' names are recorded and rarely the daughters
shepherdess100 1 year ago
@Xanith83 very good question. When I was in the play Children of Eden I asked the same question. The night I asked the director went home and researched it. When she returned she said that God placed the wife in the waste land for Cain. I guess he had to give Cain a wife because he told Cain all his off spring would be cursed. So Cain needs a wife to have children.
MrLuv2act 1 year ago
great video and nice production for just a class...lol looks almost professional
2high2aim 1 year ago
nicely done
TheFrenchiesRock 1 year ago
its sad but its my fav bible story i can actually undersand it
ilovewolves2207 1 year ago
Re: Cain and Able............. An allegorical story to depict the nomadic herdsman way of life being overtaken by the farming community. Why all the woo?
yeshuahfullofit 1 year ago
couldn't you have done this without G-d's name?
Sweetashanni 1 year ago
heres a real thinker.. if cain and abel were the sons of adam and eve.. and adam and eve were the first people on the earth.. what other people was kane afraid of to meet in the wilderness, that god put a mark upon him?
tattooshopjunkie 1 year ago
@tattooshopjunkie Cain was afraid of his own brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces, who were already born and would be capable of seeking revenge. The fact that Cain had a wife (Genesis 4:17) is a further evidence that Adam and Eve had other children after Cain and Abel, but before Seth.
MrJaredML 1 year ago
@MrJaredML In Genesis 4:13-14, shortly after he killed his brother Abel, Cain said to the LORD, My punishment is more than I can bear. Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me. Who exactly was Cain afraid of? The only people the book of Genesis had mentioned to this point are Adam and Eve (Cains parents) and Abel (who was now dead).
MrJaredML 1 year ago
@MrJaredML I assume he was afraid that maybe his parents would kill him. I'm sure he knew that his parents were going to have more offsprings and that they may live for just under 1,000 years. So maybe one of his brothers or sisters could have killed him. Then there are his children and his brothers' and sisters' children. Then their children.
ImGoingToBeAnMD 1 year ago
@ImGoingToBeAnMD right, and you made a valid point about the age. Imagine living in exile that long.
MrJaredML 1 year ago
@MrJaredML good point, that is why the holy Koran explains in truth the story of habel and cabel without any contradictions.
Aminkhan786 1 year ago
@Aminkhan786 ok... whats it say?
MrJaredML 1 year ago
@MrJaredML It is important to recognize that Cain and Abel were both full-grown adults at the time that Cain killed Abel. Both Cain and Abel were farmers, who tended to their own lands and flocks (Genesis 4:2-4). The Bible does not tell us how old Cain and Abel were, but they very likely could have been in their 30s or 40s. The Bible does not specifically mention Adam and Eve having any children between Abel and Seth (Genesis 4:25).
MrJaredML 1 year ago
@MrJaredML However, it is highly unlikely that the two most perfect human beings in the history of the world, Adam and Eve, would not have any children over several decades. Adam and Eve had many children after Seth (Genesis 5:4), so why would they not also have had other children between Abel and Seth? The Bible does not say that Seth was Adam and Eves first child, or even first son, after Abel was killed.
MrJaredML 1 year ago
@MrJaredML Rather, it states that Seth was born as a replacement for Abel. Genesis chapter 5 traces the genealogy of Seth. Prior to his death, Abel was likely the chosen son that would eventually produce the Messiah (Genesis 3:15). It is in this sense that Seth replaced Abel.
MrJaredML 1 year ago
@MrJaredML but cain and abel werent the first born?.. even then, noone has learned how to commit murder besides cain.. so why would he be afraid?
tattooshopjunkie 1 year ago
@tattooshopjunkie well that information was passed down to not only cain but to all the children of Adam and Eve because they took fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The reason it was significant was because Cain was the first to actually do this.
MrJaredML 1 year ago
mmm hot guys!
Kaileo1 2 years ago
@Kaileo1 ur prob a homosexual.....
reddesire8 1 year ago
@reddesire8: duh! so what?! there's nothing wrong with being gay!
Kaileo1 1 year ago
Way to ruin a great song with this inane video
mooseclamps 2 years ago
god was such a prick
ndyt 2 years ago
cain was the prick u idiot, he was envious, when i lose a game even though i tried my best, i dont get envious of my fellow opponent players who were better, GOD IS GREAT
aghahowa11 2 years ago
aghahowa11, Christianity Causes Brain Damage
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ndyt 2 years ago
1:53 Cain killed Abel with the jaw bone of a she ass not an axe.
I lasted for 1:05. Axe was discovered by my cousin, aged 8.
marcabane 2 years ago
@marcabane
It never states with what Cain slew Abel, so your sources are wrong.
ReflexTomorrow 2 years ago
He may have well been killed with that, or what ever, but it's wrong to state he DID die by said weapon.
ReflexTomorrow 2 years ago
wheres adam and eve??
blurry93 2 years ago
@blurry93 fucking
dascumbag 2 years ago
wtf, there wouldn't be a priest, only them and thier parents existed at the time...
StewyG 2 years ago
cain killed abel,,,
cain skin became black marker on skin
bestamerica 2 years ago
I lasted 1:08. Was a struggle.
karlkarlkarl1234 2 years ago
I like how the mark was a bloodstain. Very apt.
OneEyedJack1970 2 years ago
who is the guy telling the story,the easter bunny
newyorklove4u 2 years ago
Nice work!
Jewelrylover111 2 years ago
is this soft core porn?
kritrox 2 years ago
Uhm, what do you mean by that?
KamiKazi37 2 years ago
The story has nothing to do with Christ - if Cain was expected to know that, God was being incredibility unreasonable..
The story makes sense as simply "learn from your mistakes". And yes, I am a Christian.
finny6 2 years ago
pretty good for an hour
finny6 2 years ago
We know that from Gen. to the 4 Gospels the only acceptable offering was a lamb and Christ represented the Great Lamb. Therefore when Abel brought his offering to the Lord it showed that he knew Christ, but Cain couldn't even humble himself to ask his brother for a sheep for an offering so he relied on his own skill of gathering wheat which was not acceptable. This meant that Cain didn't know Christ because of his pride and stubborness (1 Sam. 15:23) and that plus jealousy led Cain to kill Abel
Theoizbac 2 years ago
this video is soo crap haha who would make dis shit hahaha!!!!
ruderomans96 2 years ago
plsss!!!!! send me the opening song of this video i need for the play tom....... for our home work!!
raedangwapo09 2 years ago
So let me see if I got it right. This god favored a murdered animal but frowned on fruit that someone worked just as hard to bring as a sacrifice... Then out of nowhere his brother flips out and kills Abel. Because this god says he likes BLOOD sacrifices more and then tells these, apparently feeble minded creatures, about it ? Some intelligent design. This a terrible story. It's no wonder so many people have twisted values and morals.
matttarpley 2 years ago
You must look deeper. God probably did not necessarily care about what the offering was but more about the condition of the hearts of Cain and Abel. Its ridiculous to judge god by one story that probably leaves out a lot of information.
froman182 2 years ago
@matttarpley The issue wasn't blood sacrifice vs. plant. It was the fact that Abel had brought the best he had and plenty of it willingly. Cain brought a low-quality offering and hadn't put much effort or thought into it, and didn't bring it with a generous attitude.
Macavityfan1 1 year ago
cain was jealous.
defjampop 2 years ago
cain killed able for a sarcrafice not because he was jelous
barnduke1190 2 years ago
actually, when God turned away caines offering caine became jealous and angry at his brother and killed him with a stone and therefore caine was the first to kill out of anger.
rageboyRM 2 years ago
it would be really funny if the mark of Cain was he couldn't put his middle finger down. lol.
guitar999beatlesrule 2 years ago
can anyone tell me who was the woman after Eve and how did she come to be?
howla012 3 years ago
Genesis Chapter 5 verse4 states that Adam had other sons and daughters...
Joelm8719 2 years ago
I was her daughter.
rageboyRM 2 years ago
its funny because this has so many views because it has two shirtless boys for the freeze frame.
bitchhouse 3 years ago 2
That's certainly why I clicked on it. Am I going to hell?
kasperhauseredux 3 years ago
hey whats the song?
evilreaper13 3 years ago
The song is Saeglopur by the incredible icelandic band Sigur Ros. Check them out!
kyaaakya 2 years ago
Thanks this is a good example, God bless u
Bulangenddd 3 years ago
AWESOME
messageofhope 3 years ago
very well done guys. Especially considering the time frame you said you finished it in. what did you get as a grade on the project?
xproject412 3 years ago
nice, guys, thanks!
crazykitty413 3 years ago 2