Wow, this song! I remember this, was the first song I looked for when I remember the game, found it, listened to it, somehow lost it - and now here it is again, 2 years or so later! =D
I thought he was just your informant... out of curiosity, what are his attacks? I thought being able to put guys like your chef in the party was mostly a novelty since Nanami and Viktor were more than enough manpower.
I kinda wish this was the music that played when you fought him in the first one and he was balls hard, the music could at least keep you sane ya know?
Well you figure that not only was he weakened from the fight in Suikoden 1, but he was also weakened by both Khan's circle and Sierra's sealing of his rune.
Still though, I wanted him to be a little more kickass than he was in S2. It's a shame he was not in S3. I would've like to see him in 3D, plus it'd be ironic if Lilly were given the chance to trounce him.
He was a begger till the end, Sierra just kicked his sorry rotten undead ass.
I bet Victor wanted to take him on solo and just keep slashing, stretching, bury him, dry him, pissing on him to no end for what he did to his family ;_;
well, technically, if you've played suikoden 1, neclord's body got very damaged from Victor and and the Star Dragon Sword. That's why in suikoden 2, he's not as powerful as in the first one, he was still recovering, in fact, if i'm not mistaken, the first time you run in to neclord in North Window City in Suikoden 2, he mentions his body is still in pain and recovering from that fight. If that helps explain at all why he was weak in this game as a boss fight.
it owuld make no sense though. you kill the crap out of that guy in suikoden 2.
as a matter of fact he:
he gets the crap kicked out of him by 6 people, smited by some kind of powerful irish vampire killing vodoo spell, hit again by super vampire magic and then beheaded by a magic talking sword wheilded by one of the best frontline fighters in the game.
Neclord deserved his unique Battle Theme but at least they could have made the fight HARDER. It's not normal that such an important and powerful foe goes down in about 1 minute ... At least in Suikoden 1 he put up a good fight.
He is actually very hard if you don't know his golem in the fight before him is immune to magic. If you waste all your 1-shot only best runes on the golem Neclord is a much tougher fight.
Still, I do agree. Neclord sorta got wimpified in this game.
It's been a few years so I may be remembering incorrectly, but if not lightning I would swear he was immune to most spells. I unloaded my best ones on him and don't remember doing any real damage to him at all. I need to dig up my game again...if nothing else this gives me an excuse to play it again :)
Well, it's because we faced another boss battle (The Golem) before we face him. So, naturally Konami doesn't want to make the fight hard enough to kill us.... because we might have depleted our Runes and items....
The song has a very "Castlevania" feel to it. I like that Konami adds elements of their other titles in their games like Vamp in Metal Gear Solid 2 and finding Snake's gun in Silent Hill 3.
Yeah suikoden's 1 and 2 were fucking brilliant, and ff7 i played them both around the same time i loved them for diffrent reason's but the fact you could have such versatile amount of combat style made it great, i mean #1 was like 15 od character's and #2 i think had about 125, how good is that :D
The beginning of this song sounds like that one battle song in Der Langrisser for the SNES. Where that crappy quality voice goes "C C C COME ON >:O!!1"
I am right with my comment because i leveled my team to the limits then i defeated him And my team was ( RINA,SIEERA,KHAN,NANAMI,VICTOR And the MAIN character i mean HERO .).
Note: I had played this game about several times sothat i learned alot about how to level up your team how to use items at the right time Finally I APPOLOGY FOR WHAT I SAID I AM SOOOORRY .
:o I guess it would have been funnier if his name was "NeckLord" but it's Neclord, which I think is meant to be some sort of strange Japanese fusion between Necro and Lord, meaning dead lord or something... Still throat lord is pretty good. XD;
@EricToTheScionti Oh hey look, i'm replying to my own comment, 2 years later...shows that video game music can withstand the test of time and bring me back no matter where I may be in life. This song is fucking epic.
This kinda things happen a lot really... the feeling is really bad. But you learn real how-to's that way. Like controlling temper with meditating is bullshit in my sight but such kinda situations... I've learned a lot from likes of these.
well i bought my game for 50php ($1) i was so lucky it was the last copy!!I WANT MI PLAYSTAION 1 BACK AND MY SUIKO2!!(i let my friend borrow and since then he never returned my suiko 2 T_T never trust boys)
Konami makes albums for all previous Suikoden titels constantly. (Such as celtic collections... or the last one "Rhapsodia - Privilege Music Collection" where you find titels from Suikoden II and also from Suikoden V. xD
You should listen to Track 09 (Gothic neclord) from the "Genso Suikoden Music Collection Produced by Hiroyuki Namba" album and Track 04 (also named Gothic Neclord) from the "Genso Suikoden Music Collection Produced by Kentaro Hane" album if you liked this BGM. :3
sadly, i havent played the game but this music is hella good
callofgears91 1 day ago
as far as i remember, i have a really intense battle with this boss that i didnt pay any attention to the song
william828 4 months ago
pretty amazing music, sounds like what you would hear in an RPG. or something for Castlevania.
Rtlgamer21 6 months ago 2
@Rtlgamer21 That's what I thought when I heard this, but then I was like oh wait...Dracula's in the video.
Awesome song.
GeminiContractor 5 months ago
fugue
karlgenesys 6 months ago
Wow, this song! I remember this, was the first song I looked for when I remember the game, found it, listened to it, somehow lost it - and now here it is again, 2 years or so later! =D
KasHusky 6 months ago
KING K WUZ HERE 2011
kingkarson 7 months ago
8 guys think Neclord could be recruited
TIR4NO 7 months ago
Hmmm, it sounds like one of Castlevania games soundtrack. Well, no suprise, they're fighting a vampire too, after all.
ShiroiLuke 7 months ago
now this is real rpg music right here
Jintaro93 8 months ago
I sound like a dork for saying it, but there are parts that honestly sound like a Baroque Concerto Grosso.
greenday61892 9 months ago
@greenday61892 why would you sound like a dork ? talking about baroque music is not forbidden
Omoraru 8 months ago
@Omoraru Well Baroque music.... is a far cry from VGM, that's for sure XD
greenday61892 8 months ago
@greenday61892 Mn'aaaaaah, don't worry about it xD
Omoraru 7 months ago
You can actually put Richard in your PARTY??
I thought he was just your informant... out of curiosity, what are his attacks? I thought being able to put guys like your chef in the party was mostly a novelty since Nanami and Viktor were more than enough manpower.
HackedStats 11 months ago
@HackedStats Richard's not in the party and he can't join. You're looking at Kahn.
KatakiDoragon 8 months ago
@KatakiDoragon Wow I don't even remember posting this comment, cuz I knew that... wtf was I drunk
HackedStats 8 months ago
Already 10 years and it is still one of the best boss theme i ever heard.
WorldEndDominate 1 year ago 10
@WorldEndDominate I love it cuz it sounds more like a normal boss theme.
donbot44 1 month ago
sounds like a Castlevania song. AWESOME!
johaneshb 1 year ago 3
I kinda wish this was the music that played when you fought him in the first one and he was balls hard, the music could at least keep you sane ya know?
Lollipop708 1 year ago
i wish he was stronger.
DjDesoe 1 year ago
good good man = ) i like it
pelonretardo2 1 year ago
best quality
KurtG85 1 year ago
First time I hear this good gothic-themed music outside of the Castlevania series. Awesome. :)
sinituuke 1 year ago
funny thing, that pic was my ACTUAL PARTY when i fight him myself.
ggcpres 1 year ago
neclord was badass
Cristalship88 1 year ago
This theme is fucking awesome.
TheAvengerBlade 1 year ago
lol i rember this lol
gilgameshida 1 year ago
Killed him in one turn. Disappointing
Perkyguy 1 year ago
He was easier because the real boss was the golem. The game knew you used up your runes on that, so Neclord was more of a ceremonial fight.
Crazetex 2 years ago 2
This boss is nowhere near hard enough to merit such an epic song....but I"m not complaining
wiegraf9009 2 years ago
Epic song, I'v listened to this like 10 times already this week.....
redwaller66 2 years ago
neclord doesn't give a FUCK
Tryscal2 2 years ago 4
i really like this song :D
JosePanchito 2 years ago
Awesome song.
rippemies 2 years ago 4
Still, he could've recovered enough for him to be WORTH fighting. He was so lame in 2... the boss fight was nothing...
dracon204 2 years ago 5
Well you figure that not only was he weakened from the fight in Suikoden 1, but he was also weakened by both Khan's circle and Sierra's sealing of his rune.
IwatoTatsumaki 2 years ago
Er... damn, you're right. XD
Still though, I wanted him to be a little more kickass than he was in S2. It's a shame he was not in S3. I would've like to see him in 3D, plus it'd be ironic if Lilly were given the chance to trounce him.
dracon204 2 years ago
He was a begger till the end, Sierra just kicked his sorry rotten undead ass.
I bet Victor wanted to take him on solo and just keep slashing, stretching, bury him, dry him, pissing on him to no end for what he did to his family ;_;
Good thing he didn't get Lilly too.
ecchibanzaii 2 years ago
well, technically, if you've played suikoden 1, neclord's body got very damaged from Victor and and the Star Dragon Sword. That's why in suikoden 2, he's not as powerful as in the first one, he was still recovering, in fact, if i'm not mistaken, the first time you run in to neclord in North Window City in Suikoden 2, he mentions his body is still in pain and recovering from that fight. If that helps explain at all why he was weak in this game as a boss fight.
lmildrum 2 years ago
It's a shame that Neclord didn't make appearance in future Suikoden games.... at least a cameo would be fine... I love this evil char...
Bazerald777 2 years ago
it owuld make no sense though. you kill the crap out of that guy in suikoden 2.
as a matter of fact he:
he gets the crap kicked out of him by 6 people, smited by some kind of powerful irish vampire killing vodoo spell, hit again by super vampire magic and then beheaded by a magic talking sword wheilded by one of the best frontline fighters in the game.
his ass anit getting up
ggcpres 2 years ago 40
Lmao.
I always manage to laugh when someone says "Kill the crap outta that guy".
Ashenge 2 years ago
@ggcpres and yet he did!!!!
*pissing pants* O_O
N00bkeek 1 year ago
@Bazerald777 luca blight was EVIL....!
bendm16 1 year ago
LOVE THIS SONG!
Put it on HQ!
* Jams *
KazuchiX 2 years ago
All those JRPGS like Crono Trigger, Golden Sun, and Suikoden are awesome in music... xD
Trully006 2 years ago
Neclord deserved his unique Battle Theme but at least they could have made the fight HARDER. It's not normal that such an important and powerful foe goes down in about 1 minute ... At least in Suikoden 1 he put up a good fight.
GebouYeah 2 years ago
He is actually very hard if you don't know his golem in the fight before him is immune to magic. If you waste all your 1-shot only best runes on the golem Neclord is a much tougher fight.
Still, I do agree. Neclord sorta got wimpified in this game.
SutaSafaia 2 years ago
The Golem boss isn't immune to magic, and in fact it is weak to lightning magic specifically.
mooseclamps 2 years ago
It's been a few years so I may be remembering incorrectly, but if not lightning I would swear he was immune to most spells. I unloaded my best ones on him and don't remember doing any real damage to him at all. I need to dig up my game again...if nothing else this gives me an excuse to play it again :)
CarpeAnimus 2 years ago
He sure did -_-...kinda annoying actually rofl
Etheria89 2 years ago
Well, it's because we faced another boss battle (The Golem) before we face him. So, naturally Konami doesn't want to make the fight hard enough to kill us.... because we might have depleted our Runes and items....
Bazerald777 2 years ago
Ahh.... I'm thankful for homebrew, I have this game on PSP.
tbsguyguy 2 years ago 2
where you got this song
ailenkpa 2 years ago
good music, but i never saw it with a boss,
i bet it would be great as the final song where good and evil battle to the death
Galacticmaster 3 years ago
It was the Boss Theme in Suikoden 2 when you battle Neclord the Vampire ;)
LordAsgar 3 years ago
an absolute must see ! imo
suikoden 2 rocks the rpg world with its sprite graphics. similar to how chrono trigger did, but with another setting
FinalFantasyXXVI 3 years ago
For about 2 minutes... I'm very disappointed they made my favourite evil char so easy to beat.. D:
Atleast Luca Blight is still the hardest enemy I ever fought in all my games.. and the most dramatic fight too =p
SkyggeEngel 2 years ago 3
The song has a very "Castlevania" feel to it. I like that Konami adds elements of their other titles in their games like Vamp in Metal Gear Solid 2 and finding Snake's gun in Silent Hill 3.
buggerwho12 3 years ago 2
This is true. Azure Dreams and Vandal Hearts II share some near identical music.
affliction32 3 years ago
The boss of the game music in Silent Hill 2 sounds like something out of MGS 1. (when you are fighting the pyramid heads w/spears)
EricToTheScionti 3 years ago
This song is perfected in the Suikogaiden soundtrack. Shame those never came stateside.
skykid 3 years ago
Any idea where I can hear that version?
KurtG85 3 years ago
I've played literally all the RPGs, and while they have great graphics/gameplay, none comes close to beating Suikoden 2's epic storyline.
kuraudo87 3 years ago
Yeah suikoden's 1 and 2 were fucking brilliant, and ff7 i played them both around the same time i loved them for diffrent reason's but the fact you could have such versatile amount of combat style made it great, i mean #1 was like 15 od character's and #2 i think had about 125, how good is that :D
vildanius 3 years ago
I liked suikoden 1 better. The music was better in 1 I thought as well. Music is always what makes great games, movies, etc.
KurtG85 3 years ago
The beginning of this song sounds like that one battle song in Der Langrisser for the SNES. Where that crappy quality voice goes "C C C COME ON >:O!!1"
HeavensMeat 3 years ago
Suikoden is one of best Suikoden's game, maybe even the best one !
So many good character like Jowy, Flik, Viktor, Riou, Nanami, Shu, Sierra etc...
And of course a bunch of fucking good villains like Luca, Yuber, Sasarai, Leon, Lucia and Neclord !!!!
Eracleir 3 years ago 3
yeah!
lildrkaznboi 3 years ago
suikoden 2 RULES its so dam great i love this game:D:D:D:D and i still got it in original cover and perfect condition:D:D:D:D:D:D
yudontsay 3 years ago 3
boogy down time
tacityrn 3 years ago
ultimately epic song. i just wish he was more challenging like attack 3 times per turn or a harder attack-all hit
lechaflan 3 years ago
No shit, same with Luca Blight. If half my party isn't dead then the boss is too easy.
EricToTheScionti 3 years ago
Damn, I really wanna play this game... but I have no money
xD
bakadude125 3 years ago
you can use an PC emulator and the game ISO . Best PS One emulator is "ePSXe" good luck
tgm91 3 years ago
Do you know where I can find the ISO?
EricToTheScionti 3 years ago
Snesorama has user-uploaded isos. Just google "suikoden II snesorama" to find it.
firestormiv 3 years ago
though I never played any of the sukiden games, but this is a pretty good song, when you fight a powerful vampire.
Belmondo4447 3 years ago
I've really wanted to play either Suikoden 1 or 2, which one is better?
jackal27 3 years ago
suiko 2.....trust me
RakyunKim 3 years ago
definately suiko 2
Cobretti89 3 years ago
Haha, alright, thanks for telling me.
jackal27 3 years ago
wow what music
W00TMN 3 years ago
Love the song ^^
13use 3 years ago
Just one question.. where the hell was Neclord during Suikoden III?
Laakepullo 3 years ago
He dies on Suikoden 2, Suikoden 3 is the story after wards. You must be thinking about Suikoden 4 maybe?(which is before Suikoden 1.
ldsoldier 3 years ago
4 took place 150 years before 1 and i don't think Neclord stole the rune till later.
furydeath 3 years ago
MORRRRRRTAL KOOOOMAATTTTT!
IRTEHTroll 3 years ago 4
I am right with my comment because i leveled my team to the limits then i defeated him And my team was ( RINA,SIEERA,KHAN,NANAMI,VICTOR And the MAIN character i mean HERO .).
Note: I had played this game about several times sothat i learned alot about how to level up your team how to use items at the right time Finally I APPOLOGY FOR WHAT I SAID I AM SOOOORRY .
thephara0hs 3 years ago
i wanna play this now hah
imraw17 3 years ago
LOL, I aways though as Neclord as neck lord.
axelalmer 4 years ago
Heh, does he have a brother named throat lord?
JinEfreet 3 years ago 2
Lol. I don't see why you guys gave thumbs downs, that was pretty funny. :P
theinsanething 3 years ago 5
no, im sorry, that was a horrible pun. no offense.
TROGDOR1030 3 years ago
Horrible pun, but still funny.
Like an amatuer comedian telling christmas cracker jokes.
theinsanething 3 years ago
Yeah, I know. I should have said Esophagus Lord. *thumbs up*
JinEfreet 3 years ago
:o I guess it would have been funnier if his name was "NeckLord" but it's Neclord, which I think is meant to be some sort of strange Japanese fusion between Necro and Lord, meaning dead lord or something... Still throat lord is pretty good. XD;
JiangRyudo 3 years ago 3
Lol your thinking of Space Ghost, his neck is 48 inches in diameter.
EricToTheScionti 3 years ago
Awesome. :D:D
Idolores 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I had defeated him with single blow .
thephara0hs 4 years ago
You also seemed to beat grammar with a single blow.
NessAndLucied 3 years ago 5
Let's say he wanted to say "I beat him in a single turn" ^^
Kyoshiro973 3 years ago
Im such an ass:I broke my Suikoden 1 back in 2002 because I lost my temper. Now I find out that I&II are like $100 -_-
Bennett1430 4 years ago 5
Fail :(
EricToTheScionti 4 years ago 16
@EricToTheScionti Oh hey look, i'm replying to my own comment, 2 years later...shows that video game music can withstand the test of time and bring me back no matter where I may be in life. This song is fucking epic.
EricToTheScionti 1 year ago 7
This kinda things happen a lot really... the feeling is really bad. But you learn real how-to's that way. Like controlling temper with meditating is bullshit in my sight but such kinda situations... I've learned a lot from likes of these.
efeorh 3 years ago
I remember watching it shatter into about 27 different pieces.
one for each true rune. :(
playerbam90 3 years ago
Dancing VAMPIRES DAAAAAAAAANCE!
EricToTheScionti 4 years ago 6
I'm replaying this shit, best game evar.
EricToTheScionti 4 years ago 6
i love this so much i let Neclord live a little longer!
HayaHamaOtsu 4 years ago 2
Arggg I wish this game was cheaper. I would buy it for $50 but don't want to spend 100. At least I got to beat it about 5 years ago.
TraeThaTruth 4 years ago 2
well i bought my game for 50php ($1) i was so lucky it was the last copy!!I WANT MI PLAYSTAION 1 BACK AND MY SUIKO2!!(i let my friend borrow and since then he never returned my suiko 2 T_T never trust boys)
HayaHamaOtsu 4 years ago
Wow, talk about an asshole friend. I would have gave him a beating.
TraeThaTruth 4 years ago 6
sexual beating?
EricToTheScionti 4 years ago
Lol
mikel0954 3 years ago
Yeeaaahhh!!!! I couldn't believe my ears when I listened to this!!! Truly amazing!!
Undoubtedly one of the best 10 songs ever composed!
Sounds a lot like Michiru Yamane...
In case you didn't know, this song is based on Passacaria from Suikoden 1
DiegoVizia 4 years ago 6
i never noticed the similarities
playerbam90 3 years ago
this VGM reminds me somehow of castlevania but no wonder.... both of the games are from Konami :D
Bloodredragon 4 years ago 4
i love it!!
darrenriccs 4 years ago
i like to dance in an evil way!!! yYOHOO
xoelts 4 years ago 3
Awesome song.
Nigrantis 4 years ago
Konami makes albums for all previous Suikoden titels constantly. (Such as celtic collections... or the last one "Rhapsodia - Privilege Music Collection" where you find titels from Suikoden II and also from Suikoden V. xD
All Genso Suikoden Series Soundtracks are great!
CycloneFox 4 years ago
You should listen to Track 09 (Gothic neclord) from the "Genso Suikoden Music Collection Produced by Hiroyuki Namba" album and Track 04 (also named Gothic Neclord) from the "Genso Suikoden Music Collection Produced by Kentaro Hane" album if you liked this BGM. :3
CycloneFox 4 years ago 2
I love ya! :)
outsiderd 4 years ago 2
Amazing, I have this on a cd and never knew where it came from.
grimmace45 4 years ago