"Some people say that there is no humain explanation for the Quran, wouldn't it be a kind of evidence ? ( Something that you won't find in anti-islamic sources xD )."
Anti-Islamic? Ok...the wording is maybe a little off. Makes it sound like other texts are against Islam.
The Quran, Bible, Torah and other books explain many things - and do them very well. But none of those things are things that could not have been gleaned or imagine by the smart humans that have existed throughout history.
@CaptainGreen2008 I often like to read "anti-islamic sources" just to learn how they work, the problem is that somtimes they have to lie or take off-context and bring an imaginary interpretation just to fit what they want, i think this is what we can call "against" islam.
Of course there are lot of things that can be imagined by humains, but when i said that sometimes there is no humain explanation, i meant somethings that couldn't.
"Yea scientific data lead us to conclude that the universe has One, immaterial, uncaused and conscious cause ( Cosmological argument )" - Not sure that it does. Depends on your definitions. The natural cosmos is explained by natural causes... and it does point to a singular point in history - not sure you could call that immaterial. please explain this.
"...but at least it matches the Quranic concept of God." - It matches the description of many differing texts.
@CaptainGreen2008 The universe begun with a big bang, space and time and all the natural forces emerged at the same "time". Logically, everything that has a beginning has a cause, therefore the universe has a cause, this cause cannot be bound by thse cause, and we cannot have an infinite regress of causes because if so we won't have a universe, therefore it must be one and immaterial. And since we have a universe instead of nothing, it must have chosen it.
@babkrani - Nice. But arguable. Big bang happened. We can postulate that it was caused, but by what is the question. The fact that we do not know (yet if ever) does not mean it was created on purpose or that had a creating agent that is anthropomorphic. That is a big leap. I think what people see in scripture in relation to science is the ponderings of ancient people who were smart, but lacked tools to prove conjectures. They laid out these possibilities, but [More next post].
@CaptainGreen2008 I gess i would agree with you, but my argument can be found in the Quran concerning the big bang, "Do those who are disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were sewn together and then We unstitched them and that We made from water every living thing? So will they not have faith?" (21: 30) ( An evidence right ? )
I can agree with you that we are not sure, and we probably never will be.
@babkrani - I will give Islam credit in that out of the Abrahamic traditions it is usually more open to scientific endeavor. However it still explains things in terms that were available in the days it was written. What they could not fully explain, such as the purpose of existence is solved by the place holder 'god did it'. This answers much, without actually adding knowledge. I wouldn't claim a problem with my car is the will of god, because we have a good working knowledge of cars. [more]
@CaptainGreen2008 About the "car" exemple i'll give you a link that gives another view about how the answer can be: /watch?v=OrcWntw9juM
Of course, we will never be able to fully imagine with our limited brain what God can be, but as far as knowledge is increasing, the concept of God is being more accurate.
If you interested in continuing the discussion, i hope you send a Private message because comments in youtube are annoying.
What I try to understand is why someone who would never ever say he couldn't solve a differential equation by stating it is the will of god would defer to a god concerning other matters rather than research those matters as he would the diff eq.. I know that knowing everything is not humanly possible, but saying that god did it only defers the investigation. Example: Why is the sky blue? "God wills it" only addresses intent - which is unprovable when you invoke god, while not actually explaining
@CaptainGreen2008 The best strenght is to know one's own weakness. We shouldn't underestimate the fix firm we are in, that later we won't be able to explain. There will be some set rules and we will just stop and say why this and this. The infinite regress of causes is absurd and impossible, logic always will lead us to one uncaused being that was the origin of everything.
About the exemple, science explains only how the sky is blue, but it never gives a why.
I did not notice any proof of god in that video. What I saw was a person finding some meaning in text. Regardless of whether or not it is consistent it offers no proof of any god at all. The accurate observations and ideas in the Koran could also be explained by the observant person writing it down. I do not want to slam Islam in particular because no religious text seems to offer any evidence of god. If you accept the concept of god then religious texts hold water - otherwise not.
@babkrani - I suppose I did. What I was looking for was a clue as to why a Mathematician who used to be agnostic/Atheist would suddenly find meaning in a holy book of any kind. I have witnessed this in other people, but towards Christianity. From what I have seen a person reads something meaningful to himself and then suspends logic and reason when it comes to that belief system. A sort of trade off. They stop asking whether it's true or not and simply accept it to be true.
@CaptainGreen2008 I suggest you look to the whole lecture, because 100 seconds won't really convince anyone.
In this video he was talking about the question made by the angels: "Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, while we glorify You with praises and thanks and sanctify You... ".
Also any sane person can notice that the univese isn't the result of physical necessity nor chance. So i don't think that it is not logical to believe in the supernatural.
I agree there is some intuitveness involved in seeing a hand in the creation of things. However science is all about having those intuitions, drawing from observable facts and seeing the mechanisms involved (proving). Aside from an intuitive feeling that all of creation may have had a hand there is little, if any, evidence to support this. Creation itself is not evidence of a creator in that it does not elimate all other possibilities. Other possibilities offer more support.
@CaptainGreen2008 Another version ? Everything we see out there is evidence. What about the humain brain ? What about the cells programed to recognize each other ? What about bees, camels, ants and flies... I think science works only when it explains "how". The rational and logical reasoning is the only key to reach/deny a creator. That is why the Quran says that they fail to reason.
But of course there are psycological, philosophical and intuitive reasons aswell.
@babkrani - That is what I mean. Creation could have had a creator, and it could be a dragon, god, alien race, etc. It offers nothing to narrow the scope of 'whom' it was. This leaves the possibility that one creator created everything and someone else took the credit with no real way to know this. My stance is that we DO have plenty of explanations for creation that do not rely on a creator and have some evidence for it. Just as we DO have a good explanation for electric currents without god.
@CaptainGreen2008 Yea scientific data lead us to conclude that the universe has One, immaterial, uncaused and conscious cause ( Cosmological argument ) ... It is not necessary to be the creator claimed by any religion, but at least it matches the Quranic concept of God.
Some people say that there is no humain explanation for the Quran, wouldn't it be a kind of evidence ? ( Something that you won't find in anti-islamic sources xD ).
@babkrani - I will watch all the available vids on this(and many many other debates and lectures)... I am very interested in how the mind works. I do not wish to insult when posting these remarks. I really do want to know why some people suddenly believe in things that could easily have gone one way or the other. I know some converts to Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism. The fact that their directions are so varied leads me to question whether any of them are valid explanations.
Allah,zeus,Thor,vishnu,Yhawe, all of these gods are as imaginary as santa clause i feel sorry for all of you deluded saps, giving away your freedom to one of the worst religions in the history of mankind. oh well you guys were brain washed into believing this BS as children poor deluded saps.
This man is a professor in mathematics and he was a leader of Atheists and he converted from Atheism to Islam after reading some verses from the Holy Qur'an.
After all of this information its obvious that this man has achieved, and deserves all goods and respect, so please people stop disrespecting him ^_^
@fatsachs you seem to have knowledge of something i dont.
explain your alligation if you can. if you cant, you will be ignored and im sure thats not what you want because you wouldnt bother saying Human beings created "God".
read a few books about neurology and answere this question to YOURSELF: how is it physicaly possible to lift an arm or leg.
blind faith isnt worth anything, but bottomless alligations and incomplete thoughts are too.
LoL at his voice.. I was almost expecting him to go "You know that novel you've been working on, that novel you've been working on for three years" while his voice became more and more high pitched.. xD
this guy is a professor, he is either dumb or stuipid,, how did GOD tell us this information, did allah write the quran or give it to mankind. the quran is a man written book like all other religious books, but the difference is muslims claim it is the word of GOD. yet when the book was written, man had to testify to each other about the sayings and then written down. Quran has taken many teachings around at the time, it is not the word of GOD, it is a man made book,
@mohamedkhansheik dont talk about big issues that you have no even a background about them ! Look how many Bibles are there ? You will find lots and lots of it and they are different, but go ahead and look how may Qurans ? You will find all of them are the same ! Noboby can change even a letter in it, however, Bible has been changed so that you find many of it !
@mohamedkhansheik The Book is man made, ideas were spoken through the mouth, but the inspiration by God. Is that logical enough to you, do you understand intuition, can you prove it mathematically ? The thoery of everything could not.
Atheists like to paint people who believe in God as illogical, unreasonable and blind followers.
Infact, the founders of logic, at least those who wrote it down first, the Greeks, such as Plato and Aristotle who are praised very much by western scientists came to the conclusion that there must be a God - who they refered to as the unmoved mover and the uncaused cause. Such was the belief of other men praised by atheist such as Newton and Einstein.
Furthmore, this belief is the belief of the overwhelming majority of people from all walks of life, from all times in history. It is in fact the atheists who are illogical, unreasonable and follow and act upon blind belief and faith in their arrogant atheist leaders whom they would think to question.
Allah (God) Almighty has revealed in the Qur'an why everything is as it is, read and you'll be convinced if you are sincere.
By the way, "the guy" is a Professor of Mathematics at Kansas Uni
@Axmad1430.... it's called theory every religious book was a theory. However, they are outdated theories. In respect we could even call it historical theory for the meaning of life. But, what about examining our lives in practically... who believes in god? the poor and the rich. The poor need god since their lives suck and they need to be ensured that all these misfortunes will be overcome because their god cares about them, and the rich love god because well...their rich. It is called incentive
@faheemthedream2007 All reigions and god are man made. Since the beinging of time man has created thousands of different religions and different gods. We creat gods to explain the unknown because we are like children and afraid of the dark.
We have now entered the age of reason and logic andwith science there is no more room for a pretend god and a man made religion. Even your prophets are man made, these people were is most part just very disturbed and thought of themselves as gods.
@justanoldman1 First point, there is a little mistake in what you say : None of the prophets thought themselves as gods. They do were all and each of them humains beings.
@justanoldman1 Second point : sciences and logics are not gods. I personally went to this expeirence of maths that I used to find so logical. And, then I realised that all maths theories starts with a "basis asumption", like "if we consider that ...", "taking this or that ...", all the basis hipothesys on which each theories stands are humain made. Which means that if the theory stands on its 2 feet, you realise it stands on moving ground.
@justanoldman1 Then do you really feel reassured like the children in the dark that you are, when you walking on "moving grounds". Me as a children, if I am afraid of the dark I'd rather turn the light on !
@justanoldman1 Also, it makes me think of one thing in some of the "reverts" story it happends that they found Allah exactly when they realised that the ground on which they established themselves collapsed.
@justanoldman1 Did you see the series of videos of Dr. Jeffrey Lang ? He is a maths teacher and apparently this false god didn't helped him after all ! I don't know but I think a real scientist (I mean an honest one) is nearest to allah cause he knows that he doesn't know !
@justanoldman1 In class they told me that 2 parallel lines never cross each other, you know the funny thing about it, is that there is no such 2 lines in the world ! (The world is not even a perfect ball). So who is really "disturbed" (when you refered to prophets being disturbed) ?
@justanoldman1 Your have a lazy view of life, why should the Creator ''run'' the world, while we people live in it. It' s like telling your mom to clean your messy room while your 18 years old and can do it your self. Do you enslave people to work for you while you get paid? Damn.. as long as people keep blaming the Creator for everything mankind has ruined, they will never figure out their real purpose in life.
@mocroroosje18 Well even look at the creatures that are now extent, 99% and the other 1% had to evolve from thier original form. Is that the work of a god?
We know what the real purpose of life is, that same for all plants and animals, reproduce the spieces period.
@justanoldman1 Why not? Not understanding why the Creator would do the things he does, does n' t immediately mean that there is no Creator. A question to you how many kids do you have or are you planning to have? Because funny thing is; atheists don t usually have many kids. Why is that so? Is n' t that the purpose of our life? And another question, do you believe that this is the only purpose of life?
@mocroroosje18 My wife and I have 5 children, we have fulfilled our purpose in life and now we can die in peace.
I also think my purpose was to provide a better life for my children than I got but that is not the main purpose.
I am an atheist and proud of it and nothing will ever change my mind because the facts are so clear. Go ahead and pray to your pretend old man in the sky, but you are wasting your time and effort for nothing. There is nothing there and never was.
i am talking the guy who put this video trying to make money of it. let nonbelievers get advantage from it, let dr jeffery lang teach this people what the truth is all about thanks dr
allah the one and only true god of the heaven and earth created human's, jinn's and angel only for worship and humans and jinns have free will unlike angels
start from science in the holy quran, the fact that the Quran is the only book ever in the world that can be completely memorized even by a 6 year old boy so you cant make additions to it or subtract from it, try reading parts of the Quran, in short you can ask people on youtube to explain it to you, you have to do the research yourself with purpose, thats like asking someone how does skydiving feel they can explain it but you will never know until you do it yourself
hi, well the science part is one aspect, but theres also many other parts, but u are d only one who can discover them for self. Have you actually tried to read the Qur'an in its entirety ? When you read it your mind will tell you whether its the truth or not
Dude, just look around. Things are too good to be true. The perfect order that's around you. I mean if you THINK. Think about your body alone. Every single part of your body. The perfect harmony and design. Two eyes, eyebrows, ears, one nose and mouth right in the middle. I mean I can go on but this box is limited with 500 characters! Wether you believe in Allah or God or Eloh... Dude, there is a superior being! Whatever you name it... I am following the Koran. I strongly recommend it to you too
My body uses the same tube for air and food, carries unused organs that will cause infections, can't fight deseases without science .. dude, YOU should look around.
God is an old superstition, we can behave and love each other without his threats.
But if you need him to behave, be my guest, keep on believing.
Everything is well planned. Those things you mentioned above only do not exist in the heaven, which you don't believe. I have no problem with that, we can still be buddies. If you say that your body can't fight deceases without science, then you don't know that your body is fighting every single nanosecond against the unwanted organisms in your body. There's a constant work, being done automatically.
Unconscience substances becoming into living things. Those things come together and become you. And you can think. You can even deny the existence if God with the free-will (and thinking) that he gave to you. You said love each other... How did that love come? Can you please explain to me? Feelings, dreams. Flu virus that's been on since the existence of human beings, yet still cannot be defeated. God's right there infront of you.
Sorry man i already passed trough everything you said.
Love, hate and all the feelings come from my mind.
I was a believer anyway, as i was used to believe in santa and the boogieman.
It's just superstitions, i don't believe in invisible entities and that's final .. but of course we can be buddies, my whole family is religious, i don't blame anybody for his beliefs, i blame whoever try to impose that on me (not your case) threatning with tortures in hell and similar things ..
Dude, my belief is: "To you is your belief and to me is mine". Isn't that simple. Would keep the world a whole lot peaceful, too. I have never personally threatened anyone with hell, and I don't approve of it when people do it. I think believing in God has not much to do with proofs. It's a matter of faith and period.
He's so close to you than you are to yourself. He is the all knowing, almighty. Don't get me wrong, I am not of those who are trying to fight with science. I think science proves the existence of God, or Allah. Well, you may call that ultimate being whatever you want, but there is one. And he is God.
I don't think god wants diseases, cause i don't think there's any god.
Still, diseases and natural disasters exist way before humans, so if YOU believe in god, YOU have to accept that HE creates diseases and earthquakes, like the one who killed 230.000 few weeks ago.
Sorry, i am not superstitious, i don't dance for rain, i don't offer animal corpses, i don't pray .. cause i don't believe in invisible people .. the same way you don't believe in Thor, CAN U GET IT?
Being agnostic about the existence of god (knowledge, not faith) is the only reasonable position for anybody.
About the god of the bible (one among the hundreds of possible gods) is it's very description that makes me atheist, as you are atheist about EVERY OTHER GOD(s) but him.
Your god doesn't make sense.
YOU said: it's NOT a perfect world .. right, so if there's a creator, he is NOT perfect .. or he is not ALL LOVING.
1st - IF god is ALL KNOWING, he knew that angel would rebel, so it's his fault, no exuses, end of story.
2nd - The story of "satan" is mostly written during the middle age, in fact the lucifer that you can find in the bible is actually the king of Babylon (Isaia, 14, 12-14), not a demon or the devil.
If you want to support the bible, please read it at least.
"How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! 13 You said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High." .. etc [ISAIAH 14]
Islamic teaching holds that there is no such thing as a fallen angel, because angels don't possess free will and are incapable of disobedience to their creator. Although Iblis was originally in Heaven in the company of angels, he was a jinn a different kind of being than angels.
peace be upon you my brother hakos3d, i like your comment , its very niice, it got a lot of knowledgde, i hope that evey muslim will answer in such a smart way instead of attacking wihtout proof and knwoledge, may god bless every kind man, and peace !
And that is Exactly what the ALLAH said in QURAN(I KNOW WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW) .That is what he told the Anlges.then he ask them to bow to ADAM ,they all did eccept the SATAN.(the selfish )
The great answer that blew the speaker's mind was just another variation of the "God moves in mysterious ways," trope. Some people are too easily impressed.
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God created man so he can kill them with disasters and then burn them in hell for all eternity when they disobey . Go God!!! You are the ultimate mass murderer. All hail! sorry Heil!
" And I have not created the humans and the Jinns except to worship me. I do not want from them Sustenance and I do not want them to feed Me. For Allah is He Who gives (all) Sustenance,- Lord of Power,- Steadfast (for ever).
Read Surah Adh Dhariyat 51:56 and you will find the answer inshaAllah... Yes Allah Knows that which we do not know.. it's called knowledge of the unseen. Mankind is in a box, and he cannot think beyond the box because this is his human flaw. Allah is without flaws. Therefore man is in no position to question the logic of Allah.
He questioned it when he was reading Qur'an for the first time and he was an atheist...if you watch his full story you will understand what his conclusion was. It's actually very very eye-opening and insightful. He explains it in such a magnificent way, you should really watch the lecture. just search on YouTube: "From Atheism to Belief by Dr. Jeffrey Lang"
In fact the very fundamentals of the scientific method are based in teachings and the knowledge acquired by Muslim scientists of the Medieval Period, who sought to learn about God's creation. If it weren't for Muslim polymaths of the Medieval Period, the very basis for science wouldn't exist.
But then again, I need to check if I learned that before I became religious or afterwards.
It's pathetic to think you don't have enough time in a day (or a lifetime) to learn about religion and science.
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looooooooooooooooooooooooool fucking lies! it s amazing how you muslims are systematically trying to reown every breakthrough in history. sciences in Europe existed for long already. the very basis for science is curiosity, observation and logic you fucking carpet, towel face
muslims dont believe god created the earth in a few days. Rather we are well aware that the heavenly days are years longer than the earthly days, and its in that sense we understand it. Only when you know arabic and the quran can you understand which verses refer to earthly days or the ones used to describe the time taken to make earth which is probably thousand of years (to make). We also believe it was existant many years before man was created. thus around for millions.
According to Jeffrey Lang (Professor of Mathematics at University of Kansas) that question is answered I would love to explain his answer but 500 characters won't do justice.
Read his book "Struggling to Surrender" I like Dr. Jeffrey Lang since he has experienced Catholicism, Agnosticism, and Atheism (his prominent belief before converting to Islam).
He talks about how god is transcendent in time (time is illusory) and relates his to the purpose of "prayer" and life.
if you cant "do it" in 500 or 1000, then a book wont do it either. it doesnt matter whether time is illusory or not. what rather matters is that "prayer" was shown to be more harmful thane prosperous in some relatively recent studies. photons are transcendent in time too. are photons or some kind of "master photon" the deity you are relating to? theism dwindles because "photon" doesnt care.
the captions reads "Why Did God..?". no (satisfying) answer is given. "God" = failed hypothesis.
I was MERELY talking about the subjects in the book and not trying to prove god using those concepts...
If you have ever taken philosophy you can neither prove or disprove god but you could prove existence of "non-contingent" things in order for something to be a source of life (ie. big bang, god and any non-contingent thing).
You cannot say the concept god is "foolish" according to a philosophical perspective.
"If you have ever taken philosophy you can neither prove or disprove god"
this is nonsense. of course you can disprove "god". it only depends how we define god. then we can sort out the contradictions. the good old "theistic concept" is falsifiable. the modern intellectual "vankhoff" became just an art of escapism! thats the real problem here. yet escapism aint what a theistic deity is supposed to be about.
yes, the concept of "God" (the theistic one) was shown to be foolish...
Muhammad failed a direct test of his claim to prophethood. He was asked to explain why a child will look like one parent as opposed to looking like the other. He claimed that Gabriel came and gave the inspired answer; Bukhari vol. IV: no. 546. This is dealing with 'revelation' and not just Mo's personal opinion. He said that the child will look like whichever parent reaches his or her sexual climax first. The study of genetics and DNA forever disproves this stupid false idea/theory.
When 'Abdullah bin Salam heard the arrival of the Prophet at Medina, he came to him and said, "I am going to ask you about three things which nobody knows except a prophet: What is the first portent of the Hour? What will be the first meal taken by the people of Paradise? Why does a child resemble its father, and why does it resemble its maternal uncle" Allah's Apostle said, "Gabriel has just now told me of their answers."
'Abdullah said, "He (i.e. Gabriel), from amongst all the angels, is the enemy of the Jews." Allah's Apostle said, "The first portent of the Hour will be a fire that will bring together the people from the east to the west; the first meal of the people of Paradise will be Extra-lobe (caudate lobe) of fish-liver.
As for the resemblance of the child to its parents: If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble the father, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her." On that 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "I testify that you are the Apostle of Allah."
Now let's step into reality. How related we are to someone with our physical appearance is determined by how much of their DNA (Deoxyribo Nucleic Acid) we share. This has nothing to do with who got "horney first before the intercourse started", whether you mom or dad. We get half of our DNA from mother and half from father. DNA contains all of the instructions for making you. And most of these instructions come in the form of genes. Genes control obvious things like eye shape and hair color etc.
Clearly you are a person who has never read the Holy Quran. If you really want to give an opinion, why dont you read the Quran first with honesty and truth, and then give us your opinion. That is if you are a reasonable and an intelligent person.
he did it so he could troll us.
charliepossenriede 3 weeks ago
GOD DIDNT CREAT US > WE CREATED GOD FFS!!!!!!!!!!! yer this needed caps :D
Typho0n86 3 months ago
"Some people say that there is no humain explanation for the Quran, wouldn't it be a kind of evidence ? ( Something that you won't find in anti-islamic sources xD )."
Anti-Islamic? Ok...the wording is maybe a little off. Makes it sound like other texts are against Islam.
The Quran, Bible, Torah and other books explain many things - and do them very well. But none of those things are things that could not have been gleaned or imagine by the smart humans that have existed throughout history.
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 I often like to read "anti-islamic sources" just to learn how they work, the problem is that somtimes they have to lie or take off-context and bring an imaginary interpretation just to fit what they want, i think this is what we can call "against" islam.
Of course there are lot of things that can be imagined by humains, but when i said that sometimes there is no humain explanation, i meant somethings that couldn't.
Text is limited so i cannot give some examples.
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babkrani 3 months ago
"Yea scientific data lead us to conclude that the universe has One, immaterial, uncaused and conscious cause ( Cosmological argument )" - Not sure that it does. Depends on your definitions. The natural cosmos is explained by natural causes... and it does point to a singular point in history - not sure you could call that immaterial. please explain this.
"...but at least it matches the Quranic concept of God." - It matches the description of many differing texts.
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CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 The universe begun with a big bang, space and time and all the natural forces emerged at the same "time". Logically, everything that has a beginning has a cause, therefore the universe has a cause, this cause cannot be bound by thse cause, and we cannot have an infinite regress of causes because if so we won't have a universe, therefore it must be one and immaterial. And since we have a universe instead of nothing, it must have chosen it.
I agree with the last part :)
babkrani 3 months ago
@babkrani - Nice. But arguable. Big bang happened. We can postulate that it was caused, but by what is the question. The fact that we do not know (yet if ever) does not mean it was created on purpose or that had a creating agent that is anthropomorphic. That is a big leap. I think what people see in scripture in relation to science is the ponderings of ancient people who were smart, but lacked tools to prove conjectures. They laid out these possibilities, but [More next post].
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 I gess i would agree with you, but my argument can be found in the Quran concerning the big bang, "Do those who are disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were sewn together and then We unstitched them and that We made from water every living thing? So will they not have faith?" (21: 30) ( An evidence right ? )
I can agree with you that we are not sure, and we probably never will be.
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babkrani 3 months ago
@babkrani - I will give Islam credit in that out of the Abrahamic traditions it is usually more open to scientific endeavor. However it still explains things in terms that were available in the days it was written. What they could not fully explain, such as the purpose of existence is solved by the place holder 'god did it'. This answers much, without actually adding knowledge. I wouldn't claim a problem with my car is the will of god, because we have a good working knowledge of cars. [more]
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 About the "car" exemple i'll give you a link that gives another view about how the answer can be: /watch?v=OrcWntw9juM
Of course, we will never be able to fully imagine with our limited brain what God can be, but as far as knowledge is increasing, the concept of God is being more accurate.
If you interested in continuing the discussion, i hope you send a Private message because comments in youtube are annoying.
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babkrani 3 months ago
What I try to understand is why someone who would never ever say he couldn't solve a differential equation by stating it is the will of god would defer to a god concerning other matters rather than research those matters as he would the diff eq.. I know that knowing everything is not humanly possible, but saying that god did it only defers the investigation. Example: Why is the sky blue? "God wills it" only addresses intent - which is unprovable when you invoke god, while not actually explaining
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 The best strenght is to know one's own weakness. We shouldn't underestimate the fix firm we are in, that later we won't be able to explain. There will be some set rules and we will just stop and say why this and this. The infinite regress of causes is absurd and impossible, logic always will lead us to one uncaused being that was the origin of everything.
About the exemple, science explains only how the sky is blue, but it never gives a why.
Hope you got my point.
babkrani 3 months ago
Christian apologetics at its best. And its still worthless...
Hornadayfan 3 months ago
I did not notice any proof of god in that video. What I saw was a person finding some meaning in text. Regardless of whether or not it is consistent it offers no proof of any god at all. The accurate observations and ideas in the Koran could also be explained by the observant person writing it down. I do not want to slam Islam in particular because no religious text seems to offer any evidence of god. If you accept the concept of god then religious texts hold water - otherwise not.
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 You just missed the point of the video, or just copying others ideas ??
babkrani 3 months ago
@babkrani - I suppose I did. What I was looking for was a clue as to why a Mathematician who used to be agnostic/Atheist would suddenly find meaning in a holy book of any kind. I have witnessed this in other people, but towards Christianity. From what I have seen a person reads something meaningful to himself and then suspends logic and reason when it comes to that belief system. A sort of trade off. They stop asking whether it's true or not and simply accept it to be true.
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 I suggest you look to the whole lecture, because 100 seconds won't really convince anyone.
In this video he was talking about the question made by the angels: "Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, while we glorify You with praises and thanks and sanctify You... ".
Also any sane person can notice that the univese isn't the result of physical necessity nor chance. So i don't think that it is not logical to believe in the supernatural.
Peace.
babkrani 3 months ago
@babkrani -
I agree there is some intuitveness involved in seeing a hand in the creation of things. However science is all about having those intuitions, drawing from observable facts and seeing the mechanisms involved (proving). Aside from an intuitive feeling that all of creation may have had a hand there is little, if any, evidence to support this. Creation itself is not evidence of a creator in that it does not elimate all other possibilities. Other possibilities offer more support.
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 Another version ? Everything we see out there is evidence. What about the humain brain ? What about the cells programed to recognize each other ? What about bees, camels, ants and flies... I think science works only when it explains "how". The rational and logical reasoning is the only key to reach/deny a creator. That is why the Quran says that they fail to reason.
But of course there are psycological, philosophical and intuitive reasons aswell.
babkrani 3 months ago
@babkrani - That is what I mean. Creation could have had a creator, and it could be a dragon, god, alien race, etc. It offers nothing to narrow the scope of 'whom' it was. This leaves the possibility that one creator created everything and someone else took the credit with no real way to know this. My stance is that we DO have plenty of explanations for creation that do not rely on a creator and have some evidence for it. Just as we DO have a good explanation for electric currents without god.
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
@CaptainGreen2008 Yea scientific data lead us to conclude that the universe has One, immaterial, uncaused and conscious cause ( Cosmological argument ) ... It is not necessary to be the creator claimed by any religion, but at least it matches the Quranic concept of God.
Some people say that there is no humain explanation for the Quran, wouldn't it be a kind of evidence ? ( Something that you won't find in anti-islamic sources xD ).
babkrani 3 months ago
@babkrani - I will watch all the available vids on this(and many many other debates and lectures)... I am very interested in how the mind works. I do not wish to insult when posting these remarks. I really do want to know why some people suddenly believe in things that could easily have gone one way or the other. I know some converts to Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism. The fact that their directions are so varied leads me to question whether any of them are valid explanations.
CaptainGreen2008 3 months ago
Allah,zeus,Thor,vishnu,Yhawe, all of these gods are as imaginary as santa clause i feel sorry for all of you deluded saps, giving away your freedom to one of the worst religions in the history of mankind. oh well you guys were brain washed into believing this BS as children poor deluded saps.
Tethloach1 3 months ago
@Tethloach1 If i tell you that i am a convert by rational means, would you call me stupid ?
babkrani 3 months ago
@babkrani hmmm.... good for you now you can waste the rest of your life praying and kissing gods ass have fun worshipping an imaginary being.
Tethloach1 3 months ago
@Tethloach1 hmmm ... Wrong answer, the answer could only be a yes or a no !! =) ... Anyways have a good life.
babkrani 3 months ago
Please upload the rest of the talk, you can't just leave us hanging like that, we want to know how he understood the answer toooo.
sunrisesotrue 5 months ago
SubhanAllah MashaAllah may Allah reward and guide our brother Ameen
BrotherSkillz 6 months ago
Many people making jokes.....................
This man is a professor in mathematics and he was a leader of Atheists and he converted from Atheism to Islam after reading some verses from the Holy Qur'an.
After all of this information its obvious that this man has achieved, and deserves all goods and respect, so please people stop disrespecting him ^_^
HyperDarkness91 6 months ago
well at least he's on the right path, temporaly delrailed, but on the right path.
AbuAvital 6 months ago
He sounds like someone put a clamp on his bollocks?
ilikezappa 6 months ago
I know why "God" created human beings.
Because the creative force wanted to be able to experience its creation first hand.
We are drops of God, our life = Gods experience.
a simple question.
Why create everything and not be able to enjoy it. Its like a chef that cannot eat/taste food, why be a chef?
The Great Spirit created all and through ALL LIFE the creator lives in the verse.
skb0rzn 8 months ago
"God" didn't create human being you R tards. Human beings created "God"
fatsachs 9 months ago
@fatsachs God also created hell fire for those who deny the Creator and mock his signs
sunrisesotrue 5 months ago
@fatsachs you seem to have knowledge of something i dont.
explain your alligation if you can. if you cant, you will be ignored and im sure thats not what you want because you wouldnt bother saying Human beings created "God".
read a few books about neurology and answere this question to YOURSELF: how is it physicaly possible to lift an arm or leg.
blind faith isnt worth anything, but bottomless alligations and incomplete thoughts are too.
liquidbokii88 5 months ago
watch through heavens eyes for the answer
116gaara 10 months ago
How can i translate this transcribe audio texts?
dilmac9 11 months ago
LoL at his voice.. I was almost expecting him to go "You know that novel you've been working on, that novel you've been working on for three years" while his voice became more and more high pitched.. xD
pilotbutterfly 11 months ago 11
@pilotbutterfly LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHIBBYiPANDA 11 months ago
@pilotbutterfly well it is something that bothered him for many many years you see.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
is this a real video or dubbed?
nazirdjon 11 months ago
@nazirdjon its his story when he was atheist and he started to read the qur'an and then later how he converted to islam
theproudONE92 10 months ago
ha ha ha ha ha .... say what? "in the beginning there were DINOSAURS!!!
MasterBowyer 1 year ago
may allah guide all of us to heaven
moman3r33 1 year ago
This man sounds like someone is standing on his balls.
DrVarney 1 year ago
@DrVarney sounds like the crazy guy from the police academy
niggerfuckshitreborn 1 year ago
@niggerfuckshitreborn
After reading your comment that's all I heard... I couldn't watch the rest of the video lol. And might I suggest you change your username.
rabdpnguin 1 year ago
this guy is a professor, he is either dumb or stuipid,, how did GOD tell us this information, did allah write the quran or give it to mankind. the quran is a man written book like all other religious books, but the difference is muslims claim it is the word of GOD. yet when the book was written, man had to testify to each other about the sayings and then written down. Quran has taken many teachings around at the time, it is not the word of GOD, it is a man made book,
mohamedkhansheik 1 year ago
@mohamedkhansheik dont talk about big issues that you have no even a background about them ! Look how many Bibles are there ? You will find lots and lots of it and they are different, but go ahead and look how may Qurans ? You will find all of them are the same ! Noboby can change even a letter in it, however, Bible has been changed so that you find many of it !
FatmaAMA1 1 year ago
@mohamedkhansheik The Book is man made, ideas were spoken through the mouth, but the inspiration by God. Is that logical enough to you, do you understand intuition, can you prove it mathematically ? The thoery of everything could not.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
Atheists like to paint people who believe in God as illogical, unreasonable and blind followers.
Infact, the founders of logic, at least those who wrote it down first, the Greeks, such as Plato and Aristotle who are praised very much by western scientists came to the conclusion that there must be a God - who they refered to as the unmoved mover and the uncaused cause. Such was the belief of other men praised by atheist such as Newton and Einstein.
Axmad1430 1 year ago
Furthmore, this belief is the belief of the overwhelming majority of people from all walks of life, from all times in history. It is in fact the atheists who are illogical, unreasonable and follow and act upon blind belief and faith in their arrogant atheist leaders whom they would think to question.
Allah (God) Almighty has revealed in the Qur'an why everything is as it is, read and you'll be convinced if you are sincere.
By the way, "the guy" is a Professor of Mathematics at Kansas Uni
Axmad1430 1 year ago
@Axmad1430 WELL SAID!
wishingwellspring 6 months ago
@Axmad1430.... it's called theory every religious book was a theory. However, they are outdated theories. In respect we could even call it historical theory for the meaning of life. But, what about examining our lives in practically... who believes in god? the poor and the rich. The poor need god since their lives suck and they need to be ensured that all these misfortunes will be overcome because their god cares about them, and the rich love god because well...their rich. It is called incentive
imita01 5 months ago
i'm the big god then
y44r 1 year ago
What a WEAK MAN
King00000000000000 1 year ago
this guy isn't a scientist, he sure has a science degree, but what he's saying now isn't science,..so he can't taken seriously!!
Atheist603 1 year ago
if there is no god, then i am god
Gianna14 1 year ago
@Gianna14 u r a god of jackasses,, hey have you any idea about some seconds of your birth, so shut the fuck up.
zamarino 1 year ago
after adam and eve ate of the tree of knowledge, why didn't he just start over?
Mrsteddyz 1 year ago
WOW I can't believe what I am reading here. Are you all children that you believe in fairy tales?
justanoldman1 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 fairy tales? explain please..
faheemthedream2007 1 year ago
@faheemthedream2007 All reigions and god are man made. Since the beinging of time man has created thousands of different religions and different gods. We creat gods to explain the unknown because we are like children and afraid of the dark.
We have now entered the age of reason and logic andwith science there is no more room for a pretend god and a man made religion. Even your prophets are man made, these people were is most part just very disturbed and thought of themselves as gods.
justanoldman1 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 First point, there is a little mistake in what you say : None of the prophets thought themselves as gods. They do were all and each of them humains beings.
meelusine 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 Second point : sciences and logics are not gods. I personally went to this expeirence of maths that I used to find so logical. And, then I realised that all maths theories starts with a "basis asumption", like "if we consider that ...", "taking this or that ...", all the basis hipothesys on which each theories stands are humain made. Which means that if the theory stands on its 2 feet, you realise it stands on moving ground.
meelusine 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 Then do you really feel reassured like the children in the dark that you are, when you walking on "moving grounds". Me as a children, if I am afraid of the dark I'd rather turn the light on !
meelusine 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 Also, it makes me think of one thing in some of the "reverts" story it happends that they found Allah exactly when they realised that the ground on which they established themselves collapsed.
meelusine 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 Did you see the series of videos of Dr. Jeffrey Lang ? He is a maths teacher and apparently this false god didn't helped him after all ! I don't know but I think a real scientist (I mean an honest one) is nearest to allah cause he knows that he doesn't know !
meelusine 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 In class they told me that 2 parallel lines never cross each other, you know the funny thing about it, is that there is no such 2 lines in the world ! (The world is not even a perfect ball). So who is really "disturbed" (when you refered to prophets being disturbed) ?
meelusine 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 You know I like conversations that's all ! 'cause it will really be Allah who will decided for you, not me !
meelusine 1 year ago
@meelusine Allah is nothing to me, less than nothing a zero.
If allah was for real, he is doing a very poor job of running this world and if that is the case, I am sure he would ruin the next one as well.
justanoldman1 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 Oh so that is your answer ! Salam (peace) !
meelusine 1 year ago
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mocroroosje18 5 months ago
@justanoldman1 Your have a lazy view of life, why should the Creator ''run'' the world, while we people live in it. It' s like telling your mom to clean your messy room while your 18 years old and can do it your self. Do you enslave people to work for you while you get paid? Damn.. as long as people keep blaming the Creator for everything mankind has ruined, they will never figure out their real purpose in life.
mocroroosje18 5 months ago
@mocroroosje18 Well even look at the creatures that are now extent, 99% and the other 1% had to evolve from thier original form. Is that the work of a god?
We know what the real purpose of life is, that same for all plants and animals, reproduce the spieces period.
justanoldman1 5 months ago
@justanoldman1 Why not? Not understanding why the Creator would do the things he does, does n' t immediately mean that there is no Creator. A question to you how many kids do you have or are you planning to have? Because funny thing is; atheists don t usually have many kids. Why is that so? Is n' t that the purpose of our life? And another question, do you believe that this is the only purpose of life?
mocroroosje18 5 months ago
@mocroroosje18 My wife and I have 5 children, we have fulfilled our purpose in life and now we can die in peace.
I also think my purpose was to provide a better life for my children than I got but that is not the main purpose.
I am an atheist and proud of it and nothing will ever change my mind because the facts are so clear. Go ahead and pray to your pretend old man in the sky, but you are wasting your time and effort for nothing. There is nothing there and never was.
justanoldman1 5 months ago
@justanoldman1 Did you personally assist to an exorcism ? I personally did, and believe me its no fairy tale !
meelusine 1 year ago
@meelusine no but I saw the movie.
justanoldman1 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 I didnot see the movie you are talking about, but what I saw was no movie !
meelusine 1 year ago
i am talking the guy who put this video trying to make money of it. let nonbelievers get advantage from it, let dr jeffery lang teach this people what the truth is all about thanks dr
rakoraaxo2 1 year ago
Why is that guy talking in such a high pitched voice? lol
ClythiaMystica 1 year ago
@ClythiaMystica excited! -_-
faheemthedream2007 1 year ago
this dude has the funniest voice... aaaaahhhh blahh blaahhh blaahhh blaahhh... lol...
Relik0414 2 years ago
This "dude" is a professor of math for over 20 yrs.
Highabove01 2 years ago
Therefore Islam is true? Or what...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
holy jesus this is my math teacher
Heick08 2 years ago
Search on YouTube: "From Atheism to Belief by Dr. Jeffrey Lang"
haqqulyaqeen 2 years ago
"Why Did God Create Human Beings?"
It's a trick question, there is no "god" or other invisible guys.
"Why Did WE Create gods?"
.. that's an interesting question!
ChristianIce 2 years ago
allah the one and only true god of the heaven and earth created human's, jinn's and angel only for worship and humans and jinns have free will unlike angels
aafaneh03S 2 years ago
Allah is fake as much as god or Thor.
That's my opinion and it's not going to change unless somebody will show some evidence.
ChristianIce 2 years ago
start from science in the holy quran, the fact that the Quran is the only book ever in the world that can be completely memorized even by a 6 year old boy so you cant make additions to it or subtract from it, try reading parts of the Quran, in short you can ask people on youtube to explain it to you, you have to do the research yourself with purpose, thats like asking someone how does skydiving feel they can explain it but you will never know until you do it yourself
allbonafide 2 years ago
Search the Holy Qur'an and Science. There's your proof, one of many.
AhmetBarutDesign 2 years ago
@AhmetBarutDesign
Iron is usefull, we have fingerprints .. so what?
I need proof of an invisible creator that will judge me in the end of time, i need it in the real world, not in the words of a book.
ChristianIce 2 years ago
hi, well the science part is one aspect, but theres also many other parts, but u are d only one who can discover them for self. Have you actually tried to read the Qur'an in its entirety ? When you read it your mind will tell you whether its the truth or not
AhmetBarutDesign 2 years ago
Dude, just look around. Things are too good to be true. The perfect order that's around you. I mean if you THINK. Think about your body alone. Every single part of your body. The perfect harmony and design. Two eyes, eyebrows, ears, one nose and mouth right in the middle. I mean I can go on but this box is limited with 500 characters! Wether you believe in Allah or God or Eloh... Dude, there is a superior being! Whatever you name it... I am following the Koran. I strongly recommend it to you too
hakos3d 2 years ago
@hakos3d
Cancer, Tumors, Handicaps, Earthquakes, Tzunamies, Exploding Volcanos, Poisoned mushrooms?
Things are not that good.
My body uses the same tube for air and food, carries unused organs that will cause infections, can't fight deseases without science .. dude, YOU should look around.
God is an old superstition, we can behave and love each other without his threats.
But if you need him to behave, be my guest, keep on believing.
ChristianIce 2 years ago
Everything is well planned. Those things you mentioned above only do not exist in the heaven, which you don't believe. I have no problem with that, we can still be buddies. If you say that your body can't fight deceases without science, then you don't know that your body is fighting every single nanosecond against the unwanted organisms in your body. There's a constant work, being done automatically.
hakos3d 2 years ago
Unconscience substances becoming into living things. Those things come together and become you. And you can think. You can even deny the existence if God with the free-will (and thinking) that he gave to you. You said love each other... How did that love come? Can you please explain to me? Feelings, dreams. Flu virus that's been on since the existence of human beings, yet still cannot be defeated. God's right there infront of you.
hakos3d 2 years ago
@hakos3d
Sorry man i already passed trough everything you said.
Love, hate and all the feelings come from my mind.
I was a believer anyway, as i was used to believe in santa and the boogieman.
It's just superstitions, i don't believe in invisible entities and that's final .. but of course we can be buddies, my whole family is religious, i don't blame anybody for his beliefs, i blame whoever try to impose that on me (not your case) threatning with tortures in hell and similar things ..
ChristianIce 2 years ago
Dude, my belief is: "To you is your belief and to me is mine". Isn't that simple. Would keep the world a whole lot peaceful, too. I have never personally threatened anyone with hell, and I don't approve of it when people do it. I think believing in God has not much to do with proofs. It's a matter of faith and period.
hakos3d 2 years ago
@hakos3d
:) you are a good peson.
Hey happy new year!!
Cheerz!!
ChristianIce 2 years ago
To you, too!
Ciao!
hakos3d 2 years ago
He's so close to you than you are to yourself. He is the all knowing, almighty. Don't get me wrong, I am not of those who are trying to fight with science. I think science proves the existence of God, or Allah. Well, you may call that ultimate being whatever you want, but there is one. And he is God.
So, are a theist now? :-P Just kidding
hakos3d 2 years ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
I don't think god wants diseases, cause i don't think there's any god.
Still, diseases and natural disasters exist way before humans, so if YOU believe in god, YOU have to accept that HE creates diseases and earthquakes, like the one who killed 230.000 few weeks ago.
Sorry, i am not superstitious, i don't dance for rain, i don't offer animal corpses, i don't pray .. cause i don't believe in invisible people .. the same way you don't believe in Thor, CAN U GET IT?
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
I am fine, thanks :)
Being agnostic about the existence of god (knowledge, not faith) is the only reasonable position for anybody.
About the god of the bible (one among the hundreds of possible gods) is it's very description that makes me atheist, as you are atheist about EVERY OTHER GOD(s) but him.
Your god doesn't make sense.
YOU said: it's NOT a perfect world .. right, so if there's a creator, he is NOT perfect .. or he is not ALL LOVING.
when it comes to logic god always fail
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
Yep, busy man, right ...
Just don't start arguing next time ;)
Good luck with your life too man, remember there's only a precious single one!
Cheerz!
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
Should i believe because YOU had a personal experience?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
The Devil character makes no sense as well, unless god is NOT omnipotent or all-knowing HE creates the devil, so it's god's fault anyway.
I told you, when it comes to logic god always fail.
I see you believe, fine, just accept that i don't. I can behave without threats from invible entities, cheerz ;)
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
Illogical.
1st - IF god is ALL KNOWING, he knew that angel would rebel, so it's his fault, no exuses, end of story.
2nd - The story of "satan" is mostly written during the middle age, in fact the lucifer that you can find in the bible is actually the king of Babylon (Isaia, 14, 12-14), not a demon or the devil.
If you want to support the bible, please read it at least.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
There is no story about satan .. is actually what i said.
About the illogicity, of course, you cannot reply anything.
Sounding silly to someone who believes in invisible people is a big compliment, thank you!
It's weird that you don't have isaiah 14 in your bible anyway :D
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
LOL
"How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! 13 You said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High." .. etc [ISAIAH 14]
ChristianIce 1 year ago
About satan i wrote:
"The story of "satan" is mostly written during the middle age, in fact the lucifer that you can find in the bible is actually the king of Babylon "
Buy yourself some glasses and a bible kid, and learn that when somebody says isaiah 14, he means the CHAPTER .. LOL
I can't believe i am explaining this to a grown up :D :D :D
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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visionseeker50 1 year ago
Exactly man, i want to control god, you finally understand.
You are so right, silly me thinking that I could decide for myself, lol, your wisdom was really helpful.
Mom says hi, she said that when i ll be a grownup like you i will finally forget how to admit that i said something stupid.
Please don't reply, you know i cannot resist writing you back.
Bye everybody in the grownup room, hi to dragons, unicorns, wizards and talking snakes, hi to all invisible people HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ChristianIce 1 year ago
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Fujackattack 1 year ago
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@ChristianIce
Islamic teaching holds that there is no such thing as a fallen angel, because angels don't possess free will and are incapable of disobedience to their creator. Although Iblis was originally in Heaven in the company of angels, he was a jinn a different kind of being than angels.
Fujackattack 1 year ago
@Fujackattack
Angels are created from light, while jinn are created from smokeless fire. Unlike angels, jinn do have free will and can commit sins.
Fujackattack 1 year ago
As I said before, i am not superstitious.
No offence, but I don't care much about the christian or jew or islamic version of the myth, cause it's just a myth to me.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
peace be upon you my brother hakos3d, i like your comment , its very niice, it got a lot of knowledgde, i hope that evey muslim will answer in such a smart way instead of attacking wihtout proof and knwoledge, may god bless every kind man, and peace !
MalikAlAshtar 2 years ago
Yes, God bless every kind man.
hakos3d 2 years ago
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because "he" knows what "we" dont know? what kind of answer is that? reminds me of the invisible penguin. it exists because we cant see it! lo!
pikechris1 2 years ago
testing comment.
shine121 2 years ago
And that is Exactly what the ALLAH said in QURAN(I KNOW WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW) .That is what he told the Anlges.then he ask them to bow to ADAM ,they all did eccept the SATAN.(the selfish )
abiverdi7 2 years ago
AMEN Brother .May be we get to know what ALI IBNE ABU TALIB is about.
abiverdi7 2 years ago
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God is a sadist. Hitler and others only tried to copy him but failed.
HammandClov 2 years ago
The great answer that blew the speaker's mind was just another variation of the "God moves in mysterious ways," trope. Some people are too easily impressed.
Bfdidc 2 years ago
Amen!
lambent77777 2 years ago
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God created man so he can kill them with disasters and then burn them in hell for all eternity when they disobey . Go God!!! You are the ultimate mass murderer. All hail! sorry Heil!
stevelkneivel 2 years ago
i never say lol, but lol dude, that shit is funny
gardenofskeetn 2 years ago
All go for atheism please :)
Ghotcom 2 years ago
Atheism? do you mean to not believe in god?
Adrontor 2 years ago
Allah gives the answer in the Quran:
" And I have not created the humans and the Jinns except to worship me. I do not want from them Sustenance and I do not want them to feed Me. For Allah is He Who gives (all) Sustenance,- Lord of Power,- Steadfast (for ever).
Taqwafirst 2 years ago 2
I dont think he is a true muslim. ...what ever and dont care.
I think that he is planted into this to help change the mentality of islam, which is a good thing.
emolater2 2 years ago
what the fuck are you talking about?
nonimoon9 2 years ago
Read Surah Adh Dhariyat 51:56 and you will find the answer inshaAllah... Yes Allah Knows that which we do not know.. it's called knowledge of the unseen. Mankind is in a box, and he cannot think beyond the box because this is his human flaw. Allah is without flaws. Therefore man is in no position to question the logic of Allah.
tasneefm 2 years ago 2
He questioned it when he was reading Qur'an for the first time and he was an atheist...if you watch his full story you will understand what his conclusion was. It's actually very very eye-opening and insightful. He explains it in such a magnificent way, you should really watch the lecture. just search on YouTube: "From Atheism to Belief by Dr. Jeffrey Lang"
haqqulyaqeen 2 years ago
Everyone needs to study science before they become religious.
emolater2 2 years ago
not necessarily, in fact, you can find very good religious people from all the levels of knowledge.
zakoot 2 years ago
In fact the very fundamentals of the scientific method are based in teachings and the knowledge acquired by Muslim scientists of the Medieval Period, who sought to learn about God's creation. If it weren't for Muslim polymaths of the Medieval Period, the very basis for science wouldn't exist.
But then again, I need to check if I learned that before I became religious or afterwards.
It's pathetic to think you don't have enough time in a day (or a lifetime) to learn about religion and science.
donAntony87 2 years ago
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looooooooooooooooooooooooool fucking lies! it s amazing how you muslims are systematically trying to reown every breakthrough in history. sciences in Europe existed for long already. the very basis for science is curiosity, observation and logic you fucking carpet, towel face
Ghotcom 2 years ago
God created us to share His love with us.
Hokufan100 2 years ago
I'm a thinking person, that's why I don't believe that the universe came from nothing by pure chance.
junkyard505 2 years ago
MASHALLAH!
SUBHANALLAH!
Couldn't have put it better myself.
donAntony87 2 years ago
Just as well no-one believes that then eh
PPartisan 2 years ago
nice try mushroom ;). now ask yourself what are the probabilities for you to be born in this universe? it s nearing zero lol pure chance!
and moreover the explanation for the universe birth is just an hypothesis it s not to be taken as the absolut truth!!!!!!!!!!!
also if you truely are a thinking person you should not either believe that the universe was created by a single all-mighty being in a few days.
Ghotcom 2 years ago
muslims dont believe god created the earth in a few days. Rather we are well aware that the heavenly days are years longer than the earthly days, and its in that sense we understand it. Only when you know arabic and the quran can you understand which verses refer to earthly days or the ones used to describe the time taken to make earth which is probably thousand of years (to make). We also believe it was existant many years before man was created. thus around for millions.
lalamusa1 2 years ago
erm... and the quwstion stays unanswered. how come?
pikechris1 2 years ago
According to Jeffrey Lang (Professor of Mathematics at University of Kansas) that question is answered I would love to explain his answer but 500 characters won't do justice.
Read his book "Struggling to Surrender" I like Dr. Jeffrey Lang since he has experienced Catholicism, Agnosticism, and Atheism (his prominent belief before converting to Islam).
He talks about how god is transcendent in time (time is illusory) and relates his to the purpose of "prayer" and life.
SubmissiveDeen 2 years ago
if you cant "do it" in 500 or 1000, then a book wont do it either. it doesnt matter whether time is illusory or not. what rather matters is that "prayer" was shown to be more harmful thane prosperous in some relatively recent studies. photons are transcendent in time too. are photons or some kind of "master photon" the deity you are relating to? theism dwindles because "photon" doesnt care.
the captions reads "Why Did God..?". no (satisfying) answer is given. "God" = failed hypothesis.
pikechris1 2 years ago
I was MERELY talking about the subjects in the book and not trying to prove god using those concepts...
If you have ever taken philosophy you can neither prove or disprove god but you could prove existence of "non-contingent" things in order for something to be a source of life (ie. big bang, god and any non-contingent thing).
You cannot say the concept god is "foolish" according to a philosophical perspective.
SubmissiveDeen 2 years ago
"If you have ever taken philosophy you can neither prove or disprove god"
this is nonsense. of course you can disprove "god". it only depends how we define god. then we can sort out the contradictions. the good old "theistic concept" is falsifiable. the modern intellectual "vankhoff" became just an art of escapism! thats the real problem here. yet escapism aint what a theistic deity is supposed to be about.
yes, the concept of "God" (the theistic one) was shown to be foolish...
pikechris1 2 years ago
Muhammad failed a direct test of his claim to prophethood. He was asked to explain why a child will look like one parent as opposed to looking like the other. He claimed that Gabriel came and gave the inspired answer; Bukhari vol. IV: no. 546. This is dealing with 'revelation' and not just Mo's personal opinion. He said that the child will look like whichever parent reaches his or her sexual climax first. The study of genetics and DNA forever disproves this stupid false idea/theory.
AkatsukiKanjiKana3 3 years ago
give us a proof that that what muhammad said is wrong.immediately!
chechenzizeg 3 years ago
Hadith of Sahih Al Bukhari 4:546
Narrated Anas:
When 'Abdullah bin Salam heard the arrival of the Prophet at Medina, he came to him and said, "I am going to ask you about three things which nobody knows except a prophet: What is the first portent of the Hour? What will be the first meal taken by the people of Paradise? Why does a child resemble its father, and why does it resemble its maternal uncle" Allah's Apostle said, "Gabriel has just now told me of their answers."
AkatsukiKanjiKana3 3 years ago
Continue..
'Abdullah said, "He (i.e. Gabriel), from amongst all the angels, is the enemy of the Jews." Allah's Apostle said, "The first portent of the Hour will be a fire that will bring together the people from the east to the west; the first meal of the people of Paradise will be Extra-lobe (caudate lobe) of fish-liver.
AkatsukiKanjiKana3 3 years ago
Continue..
As for the resemblance of the child to its parents: If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble the father, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her." On that 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "I testify that you are the Apostle of Allah."
AkatsukiKanjiKana3 3 years ago
Now let's step into reality. How related we are to someone with our physical appearance is determined by how much of their DNA (Deoxyribo Nucleic Acid) we share. This has nothing to do with who got "horney first before the intercourse started", whether you mom or dad. We get half of our DNA from mother and half from father. DNA contains all of the instructions for making you. And most of these instructions come in the form of genes. Genes control obvious things like eye shape and hair color etc.
AkatsukiKanjiKana3 3 years ago
HIS voice is so annoying
feliciofeliz 3 years ago
why dont you just post the whole video
someone will do it sooner or later
xrillionaire 3 years ago
Well he got one thing right, He does have a lot of 'issues'
FEChariot 3 years ago
fuck off bro
pipesandsnares 3 years ago
There is nothing quite like the etiquette of the religious.
FEChariot 3 years ago
I'm an atheist
pipesandsnares 3 years ago
What's with the rude comment then?
FEChariot 3 years ago
I was boored:P
pipesandsnares 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
koran might be worst than bible in its non sense and white noise.
billjesusgates 3 years ago
Clearly you are a person who has never read the Holy Quran. If you really want to give an opinion, why dont you read the Quran first with honesty and truth, and then give us your opinion. That is if you are a reasonable and an intelligent person.
hi101985 3 years ago 4