Your argument is that because in 2011 we can create realistic moon footage, that it must have been possible to fake the landings in 1969? Hollywood isn't a propaganda machine for NASA. In fact, if NASA were so interested in stopping this 'Moon-Hoax' thing, wouldn't there be some official rebuttal at least? The only vaguely official NASA page I've ever seen is an opinion piece. And wasn't it FOX who aired a 'documentary' starting this nonsense? Where's your media propaganda machine there?
The most embarrassing thing about NASA vs Mitchell for the U.S. is that either an Apollo astronaut, who's considered to be an American hero, is a lying thief or NASA is greedy lying scum. =)
You are on to this "theme" the Media is pushing right now. This also includes the International Doctor Who episode: "The Impossible Astronaut " aswell.
The effect all look more realistic the the NASA produced footage. They (I think) hope to mesh fiction and fact in the minds of the younger sheeple; thus making them believe the lie.
It is marketing and perception management this is the business of Hollywood/ major Media. Great video!
You should be aware of the recent July 2nd, 2011 news on the internet: *NASA sues Edgar Mitchell (former Apollo 14 astronaut) for trying to sell a camera he (allegedly) used on the moon back in 1971 and kept as a souvenir*. NASA claims he "illegally possessed the camera and attempted to sell it for profit". They REALLY don't want it to get out to the public. Search for it, maybe you can incorporate it into one of your next videos. =)
Side tell us? thousands of documents and papers by half witted scientists are propagated throughout the internet based on the same fibs. I would call "side telling us" a downright euphemism #LOL
Every story is a message with other messages within. This is what I called side telling. In this case the story of NASA vs E.Mitchel about the camera Thorzanek mentioned is telling us the moon landings were real -for all the fuss with a fucking camera.
Just as with this film/s here. They side telling us NASA is needed to protect us from aliens.
@Thorzanek Nasa are suing Edgar Mitchell? Hmmm...seems a wee bit tame given that Jarrah alleges they KILLED the entite Apollo 1 crew. Not to mention destroying the entire Challenger orbiter, killing its entire crew, just to shut up a school teacher. And the logic/common sense of this is...where exactly? What next? Threatening to take away Al Bean's crayons if he doesn't continue to perpetrate the big lie? Three points for initiative, Thorzanek, minus several million for being so dumb.
Wasn't the Apollo-Soyuz mission internally designated by NASA as Apollo 18? Seems to me that the Apollo 18 movie would be more credible if it were called Apollo 19 lol
@sunkatgator Depends on how you count. Between Apollo 17 and ASTP, three other command modules were used to fly astronauts to the Skylab space station. So technically that would make the Apollo Soyuz mission Apollo 21.
Why would Apollo 18 be fake if the government was covering it up?
You have recorded film of the Transformers movie off a camera - Is that not illegal where you are?
How many moon rock documentaries are you going to make? Although I believe Apollo was real, I find your videos interesting, but you have too many moon rock documentaries, and should focus on something more interesting.
the story of the lost NASA tapes, and the man who had them stored in a garage for over twenty years. The film tells the story of the “race to space” called for by President John F. Kennedy, and continues as a NASA intern named Gary George purchases the 2-inch magnetic tapes at a government surplus auction at Ellington Air Force Base. The FBI comes into play as NASA property is seen being thrown away as “trash” at George’s parents’ home in Houston ect..
The 'alien's' card, surely that's NASA biggest hope to sink the idea of a fake moon landing for a while. And sure enough these hollywood guy's are doing a good job at helping them to prepare the hordes of useful idiots to eat that shit, mouth wide open.
Once it's in the hands of the UFO/Alien's freaks (like lunacognita for example) there is only corner-smiles and stupidity that can come out of it, and no one would listen anymore. NASA wet dream
What I find amusing is that the Astronauts do not move/walk in the same way that they do in the official NASA videos... probably because if they did everyone would be saying "that doesn't look real". The end result is that the moon walking in Transformers looks more realistic than the NASA originals!
That reveals the other side of the coin. If new Moon landings were faked today, with current filming capabilities, we would all be conned once more ;(
True, the whisper is getting louder and this Hollywood production will make more and more people doubt that Apollo put a man on the moon. We told NASA that the people that doubt Apollo did put a man on the moon" will gain support, we count day 15,336 and still counting NASA.
There is no water on the moon remember brother for decades NASA was telling this.
i do beleive the moon landings are fake as i have found some proof of this my self though the official site & made a short video, also there is alot of evidence proving that it was infact a lie & richard hoagland's findings are totally wrong as he thinks these are ruins and i have found quite alot of things that certainly are not ruins & made video's of them also, check out the north & south poles of the moon & zoom in.
This is another great vid from Jarrah. One can only congratulate him for all that effort.I have enjoyed and favorite all of the same kind when Jarrah confronts Plait,Mythbutters,Aldrin etc . I believe we, the YT "conspiracy theorists," we maybe need to post more vids based on what we think about the hoax and its impact .In a way this will be much more appealing and more interesting than endlessly debating whether the glass is half empty or half full with these boring propagandists.
'Could it be subtle propaganda designed to reinforce the landings and throw doubters off the scent...?'
Um...NO. What a bunch of paranoid, idiotic nonsense. How come those who support the hoax theory insist that the conspiracy didn't have to involve that many people and then suggest some cabal's in complete control of the Hollywood system. Ridiculous. What next? Suggesting that 'Dude, where's my car?' was a thought-control excercise designed to make people dumber? Looks like it worked.
is there any doubt that these are propoganda films?? anything done with the support of any u.s agency shows it is a narrative supported by the government. just think of how real apollo hoax info gets buried in false hoax material involving green men on the moon. expect real moon hoax info to get buried in 100X more of this garbage. I shield my ham sandwich in more alluminum wrap than they used in their whole program mankind cannot escape the trapped radiation of the magnetosphere -end of story.
its a good point you make JW these Movies could be to try and reinforce false beliefs in the masses that Apollo was real. The Movie that got me thinking about the Apollo program was Capricorn 1 which i thought was pretty good movie considering they didn't have anything like the budget of these 2 Movies you mention. I have a different take on the supposed Maned Russian Moon Program they got out faked by the Americans and kept what they did under wraps.
I've only recently discovered your videos (after having a bit of an Apollo Fakery week), and am both looking forward to and daunted by just how much quality material you've produced on the subject, even despite the oppression from what I now know as 'Nasa-ites' (of which I was one, from the age of 5 until recently). I've watched the top rated videos on your channel, but was wondering if you had any videos in particular you'd suggest I (or others) watch?
I'll say that it's a bit paranoid for someone to think a couple of new movies that are coming out have an ulterior motive to their showings, but they should be entertaining none the less. I was unaware of the apollo 18 movie until now, but it does look good.
@col56g I don't watch movies myself,on my book movies are cheap entertainment,not artistic,and it pisses me off the fact only boring people are fully amused by them.There maybe a couple of good movies worth watching but not after 60s and certainly not American.However I believe any movie who uses the "Moon landing" as an issue and NOT pointing at the fact it was a hoax ,is absolutely garbage.There is only one interesting thing about the"moon landings-long expected.An official admission of hoax.
You know what would be interesting Jarrah? Once both the films are released on DVD...If they have special features, showing how the effects were created. Taking that, and comparing it to how the special effects were done for the Apollo movies NASA did. Alongside with mythbusters special effects. And alongside how the faking of the feather hammer, jumping, etc on fact or faked moonlanding episode. Now that would be quite an interesting project! You could even throw in some SHANE stuff. lol
Or is there another option why these films are being released. Because they have been 'officially' drip-dripping information that something else was going on during Apollo and not what they presented to the public?
SUPERHUMAN EFFORT. Wow...She couldn't have said it better. Because without superhuman powers, like being impervious to deadly radiation in space, any trip into and beyond the Van Allen Radiation betls is CLEARLY IMPOSSIBLE!
A smart researcher might be saying "not only are they still telling lies about moon landings but once again they are trying to ram aliens down our throats" Perhaps there should be slightly more concern about this constant promotion of aliens instead of suggesting thats a tactic to deflect away from the hoax just in case thats not 100% correct either! Who or what exactly are these aliens? should be the ? not acting like an 'apollogist' tarring everybody else mad who considers it possible!
@greenmagoos Here's the problem as I see it GM! I think most will agree that there must be other MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT life in the universe than HUMANS. This should be obvious by our continued Killing of each other, and RAPING of one half of our species. So, those who believe in otherworldy intelligence are being mocked with a variety of bulshit ALIEN UFO stories. And they bring the Hoax knowers into the mix, by propping up APOLLO with these ALIEN STORIES. Both camps disinfo'd in 1 shot!
Well I suppose it would be nice to think there is something more intelligent out there that had been able to develop its intelligence on a planet capable of sustaining life. It would be nice to think nasa had our best intentions at heart if they had kept that information from us but they seem to have been more interested in presenting moon tv specials at the same time Osiris could be seen riding an alligator in the stars from the Apollo 11 landing site
@greenmagoos "the Apollo 11 landing site" You mean you can see Osiris riding an alligator from the moon landing set? Or from the lunar module simulator used to create the approach of Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17. Or from the Apollo simulation project crane where the faking of the launch of the ascent stage was filmed.
I'm confused. But not THAT much!
It's obvious that those interested in keeping us stupid, will throw tons of shit at us, until some of it sticks!
Well there does seem to be some evidence from the mission patches for exp that some people in nasa were carrying on traditions and things that had interested Jack Parsons and his mystery school of rocket pyrotechnics.
@greenmagoos Yes...It would seem that those who tamper with our minds, are using symbology to further their esoteric leanings...But even that is constantly being used to muddy the waters, and prop up Apollo. When you break the milli vanilli space missions down to bare bones, you cannot deny the deadly radiation in space, and our ape-like intelligence/pavlovian dog mentality that has been/is being exploited everyday to the detriment of the human spirit, and stealing of our energy & resources!
Well I woudn't say so much that their use of symbology is to tamper with our minds. Its just another bit of the jigsaw puzzle. From what I can gether it would be dangerous for a human being to travel outside the radition belts and risk solar flares and they don't seem to have resolved that problem from the evidence thats been presented.
The only thing I would imagine either movie will be raising awareness of is that the moon missions happened- including a soviet one? wtf? and they've been telling fibs on a grand scale about what they discovered there- just as well people that spend money being entertained at movies aren't stupid enough to be unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality eh and most of them probably thought they had actually happened in the first place as presented.
Jarrah you'll soon to be able to form a triple alliance with Windley and Plait debunking this nonesense and perhaps it might be a good move commercially if moon movies set up a subsidary company promoting this sort of Apollo 18 tat because I could imagine it would be a good seller. Lots of transformers/sci-fi geeks willing to splash the dollars!
Oh my God- mass brainwashing of the masses that the moon missions did in fact happen but they covered up what they were really doing and presented tv coverage of actor-nots chipping away at moon rocks for 45 mins at a time keeping I Love Lucy off the networks?
Eh yes I think it would be safe to say that the makers of Capricoen One were either promoting an idea or had picked up on the public perception that there was doubts about the authenticity of what was being presented.
The whole Apollo 18 thing is doing the same thing the 4th Kind is doing - Acting like it's all real to get people in the door. Wanna know what happened with The 4th Kind? It got panned in theaters.
But I digress - Jarrah, it's just a coincidence. If you haven't noticed that lately, Hollywood is going through the whole alien and space invaders trend again.
@Zeta39Reticuli (continued) The fourth kind, Avatar, Battle LA, Knowing, Cowboys and Aliens, Skyline, District 9, Paul, do I really need to go on with this?
It's just another Hollywood trend. Apollo 18 And TFDSM just happen to have Apollo themes.
it is also called mind conditioning personally I think. It seems like hollywood wants us to be fear of giant aliens coming to attack us in case it ever happens. The popular topic now a days is Sumerians and the Anunnaki and maybe that is where all these alien movies are targeting.
@dragnet53 That's just silly. There's no reason to be afraid of what's out there, especially since the only thing we can really hope to find is microbial life.
The probably of intelligent life in the universe can be pretty likely, but with space being as big as it is, there's no real way outside of Science fiction and scientific Hypothesis to really know if anything can travel that distance.
The moon landing claims are not simply improbable, they are absurd. I think that most people that believe in Apollo should consider taking a look at the long history of US government lies in general, and try learning a bit of math an science while they are at it. For that matter, wake the hell up.
There is a flaw with your statement. The "long history of lies" is almost entirely more conspiracy theories completely unproven with more then a few ways to read into them. Now we do two examples of cover ups that were revealed and you'll notice, it wasn't kept secret for long. One is watergate. The other is Monica.
I'm afraid speculation with circumstantial evidence isn't enough in my book to declare a long history of lies.
The alien"danger" and the good NASA who will protect us from these alien bastards is an idea of chief hoaxer Von Braun himself back in the 70s.Now days the American politicians are faggots and not one of them has any guts.In fact there is no such a thing as politicians any more over there.We cannot count on American officials to expose the hoax/s,and I think an International organization should be formed to deal with the "clever" yanks.Enough is enough.
Now, they are trying to promote the idea of alien bases? What next? We did not go to the moon.
anastasia2657 2 months ago
Very nice Julie gave that interview!
I gotta see those movies!
Aurinkohirvi 6 months ago
Your argument is that because in 2011 we can create realistic moon footage, that it must have been possible to fake the landings in 1969? Hollywood isn't a propaganda machine for NASA. In fact, if NASA were so interested in stopping this 'Moon-Hoax' thing, wouldn't there be some official rebuttal at least? The only vaguely official NASA page I've ever seen is an opinion piece. And wasn't it FOX who aired a 'documentary' starting this nonsense? Where's your media propaganda machine there?
93tomb 7 months ago
you're on the right track jarrah. the links between hollywood and nasa are strong.
matrixcmitech 7 months ago
And now let's see some famous quotes about the American Moon hoax. " I'm not sure these men walked on the Moon" Brian O' Leary.
"I don't know how long before I ceased to be known as the Moon man" Neil Armstrong.
"It was a stunt" Buzz Aldrin.
"Maybe you should find Armstrong and ask him" Jan Lundberg
"The old carpenter was ahead of his time" Bill Clinton
"Did you ever wonder why Nixon was not present at the Apollo11 launching?" Nikita Khrouschev
"This whole thing was a hoax" Bill Kaysing.
potrodsas 8 months ago
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potrodsas 8 months ago
Just saw Transformers 3 yesterday. It is nothing but propaganda.
IshmaelKipling 8 months ago
The most embarrassing thing about NASA vs Mitchell for the U.S. is that either an Apollo astronaut, who's considered to be an American hero, is a lying thief or NASA is greedy lying scum. =)
Thorzanek 8 months ago
You are on to this "theme" the Media is pushing right now. This also includes the International Doctor Who episode: "The Impossible Astronaut " aswell.
The effect all look more realistic the the NASA produced footage. They (I think) hope to mesh fiction and fact in the minds of the younger sheeple; thus making them believe the lie.
It is marketing and perception management this is the business of Hollywood/ major Media. Great video!
foxxx2001 8 months ago
Interesting
uncled40 8 months ago
Nasa;s Fake Moon Landings
should have won oscars
for the Nasa Astronaut Traitors
and the director Stanley Kubrick
DeadJesus100 8 months ago
@receiver69 Yeah !
I can smell another US NWO Govt False Flag coming, Great !
DeadJesus100 8 months ago
You should be aware of the recent July 2nd, 2011 news on the internet: *NASA sues Edgar Mitchell (former Apollo 14 astronaut) for trying to sell a camera he (allegedly) used on the moon back in 1971 and kept as a souvenir*. NASA claims he "illegally possessed the camera and attempted to sell it for profit". They REALLY don't want it to get out to the public. Search for it, maybe you can incorporate it into one of your next videos. =)
Thorzanek 8 months ago
@Thorzanek
This is not the guy that does not remember having walked on the moon? #LOL
elvisinpersonator 8 months ago
@Thorzanek
It's just another trick. Their real intention is to side tell us the moonlanding was real...you get me?
potrodsas 8 months ago
@potrodsas
Side tell us? thousands of documents and papers by half witted scientists are propagated throughout the internet based on the same fibs. I would call "side telling us" a downright euphemism #LOL
elvisinpersonator 8 months ago
@elvisinpersonator
Every story is a message with other messages within. This is what I called side telling. In this case the story of NASA vs E.Mitchel about the camera Thorzanek mentioned is telling us the moon landings were real -for all the fuss with a fucking camera.
Just as with this film/s here. They side telling us NASA is needed to protect us from aliens.
potrodsas 8 months ago
@potrodsas
Oh I see. Thanks fro clarifying
elvisinpersonator 8 months ago
@Thorzanek Nasa are suing Edgar Mitchell? Hmmm...seems a wee bit tame given that Jarrah alleges they KILLED the entite Apollo 1 crew. Not to mention destroying the entire Challenger orbiter, killing its entire crew, just to shut up a school teacher. And the logic/common sense of this is...where exactly? What next? Threatening to take away Al Bean's crayons if he doesn't continue to perpetrate the big lie? Three points for initiative, Thorzanek, minus several million for being so dumb.
Apogee02UK 8 months ago
Wasn't the Apollo-Soyuz mission internally designated by NASA as Apollo 18? Seems to me that the Apollo 18 movie would be more credible if it were called Apollo 19 lol
sunkatgator 8 months ago
@sunkatgator Depends on how you count. Between Apollo 17 and ASTP, three other command modules were used to fly astronauts to the Skylab space station. So technically that would make the Apollo Soyuz mission Apollo 21.
WhiteJarrah 8 months ago
@WhiteJarrah Dear Jarrah White,
A few things:
Why would Apollo 18 be fake if the government was covering it up?
You have recorded film of the Transformers movie off a camera - Is that not illegal where you are?
How many moon rock documentaries are you going to make? Although I believe Apollo was real, I find your videos interesting, but you have too many moon rock documentaries, and should focus on something more interesting.
How long does it take you to upload a video.
Thanks.
Titties.
117That 7 months ago
what ever happen to July Moon?
the story of the lost NASA tapes, and the man who had them stored in a garage for over twenty years. The film tells the story of the “race to space” called for by President John F. Kennedy, and continues as a NASA intern named Gary George purchases the 2-inch magnetic tapes at a government surplus auction at Ellington Air Force Base. The FBI comes into play as NASA property is seen being thrown away as “trash” at George’s parents’ home in Houston ect..
DaaG00n 8 months ago
The power of cinema is the power of stupidity. Films should be forbidden .
MickeyMouseApollo 8 months ago
The 'alien's' card, surely that's NASA biggest hope to sink the idea of a fake moon landing for a while. And sure enough these hollywood guy's are doing a good job at helping them to prepare the hordes of useful idiots to eat that shit, mouth wide open.
Once it's in the hands of the UFO/Alien's freaks (like lunacognita for example) there is only corner-smiles and stupidity that can come out of it, and no one would listen anymore. NASA wet dream
AstroClownBuster 8 months ago
What I find amusing is that the Astronauts do not move/walk in the same way that they do in the official NASA videos... probably because if they did everyone would be saying "that doesn't look real". The end result is that the moon walking in Transformers looks more realistic than the NASA originals!
shanehoustein 8 months ago
@shanehoustein
That reveals the other side of the coin. If new Moon landings were faked today, with current filming capabilities, we would all be conned once more ;(
elvisinpersonator 8 months ago
@stalkervision,
True, the whisper is getting louder and this Hollywood production will make more and more people doubt that Apollo put a man on the moon. We told NASA that the people that doubt Apollo did put a man on the moon" will gain support, we count day 15,336 and still counting NASA.
There is no water on the moon remember brother for decades NASA was telling this.
Peace to you
awe130 8 months ago
i do beleive the moon landings are fake as i have found some proof of this my self though the official site & made a short video, also there is alot of evidence proving that it was infact a lie & richard hoagland's findings are totally wrong as he thinks these are ruins and i have found quite alot of things that certainly are not ruins & made video's of them also, check out the north & south poles of the moon & zoom in.
bigboidai 8 months ago
This is another great vid from Jarrah. One can only congratulate him for all that effort.I have enjoyed and favorite all of the same kind when Jarrah confronts Plait,Mythbutters,Aldrin etc . I believe we, the YT "conspiracy theorists," we maybe need to post more vids based on what we think about the hoax and its impact .In a way this will be much more appealing and more interesting than endlessly debating whether the glass is half empty or half full with these boring propagandists.
potrodsas 8 months ago
'Could it be subtle propaganda designed to reinforce the landings and throw doubters off the scent...?'
Um...NO. What a bunch of paranoid, idiotic nonsense. How come those who support the hoax theory insist that the conspiracy didn't have to involve that many people and then suggest some cabal's in complete control of the Hollywood system. Ridiculous. What next? Suggesting that 'Dude, where's my car?' was a thought-control excercise designed to make people dumber? Looks like it worked.
Apogee02UK 8 months ago
Whitey on the moon - gil scott-heron
watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY
greenmagoos 8 months ago
is there any doubt that these are propoganda films?? anything done with the support of any u.s agency shows it is a narrative supported by the government. just think of how real apollo hoax info gets buried in false hoax material involving green men on the moon. expect real moon hoax info to get buried in 100X more of this garbage. I shield my ham sandwich in more alluminum wrap than they used in their whole program mankind cannot escape the trapped radiation of the magnetosphere -end of story.
Broooose 8 months ago
Julie White was very nice and I agree Jarrah.
ptownpresident 8 months ago
Shia Labeouf just mentioned on David Letterman that Mike Bay was surrounded by a large contingent of NASA personnel during filming.
FoosMasoos 8 months ago
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elvisinpersonator 8 months ago
its a good point you make JW these Movies could be to try and reinforce false beliefs in the masses that Apollo was real. The Movie that got me thinking about the Apollo program was Capricorn 1 which i thought was pretty good movie considering they didn't have anything like the budget of these 2 Movies you mention. I have a different take on the supposed Maned Russian Moon Program they got out faked by the Americans and kept what they did under wraps.
ccc771 8 months ago
@stalkervision hahahahahaahahahahaahahahahaah.
The Great Buzz Aldrin can't get a boner? Seriously? Man that sucks...
I guess it's probably all the fucking drinking just like you said...
yesiamawizardjonny 8 months ago
I've only recently discovered your videos (after having a bit of an Apollo Fakery week), and am both looking forward to and daunted by just how much quality material you've produced on the subject, even despite the oppression from what I now know as 'Nasa-ites' (of which I was one, from the age of 5 until recently). I've watched the top rated videos on your channel, but was wondering if you had any videos in particular you'd suggest I (or others) watch?
tehPete 8 months ago
We count day 15,336 and still counting. NASA has no program to go back to the moon. When do you start to doubt Apollo put a man on the moon.
Peace to you
awe130 8 months ago
@awe130
Awe... we already have man. You're helping us. Thanks.
yesiamawizardjonny 8 months ago
I'll say that it's a bit paranoid for someone to think a couple of new movies that are coming out have an ulterior motive to their showings, but they should be entertaining none the less. I was unaware of the apollo 18 movie until now, but it does look good.
cooldude56g 8 months ago
@col56g I don't watch movies myself,on my book movies are cheap entertainment,not artistic,and it pisses me off the fact only boring people are fully amused by them.There maybe a couple of good movies worth watching but not after 60s and certainly not American.However I believe any movie who uses the "Moon landing" as an issue and NOT pointing at the fact it was a hoax ,is absolutely garbage.There is only one interesting thing about the"moon landings-long expected.An official admission of hoax.
thedevoll 8 months ago
Great interview Jarrah! You rock again mate.
Peace to you
awe130 8 months ago
I get it now! It was these fucking aliens who gave Buzz the petrified wood.
potrodsas 8 months ago
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datzfast 8 months ago
4:54 Hey, spoilers!
DevilDan83 8 months ago
2:29 Easy, they just used the old set in Area 51. Why waste money on a new one?
DevilDan83 8 months ago
You know what would be interesting Jarrah? Once both the films are released on DVD...If they have special features, showing how the effects were created. Taking that, and comparing it to how the special effects were done for the Apollo movies NASA did. Alongside with mythbusters special effects. And alongside how the faking of the feather hammer, jumping, etc on fact or faked moonlanding episode. Now that would be quite an interesting project! You could even throw in some SHANE stuff. lol
un4g1v3n1 8 months ago
Or is there another option why these films are being released. Because they have been 'officially' drip-dripping information that something else was going on during Apollo and not what they presented to the public?
greenmagoos 8 months ago
SUPERHUMAN EFFORT. Wow...She couldn't have said it better. Because without superhuman powers, like being impervious to deadly radiation in space, any trip into and beyond the Van Allen Radiation betls is CLEARLY IMPOSSIBLE!
un4g1v3n1 8 months ago
Great stuff Jarrah.
thumminxy 8 months ago
A smart researcher might be saying "not only are they still telling lies about moon landings but once again they are trying to ram aliens down our throats" Perhaps there should be slightly more concern about this constant promotion of aliens instead of suggesting thats a tactic to deflect away from the hoax just in case thats not 100% correct either! Who or what exactly are these aliens? should be the ? not acting like an 'apollogist' tarring everybody else mad who considers it possible!
greenmagoos 8 months ago
@greenmagoos Here's the problem as I see it GM! I think most will agree that there must be other MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT life in the universe than HUMANS. This should be obvious by our continued Killing of each other, and RAPING of one half of our species. So, those who believe in otherworldy intelligence are being mocked with a variety of bulshit ALIEN UFO stories. And they bring the Hoax knowers into the mix, by propping up APOLLO with these ALIEN STORIES. Both camps disinfo'd in 1 shot!
un4g1v3n1 8 months ago
@un4g1v3n1
Well I suppose it would be nice to think there is something more intelligent out there that had been able to develop its intelligence on a planet capable of sustaining life. It would be nice to think nasa had our best intentions at heart if they had kept that information from us but they seem to have been more interested in presenting moon tv specials at the same time Osiris could be seen riding an alligator in the stars from the Apollo 11 landing site
greenmagoos 8 months ago
@greenmagoos "the Apollo 11 landing site" You mean you can see Osiris riding an alligator from the moon landing set? Or from the lunar module simulator used to create the approach of Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17. Or from the Apollo simulation project crane where the faking of the launch of the ascent stage was filmed.
I'm confused. But not THAT much!
It's obvious that those interested in keeping us stupid, will throw tons of shit at us, until some of it sticks!
un4g1v3n1 8 months ago
@un4g1v3n1
Well there does seem to be some evidence from the mission patches for exp that some people in nasa were carrying on traditions and things that had interested Jack Parsons and his mystery school of rocket pyrotechnics.
greenmagoos 8 months ago
@greenmagoos Yes...It would seem that those who tamper with our minds, are using symbology to further their esoteric leanings...But even that is constantly being used to muddy the waters, and prop up Apollo. When you break the milli vanilli space missions down to bare bones, you cannot deny the deadly radiation in space, and our ape-like intelligence/pavlovian dog mentality that has been/is being exploited everyday to the detriment of the human spirit, and stealing of our energy & resources!
un4g1v3n1 8 months ago
@un4g1v3n1
Well I woudn't say so much that their use of symbology is to tamper with our minds. Its just another bit of the jigsaw puzzle. From what I can gether it would be dangerous for a human being to travel outside the radition belts and risk solar flares and they don't seem to have resolved that problem from the evidence thats been presented.
greenmagoos 8 months ago
@greenmagoos! Haven't heard from you in a LONG time. Didn't you get accused of being Jarrah?
yesiamawizardjonny 8 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny
No I've been accused of a few things but not that. I ain't Jarrah.
greenmagoos 8 months ago
The only thing I would imagine either movie will be raising awareness of is that the moon missions happened- including a soviet one? wtf? and they've been telling fibs on a grand scale about what they discovered there- just as well people that spend money being entertained at movies aren't stupid enough to be unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality eh and most of them probably thought they had actually happened in the first place as presented.
greenmagoos 8 months ago
Jarrah you'll soon to be able to form a triple alliance with Windley and Plait debunking this nonesense and perhaps it might be a good move commercially if moon movies set up a subsidary company promoting this sort of Apollo 18 tat because I could imagine it would be a good seller. Lots of transformers/sci-fi geeks willing to splash the dollars!
After all its only money!
greenmagoos 8 months ago
Oh my God- mass brainwashing of the masses that the moon missions did in fact happen but they covered up what they were really doing and presented tv coverage of actor-nots chipping away at moon rocks for 45 mins at a time keeping I Love Lucy off the networks?
Whatever next?
greenmagoos 8 months ago
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@greenmagoos
"Oh my God- mass brainwashing of the masses that the moon missions did in fact happen."
Urm, no! It's a MOVIE! Was Capricorn 1 an effort to "brainwash" the masses that it was faked?! LOL.
Get a grip, dude.
LightmanTruth 8 months ago
@LightmanTruth
Eh yes I think it would be safe to say that the makers of Capricoen One were either promoting an idea or had picked up on the public perception that there was doubts about the authenticity of what was being presented.
greenmagoos 8 months ago
The whole Apollo 18 thing is doing the same thing the 4th Kind is doing - Acting like it's all real to get people in the door. Wanna know what happened with The 4th Kind? It got panned in theaters.
But I digress - Jarrah, it's just a coincidence. If you haven't noticed that lately, Hollywood is going through the whole alien and space invaders trend again.
Zeta39Reticuli 8 months ago
@Zeta39Reticuli (continued) The fourth kind, Avatar, Battle LA, Knowing, Cowboys and Aliens, Skyline, District 9, Paul, do I really need to go on with this?
It's just another Hollywood trend. Apollo 18 And TFDSM just happen to have Apollo themes.
Zeta39Reticuli 8 months ago
@Zeta39Reticuli
it is also called mind conditioning personally I think. It seems like hollywood wants us to be fear of giant aliens coming to attack us in case it ever happens. The popular topic now a days is Sumerians and the Anunnaki and maybe that is where all these alien movies are targeting.
dragnet53 8 months ago
@dragnet53 That's just silly. There's no reason to be afraid of what's out there, especially since the only thing we can really hope to find is microbial life.
The probably of intelligent life in the universe can be pretty likely, but with space being as big as it is, there's no real way outside of Science fiction and scientific Hypothesis to really know if anything can travel that distance.
Zeta39Reticuli 8 months ago
The moon landing claims are not simply improbable, they are absurd. I think that most people that believe in Apollo should consider taking a look at the long history of US government lies in general, and try learning a bit of math an science while they are at it. For that matter, wake the hell up.
georgeonthenet 8 months ago
@georgeonthenet
There is a flaw with your statement. The "long history of lies" is almost entirely more conspiracy theories completely unproven with more then a few ways to read into them. Now we do two examples of cover ups that were revealed and you'll notice, it wasn't kept secret for long. One is watergate. The other is Monica.
I'm afraid speculation with circumstantial evidence isn't enough in my book to declare a long history of lies.
stbays 8 months ago
@georgeonthenet
The alien"danger" and the good NASA who will protect us from these alien bastards is an idea of chief hoaxer Von Braun himself back in the 70s.Now days the American politicians are faggots and not one of them has any guts.In fact there is no such a thing as politicians any more over there.We cannot count on American officials to expose the hoax/s,and I think an International organization should be formed to deal with the "clever" yanks.Enough is enough.
MickeyMouseApollo 8 months ago
Dude, it's a Michael Bay film, no one cares
adakun13 8 months ago
Julie White looked like was trying not to break a security oath. What's going on in Hollywood these days?
eyewitness043 8 months ago