Vocal Tips and Support with Umbvir

[SuperRageFest]

can you do a lesson on the filth whistle?

[Rocksoccer123]

You cannot breathe into your diaphragm. The diapraghm is an abdominal muscle. But you can use that muscle to breathe with, instead of using your chest muscles, and you can also push the air out with more power, since it's a bigger muscle.

I think.. Lol. I'm not an expert though.

[doroliva]

one question

¿how do you learn the lyrics?

i dont speak english very well (its obiously) but i know something

but to learn the lyrics... well i can't do it

[Umbvir]

@doroliva english is obviously my native languageso ya dont have that problem...though when im learning lyrics from another language, I still do it and sound decent it jsut takes longer

Language is just various pitches and sounds and shit that we associate meaning with soooo have the lyrics in front of you...and since you already have a basic understanding of that languages structure..just concentrate on the sounds syllables and pitches made and not on the actual word itself

[scakurou]

holy shit dude you look damn different from your vid on how to growl at home -.-

[lurxtlifeson]

@Umbvir and this site describes a similar principle- vocalist and then .org.uk/breath_control.html it talks about how your stomach should expand when breathing from your diaphragm. So if this is incorrect, could you please explain why your method of keeping your stomach from moving is correct? I have no doubt that you can support your growls, your sound speaks for itself, so don't think I'm insulting your growls XD

[Umbvir]

@lurxtlifeson nono, when u actually breathe in u of course expand it other wise u wont have any air to use...liek i say in the vid u breathe in and raseise the book....,..the important part is when u exhale...thats when u dont want anythign to move. and thats support

[lurxtlifeson]

@Umbvir ok. that was just a bit confusing. thanks!

[lurxtlifeson]

@Umbvir understandable. and the article really was of no significance, only the part about the book on stomach excercise. the part I was referencing was the little box describing the excercise. I found similar descriptions on other sites such as this one- guymonroe and then .com/singing-diaphragm-what-it­-can-it-help-me the excercise part is towards the bottom.

[lurxtlifeson]

@Umbvir dude, it wasn't meant in an insulting manner. I'm trying to learn, and since I'm confused I asked a question. I'm not surprised at your response, though, because you seem to be excessively defensive with quite a few posters on your vids. why do you have to be so ignorant? you could have asked "where did you find this information" or at least "no, I'm sure I'm right but thanks for asking" but no, you took my question as an insult. if anything, you should feel revered since I'm taking

[lurxtlifeson]

Dude, my 4th grade choir teacher taught us that same book on stomach thing!!!!!!!!

[AsILayDaing777]

how heavy should the book be for starters? :P

[Umbvir]

srry i forgot to answer this lol. not very heavy only heavy enough to know that its there

[blahflamboo]

awesome man...hey! do you think you could do a walk with me in hell cover!?

[SuperNovaDanTheDark]

dude grats and thanks for everything my screaming has improved. on another note i will love to see some cradle of filth covers soon.

[SuperNovaDanTheDark]

thanks and i imatated vocals from dethklok when i started out. also i have absolutly now pain screaming if im doing all lows but highes cause pain. i believe that i push myself alot when trying to do highes. i usually scream suicide code alot i dont have the last part memorized through im working on that

[Umbvir]

thats good, now when u attempt the screams...or in ur definitions high screams are you using alot of air and force, because the screams require little of both

[lxXMETALXxl]

Do you know how to do those Randy Blythe (lamb of god) vocals, i have no idea what they would be called other than a mix of growls and screams.

[Umbvir]

they are just growls, though they are softer in the sense of he isnt trying for lots of power....

instead he replaces the power hes not using with a shit load of vibration...which is what gives it that scream like quality as you describe it

[lxXMETALXxl]

ah, thank you, would you have any tips on how to add that much god damn vibration to a growl like that?

[Umbvir]

hmm thats kinda hard to explain atm, not sure if youll understand this..but try...

like if ur going eeee, have front teeth together and smile with your teeth showing

keep your face like this and open your mouth while forcing ur lower jaw forward like ur trying to make ur bottom teeth go over top

take those to the max so that ur face and ur neck are tense

stay like this and try to growl, this should get the vibration pt you need, as well this should be similar to how throat need be

[SuperNovaDanTheDark]

yea and they dont always cause pain but at times like when i first tried doing them and for like a few weeks after and right after i havent done them in a while but also on certian occasions.btw i have beeen screaming for about a year or less

[TenebrarumVires]

Nice...but still, I can't growl properly .___.

[Umbvir]

lol, hope ur not blaming me :p cuz i gave everyone the proper tools they need.

If my how to growl makes u growl in any way then ur just not practicing enough, which is most likely

otherwise u dont listen and understand well and therefore ur hopeless...though i doubt this one haha

youll get it

[TenebrarumVires]

No I'm not blaming you, all your tutorials are accurate and clearly explained

I'll practice more

[lxXMETALXxl]

dude, tyvm :)