terran is ridiculously OP, MULES + a min dump unit (marine) that counters almost (if not) everything. terran can be so far ahead, sure, banelings counter rines but a terran can produce marines faster than a zerg can produce banelings and in the end rines come out on top
yes... terran often try to play up their "marine split micro", when 1. it's not difficult to grab rectangles off the bioball then stutterstepping them away, and repeat a couple of times.
2. zerg need to split banelings and micro mutas, and make sure zerglings are going to the right targets.
This looks about like every DeMuslim v Z video: major fail early. remembers he can just turtle. owns with marine micro. wait for zerg to suicide army.
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Zerg natural healing needs a MASSIVE buff! Protoss have nice shield regen and Terrans get medivacs. Who wants to cart around a bunch of queens with or without a creep highway?
@TheGiantKiller8 I'm not against your idea. In fact, I support it. It's a natural zerg hability, yet, only practical with burrowed roaches, which is just ridiculous. Buff please!!!
@Hulavuta zerg is just limited even with good scouting its hard to counter mass siege tank + marines as zerg... vs toss a strong collosus/void ray ball i find is very effective vs zerg to
@TheGiantKiller8 I don't mean to go off topic of what you said but I rarely get an answer if I just comment. Do you know if you can carry queens inside of overlords?
Terran and protoss are great but zerg needs to be buffed, i think maybe if zergs natural healing rate were higher it would be more balanced since toss can recover shields quickly and terran can heal and repair, but zerg recover hp very slowly on top of that they have very low health!!! If they can regen quicker i feel it be more balanced
@TheGiantKiller8 I think Zerg is losing it's focus. Specially with HotS. I belive Zerg could be balanced with simple things: Make creep recede 2x slower when the source producing it dies; make creep cause a bigger dps against enemy buildings, and possible speed reduction to enemy non-zerg ground units. And for last, make the overseer contaminate hability to actually halt all the structure's funcionts (ex: Pylons would not power buildings, turrets would not fire).
@josecarlosamador Interesting conversation, i still like my regenaration idea better though since zerg have crappy hp and can be one shotted, mutas are expensive yet are owned by marines?? I like your point about creep ya maybe if creep spread faster and receded slower would be awesome. Also Zerg buildings die very fast if zerg buildings could regen quicker after an attack it would be more balanced since they have such low hp what you think
@Virility Maybe you should brush up on some of your pro games. MadFrog pulled a victory from TLO because of his burrowed banes. Husky cast the game himself.
@FlashPhantom90 Dude, that's like one game out of 20. Seriously, how many fucking times have you seen pro games won simply because of burrowed lings? It's almost never. Sure, you can cherry pick one or two games that are totally inconsequential in terms of league or tourney results. Hell, you might even find a couple from such venues. It cannot be disputed, though - that those are the VAST minority by a colossal margin.
So no, I don't need to "brush up on my pro games."
Hey Husky, have you played Mafia, the custom game on SC2. It's pretty fun, and was just curious if you knew about it. If not, you should check it out, I find it very fun.
that. game. was. SICK. husky, you're the best commentator, I just wish you would check the apm tab every once in awhile to see what they're at (maybe like twice a game?). Thumbs up if you agree and so husky can see it. :)
Husky, can you finish you series of sc1 ported into sc2? it's been a while and I keep checking your channel for when you will finaly finish it. Also, can you put them all in one playlist, thanks.
@towelslayer Idk if its related to fullscreen or not but I've been having problems with his videos lately too. They stop loading when paused and I can't play above 360p without buffering every couple minutes. Very frustrating!!
Taco bell only helped me to get my legit doctor note if I need one... That place is guaranteed to give you diarrhea two days straight for a cost of 59 cents.
@smexypapayas It's just that people don't think about them because they are pretty expensive but they are very powerful especially the mass of battlecruisers just like BW
@karnazacss Since SC2 came out, they nerfed Terran so much that it's definitely the least powerful race. The last thing stands for terran is the marine-medivac. If they are going to nerf that too, why bother? They can just take out terran as a race and be done with it.
@fflama1 I don't usually say this, its rare for me, I don't like to start flame wars, but this comment is the absolute dumbest thing I've read in a long LONG time. You HAVE to be joking, either that or your a low low low low bronze Terran player who just started playing the game and understand basically nothing.
@MrKevin486 You just gave me the dumbest reasoning (if I can call it that) I saw in youtube. So, no offense taken. Sorry for the failure of the public education system to teach you logic.
oh yeah, one more comment/question. anyone ever notice that at the end of a game, win or lose zerg always has higher units lost? doesn't necessarily mean imbalance, but it proves zerg has the weakest army. their only strength is recouping losses so fast. I assumethat's by design but shows how zerg needs more money to win (one base ahead)
@LittleZ1234554321 Yes but they are also the only race that can spawn like 90 worth of attacking units instantly late game if played correctly. It IS balanced because Zerg has the fastest, most instantaneous, unit production, so tier units need to be weaker overall. If you gave Zerg the same powerhouse units as Terran or let alone Protoss, no one would EVER be able to beat Zerg ever, it would literally be impossible after the 15 min mark.
@TheNSNproductions mass roach is not cost efficient against marines. esp upgraded ones with stim. ive tried many times. that's why the pros only go roach when there is mass hellion.
marines are versatile units that can be useful in most of the situations against a zerg. but they are definitely not op, since much too often do we see the scenario in which they are almost completely helpless when facing an army with decent number of infesters and/or banelings. whichever side may come out with an upper hand in such a scenario is usually decided by the execution taken place in just a few seconds time.
marines speed should be reduced, or/and build time. i believe that after building a ghoust acadamy or a starport or an armory the cost of the marine should go up to 60-65~ to reduce late game marine play. that would be a nice balance move by blizzard
to the people saying marines aren't overpowered... Yes you can micro marines to make them effective against banes, but then what micro can zerg do on banes to make them effective against micro'd marines? Only choice is to get investors to pin them down. Needing 2 units to counter one, is no counter. Tell me a single massed zerg unit that can counter mass marines. The only one close is banes, and with proper micro, even that is nearly impossible. Even mass ultras fall for god's sake.
Husky, I love your casting, but I think it would be better if you stayed more focused on the actual game and the players in the early game instead of just talking about whatever. I know the early game isn't always exciting, but you could at least discuss the map, build orders, etc.
BL could use a higher damage output or a tiny aoe splash because for a high tier unit they don't really shred through marines that well. But i could be saying that because i have a bias toward Zerg.
This is totally fucking absurd. How can anyone in their right mind not recognize how completely fucking jacked marines are? This entire match was dictated by a tier 1 unit. I don't even want to hear "oh he had thors, vikings, medivacs, ghosts, tanks" those units were, for the most part, inconsequential (with the exception of medivacs). Make no mistake about it, marines did 99% of the work here.
Marines fought off ling, bane, muta, infestor, brood lord.
@Virility think before commenting, sick of seeing people fly off the handle over this.. you're mistaking great micro from Demuslim and bad engagements from Catz as imbalance? did you miss the mutas flying face first into a line of missile turrets? bad engagement.. did you miss the amazing marine split against banelings? great micro
several time Catz engaged into a fortified position, throwing away units
this match was decided by who had better control, nothing else
@GraysenDT19 Think before commenting. I'm sick of people defending marines by saying it was their "micro" that did the work for them. Fucking don't be stupid. If I could micro lings to decimate a Terran army at a ridiculously cost-effective rate - lings would still be overpowered. Jesus fuck. The fact that you can micro marines like that and still do insane damage IS PART OF WHAT MAKES THEM OP.
Also, that one bad muta engagement at the Terran base, had zero impact on the outcome on the game.
As a very high level masters zerg player...i have to completely disagree with you on all counts- but i see where your frustration is coming from! The trick to destroying a marine-based army is to trap them with your zerglings(and/or infestors) and then roll in the banelings to decimate them. If the zerg gets the surround on the terran army, no amount of micro will be able to save them. PM me in game if youd rather have convo there- Outrageous 408
@Outrageouss2 I'm a master level Terran player. You're not going to surround me with lings on an engagement that I'm expecting. I'm the only Terran here who has the fucking balls to admit marines are a joke.
For the sake of honesty, I'll say I also play Zerg at master level. I know both sides of this coin. Marines are ridiculously strong. Think about it, it's a tier 1 unit that is a viable solution to the best a tier 3 zerg can throw at it. That's just bad fucking design - period.
@Virility While I dont believe your master lvl Terran AND Zerg at all in any way..I call BS unless you show me legit stats....I do agree with your comment however.
@MrKevin486 Why is it hard to believe someone is Master in two races? It's not a huge feat, it's not like it's GM or Pro-level. I have friends who are random players in Master leage, are they bullshitting too?
@Qwerty48121 You're a fucking idiot or you're trying to be obtuse. Marines can go up against EVERY tier 3 zerg unit. Just because lings can take out a thor doesn't mean it's equal to marines being a viable solution to ling/bane/muta/infestor/BL.
@Virility key word swarm... your complaining that marines can shoot mutalisks and broodlords... r u kidding me yeah if ur ground army is shit its called stim run under and fuck you over, no duh you're gonna complain when that happens. also. how the fck is a mrine a counter to infestors and banelings? seriously it doesn't take much to figure out how fungal growth works
@Qwerty48121 That's an absolutely terrible comparison. A Thor is a single massive unit. Zerglings are intended to be able to swarm down large single units like that. Marines are not intended to be able to comfortably kill every single zerg unit.
@FlashPhantom90 Give me a break. Burrowed lings are a gimmick at best. You shouldn't have to rely on the chance that *maybe* the opponent will a) not scan when they move out and/or b) will actually walk across your banes, or c) won't have a raven or the like.
99.9% of the time you won't see pro Zergs relying on burrowed lings to "prevent marines". That's just laughable.
@Virility you have zero idea as to what your talking about. the zerg player had just as many lings as demuslim had marines. and im not sure if you saw how well demuslim microed all his marines. if he just attack clicked his army yea he should have lost
@joeratti That's the point. He microed his marines. Marines are GOOD because you can juke them around like that, run n' gun, on top of their already insane dps, stim, and ridiculously cheap cost. Yes, he did a good job microing. THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES MARINES SO FUCKING GOOD. You add that to everything else, and they just fucking rape everything.
@Virility what u supposed to do microing zerglings... i mean the zerg had micro but not as much as needed by DeMuslim. dude seriously its called micro WINS BATTLES
@Qwerty48121 You are totally missing the fucking point. Being able to micro marines is ONE part of what makes them good. You can micro lings or banes like a god but they will never be as good as marines. I shouldn't even have to explain why.
Fuck me this is stupid. I play Terran - I know. There are pros who base their ENTIRE strategy around massing marines in the face of ling/bane/infestor/muta. Stop being blind to the obvious.
@Virility i think yoru missing the fucking point. WAHH I WANNA QQ SOME MORE cause blink stalker micro against roaches make them op right? based on what you think, your like o played terran for one game and i massed marines.. right no siege tank or medivac or viking support? expecially tvp no ghost support?, that slike saying massing lings all day. seriously, based on your logic, stalkers are also OP cause they can micro and kite
@Qwerty48121 I don't even know why I reply to you. You write like you're in 3rd grade and your arguments hold about as much weight as a fart in the wind. You are *almost* completely incoherent. Your inability to formulate a logical rebuttal to anything I've said makes me highly doubtful that you understand "my logic" with regard to this argument. So, crawl back in your cave, think it over a bit more, and come back when you make an iota of sense.
@Virility yeah I don't know either, are you saying that to make you feel warm and fuzzy? this isn't the opening of the game mmk? just cause you saw one game where marines were good doesn't mean they are OP. Maybe you just now decided to try and sound intelligent because you realized your logic was originally flawed. also you state "your logic" what logic? are you fucking serious? Just cause you have nothing to say to my arguments, you decide to try and demean my knowledge? hope you feel good
@Qwerty48121 I, and others here, have consistently shown where your arguments are utterly ridiculous. You've suddenly gathered some effort to write like a normal person now that you've been called on it, so I guess that's a step forward.
It's not just ONE game where marines dictate the outcome, even vs. T3 opposition, it's a consistent trend.
As per "my logic" that's what YOU called it, champ. Not me. I was only quoting what you said - so don't jump on me because what YOU say makes no sense.
@joeratti I'm fully aware of what I'm talking about. You, like a few others here, are missing the point. The ability to stim, juke, run 'n gun, micro, etc. etc. is part of what makes marines so fucking jacked. You can micro lings, banes, roaches, hydras until your fingers bleed and they will never be as effective as marines - period.
@Virility gl of rines vs banelings.... without freaken amazing micro, tanks are essential to ANY terran army to focus fire banelings... yeah why don't you play terran without any tank support, no medivac support, are you serious? tahts like saying that the zergling is overpowered, cause it has speed and crack and omg a ling army can destroy a lot of tanks so therefore they are OP? dude get back to bronze league
@Qwerty48121 lol dude tanks are not required to counter banelings. sure it helps a shit ton but you dont need to be a pro to split up marines. it would be pretty hard on creep, but that's why you deny tumors
@Ashadow700 cause its costs 200/200+ 100/100 to spawn + good players like Demuslim look at their minimap every second and instantly spot it and nythus got so little HP you can tak it out with just workers
TvZ is pretty broken in late game. Thors counter any mutas, vikings counter corrupters and brood lords, ghosts counter infestors and brood lords and ultras, marines counter lings and banelings, and medivac heal makes 1 marine the equivalent of 5. Doesnt matter if there are perfect fungal growths (assuming no emp is used) and then banelings on the clumped marines, Zerg just cant win. Terran is horribly imba in all matchups besides TvT. Only race that can stay on T1 all game and win.
@minjapenguin actually they do, but it works in phases. banelings counter marines until they have stim, but as soon as banelings have baneling speed they counter marines again. the unit upgrades "1up" them towarts their counter so to say.
terran is ridiculously OP, MULES + a min dump unit (marine) that counters almost (if not) everything. terran can be so far ahead, sure, banelings counter rines but a terran can produce marines faster than a zerg can produce banelings and in the end rines come out on top
FishTurd69 4 days ago
@FishTurd69
yes... terran often try to play up their "marine split micro", when 1. it's not difficult to grab rectangles off the bioball then stutterstepping them away, and repeat a couple of times.
2. zerg need to split banelings and micro mutas, and make sure zerglings are going to the right targets.
246trinitrotoluene 3 days ago
@246trinitrotoluene dont forget that seige tanks will still be active during all that
FishTurd69 3 days ago
@246trinitrotoluene
splitting banelings? you retard that requires like 5 apm, what are you bronze?
SG02JATT 1 day ago
@SG02JATT
tone down son.
because splitting marines is so hard with your patrol click. fucking pro man.
246trinitrotoluene 19 hours ago
@246trinitrotoluene
splitting marines is not easy.
if you dont do it properly you loose your entire army
SG02JATT 19 hours ago
Blue is OP
balzi76 4 days ago
DeMuslims micro is imba :O 1337
KenDM 1 week ago
BLU ftw!
masterprivate118 1 week ago
This looks about like every DeMuslim v Z video: major fail early. remembers he can just turtle. owns with marine micro. wait for zerg to suicide army.
san7420 2 weeks ago 5
@san7420
you're an idiot .
there is no major fail early u retard
SG02JATT 1 day ago
terran op
drmario110 2 weeks ago
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@TheStarcraftelites seriously??
truelegit11111 2 weeks ago
lol @ 11:18 what's that unit that looks like a terd?
coolbeanburrito 3 weeks ago
@coolbeanburrito a larva bro
4theswarm13 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
*SPOILER ALERT* stimpack marines own everything bls blings 5 marines > 100000000000000000000000 supply zerg they arent op at all
Darjaboo 3 weeks ago
@Darjaboo HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OPOPOPOPOP
WibbleSuper 3 weeks ago
Zerg natural healing needs a MASSIVE buff! Protoss have nice shield regen and Terrans get medivacs. Who wants to cart around a bunch of queens with or without a creep highway?
JavaJaxRex 3 weeks ago
Actually I playing Runescape with a broken hand once.
TheVolure 3 weeks ago
@TheVolure you dont need skill to play that game
MakerGamer 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
seems like zerg pros always loose outside of spanishiwa, buff zerg natural hp regen speed!!!
TheGiantKiller8 3 weeks ago
@TheGiantKiller8 I'm not against your idea. In fact, I support it. It's a natural zerg hability, yet, only practical with burrowed roaches, which is just ridiculous. Buff please!!!
josecarlosamador 3 weeks ago
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Hulavuta 3 weeks ago
@TheGiantKiller8 Wtf...don't put Spanishiwa as an exception. Spanishiwa is just as good/bad as the other pros...
Hulavuta 3 weeks ago
@Hulavuta zerg is just limited even with good scouting its hard to counter mass siege tank + marines as zerg... vs toss a strong collosus/void ray ball i find is very effective vs zerg to
TheGiantKiller8 3 weeks ago
@TheGiantKiller8 Um are you sure you responded to the right guy? I wasn't really talking about that...
Hulavuta 3 weeks ago
@TheGiantKiller8 I don't mean to go off topic of what you said but I rarely get an answer if I just comment. Do you know if you can carry queens inside of overlords?
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Nepto148 3 weeks ago
@TrynaBeeFunny you can fit 4 queens per overlord
Nepto148 3 weeks ago
@TrynaBeeFunny yes u can, and you can put them in nydus networks
TheGiantKiller8 2 weeks ago
@Hulavuta early voids to harass overlords and roachs then transition to immortal/collosi very powerful vs zerg unless they go mass mutas or corruptor
TheGiantKiller8 3 weeks ago
Terran and protoss are great but zerg needs to be buffed, i think maybe if zergs natural healing rate were higher it would be more balanced since toss can recover shields quickly and terran can heal and repair, but zerg recover hp very slowly on top of that they have very low health!!! If they can regen quicker i feel it be more balanced
TheGiantKiller8 3 weeks ago
@TheGiantKiller8 I think Zerg is losing it's focus. Specially with HotS. I belive Zerg could be balanced with simple things: Make creep recede 2x slower when the source producing it dies; make creep cause a bigger dps against enemy buildings, and possible speed reduction to enemy non-zerg ground units. And for last, make the overseer contaminate hability to actually halt all the structure's funcionts (ex: Pylons would not power buildings, turrets would not fire).
josecarlosamador 3 weeks ago
@josecarlosamador Interesting conversation, i still like my regenaration idea better though since zerg have crappy hp and can be one shotted, mutas are expensive yet are owned by marines?? I like your point about creep ya maybe if creep spread faster and receded slower would be awesome. Also Zerg buildings die very fast if zerg buildings could regen quicker after an attack it would be more balanced since they have such low hp what you think
TheGiantKiller8 3 weeks ago
TF2? Blu? the fk Husky. -1 respects.
paulo1ftw 4 weeks ago
It's true..I remember husky sippin on baja blast from Tbell back in the brood war days..
asignature22 4 weeks ago
JMU colors :)
blakeandersonJMU 4 weeks ago
We Lose
FreddyTheCupcake 4 weeks ago
Great game from Demu, he is the great English hope in the Korpulu sector!
KroemUK 4 weeks ago
haha love the tags "nerd" and "geek"
i should feel insulted but i cant.
manhaltdiefresse 1 month ago
Yet another zerg loss video.
SamRoads 1 month ago
Demuslim lost ability to lose I think
AsianSensationz 1 month ago
Note, I don't like getting three-pronged either...
DblDoseofThisPimpin 1 month ago
Red is best one in TF2
DarkAngelsKillAll 1 month ago
Roflmao. 0:45 - 1:32 is why I watch Husky more than any other caster.
Zeuts85 1 month ago
@Virility Maybe you should brush up on some of your pro games. MadFrog pulled a victory from TLO because of his burrowed banes. Husky cast the game himself.
FlashPhantom90 1 month ago
@FlashPhantom90 Dude, that's like one game out of 20. Seriously, how many fucking times have you seen pro games won simply because of burrowed lings? It's almost never. Sure, you can cherry pick one or two games that are totally inconsequential in terms of league or tourney results. Hell, you might even find a couple from such venues. It cannot be disputed, though - that those are the VAST minority by a colossal margin.
So no, I don't need to "brush up on my pro games."
Virility 1 month ago
@FlashPhantom90 That's kinda like saying that nukes are the counter to the protoss death ball.
Zeuts85 1 month ago
how come at 18:58 it said the zerg wasnt allowed to build pretty much anything?
donedat2 1 month ago in playlist More videos from HuskyStarcraft
there are plenty of things to do with one arm. ;)
FoxFire1281 1 month ago
Husky: "He jukes the linebacker, INTERCEPTION!"
Me: *Facepalm*
theMOCmaster 1 month ago 4
Marine walks into a bar. There was no counter.
TheSDM19 1 month ago
Hey Husky, have you played Mafia, the custom game on SC2. It's pretty fun, and was just curious if you knew about it. If not, you should check it out, I find it very fun.
fezman222 1 month ago
that. game. was. SICK. husky, you're the best commentator, I just wish you would check the apm tab every once in awhile to see what they're at (maybe like twice a game?). Thumbs up if you agree and so husky can see it. :)
kirbusmaximo 1 month ago
Demuslim's marine micro is absolutely disgusting...one of the best I've ever seen. So badass
MrKevin486 1 month ago
Husky, can you finish you series of sc1 ported into sc2? it's been a while and I keep checking your channel for when you will finaly finish it. Also, can you put them all in one playlist, thanks.
Shmulykas 1 month ago
Why are a lot of videos from Husky not working properly when fullscreen?
Or is it just me?
towelslayer 1 month ago
@towelslayer Idk if its related to fullscreen or not but I've been having problems with his videos lately too. They stop loading when paused and I can't play above 360p without buffering every couple minutes. Very frustrating!!
SgtSupremacy 1 month ago
@towelslayer Its just you
MrKevin486 1 month ago
so he fapped with his weak hand ?
5zidane6 1 month ago
You missed a dropp husky :S:S
Hreinn91 1 month ago
"It would be a bunch of popycock" MADE MY DAY HAHA!! :D
jokkeri555 1 month ago
Demuslims micro was boss that game. Keep these sorta games comin Husky.
CaptainJsc 1 month ago
Husky, are you sure he broke his arm? mabe he took an arrow to the knee?
XtraXtable 1 month ago
Taco bell only helped me to get my legit doctor note if I need one... That place is guaranteed to give you diarrhea two days straight for a cost of 59 cents.
FlyingPastaLin 1 month ago
@FlyingPastaLin
Lies, they give you deliciousness for 59 cents. with some obesity.
ProbableLoss668 1 month ago
@ProbableLoss668
lol, my friend survived on taco bell for 5 years and he's fat as a queen.
FlyingPastaLin 1 month ago
Husky your video volume is way low... ALso need moar game sounds in there plz.
HardBoiE 1 month ago
The protoss player wins.
pinkerton617 1 month ago
the he microed his macro and microed his micro
gogobonbom 1 month ago
any particular reason why battle cruisers and carriers seem to be very rarely seen? I remember a lot of carrier hoards in Broodwar.
smexypapayas 1 month ago
@smexypapayas It's just that people don't think about them because they are pretty expensive but they are very powerful especially the mass of battlecruisers just like BW
HyperionSc2 1 month ago
15:11
Husky: The planetary is up
planetary fortress: *nods*
ninjamaster224 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
omg blizz have to do something with marines-medivacs really...
karnazacss 1 month ago
@karnazacss Since SC2 came out, they nerfed Terran so much that it's definitely the least powerful race. The last thing stands for terran is the marine-medivac. If they are going to nerf that too, why bother? They can just take out terran as a race and be done with it.
fflama1 1 month ago
@fflama1 I don't usually say this, its rare for me, I don't like to start flame wars, but this comment is the absolute dumbest thing I've read in a long LONG time. You HAVE to be joking, either that or your a low low low low bronze Terran player who just started playing the game and understand basically nothing.
MrKevin486 1 month ago
@MrKevin486 You just gave me the dumbest reasoning (if I can call it that) I saw in youtube. So, no offense taken. Sorry for the failure of the public education system to teach you logic.
fflama1 4 weeks ago
Husky, you should get a BRO-STASH
nealnp 1 month ago
honestly whenever there's a terrain player in these videos I always hope he loses. medivac, marine and marauder makes me so mad sometimes
honkernoodles2 1 month ago
ahaha please dont ever make a football reference with sc2 xD
redhoodieboy 1 month ago
oh yeah, one more comment/question. anyone ever notice that at the end of a game, win or lose zerg always has higher units lost? doesn't necessarily mean imbalance, but it proves zerg has the weakest army. their only strength is recouping losses so fast. I assumethat's by design but shows how zerg needs more money to win (one base ahead)
LittleZ1234554321 1 month ago
@LittleZ1234554321 Yes but they are also the only race that can spawn like 90 worth of attacking units instantly late game if played correctly. It IS balanced because Zerg has the fastest, most instantaneous, unit production, so tier units need to be weaker overall. If you gave Zerg the same powerhouse units as Terran or let alone Protoss, no one would EVER be able to beat Zerg ever, it would literally be impossible after the 15 min mark.
MrKevin486 1 month ago
@TheNSNproductions mass roach is not cost efficient against marines. esp upgraded ones with stim. ive tried many times. that's why the pros only go roach when there is mass hellion.
LittleZ1234554321 1 month ago
if you love taco bell, you should try actuall tacos, they are waaaay better #truestory
Armanenn 1 month ago
marines are versatile units that can be useful in most of the situations against a zerg. but they are definitely not op, since much too often do we see the scenario in which they are almost completely helpless when facing an army with decent number of infesters and/or banelings. whichever side may come out with an upper hand in such a scenario is usually decided by the execution taken place in just a few seconds time.
Saediil 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
mmm noob that's all
SilverMeatMachine 1 month ago
To all the people saying that marines are OP, this is the same damn meta game that was in SC:BW marine-medic (T1,1.5) is a popular build against zerg.
On the other hand, zerg would use ultras and defilers in the late game, which are all T2-3 units...
SO STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT MARINES BEING OP, IT WAS ALWAYS LIKE THAT
shinmeiryuux 1 month ago
marines speed should be reduced, or/and build time. i believe that after building a ghoust acadamy or a starport or an armory the cost of the marine should go up to 60-65~ to reduce late game marine play. that would be a nice balance move by blizzard
Jonathangrinshpan 1 month ago
no one from eg really impresses me
QuailGang 1 month ago
Rocking marines from the beginning to the end
Antiteshmis 1 month ago
Husky in Tf2, Blue team are the better race but red have the better colour for Team Spirit
ubaubaguy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
to the people saying marines aren't overpowered... Yes you can micro marines to make them effective against banes, but then what micro can zerg do on banes to make them effective against micro'd marines? Only choice is to get investors to pin them down. Needing 2 units to counter one, is no counter. Tell me a single massed zerg unit that can counter mass marines. The only one close is banes, and with proper micro, even that is nearly impossible. Even mass ultras fall for god's sake.
LittleZ1234554321 1 month ago
@LittleZ1234554321 you sir got a brain
TehBoores6 1 month ago
@LittleZ1234554321 roaches in mass
TheNSNproductions 1 month ago
@LittleZ1234554321
trap the marines with zerglings, then bring in the banelings..destiny had a great video to demonstrate this
Outrageouss2 1 month ago
11:48 Still not the best muta contrOOOOOOOLLLLLNNNGGYAAAAAUUUHHHH
XenoPredator 1 month ago
People really cant handle a Terran winning a game, seriously this is getting ridiculous.
Yanate1991 1 month ago
blue is the superiur race ? :P
MegaHejhop 1 month ago
What map is this?
tristan2668 1 month ago
derp. Make planetary fortress, add a few turrets, and your expansion is immune to all attack short of a major, major push. Fucking OP Terrans.
P1zzaSH4RK 1 month ago
Husky, I love your casting, but I think it would be better if you stayed more focused on the actual game and the players in the early game instead of just talking about whatever. I know the early game isn't always exciting, but you could at least discuss the map, build orders, etc.
nkees 1 month ago
And btw ur mic voice is a bit low. I know i can put the voice up but everytime i need to put skype lower and u higher...
TheNoizeController 1 month ago
I HATE SPOILERS IN TOP COMMENTS!
TheNoizeController 1 month ago 37
@TheNoizeController Just as you load the video click the full screen button so you can't read the comments.
0Radex 1 month ago
terran is a joke...especially marines....
mokropsyable 1 month ago
BL could use a higher damage output or a tiny aoe splash because for a high tier unit they don't really shred through marines that well. But i could be saying that because i have a bias toward Zerg.
HawtStyle3000 1 month ago
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ManchaeleccaBlack 1 month ago
This is totally fucking absurd. How can anyone in their right mind not recognize how completely fucking jacked marines are? This entire match was dictated by a tier 1 unit. I don't even want to hear "oh he had thors, vikings, medivacs, ghosts, tanks" those units were, for the most part, inconsequential (with the exception of medivacs). Make no mistake about it, marines did 99% of the work here.
Marines fought off ling, bane, muta, infestor, brood lord.
Tier 1 unit vs. the entire Zerg race. wtf
Virility 1 month ago 10
@Virility think before commenting, sick of seeing people fly off the handle over this.. you're mistaking great micro from Demuslim and bad engagements from Catz as imbalance? did you miss the mutas flying face first into a line of missile turrets? bad engagement.. did you miss the amazing marine split against banelings? great micro
several time Catz engaged into a fortified position, throwing away units
this match was decided by who had better control, nothing else
GraysenDT19 1 month ago
@GraysenDT19 Think before commenting. I'm sick of people defending marines by saying it was their "micro" that did the work for them. Fucking don't be stupid. If I could micro lings to decimate a Terran army at a ridiculously cost-effective rate - lings would still be overpowered. Jesus fuck. The fact that you can micro marines like that and still do insane damage IS PART OF WHAT MAKES THEM OP.
Also, that one bad muta engagement at the Terran base, had zero impact on the outcome on the game.
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility
As a very high level masters zerg player...i have to completely disagree with you on all counts- but i see where your frustration is coming from! The trick to destroying a marine-based army is to trap them with your zerglings(and/or infestors) and then roll in the banelings to decimate them. If the zerg gets the surround on the terran army, no amount of micro will be able to save them. PM me in game if youd rather have convo there- Outrageous 408
Outrageouss2 1 month ago
@Outrageouss2 I'm a master level Terran player. You're not going to surround me with lings on an engagement that I'm expecting. I'm the only Terran here who has the fucking balls to admit marines are a joke.
For the sake of honesty, I'll say I also play Zerg at master level. I know both sides of this coin. Marines are ridiculously strong. Think about it, it's a tier 1 unit that is a viable solution to the best a tier 3 zerg can throw at it. That's just bad fucking design - period.
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility
Name and character code please, mine is Outrageous 408..i have a lot more to say, and this will be easier to talk about ingame.
Outrageouss2 1 month ago
@Virility While I dont believe your master lvl Terran AND Zerg at all in any way..I call BS unless you show me legit stats....I do agree with your comment however.
MrKevin486 1 month ago
@MrKevin486 Why is it hard to believe someone is Master in two races? It's not a huge feat, it's not like it's GM or Pro-level. I have friends who are random players in Master leage, are they bullshitting too?
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility did you know... that zerglings are a tier 1 unit... and thors are a tier 3 unit.... and zerglings can kill thors quite easily?
Qwerty48121 1 month ago
@Qwerty48121 You're a fucking idiot or you're trying to be obtuse. Marines can go up against EVERY tier 3 zerg unit. Just because lings can take out a thor doesn't mean it's equal to marines being a viable solution to ling/bane/muta/infestor/BL.
Idiot.
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility key word swarm... your complaining that marines can shoot mutalisks and broodlords... r u kidding me yeah if ur ground army is shit its called stim run under and fuck you over, no duh you're gonna complain when that happens. also. how the fck is a mrine a counter to infestors and banelings? seriously it doesn't take much to figure out how fungal growth works
Qwerty48121 1 month ago
@Qwerty48121 That's an absolutely terrible comparison. A Thor is a single massive unit. Zerglings are intended to be able to swarm down large single units like that. Marines are not intended to be able to comfortably kill every single zerg unit.
travtravhaha 1 month ago
@travtravhaha yeh it was a bad comparison =P
Qwerty48121 1 month ago
@Virility Buried banes prevent marines.
FlashPhantom90 1 month ago
@FlashPhantom90 Give me a break. Burrowed lings are a gimmick at best. You shouldn't have to rely on the chance that *maybe* the opponent will a) not scan when they move out and/or b) will actually walk across your banes, or c) won't have a raven or the like.
99.9% of the time you won't see pro Zergs relying on burrowed lings to "prevent marines". That's just laughable.
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility you have zero idea as to what your talking about. the zerg player had just as many lings as demuslim had marines. and im not sure if you saw how well demuslim microed all his marines. if he just attack clicked his army yea he should have lost
joeratti 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@joeratti That's the point. He microed his marines. Marines are GOOD because you can juke them around like that, run n' gun, on top of their already insane dps, stim, and ridiculously cheap cost. Yes, he did a good job microing. THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES MARINES SO FUCKING GOOD. You add that to everything else, and they just fucking rape everything.
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility what u supposed to do microing zerglings... i mean the zerg had micro but not as much as needed by DeMuslim. dude seriously its called micro WINS BATTLES
Qwerty48121 1 month ago
@Qwerty48121 You are totally missing the fucking point. Being able to micro marines is ONE part of what makes them good. You can micro lings or banes like a god but they will never be as good as marines. I shouldn't even have to explain why.
Fuck me this is stupid. I play Terran - I know. There are pros who base their ENTIRE strategy around massing marines in the face of ling/bane/infestor/muta. Stop being blind to the obvious.
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility i think yoru missing the fucking point. WAHH I WANNA QQ SOME MORE cause blink stalker micro against roaches make them op right? based on what you think, your like o played terran for one game and i massed marines.. right no siege tank or medivac or viking support? expecially tvp no ghost support?, that slike saying massing lings all day. seriously, based on your logic, stalkers are also OP cause they can micro and kite
Qwerty48121 1 month ago
@Qwerty48121 I don't even know why I reply to you. You write like you're in 3rd grade and your arguments hold about as much weight as a fart in the wind. You are *almost* completely incoherent. Your inability to formulate a logical rebuttal to anything I've said makes me highly doubtful that you understand "my logic" with regard to this argument. So, crawl back in your cave, think it over a bit more, and come back when you make an iota of sense.
Until then, you're wrong but too dumb to know it.
Virility 4 weeks ago
@Virility yeah I don't know either, are you saying that to make you feel warm and fuzzy? this isn't the opening of the game mmk? just cause you saw one game where marines were good doesn't mean they are OP. Maybe you just now decided to try and sound intelligent because you realized your logic was originally flawed. also you state "your logic" what logic? are you fucking serious? Just cause you have nothing to say to my arguments, you decide to try and demean my knowledge? hope you feel good
Qwerty48121 4 weeks ago
@Qwerty48121 I, and others here, have consistently shown where your arguments are utterly ridiculous. You've suddenly gathered some effort to write like a normal person now that you've been called on it, so I guess that's a step forward.
It's not just ONE game where marines dictate the outcome, even vs. T3 opposition, it's a consistent trend.
As per "my logic" that's what YOU called it, champ. Not me. I was only quoting what you said - so don't jump on me because what YOU say makes no sense.
Virility 4 weeks ago
@Virility others?
Qwerty48121 4 weeks ago
@Qwerty48121 Yep, go read.
Virility 4 weeks ago
@joeratti I'm fully aware of what I'm talking about. You, like a few others here, are missing the point. The ability to stim, juke, run 'n gun, micro, etc. etc. is part of what makes marines so fucking jacked. You can micro lings, banes, roaches, hydras until your fingers bleed and they will never be as effective as marines - period.
Virility 1 month ago
@Virility So are you arguing that Terran is overpowered, or just that marines are overpowered?
Zeuts85 1 month ago
@Virility gl of rines vs banelings.... without freaken amazing micro, tanks are essential to ANY terran army to focus fire banelings... yeah why don't you play terran without any tank support, no medivac support, are you serious? tahts like saying that the zergling is overpowered, cause it has speed and crack and omg a ling army can destroy a lot of tanks so therefore they are OP? dude get back to bronze league
Qwerty48121 1 month ago
@Qwerty48121 Again, you're an idiot. Way to totally miss the point.
Virility 1 month ago
@Qwerty48121 lol dude tanks are not required to counter banelings. sure it helps a shit ton but you dont need to be a pro to split up marines. it would be pretty hard on creep, but that's why you deny tumors
synemon 1 month ago in playlist More videos from HuskyStarcraft
@6:22 that helion has totally seen better days i mean it's always a better day when your entrails aren't strewn all over the place
chuckles731 1 month ago
got a question does demuslim also plays against protoss ^^ just saw him playin against zerg all the time ^^
DanybearPolakmc 1 month ago
Please for the love of god show the APM tab when you want to highlight a micro fight!
robolol 1 month ago
wow catz needed way more lings and banelings marines should NEVER be able to just run under broods like that
leftandrightnut 1 month ago
whoa sick micro from demuslim i didnt expect him to play that well
leftandrightnut 1 month ago
Upgrades Marines counter everything
pawlesslol 1 month ago
A Terran beat a Zerg??? OPOPOP omfg marines counter EVERYTHING!!! BLIZ fix ur game!!1111222
Yanate1991 1 month ago
@Yanate1991 but general w/l from TvZ is like 60% so...
santeenl 1 month ago
muslim wilding out on this game marine micro crazy ahahahha cool shit man keep it up STOMP THE ZERG!
Drpitar 1 month ago
fungle and banelings and u say marines are OP? srsly?
KKrigla 1 month ago
@KKrigla split > fungal & banelings. Oh right, they dont do that in bronze, sorry!
pawlesslol 1 month ago
@pawlesslol
trap with zerglings --> no split possible ---> banelings kill all.
Outrageouss2 1 month ago
@pawlesslol wouldnt know, i dont play sc2 due to technical limitations ;)
KKrigla 4 weeks ago
Why do Zergs so rarely use Nydus worm? O.o
Ashadow700 1 month ago
@Ashadow700 cause its costs 200/200+ 100/100 to spawn + good players like Demuslim look at their minimap every second and instantly spot it and nythus got so little HP you can tak it out with just workers
santeenl 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
A group of marines walk into a bar, but they couldn't order anything, because there was no counter.
aSp27710 1 month ago 162
@aSp27710 god created muta and then they killed him.
yellow6100 1 month ago
@aSp27710 what about banelings or fungus
kukukai1 1 month ago
@aSp27710 Banelings.
XenoPredator 1 month ago
catz was horrible
alfader1 1 month ago
ironic my favourite 2 colours are yellow and purple
DarKn0ObXD 1 month ago
The best marine control i've seen was Happy.
mrtherealfakevox 1 month ago
Not the best Muta controoooo...AAARRGGHHHHH...ol!
Cain3697 1 month ago
zerg would have won if he killed the medveds with his muta during that engage
AiyaSianZ 1 month ago
Fucking marines are broken.
MajorKabong 1 month ago
@MajorKabong Not really, good luck trying to micro all those marines in the heat of battle.
SkittlesShott 1 month ago
I LOVE TACO BELL TOO!
therunnerdrew 1 month ago
hearing how red and blue wears on you wears on me... (: love you husky
therifleman62 1 month ago
TvZ is pretty broken in late game. Thors counter any mutas, vikings counter corrupters and brood lords, ghosts counter infestors and brood lords and ultras, marines counter lings and banelings, and medivac heal makes 1 marine the equivalent of 5. Doesnt matter if there are perfect fungal growths (assuming no emp is used) and then banelings on the clumped marines, Zerg just cant win. Terran is horribly imba in all matchups besides TvT. Only race that can stay on T1 all game and win.
inarush123456789 1 month ago
@inarush123456789 how the fuck do marines counter banelings??
minjapenguin 1 month ago
@minjapenguin banelings cant hit if you split, making rines very cost efficient.
s2Lildee 1 month ago
@minjapenguin actually they do, but it works in phases. banelings counter marines until they have stim, but as soon as banelings have baneling speed they counter marines again. the unit upgrades "1up" them towarts their counter so to say.
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