How to Talk End-of-Life Care with a Dying Patient - Atul Gawande

[evilelton]

I feel like this should be common sense for doctors. If this gentleman is talking about it, then it should be obvious that some doctors don't know the difference between treating a dying patient as a human being, and treating the patient as an assignment

[Primalxbeast]

There was a preacher in ICU when I came close to dieing once, but luckily he saw me laughing and having fun with my friends and left me alone.

[Primalxbeast]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3

After spending my whole life having people trying to cram their religious bullshit down my throat, if somebody started that crap on my deathbed, I'd castrate the bastard. If somebody religious is dieing, and their little fairytales make it easier to face death, let them have their delusion if it makes them feel better, but I wouldn't want to hear that crap, and don't even start on the burning in hell crap.

[Innerstorm3]

Strange. I have been told I am dying, and the last thing I need is to talk to some yuppie doctor about what I should do. Just let me go home and live what life I have left thank you very much. Who knows? I may outlive the young yuppie doctors.

[MultiUniv3rsal]

FORA this is your last chance. Put some worthwhile shit up or stop bothering.

You're spamming <5min clips 3 times a day. It's not cool.

[mrx0066600]

very interesting.

[dumbnetworks]

WTF is with this fora? they ask for money now? I say go fuck yourself!

[99minerkc]

@dumbnetworks You're right, there's a snowballs chance in hell before I would donate to them, I'll give to the local church instead!

[joebobfrank666]

@dumbnetworks

I think foraTV should charge for some of its better videos, in order to keep the service useable and mostly free.

However, what they should do is release all of the premium events for free a certain length of time after they're released; like a few months.

[S0chan]

Is it only me or do we see more and more videos from Fora with "Complete Premium video at" in the description?

[garith21]

@S0chan

Fora as far as I've known always has the complete video at their site, unless things have changed it doesn't cost a dime either.

[S0chan]

@garith21 "PROGRAM PASS: Watch individual Festival programs for 30 days from date of purchase for $4.95."

This doesn't look very free to me.

[garith21]

@S0chan

So I guess they changed it, I use to watch videos on Fora all the time for free, wonder when they changed it.

[S0chan]

@garith21 Unfortunately the indeed did change it at least a few months ago. Which as well greatly pains me as I also used to enjoy their materials.

Too bad.

[garith21]

@S0chan

oh well, guess I'm sticking to ted talks.

[FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3]

#1 how to get saved and live life eternally with the Lord Jesus Christ!

[truvelocity]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3 That's a passionate response but if you insult someone who doesn't have long to live, its not worth preaching to them.

[FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3]

@truvelocity wow your definition of insulting someone is diluted...all I did was state fact...but what else would I expect..what you just said is EXACTLY WHAT THE BIBLE said would happen...sooooo Hallelujah Jesus Lives!

peace and grace!

[S0chan]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3 Well, if lying to people about something you could not possibly know to make them feel better is your idea of "End-of-Life Care" than you are a pretty cruel person.

[FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3]

@S0chan You say this cause you are not thinking of things spiritually..so I guess I dont blame you for what you say..

Peace

[S0chan]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3 Thinking about things spiritually? What is that?

All I'm saying is that making claims about afterlife is never substantiated by any kind of evidence which mean is at best just causing wishful thinking and at worst is lying to someone by giving them false consolation. Which in my humble opinion is not very nice or a good or honest way to face your own mortality.

[Sinnessa]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3 What fact?

[truvelocity]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3 I never insulted you and your reply has nothing to do with me. You would be preaching Jesus and salvation to someone you most likely knew or who initiated it, right?

[Durchbrechen]

or how to get saved and live life eternally with Allah. I guess in a free society if a christian priest can talk with terminal illness, then the priests of other religions can do it as well. All together to increase the suffering of those who are dying.

[MatthiasVargas]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3 Or maybe not do that if they don't want that. End of life care needs to be catered to whatever religion they adhere to, or to no religion at all if that's their thing.

[garith21]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3

If you said that to me I'd lecture you at the absurdity of thinking that sort of belief system is just. Not to mention trying to be a vulture at the end of someone's life and trying to take advantage of an emotionally trying time is obscene even if you pretend to have good intentions as if to pretend that non believers have never heard anything about "being saved by Jesus Christ".

[runswithscissorsalot]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3 people like you believe that in order to live in the kingdom of heaven you have to accept Jesus. This is stupid. Because if it's true than god has and is still knowingly sentencing people to eternal damnation simply because they were born before Jesus' time, or that they have lived in a part of the world where no one has heard of him. Is this their fault? Accepting Jesus will not make you a better/happier person, it's the actions you take that do.

[mrx0066600]

@FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN3

um... don't.