Hitch agrees with u.s foreign dictatorships and support for atrocities but condemns GG for having diplomatic relations with Iraq. WTF kind of reasoning or argument is this? He makes the case for GG's argument and expects us to care weather GG was a alley (yet opposed his government's support of Saddam) at a time when everyone loved Saddam. This is irrelevant to the topic. wtf hitch can push this crap on religion, but Iraq and the world is much more complex, this is embarrassing!
it's hard to find a regime other than iraq that commited so many flagrant and egregious violations of internal law; from exporting israeli suicide murderers to invading other countries to providing refuge for terrorists to genocide etc.
it mind boggles me why environmentalists would oppose the war in iraq. Saddam committed two of the most egregious environmental crimes in hisrtory: the first was the kuwaiti oil fires in 1991 and the second is the destruction of the iraqi marshes in 1994.
Arent you capable of doing your own research. The islamic media has admitted those numbers it isposted on the internet, you can find it if you really want.
BUT..Do you understand how it might be those numbers could be highly accurate?
What makes me laugh is how Galloway was praising Saddam Hussein in the Big Brother show and saying how the people of Iraq loved Saddam..HAHA!! they hated him. Galloway is a Fasle, Traitorous, Duplicitous Demagogue anyone whi thinks anything different must be a Priz Prat.
I think you are utterly wrong here. Galloway has always sided against imperialism and proxy-ruling a nation. This is precisely why he can oppose both against Saddam and the Iraq war without commiting any FLAW. The fact that Saddam was a dictator does NOT license a third country, who by the way armed him to kill his opponents, to now attack and occupy Iraq. George is consistent and no flaw is found other than the flaw in Soloman's reasoning.
He certainly isnt flawless, he chooses his words well for the moment, he is Duplicitous, he kicks the ball for both teams to keep everyone happy. His REAL belief is that he is PRO muslim and ANTI west, so therefore OBVIOUSLY he is going to be against any war with either Iraq, Iran or anyone else whose muslim. He doesnt give a damn about people Dieing, he OPENLY agrees with the Genocidel Dictator carrying out atrocities in the Sudan 500,000 Dead & counting.
I have been researching through the Islamic media recently that 9 million muslims per years are killed by other muslims by war of Sharia Law, thats 9 Iraqs per year..they kill Homosexuals, Apostates, Adulterers(women), Lame muslims, Raped women who complain and others..9 million in a world of 1.4 billion represents about 0.65% per year a small percentage in a fascist ideological world.
you were researching through the islamic media ???could you possibly let me know where you got that info and percentages because i have a feeling you made them up. waiting for your response. oh yeah i read arabic and hebrew so feel free to include those in your response
Galloway is a hypocrite then, if he demonstrated against Hussein killing Kurds, what did he expect Britain and the USA to do about it? offer Hussein a packet of smarties and a plane ticket to Prison. It REALLY shows the FLAWS in Galloways beliefs and his ulterior motives. He is a TRAITOR to the Core, looking to line his pockets through his Traitorous Diatribe.
the audience really piss me off here.hitchens is an intellectual giant, but galloway talks in that 'politician' way that only few people have the gift of doing.sadly most people in the audience have the stupidity to fall for it.
Both men are egoists. Hitchens is a good speaker but a pathetic, befuddled alcoholic who cant distinguish between his opinion and his knowledge, between his private emotion and the facts of any one case (paraphrased from America's great progressive historian Charles Beard speaking on Walter Lippman). Mr Galloway is a bad speaker of bad rhetoric who cant string a coherant argument together. There are people with far more integrity on both sides of the argument.
Hitchens doesn't sound cool. He sounds pickled, as in a vat of alcohol. But I agree that Galloway performed like a buffoon. It's tough to believe that this was the best "debate" that could be staged on the subject of US genocide in Iraq.
USA patted iraq on the back when they gassed Iran didn't they? Now its a crime and counts against them (though it is). US remained Saddams ally even after knowing full well that he had gassed his own people.
How can people like Hitchens keep a straight face is beyond my comprehension.
Right well we have a responsibility for the monstrous government of Iraq that we supported wouldn't you say? Don't you think that we have more of an obligation to solve the problem because we were a part of its creation?
Galloway is an idiotic idealist. He insults the audiences intelligence by shouting and throwing around popular catch-crys. He argues only from a "perfect world" point of view. He denies reality and substitutes his own shade-of-gray idealism.
liam511 says "Galloway is an idiotic idealist." Well, there's plenty of idealism and idiocy here - for Hitchens to trust that the US/UK empires would pursue a human rights agenda in the MidEast/Iraq is PURE idealism, probably born of "white man's burden" supremacism.
I don't believe Hitchens or any informed person could believe the US went to Iraq with a purely humanitarian motive; that's silly to assume. But whatever the motive the result is not any less humanitarian. Millions of people have been freed from the clutches of a malevolent despot and are living better lives because of it. Was the War fought poorly? Hell yes. Were we there for too long? You bet.
@liam511 No matter how many times I hear your line of argument, it never ceases to amaze me. No one regrets the removal of Hussein, but to imagine that our slaughter of 100,000s, our decimation of a country's infrastructure, our destruction of an economy, our plunder of resources, our radicalisation of generations of Muslims, our enriching of the American elite, and the barely democratic government we've brought into that country, is in any way huminatarian, is pure perversion.
@liam511 : I wonder if you'd be so pragmatic and clinical if it was your country that had been invaded, your mother raped, your siblings vapourised, your home blown up. Saddam was evil. But so are our 'brave' governments. There is nothing humanitarian about war and imperialism.
the denial to the Colin Powell bit? inexcusable. Amy Goodman should have pressed further. didn't happen; fine. just note that in your own scorecard of judgment.
gavinelder makes a point about Amy Goodman's lack of intervention on Hitchens. However, anyone familiar with Democracy Now! will know that Amy is a lousy host (in terms of managing the time of a show) and an even worse interviewer (with few questions that flow conversationally, sometimes almost no questions - she'll just wind up a guest and let 'em go for 20 or 30 minutes). Amy was a poor choice for this role, especially wedged between 2 egos like this - she's not even much of a timekeeper.
why would galloway shake the hand of hussein if he protested his war crimes a decade earlier?? that makes no sense and shows he is a liar. hussein cant speak anymore so galloway is happy about that
robert2007 is a judeofascist.he is treatening people with talmudic vengeance like the 80 million murdered in judeo bolshevik soviet russia.this bloody terrorist must be gunned down.
You're one of those Mohammadans, aren't you? Well done on the Indian Embassy bombing in Afghanistan the other day (Islam is a religion of peace-of course it is). Actually I'm not an American, nor do I consider 'Jewish' to be a pejorative term.
you are one of the nice kikes. well done on the holocaust of a million muslims on a ratack of lies. judeo christianity is a religion of love you say. i know everthing from internet about the sick genocidal behavior of americans.
No, wrong again - I'm not Jewish. You aren't terribly bright, are you, rahul20l? And if you're going to try and adduce supporting 'evidence' for your point, don't cite the internet as a your source. Most of the stuff on the web is written by deranged thickos like you. The majority of killings in Iraq have been carried out by Mohammadans - Mohammadan on Mohammadan.
i don't gree with bitchens a whit. he started with lies and half truth designed to smear gallant galloway. but the wretched poor soul(btchens ) was torn apart and his false argument were smashed to little pieces.
you are a deranged jewish bigot for spporting bitchens.
HITCHEN "YOUR NOSE IS GROWING"
westernise 3 months ago
Thank god for youtube. As Galloway is frothing off on how he always opposed Hussein, there's a suggested video of him shaking his hand.
dobyboby 10 months ago
05:58
/watch?v=IIy_GmvUElE
LMAO. Whether you were for or against the Iraq war, I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Galloway is a complete scumbag.
GiantSandles 11 months ago
Hitch agrees with u.s foreign dictatorships and support for atrocities but condemns GG for having diplomatic relations with Iraq. WTF kind of reasoning or argument is this? He makes the case for GG's argument and expects us to care weather GG was a alley (yet opposed his government's support of Saddam) at a time when everyone loved Saddam. This is irrelevant to the topic. wtf hitch can push this crap on religion, but Iraq and the world is much more complex, this is embarrassing!
architect333 1 year ago
this is the best part where Galloway really turns Hitchens into a pile of garbage. GREAT EXPOSURE of this bastard Hitchens
HirsiWatch 1 year ago
@HirsiWatch Do me a favor, watch this video and tell me if you still think the same way.
/watch?v=IIy_GmvUElE
adraim69 1 year ago
@adraim69 you watch this video at 2:30 to find the real answer
HirsiWatch 1 year ago
Yea sure its a lie....
/watch?v=IIy_GmvUElE&feature=related
rugbyanden 1 year ago
it's hard to find a regime other than iraq that commited so many flagrant and egregious violations of internal law; from exporting israeli suicide murderers to invading other countries to providing refuge for terrorists to genocide etc.
eugdog106 1 year ago 4
it mind boggles me why environmentalists would oppose the war in iraq. Saddam committed two of the most egregious environmental crimes in hisrtory: the first was the kuwaiti oil fires in 1991 and the second is the destruction of the iraqi marshes in 1994.
eugdog106 1 year ago 3
drgoodvibes
Are you a muslim?
Arent you capable of doing your own research. The islamic media has admitted those numbers it isposted on the internet, you can find it if you really want.
BUT..Do you understand how it might be those numbers could be highly accurate?
Do you understand islam?
..
Soloman1001 2 years ago
Yeah right LeCatnip, in your dreams..LOL!
What makes me laugh is how Galloway was praising Saddam Hussein in the Big Brother show and saying how the people of Iraq loved Saddam..HAHA!! they hated him. Galloway is a Fasle, Traitorous, Duplicitous Demagogue anyone whi thinks anything different must be a Priz Prat.
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Soloman1001 2 years ago 3
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Galloway is far and beyond hitchens in this debate.
LeCatnip 2 years ago
He's a lot louder than Hitchens. I'll give you that much.
Mike3303 2 years ago 5
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Galloway is a poet and rightous on the side f the oppressed.
robertk1968 2 years ago
@4:41 So why were you against removing him from power Galloway, that is the FLAW in your argument. You talk utter hypocritical nonsense pal.
Soloman1001 3 years ago 2
I think you are utterly wrong here. Galloway has always sided against imperialism and proxy-ruling a nation. This is precisely why he can oppose both against Saddam and the Iraq war without commiting any FLAW. The fact that Saddam was a dictator does NOT license a third country, who by the way armed him to kill his opponents, to now attack and occupy Iraq. George is consistent and no flaw is found other than the flaw in Soloman's reasoning.
WhiteLens 3 years ago
Whitelens
He certainly isnt flawless, he chooses his words well for the moment, he is Duplicitous, he kicks the ball for both teams to keep everyone happy. His REAL belief is that he is PRO muslim and ANTI west, so therefore OBVIOUSLY he is going to be against any war with either Iraq, Iran or anyone else whose muslim. He doesnt give a damn about people Dieing, he OPENLY agrees with the Genocidel Dictator carrying out atrocities in the Sudan 500,000 Dead & counting.
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Soloman1001 2 years ago
I have been researching through the Islamic media recently that 9 million muslims per years are killed by other muslims by war of Sharia Law, thats 9 Iraqs per year..they kill Homosexuals, Apostates, Adulterers(women), Lame muslims, Raped women who complain and others..9 million in a world of 1.4 billion represents about 0.65% per year a small percentage in a fascist ideological world.
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Soloman1001 2 years ago
you were researching through the islamic media ???could you possibly let me know where you got that info and percentages because i have a feeling you made them up. waiting for your response. oh yeah i read arabic and hebrew so feel free to include those in your response
drgoodvibesxxx 2 years ago
Galloway is a hypocrite then, if he demonstrated against Hussein killing Kurds, what did he expect Britain and the USA to do about it? offer Hussein a packet of smarties and a plane ticket to Prison. It REALLY shows the FLAWS in Galloways beliefs and his ulterior motives. He is a TRAITOR to the Core, looking to line his pockets through his Traitorous Diatribe.
Soloman1001 3 years ago 3
the audience really piss me off here.hitchens is an intellectual giant, but galloway talks in that 'politician' way that only few people have the gift of doing.sadly most people in the audience have the stupidity to fall for it.
finchy633 3 years ago
I'd spend Christmas with Galloway... I'd break his legs and put him under the tree.
Poetic right?
HitchensFavorite 3 years ago
Both men are egoists. Hitchens is a good speaker but a pathetic, befuddled alcoholic who cant distinguish between his opinion and his knowledge, between his private emotion and the facts of any one case (paraphrased from America's great progressive historian Charles Beard speaking on Walter Lippman). Mr Galloway is a bad speaker of bad rhetoric who cant string a coherant argument together. There are people with far more integrity on both sides of the argument.
tacklinfuel1 3 years ago
Galloway sounds like Hitler when he speaks. He just can't speak like a normal person. Hitchy is cool as ice. Confident.
Domzdream 3 years ago 3
Hitchens doesn't sound cool. He sounds pickled, as in a vat of alcohol. But I agree that Galloway performed like a buffoon. It's tough to believe that this was the best "debate" that could be staged on the subject of US genocide in Iraq.
timetorevolt 3 years ago
your nose is growing
AxmedGurey 3 years ago
___"STOP FUCKING SHOUTING!"___
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Annoying little shit.
o8QWERTYo8 3 years ago
USA patted iraq on the back when they gassed Iran didn't they? Now its a crime and counts against them (though it is). US remained Saddams ally even after knowing full well that he had gassed his own people.
How can people like Hitchens keep a straight face is beyond my comprehension.
muhammadtaimur 3 years ago
Right well we have a responsibility for the monstrous government of Iraq that we supported wouldn't you say? Don't you think that we have more of an obligation to solve the problem because we were a part of its creation?
theironlenin 3 years ago 3
Galloway is an idiotic idealist. He insults the audiences intelligence by shouting and throwing around popular catch-crys. He argues only from a "perfect world" point of view. He denies reality and substitutes his own shade-of-gray idealism.
liam511 3 years ago
liam511 says "Galloway is an idiotic idealist." Well, there's plenty of idealism and idiocy here - for Hitchens to trust that the US/UK empires would pursue a human rights agenda in the MidEast/Iraq is PURE idealism, probably born of "white man's burden" supremacism.
timetorevolt 3 years ago
I don't believe Hitchens or any informed person could believe the US went to Iraq with a purely humanitarian motive; that's silly to assume. But whatever the motive the result is not any less humanitarian. Millions of people have been freed from the clutches of a malevolent despot and are living better lives because of it. Was the War fought poorly? Hell yes. Were we there for too long? You bet.
liam511 3 years ago 7
@liam511 No matter how many times I hear your line of argument, it never ceases to amaze me. No one regrets the removal of Hussein, but to imagine that our slaughter of 100,000s, our decimation of a country's infrastructure, our destruction of an economy, our plunder of resources, our radicalisation of generations of Muslims, our enriching of the American elite, and the barely democratic government we've brought into that country, is in any way huminatarian, is pure perversion.
MegaLotusEater 1 year ago
@liam511 : I wonder if you'd be so pragmatic and clinical if it was your country that had been invaded, your mother raped, your siblings vapourised, your home blown up. Saddam was evil. But so are our 'brave' governments. There is nothing humanitarian about war and imperialism.
MegaLotusEater 1 year ago
@liam511
I don't know about living better in Iraq? that sounds like a stretch to me. However Saddam Hussein is gone from official power.
Ryukikon 1 year ago
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"Millions of people have been freed from the clutches of a malevolent despot and are living better lives because of it.
@liam511 FUCKING LOL
bollocks2k 1 month ago
the denial to the Colin Powell bit? inexcusable. Amy Goodman should have pressed further. didn't happen; fine. just note that in your own scorecard of judgment.
gavinelder 3 years ago
gavinelder makes a point about Amy Goodman's lack of intervention on Hitchens. However, anyone familiar with Democracy Now! will know that Amy is a lousy host (in terms of managing the time of a show) and an even worse interviewer (with few questions that flow conversationally, sometimes almost no questions - she'll just wind up a guest and let 'em go for 20 or 30 minutes). Amy was a poor choice for this role, especially wedged between 2 egos like this - she's not even much of a timekeeper.
timetorevolt 3 years ago
there is no proof or evidence that galloway protested hussein, however, there is a video showing him shaking hands and praising him. hmmmm
robertk2007 3 years ago 11
there is proof of hitchens opposing the war in 91. why?he has changed now. why?
rahul2col 3 years ago
hitchens explained why, you just didnt listen cause ur an arab retard
robertk2007 3 years ago
soastudent is a judeofascist threatening openly on the net to lynch gallant galloway to oppose jewish hegemony in middle est.
rahul2col 3 years ago
why would galloway shake the hand of hussein if he protested his war crimes a decade earlier?? that makes no sense and shows he is a liar. hussein cant speak anymore so galloway is happy about that
robertk2007 3 years ago 3
The effete old drunkard.
ludachris475 3 years ago
War propagandist.
He's basically making it up as goes along, one canard after another.
ludachris475 3 years ago
lot of jews are for the war on iraq how come?
hooyo4ever 3 years ago
war is for israel sake not oil. AIPAC LOBBY IS ALSO BEATING THE DRUM FOR WAR.
rahul2col 3 years ago
you are asking to get ass your kicked, be careful or i will beat you like a dog
robertk2007 3 years ago
robert2007 is a judeofascist.he is treatening people with talmudic vengeance like the 80 million murdered in judeo bolshevik soviet russia.this bloody terrorist must be gunned down.
rahul2col 3 years ago
Colin Powell is a thousand times a better human being than bitchens could be in a thousand lifetimes ......
Dundee1961 3 years ago
Bravo Galloway
zduhach 3 years ago
George Galloway rocks and always speaks the truth. Christopher Hitchens lost his way probably due to Neocon and Zionist money.
iamthethursdaykid 3 years ago
Thankfully, most New Yorkers aren't as ignorant as you.
PinkoPapist89 3 years ago 3
Galloway's a slimy crook.
ofcoursehesthefarmer 3 years ago 4
if gallant galloway is a slimy crook jewish bitchens is a neocon spook.got it brainwashed american fool.
rahul2col 3 years ago
You're one of those Mohammadans, aren't you? Well done on the Indian Embassy bombing in Afghanistan the other day (Islam is a religion of peace-of course it is). Actually I'm not an American, nor do I consider 'Jewish' to be a pejorative term.
ofcoursehesthefarmer 3 years ago 2
you are one of the nice kikes. well done on the holocaust of a million muslims on a ratack of lies. judeo christianity is a religion of love you say. i know everthing from internet about the sick genocidal behavior of americans.
rahul2col 3 years ago
No, wrong again - I'm not Jewish. You aren't terribly bright, are you, rahul20l? And if you're going to try and adduce supporting 'evidence' for your point, don't cite the internet as a your source. Most of the stuff on the web is written by deranged thickos like you. The majority of killings in Iraq have been carried out by Mohammadans - Mohammadan on Mohammadan.
ofcoursehesthefarmer 3 years ago
you are a jewish or not i can see where yor sympathy lies. you are brainwashwed on the real happenings in iraq by fox jews and cabala news network.
rahul2col 3 years ago
rather be jewish than a ragehead
robertk2007 3 years ago
rather be with god than with g-d(swine)
rahul2col 3 years ago
ur a muslim pig
robertk2007 3 years ago
wrong. you brainwashed animal. you are living in george orwell"animal farm"
rahul2col 3 years ago
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ur a raghead and deserve to die
robertk2007 3 years ago
ur a sandni%^er
robertk2007 3 years ago
christianity is a religion of love. tell that to millions of indians and africans and arabs you have brutalised and massacred
rahul2col 3 years ago
islam is a religon of pedofiles just like mohammed. does ur sister still have a clitourous???
robertk2007 3 years ago
I have to agree with Hitchens, Saddams past gave little or no reason for us to trust his
claims. People seem to conviently forget the oil for food debacle when discussing the sanctions that caused the Iraqis so much grief
Yet another reason the U.N. has become irrelevant and in fact became the worst enemy
Iraq had at the time. Kofi Anans childred, with his help, stole the food from the mouths
of children and blame the U.S. to this day. If any one should be tried for war crimes they should.
mick0057 3 years ago 2
i don't gree with bitchens a whit. he started with lies and half truth designed to smear gallant galloway. but the wretched poor soul(btchens ) was torn apart and his false argument were smashed to little pieces.
you are a deranged jewish bigot for spporting bitchens.
rahul2col 3 years ago
is is damn easy for american idiots with an IQ
of less than 50 to blame arabs with all the brainwashing by jew media and fail to se the causes like israeli terrorism.
rahul2col 3 years ago
GAlloway was not right to support terrorists and u cant prove it
gtalcstories 3 years ago
those whom you foolish american call terrorist are freedom fighters fighting to liberate their homeland from american swines.
rahul2col 3 years ago