now i like clinton, i like both bush's, now how come people dont talk bad about this like they do on all of bush video's about war and whatnot, how come people dont say clinton is a war criminal? how come people dont say he's a killer, how come people dont call him out like they did with bush? i like both guys and think they both did what they had to do, i kinda wish though that clinton took out saddam so that bush didnt have to do it in 03, does anyone realize that? or is it just me?
Clinton also bombed Bin Ladens asprin factory claiming he was producing WMD. After he got the headlines he wanted to keep Monica off the front pages he declined to have Bin Laden arrested claiming lack of evidence.
This guy did all this before he was president. The Jews knew it all, but wanted him for some reason. The ones he killed were his bodyguards and others that knew his business dealings. The guy screwed black prostitutes and had a child with one. He used drugs and was a draft dodger and had many killed like the Mahoney girl and Willie Brown, Google: Juanita Broadderick and read what he did and his whore wife threatened a woman to keep her mouth shut. It's time these bastards left and soon.
Um, he said they would work with the opposition forces. As opposed to, you know, launch a preemptive invasion. And that would have made him a hypocrite, if he had done that. Which he did not.
@joshatkins94 ''preemptive'' this war was a long time coming and should've been taken care of in 1992 and the US went into Iraq under UN resolution 1441.
@joshatkins94 I really can't stand UNDERINFORMED liberal morons like you. Of course Clinton's a hypocrite. Even though he said that he would not use American military forces, he ultimately did. The Clinton administration then launched a four-day bombing campaign named Operation Desert Fox, lasting from December 16 to December 19, 1998. For the last two years of Clinton's presidency, U.S. aircraft routinely attacked hostile Iraqi anti-air installations inside the Iraqi no-fly zones.
@joshatkins94 Morons like you should NEVER be allowed to vote. It's morons like you that help dishonest political scums like Clinton win the elections. Look up the bombing campaign named Operation Desert Fox. That took place under the order of the Clinton administration, and it had nothing to do with opposition forces. Clinton did ultimately use the American military force. So how can you say that he did not? You're clearly not reading newspapers when he's the President. You IMBECILE.
@joshatkins94 Look up Bombing of Iraq (December 1998), you fucking idiot. That's ordered by the Clinton administration. We should change the laws just so liberal morons like you will never be allowed to vote again.
Now I see why Clinton is so popular. Idiots like you will believe whatever he says. LMAO
This 4 day bombing was a class example of a preemptive invasion. Of course morons like you will probably never understand that.
@joshatkins94 In the 90s, USAF warplanes patrolling Iraqi no-fly zones came under fire by SAMs and anti-aircraft guns from Iraqi troops almost everyday. This is an act of war against the USA. President Clinton ordered cruise missiles strikes on Iraqi command centers in Baghdad on June 1993 in retaliation for an attempted assassination by Saddam secret Agents on former President Bush Sr life while on a visit to Kuwait.
As for "preemptive" strikes, we went in 2003 Iraq under UNSC 1441 and 687.
The final death of liberal internationalism, in the mold of JFK, FDR, Truman, and the ascendance in the new liberal ideology of radical post modern Frankurt School dilectical relativism...or just hypocrisy under fire?
I do not agree with Clinton and Gore's assessment. Though all must remember that Clinton and Gore, had the good sense to follow GHW. Bush's policy of NOT taking over Iraq.
These three knew that a full scale take over of Iraq would have been a disaster as we have now seen.
So Bush never lied, he was going by the same intelligence Clinton had. Saddam knew his time was going to be up, so the only thing any evil dictator would do is either sell his arsenol and hope to make it out alive or hand them over to Al Qaeda and hope they destroy America with it.
@USSSANJACINTO That's pretty much about it. However, some RETARDED liberals insist that Cliton did not lie, but George W Bush did. I'm just speechless.
@USSSANJACINTO Saddam broke up his stock pile of WMD and scattered it around Iraq. So now Iraq is a WMD junk yard with filled and unfilled chemical shells littering the place and we will probably never find them all.
Um we won the "quagmire." Presidents don't win wars. The U.S. military win wars. I know. I'm a Corpsman in the Navy. We're goddamn good at it. Period.
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thats how a president is suposed talk .he dosent sound like hes trying to fuck you over. bill sound like he know whats best. he inspires in his speaches. theres more talking about peace of iraqs region there nabors and the world .bush was all about scaring people he kept saying theres weapons of mass distructioin and no one was safe it just felt like one big trick
What I'm concerned with is. Where are those weapons right now? If we haven't recovered them someone has them and probably will use them. Now that we are in Iraq and spent all that money we might as well finish the job. I think it would be unrealistic and stupid to just pull out all those troops out at this point. Iraq has the second largest oil reserve in the world to my understanding which is what I still think is the real reason for the war though.
Do you really think that in a nation of terrorists, we'd really tell them (hey, lookie here, we got WMDs). It's a breach in security. Best if they don't know.
Plus, Saddam used them against the Kurds in Northern Iraq
Why can't you all accept the fact the Saddam did have the weapons, but when a republican president stopped the threats and actually put his money where his mouth was, then all of the sudden everybody started accusing him of lying simply because he belonged to another political party?
Democrats = Republicans = warfare/welfare state. Albright thought the UN sanctions that resulted in 500,000 Iragi children dying was "worth it". She is now one of Obama's foreign policy advisors. Obama is now the standardbearer for our warring empire.
The day the war on Iraq was declared. If it was Al Gore who won the election, then it would of been Al Gore who would of taken us to Iraq. Both Republican and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. They offer no real choice and they're both controlled by AIPAC.
I doubt this two party system will ever give us a real candidate and I doubt Al Gore as wel. There are also very few whom I trust to do the right thing against AIPAC and these are: Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, and Mike Gravel. I heard Obama will get us out of Iraq immediately but 16 months is not immediately nor adopting changes according to the military needs in Iraq. Instead it's better for the first troops to arrive within the first month in office. That no military bases are to be left in Iraq
To the people calling Clinton a hypocrite, and who support the current Iraq War, did you applaud Clinton for his actions in Iraq at this time and say that anyone who questioned him or his actions was an unpatriotic America hater?
I think people were more forgiving of Clinton's Iraq actions because unlike Bush's, they didn't result in Iraq tearing itself apart through civil war.
The biggest supporters of the Iraq Liberation Act were and are the members of the unelected think tank Project for a New American Century, whose membership consists mostly of Jews.
Oh and I'm sure you stood up and applauded Clinton at this time and called anyone that questioned this move an unamerican troop hater like you repubs do today. Your the hypocrite. Clinton had the vision George "Double U Over" Bush lacked. GWB's bull in a china shop approach has cost use 30,000+ casualties and $500 Billion. It amazes me that repubs are still more annoyed that Clinton got sucked off than that thousands have died in a war that never need to be fought.
Clinton recognized that Saddam was bad but wasn't stupid enough to waste the resources of the greatest country in the world to swat such a feeble gadfly. That's presidential leadership. What a great man, by far the greatest president of the second half of the 20th century. God I wish it was the 90's again when our government lived within its means and didn't run off on cowboy bronco busts that waste our taxes and our citizens lives to help people that resent us already.
Just admit the hypocracy and move on. You libs just don't seem to be able to take responsibility. Yes, the war in Iraq has not worked out as planned, but it was good idea.
The war wasn't a good idea, it's nearly impossible to control that region because of the idealogical difference between the groups that live there. However, how the hell was Clinton the best president of the second half of the 20th century? What did he do? He didn't invade Iraq? Neither did George Bush (the first one), he refused to invade because he knew that we couldn't control the region and decided to keep Saddam contained instead (which worked pretty well).
ltsmash1200, you are right, Clinton attacked Iraq with an airstrike in 1998. Still a form of invasion though. I think it was a much needed attack but I wish clinton had finished the job back when we had more public support and reasoning for an invasion. (Iraq removed the U.N. inspectors and broke a treaty, the only reason for war we should've ever needed).
The difference is the everyone except for Bush and his thugs understood that while Saddam was a rascal, he did NOT pose and imminent threat to the US and did not attack him. That burden is for bush to bear by himself.
@nishantjbhajaria Well, George W Bush took over the White House AFTER Bill Clinton. So during the Clinton era, the media agree with Clinton that Saddam's the bad guy, and it's OK for Clinton to attack Iraq (a classic example will be Bombing of Iraq (December 1998)). And yet, later during the Bush era, Saddam's not as dangerous? LMAO Keep it up morons, when this country fails, BLAME yourselves. LMAO. God Bless Russia and China. Americans are just becoming more and more stupid every year.
Clinton has NO honor and only lies until popular opinion changes so then his lies change?... Only Clinton can take both sides of any story and be lying both times?
When we compare Clinton and Bush's handling of Iraq we must remember that Bush had 9/11 and Clinton didn't. If you look at the way Bush handled Iraq before 9/11 you'll see that it was no different than what Clinton was doing. If Bush or Clinton had tried to invade Iraq without a 9/11, people would have been all "What the fuck are you doing?".
@BlueEchidnaGirl i kinda wish that when clinton went into iraq he finished the job though, do you realize that if clinton took out saddam, most likely bush wouldnt of had to go in 03, i dont get it, people love clinton, i like him to, but people love him, and yet they hate bush for doing what clinton was saying to do back in the 90's, its kinda crazy
Abraham Lincoln started a war of agression, invaded the South, and cost the lives of more Americans than all other wars combined yet today Lincoln is a hero because he liberated slaves. Is this not the case in Iraq? Did not Bush liberate the people of Iraq? Why do liberals oppose Bush now but supported Clinton and Lincoln?
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Lincoln was a racist and a tyrannical dictator who slaughtered 650,000 Americans. If he was so adament about freeing the slaves, why'd he wage a war to do it when all the other countries around the world bought the slaves their freedom?
The Civil War was not focused on freeing the slaves, it was focused on preserving the Union. With the South willing and wanting to secede from the Union, Lincoln saw that war was the only option and that slavery was separating the the North and South and tearing the nation apart. Buying the slaves would have done little to protect and preserve the Union, and war was the last option.
@PopularHypocrisy yeah, I already knew that. My question was more rhetorical than anything else. My point still stands: Lincoln was a tyrannical dictator.
@PopularHypocrisy I was about to disagree with you but.. history shows the truth. And the truth is the south wanted to keep their slaves and were not willing to sell them to begin with. Even if they were offered 20X the value of their slaves the south would of still not agreed; it was about keeping the slaves and maintaining the balance of power or all out war.
@deceiver123m The truth is washington dc was built by all slaves. The civil war was about gold and the paper dollar. The southern states did not want paper currancy as printed currancy is controlled by one.
@MILLSTREETMED bullshit! It was about ''state right's''. The right of the state to decide wether or not they wanted to keep slaves. half of the country was a slave country and the other half wasn't. A confrontation was inevitable.
@moh490234890238490 abraham lincoln was a known racist and yes the white house was built with slave labor moron. stop spouting government agenda loser.
@MILLSTREETMED ''abraham lincoln was a known racist and yes the white house was built with slave labor moron. stop spouting government agenda loser.'' He started out as a racist, but wasn't anymore. Fuck the south you bitch ass losers.
"The Iraq Liberation Plan"! This is 1998 when the liberals all believed Saddam was a threat to the world! But not when President Bush finally said Saddam's time has run out and that was after 911!
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Well, perhaps people were a bit more forgiving of Clinton's policy on Iraq because, unlike Bush's policy, it did NOT result in Iraq tearing itself apart, the different groups in a civil war, trillions of taxpayer dollars wasted, 4000 dead US troops, 30000 wounded US troops, and it had an exit strategy.
Really? If there were no WMDs then the Clintons and Gore did a STELLAR job of helping to set up the environment of fear that made the Iraq invasion politically possible.
Trying to pawn it all off on the Bush administration is intellectually dishonest.
Clinton failed to act decisively to head off the blossoming crisis, and Bush failed to use the military appropriately. SO BOTH are at fault for the current situation in Iraq.
Time to stop pointing fingers and start working for solutions.
Clinton's acts were not decisive, and Bush damn sure as hell did not use the military appropriately. Using the military to make yourself and your corporate buddies richer isn't what I call appropriate.
There was no "blossoming crisis" in Iraq.
Clinton needed a distraction from the Lewinsky scandal, which the neo-cons inisted every possible waking moment on when it should have been between Bill, Hilary, and Monica.
According to the Clintons and Gore there WAS a blossoming crisis. The inspectors were being thrown out, and that was reason to believe the WMD programs would be cranked up again (a reasonable assumption in my opinion).
And trust me, I am no fan of Bush. I just get tired of the bullshit rhetoric painting Clinton as a patron saint and Bush as a total boob.
NEITHER of them did a good job. So caught up in partisan fighting that we repeatedly throw the baby with the bath-water.
I agree Clinton was corrupt and shady, but I view him as better than Bush mainly because he didn't start any unwinnable quagmires or turn the whole world against the US. He also gave a crap about fighting terrorism, despite what his revisionist opponents say to the contrary.
Though if there was a crisis it got a hell of a lot worse as a result of the invasion.
@Scotty7617 yeah but, clinton backed off of iraq instead of finishing it and taking out saddam, if clinton took out saddam then bush wouldnt of had to! how come people dont get that? and every president since bush 1 or even further wanted to take out saddam, but it took 3 presidents to finally take him out, he should have been taken out a LONG time ago, not in 03
When Bush won, in either years, you who did not like that protested, claiming unfair elections. Yet in 2006 when the Democrats took control, where were the protests? I thought that Bush and his people rigged every election?
To think that, Clinton would intentionaly make decisions that endangered the US, is insane. The same way to think Bush would do the same. Political views are just that, personal views, when you take them to a place of hate and violence, you are no better then the people we are fighting against.
Bill Clinton sold Nuclear reactors to N. Korea, and jet fighter technology to China. I do not think He did it hurt the US, no good Pres would., yet it does show that acting President make bad decisions, They all do and should not be blamed. If you chose to do so, you should not pick and choose, you shoudl blame all US leaders for their mistakes.
Also, republicans are consantly accused of racism,, this is bacjed by the actions of Trent Lott, and others. I do not blame you for thinking that. Yet how do you explain Sen. Byrd? He was a high ranking member of the KKK. Now he is a D-Sen. Where are the attacks. Oh yeah, Dems get a free pass, no matter what they say or do. Everone knows Hate Bush, and everything he does, yet remember to forget those on your side who supported him.
As a somewhat Republican, I do vote Democratic, depending on the person. I am from Chicago, and I did vote for Obama against Keys. Yet because Bush is President, I feel there is double standard. Look at Mark Foley, that scumbag tried to abuse his pages and should be punished, yet Gary Studds, a Democrat accually had sex with his pages and was given a medal and standing ovation. Do you not see the problem.
Please, look at Tom Delay, he was accused of taking money under the table, and he should be investigated, yet William Jefferson is allowed to remain in office and hold high positions. Do you not see the double standards. Please do not take this as partisan thing, both parties have their problems, and they should be held accountable for their actions regardless of party, yet they are not.
We may have different views and stances, but it is important that we put aside our hate and work together. I admit I have broadcasted hate and it is only because of frustration, too many elected people are given a free pass, due to media bias. CNN goes after republicans and Fox goes after Democrats. I do not care what party a person is from, if you break the law you should be punished.
I also want to say that I am not what you call a "neocon", I do have other views that go against the norm. Neocon means new conservative, which is me. I am not a person who hates. Please stop labeling me because of my views, you would hate it if I did the same. If you actually talked to those who are new and young conservative you would be surprised. There are those on the left who are socialist anti-American,, yet I don't think that everyone who has liberal views falls into that group.
Hey Stevenyou, while we might disagree on issues, I do want to thank you for serving this country. No matter what you think and what I think, the fact that we are able to do so, is because of people like you, who defend our freedoms, Once again thank you, I am sorry we disagree. Either way, you are a great American. No matter what your views are and what people might say to you, just remember that.
look dont confuse me for some liberal cheerleading clinton fan. he was a greedy liar just like the rest. i frankly think, though, that him and his cabinet would be keener to the lessons of vietnam to go into iraq. i mean even bush 41 didnt do it and he was right at the doorstep. no, this was a uniquely NEOCON move. i frankly dont think clintons group was bold or dumb enough.
(continued) As far as "if Clinton would have gone the course of Bush is sorely untrue." Sorry, don't believe it, I believe he would have. The words he is using in the vid is the same as Bush some years later, and the fact I was preparing to go in 1998 tells me a great deal that he would have. I doubt that he would have done any different, or could have been worse than Bush's war in Iraq.
listen we all know about clintons misadventures in iraq as well. when he was bombing targets in iraq during operation desert fox why wouldnt he prepare marine divisions for battle? seems like standard procedure when your bombing this guy and you want to contain possible (though unlikely since his capability to project conventional power was deteriorated) retaliation against, lets say kuwait.
digging up this video is such tomfoolery on the part of neocon bush lovers. the iraqi liberation act of 1998 was a non binding resolution, a pure sentiment, stating, essentially that sadaam is a dickhead, which of course was true. it was passed in order to show a token of support for the iraqi national congress, a sadaam opposition group. the idea that clinton would have- given the chance- taken the course that bush has, is sorely untrue. very deceptive on the part of popular hippocracy.
Well, regardless of it all. I was in the Marines in 1998 and my battalion was preparing to go to Iraq. We sent a platoon to the region, to get preparations set up for the rest of us. Though in the end nothing happened and platoon was sent back home few months later...
Regardless, of if did invade or did not invade, as much as a Clinton disliker, I do not hate the man, I would have still supported him, as I did in his other military ventures. I am not a Clinton fan, yet I am not afraid to admit I backed him when he was right. While I may not be a big fan, I do not hate the man, He did some good and should be respected for it. Yet he should be accountable for his wrong as should Bush.
stevenyou, wow the truth hurts doesn't? Clinton, your hero had the same views as the one you hate so much. So go on and abide by revisionist history, as long as it makes you feel good. Keep igorning the truth because you don't like it. Sorry but the fact is the truth is just that, the truth.
revisionist history...any other idiotic spin/buzz words from bush's limited vocabulary you'd like to toss in? so clintons my hero *sigh* i wont dignify that by addressing it. now on to you "point"; i will only respond to your incoherent blah blah blah by only asking you to do research, and maybe actually read what i wrote..
No, he wouldn't have, and that is not a attack against him. If Clinton attacked Iraq, the Republicans would do everthing in thier power to ruin it for him Both sides of the aisle have no respect for each other. Bush cannot do anything in order to protect us without Democratic objection. And it would be the same if roles were reversed. Look at Clinton, it is stupid that we let partisan views rule our lives. This will be the death of this country. And both sides are equaly responsible.
Now, i've come to realized that, over-throwing Saddam was not only planned by Bush.
BWMA65 2 weeks ago
now i like clinton, i like both bush's, now how come people dont talk bad about this like they do on all of bush video's about war and whatnot, how come people dont say clinton is a war criminal? how come people dont say he's a killer, how come people dont call him out like they did with bush? i like both guys and think they both did what they had to do, i kinda wish though that clinton took out saddam so that bush didnt have to do it in 03, does anyone realize that? or is it just me?
TheMattd546 1 month ago
Clinton also bombed Bin Ladens asprin factory claiming he was producing WMD. After he got the headlines he wanted to keep Monica off the front pages he declined to have Bin Laden arrested claiming lack of evidence.
KraZedSexPoodle 1 month ago
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This guy did all this before he was president. The Jews knew it all, but wanted him for some reason. The ones he killed were his bodyguards and others that knew his business dealings. The guy screwed black prostitutes and had a child with one. He used drugs and was a draft dodger and had many killed like the Mahoney girl and Willie Brown, Google: Juanita Broadderick and read what he did and his whore wife threatened a woman to keep her mouth shut. It's time these bastards left and soon.
amerikaiscommunist 3 months ago
Um, he said they would work with the opposition forces. As opposed to, you know, launch a preemptive invasion. And that would have made him a hypocrite, if he had done that. Which he did not.
joshatkins94 7 months ago
@joshatkins94 ''preemptive'' this war was a long time coming and should've been taken care of in 1992 and the US went into Iraq under UN resolution 1441.
moh490234890238490 7 months ago
@joshatkins94 I really can't stand UNDERINFORMED liberal morons like you. Of course Clinton's a hypocrite. Even though he said that he would not use American military forces, he ultimately did. The Clinton administration then launched a four-day bombing campaign named Operation Desert Fox, lasting from December 16 to December 19, 1998. For the last two years of Clinton's presidency, U.S. aircraft routinely attacked hostile Iraqi anti-air installations inside the Iraqi no-fly zones.
ttiiyy 5 months ago
@joshatkins94 Morons like you should NEVER be allowed to vote. It's morons like you that help dishonest political scums like Clinton win the elections. Look up the bombing campaign named Operation Desert Fox. That took place under the order of the Clinton administration, and it had nothing to do with opposition forces. Clinton did ultimately use the American military force. So how can you say that he did not? You're clearly not reading newspapers when he's the President. You IMBECILE.
ttiiyy 5 months ago
@joshatkins94 Look up Bombing of Iraq (December 1998), you fucking idiot. That's ordered by the Clinton administration. We should change the laws just so liberal morons like you will never be allowed to vote again.
Now I see why Clinton is so popular. Idiots like you will believe whatever he says. LMAO
This 4 day bombing was a class example of a preemptive invasion. Of course morons like you will probably never understand that.
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Hperman09 4 months ago
@joshatkins94 In the 90s, USAF warplanes patrolling Iraqi no-fly zones came under fire by SAMs and anti-aircraft guns from Iraqi troops almost everyday. This is an act of war against the USA. President Clinton ordered cruise missiles strikes on Iraqi command centers in Baghdad on June 1993 in retaliation for an attempted assassination by Saddam secret Agents on former President Bush Sr life while on a visit to Kuwait.
As for "preemptive" strikes, we went in 2003 Iraq under UNSC 1441 and 687.
Hperman09 4 months ago
The final death of liberal internationalism, in the mold of JFK, FDR, Truman, and the ascendance in the new liberal ideology of radical post modern Frankurt School dilectical relativism...or just hypocrisy under fire?
exrock712 1 year ago
and this jackass got the noble peace prize!
antekification 1 year ago
my birthday was november 15 1998 wow
lilt5754321 1 year ago
@lilt5754321 Mine's the 14th.
incrediblehulkmovies 1 year ago
This guy was just another puppet...
MariusLio 1 year ago
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Libertarian71776 2 years ago
I do not agree with Clinton and Gore's assessment. Though all must remember that Clinton and Gore, had the good sense to follow GHW. Bush's policy of NOT taking over Iraq.
These three knew that a full scale take over of Iraq would have been a disaster as we have now seen.
MeritisDE 2 years ago
So Bush never lied, he was going by the same intelligence Clinton had. Saddam knew his time was going to be up, so the only thing any evil dictator would do is either sell his arsenol and hope to make it out alive or hand them over to Al Qaeda and hope they destroy America with it.
USSSANJACINTO 2 years ago 9
@USSSANJACINTO That's pretty much about it. However, some RETARDED liberals insist that Cliton did not lie, but George W Bush did. I'm just speechless.
ttiiyy 5 months ago
@USSSANJACINTO Saddam broke up his stock pile of WMD and scattered it around Iraq. So now Iraq is a WMD junk yard with filled and unfilled chemical shells littering the place and we will probably never find them all.
KraZedSexPoodle 1 month ago
Um we won the "quagmire." Presidents don't win wars. The U.S. military win wars. I know. I'm a Corpsman in the Navy. We're goddamn good at it. Period.
jbhdva 2 years ago 2
Clinton lied, people died?
dicendimes 2 years ago
Clinton is simply a better LIAR.
(See the related videos)
TheMoravians 3 years ago
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thats how a president is suposed talk .he dosent sound like hes trying to fuck you over. bill sound like he know whats best. he inspires in his speaches. theres more talking about peace of iraqs region there nabors and the world .bush was all about scaring people he kept saying theres weapons of mass distructioin and no one was safe it just felt like one big trick
cliffjump08 3 years ago
Did you just not watch this video? He talked about WMD!
You would have supported the Iraq war if Bush would have had a (D) in front of his name.
That's sad.
bootyraider 2 years ago
This was filmed one day after my 15th birthday.
incrediblehulkmovies 3 years ago
What I'm concerned with is. Where are those weapons right now? If we haven't recovered them someone has them and probably will use them. Now that we are in Iraq and spent all that money we might as well finish the job. I think it would be unrealistic and stupid to just pull out all those troops out at this point. Iraq has the second largest oil reserve in the world to my understanding which is what I still think is the real reason for the war though.
enalvarado 3 years ago
Do you really think that in a nation of terrorists, we'd really tell them (hey, lookie here, we got WMDs). It's a breach in security. Best if they don't know.
Plus, Saddam used them against the Kurds in Northern Iraq
cfmonkey454 2 years ago
@cfmonkey454
True... The weapons that the US supplied Saddam during the Iraqi-Iranian war.. Iraq never had WMD factories
alshara3 1 year ago
What do you people expect? If you have the forces of good (the West) confronting evil (the terrorists), there is bound to be a clash.
riflekid44 3 years ago
Why can't you all accept the fact the Saddam did have the weapons, but when a republican president stopped the threats and actually put his money where his mouth was, then all of the sudden everybody started accusing him of lying simply because he belonged to another political party?
riflekid44 3 years ago 3
exactly.
Spideyfan117 3 years ago
Democrats = Republicans = warfare/welfare state. Albright thought the UN sanctions that resulted in 500,000 Iragi children dying was "worth it". She is now one of Obama's foreign policy advisors. Obama is now the standardbearer for our warring empire.
mgmd001 3 years ago
The day the war on Iraq was declared. If it was Al Gore who won the election, then it would of been Al Gore who would of taken us to Iraq. Both Republican and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. They offer no real choice and they're both controlled by AIPAC.
MetalJacket01 3 years ago
Al Gore protested the Iraq war. He did it when it was not the popular thing to do. I don't think he would have gone into Iraq.
ftblplya1 3 years ago
I doubt this two party system will ever give us a real candidate and I doubt Al Gore as wel. There are also very few whom I trust to do the right thing against AIPAC and these are: Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, and Mike Gravel. I heard Obama will get us out of Iraq immediately but 16 months is not immediately nor adopting changes according to the military needs in Iraq. Instead it's better for the first troops to arrive within the first month in office. That no military bases are to be left in Iraq
MetalJacket01 3 years ago
I think we need to finish the war. What he said he wanted has been done, we just need to keep security up.
Novaessrussia 3 years ago
To the people calling Clinton a hypocrite, and who support the current Iraq War, did you applaud Clinton for his actions in Iraq at this time and say that anyone who questioned him or his actions was an unpatriotic America hater?
Who's the real hypocrite?
Scotty7617 3 years ago
I think people were more forgiving of Clinton's Iraq actions because unlike Bush's, they didn't result in Iraq tearing itself apart through civil war.
Scotty7617 3 years ago
BTW what Clinton is advocating here doesn't sound anything like what Bush did in 2003.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
The biggest supporters of the Iraq Liberation Act were and are the members of the unelected think tank Project for a New American Century, whose membership consists mostly of Jews.
axltyler 3 years ago
Wow...sounds a little like George Bush. See what hypocrites democrats are. What a joke.
grayhuze 3 years ago 3
Oh and I'm sure you stood up and applauded Clinton at this time and called anyone that questioned this move an unamerican troop hater like you repubs do today. Your the hypocrite. Clinton had the vision George "Double U Over" Bush lacked. GWB's bull in a china shop approach has cost use 30,000+ casualties and $500 Billion. It amazes me that repubs are still more annoyed that Clinton got sucked off than that thousands have died in a war that never need to be fought.
CrazyRightWingNut 3 years ago
I agree with George Bush. I am just calling Clinton a hypocrate for his stance now.
grayhuze 3 years ago
Clinton recognized that Saddam was bad but wasn't stupid enough to waste the resources of the greatest country in the world to swat such a feeble gadfly. That's presidential leadership. What a great man, by far the greatest president of the second half of the 20th century. God I wish it was the 90's again when our government lived within its means and didn't run off on cowboy bronco busts that waste our taxes and our citizens lives to help people that resent us already.
CrazyRightWingNut 3 years ago
Just admit the hypocracy and move on. You libs just don't seem to be able to take responsibility. Yes, the war in Iraq has not worked out as planned, but it was good idea.
grayhuze 3 years ago
The war wasn't a good idea, it's nearly impossible to control that region because of the idealogical difference between the groups that live there. However, how the hell was Clinton the best president of the second half of the 20th century? What did he do? He didn't invade Iraq? Neither did George Bush (the first one), he refused to invade because he knew that we couldn't control the region and decided to keep Saddam contained instead (which worked pretty well).
ltsmash1200 3 years ago
Clinton didn't invade Iraq? Then what did he do on December 16, 1998?
genyav 3 years ago
I thought that was just air strikes, not actually ground troops invading.
Anyway that just goes to further my point about him being the best president of the 20th century.
ltsmash1200 3 years ago
******him NOT being the best president of the 20th century...
Ughh, that was probably the worst typo I've ever made.
ltsmash1200 3 years ago
ltsmash1200, you are right, Clinton attacked Iraq with an airstrike in 1998. Still a form of invasion though. I think it was a much needed attack but I wish clinton had finished the job back when we had more public support and reasoning for an invasion. (Iraq removed the U.N. inspectors and broke a treaty, the only reason for war we should've ever needed).
genyav 3 years ago
hypocrite
ProudofAmerica1 3 years ago 3
Amazing how todays Democrats will say ANYTHING to get the White House. EVEN when it will risk our National security.
LftBhndAgn 3 years ago 6
@LftBhndAgn
The difference is the everyone except for Bush and his thugs understood that while Saddam was a rascal, he did NOT pose and imminent threat to the US and did not attack him. That burden is for bush to bear by himself.
nishantjbhajaria 11 months ago
@nishantjbhajaria Well, George W Bush took over the White House AFTER Bill Clinton. So during the Clinton era, the media agree with Clinton that Saddam's the bad guy, and it's OK for Clinton to attack Iraq (a classic example will be Bombing of Iraq (December 1998)). And yet, later during the Bush era, Saddam's not as dangerous? LMAO Keep it up morons, when this country fails, BLAME yourselves. LMAO. God Bless Russia and China. Americans are just becoming more and more stupid every year.
ttiiyy 5 months ago
Clinton has NO honor and only lies until popular opinion changes so then his lies change?... Only Clinton can take both sides of any story and be lying both times?
FreedomsPatriot 3 years ago 4
too funny
VRWC01 3 years ago
hypocrite
IKILLDEMS 4 years ago 4
When we compare Clinton and Bush's handling of Iraq we must remember that Bush had 9/11 and Clinton didn't. If you look at the way Bush handled Iraq before 9/11 you'll see that it was no different than what Clinton was doing. If Bush or Clinton had tried to invade Iraq without a 9/11, people would have been all "What the fuck are you doing?".
BlueEchidnaGirl 4 years ago 4
@BlueEchidnaGirl i kinda wish that when clinton went into iraq he finished the job though, do you realize that if clinton took out saddam, most likely bush wouldnt of had to go in 03, i dont get it, people love clinton, i like him to, but people love him, and yet they hate bush for doing what clinton was saying to do back in the 90's, its kinda crazy
TheMattd546 1 month ago
Abraham Lincoln started a war of agression, invaded the South, and cost the lives of more Americans than all other wars combined yet today Lincoln is a hero because he liberated slaves. Is this not the case in Iraq? Did not Bush liberate the people of Iraq? Why do liberals oppose Bush now but supported Clinton and Lincoln?
RoyIngle 4 years ago
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Lincoln was a racist and a tyrannical dictator who slaughtered 650,000 Americans. If he was so adament about freeing the slaves, why'd he wage a war to do it when all the other countries around the world bought the slaves their freedom?
axltyler 3 years ago
The Civil War was not focused on freeing the slaves, it was focused on preserving the Union. With the South willing and wanting to secede from the Union, Lincoln saw that war was the only option and that slavery was separating the the North and South and tearing the nation apart. Buying the slaves would have done little to protect and preserve the Union, and war was the last option.
PopularHypocrisy 3 years ago
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TheEd78 1 year ago
@PopularHypocrisy yeah, I already knew that. My question was more rhetorical than anything else. My point still stands: Lincoln was a tyrannical dictator.
axltyler 1 year ago
@PopularHypocrisy I was about to disagree with you but.. history shows the truth. And the truth is the south wanted to keep their slaves and were not willing to sell them to begin with. Even if they were offered 20X the value of their slaves the south would of still not agreed; it was about keeping the slaves and maintaining the balance of power or all out war.
deceiver123m 1 year ago
@deceiver123m The truth is washington dc was built by all slaves. The civil war was about gold and the paper dollar. The southern states did not want paper currancy as printed currancy is controlled by one.
MILLSTREETMED 1 year ago
@MILLSTREETMED bullshit! It was about ''state right's''. The right of the state to decide wether or not they wanted to keep slaves. half of the country was a slave country and the other half wasn't. A confrontation was inevitable.
moh490234890238490 7 months ago
@moh490234890238490 abraham lincoln was a known racist and yes the white house was built with slave labor moron. stop spouting government agenda loser.
MILLSTREETMED 7 months ago
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@MILLSTREETMED ''abraham lincoln was a known racist and yes the white house was built with slave labor moron. stop spouting government agenda loser.'' He started out as a racist, but wasn't anymore. Fuck the south you bitch ass losers.
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TheEd78 1 year ago
"The Iraq Liberation Plan"! This is 1998 when the liberals all believed Saddam was a threat to the world! But not when President Bush finally said Saddam's time has run out and that was after 911!
TomCatScat1965 4 years ago 3
uh you mean Democrats..yeah
louie77 3 years ago 2
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Well, perhaps people were a bit more forgiving of Clinton's policy on Iraq because, unlike Bush's policy, it did NOT result in Iraq tearing itself apart, the different groups in a civil war, trillions of taxpayer dollars wasted, 4000 dead US troops, 30000 wounded US troops, and it had an exit strategy.
Scotty7617 4 years ago
who started it?
mike1111qq 4 years ago
The Iraq War? Bush and the ones pulling his strings, obviously.
Scotty7617 4 years ago
Really? If there were no WMDs then the Clintons and Gore did a STELLAR job of helping to set up the environment of fear that made the Iraq invasion politically possible.
Trying to pawn it all off on the Bush administration is intellectually dishonest.
Clinton failed to act decisively to head off the blossoming crisis, and Bush failed to use the military appropriately. SO BOTH are at fault for the current situation in Iraq.
Time to stop pointing fingers and start working for solutions.
conotoxin 4 years ago 5
Clinton's acts were not decisive, and Bush damn sure as hell did not use the military appropriately. Using the military to make yourself and your corporate buddies richer isn't what I call appropriate.
There was no "blossoming crisis" in Iraq.
Clinton needed a distraction from the Lewinsky scandal, which the neo-cons inisted every possible waking moment on when it should have been between Bill, Hilary, and Monica.
Scotty7617 4 years ago
According to the Clintons and Gore there WAS a blossoming crisis. The inspectors were being thrown out, and that was reason to believe the WMD programs would be cranked up again (a reasonable assumption in my opinion).
And trust me, I am no fan of Bush. I just get tired of the bullshit rhetoric painting Clinton as a patron saint and Bush as a total boob.
NEITHER of them did a good job. So caught up in partisan fighting that we repeatedly throw the baby with the bath-water.
conotoxin 4 years ago
I agree Clinton was corrupt and shady, but I view him as better than Bush mainly because he didn't start any unwinnable quagmires or turn the whole world against the US. He also gave a crap about fighting terrorism, despite what his revisionist opponents say to the contrary.
Though if there was a crisis it got a hell of a lot worse as a result of the invasion.
Scotty7617 4 years ago
@Scotty7617 yeah but, clinton backed off of iraq instead of finishing it and taking out saddam, if clinton took out saddam then bush wouldnt of had to! how come people dont get that? and every president since bush 1 or even further wanted to take out saddam, but it took 3 presidents to finally take him out, he should have been taken out a LONG time ago, not in 03
TheMattd546 1 month ago
And people still believe arab propaganda... retards.
Xeonise 4 years ago
Top ten my ass. People like you make me sick. Saddam was a peaceful man.
GravySuxBigTime 4 years ago
God this is the top 10 video's on youtube I am surprised it is not banned. Thank you SO much for posting this.
gravyfury 4 years ago 3
rock band karascene is on myspace
hotrod71jcd 4 years ago
When Bush won, in either years, you who did not like that protested, claiming unfair elections. Yet in 2006 when the Democrats took control, where were the protests? I thought that Bush and his people rigged every election?
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
To think that, Clinton would intentionaly make decisions that endangered the US, is insane. The same way to think Bush would do the same. Political views are just that, personal views, when you take them to a place of hate and violence, you are no better then the people we are fighting against.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
Bill Clinton sold Nuclear reactors to N. Korea, and jet fighter technology to China. I do not think He did it hurt the US, no good Pres would., yet it does show that acting President make bad decisions, They all do and should not be blamed. If you chose to do so, you should not pick and choose, you shoudl blame all US leaders for their mistakes.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
Also, republicans are consantly accused of racism,, this is bacjed by the actions of Trent Lott, and others. I do not blame you for thinking that. Yet how do you explain Sen. Byrd? He was a high ranking member of the KKK. Now he is a D-Sen. Where are the attacks. Oh yeah, Dems get a free pass, no matter what they say or do. Everone knows Hate Bush, and everything he does, yet remember to forget those on your side who supported him.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
As a somewhat Republican, I do vote Democratic, depending on the person. I am from Chicago, and I did vote for Obama against Keys. Yet because Bush is President, I feel there is double standard. Look at Mark Foley, that scumbag tried to abuse his pages and should be punished, yet Gary Studds, a Democrat accually had sex with his pages and was given a medal and standing ovation. Do you not see the problem.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
Please, look at Tom Delay, he was accused of taking money under the table, and he should be investigated, yet William Jefferson is allowed to remain in office and hold high positions. Do you not see the double standards. Please do not take this as partisan thing, both parties have their problems, and they should be held accountable for their actions regardless of party, yet they are not.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
We may have different views and stances, but it is important that we put aside our hate and work together. I admit I have broadcasted hate and it is only because of frustration, too many elected people are given a free pass, due to media bias. CNN goes after republicans and Fox goes after Democrats. I do not care what party a person is from, if you break the law you should be punished.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
I also want to say that I am not what you call a "neocon", I do have other views that go against the norm. Neocon means new conservative, which is me. I am not a person who hates. Please stop labeling me because of my views, you would hate it if I did the same. If you actually talked to those who are new and young conservative you would be surprised. There are those on the left who are socialist anti-American,, yet I don't think that everyone who has liberal views falls into that group.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
Hey Stevenyou, while we might disagree on issues, I do want to thank you for serving this country. No matter what you think and what I think, the fact that we are able to do so, is because of people like you, who defend our freedoms, Once again thank you, I am sorry we disagree. Either way, you are a great American. No matter what your views are and what people might say to you, just remember that.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
CLINTON LIED
PEOPLE DIED
Now what do you leftist America hating losers have to say about that?
Kill yourselves!
G W is GOD!!!
GWisGod 4 years ago
Thanks for removing Saddam Hussein only
Hancerlioglu 4 years ago
look dont confuse me for some liberal cheerleading clinton fan. he was a greedy liar just like the rest. i frankly think, though, that him and his cabinet would be keener to the lessons of vietnam to go into iraq. i mean even bush 41 didnt do it and he was right at the doorstep. no, this was a uniquely NEOCON move. i frankly dont think clintons group was bold or dumb enough.
stevenyou 4 years ago
so they knew what needed to be done but just bitched out and held off long enough to leave the dirty work to another president.... i get it.
Buried3030 4 years ago 2
(continued) As far as "if Clinton would have gone the course of Bush is sorely untrue." Sorry, don't believe it, I believe he would have. The words he is using in the vid is the same as Bush some years later, and the fact I was preparing to go in 1998 tells me a great deal that he would have. I doubt that he would have done any different, or could have been worse than Bush's war in Iraq.
sliver01 4 years ago
listen we all know about clintons misadventures in iraq as well. when he was bombing targets in iraq during operation desert fox why wouldnt he prepare marine divisions for battle? seems like standard procedure when your bombing this guy and you want to contain possible (though unlikely since his capability to project conventional power was deteriorated) retaliation against, lets say kuwait.
stevenyou 4 years ago
digging up this video is such tomfoolery on the part of neocon bush lovers. the iraqi liberation act of 1998 was a non binding resolution, a pure sentiment, stating, essentially that sadaam is a dickhead, which of course was true. it was passed in order to show a token of support for the iraqi national congress, a sadaam opposition group. the idea that clinton would have- given the chance- taken the course that bush has, is sorely untrue. very deceptive on the part of popular hippocracy.
stevenyou 4 years ago
Well, regardless of it all. I was in the Marines in 1998 and my battalion was preparing to go to Iraq. We sent a platoon to the region, to get preparations set up for the rest of us. Though in the end nothing happened and platoon was sent back home few months later...
sliver01 4 years ago
yes, that's because Wolfowitz and others had written a letter to Clinton urging him to invade, and later he decided not to
masudrules 4 years ago
Regardless, of if did invade or did not invade, as much as a Clinton disliker, I do not hate the man, I would have still supported him, as I did in his other military ventures. I am not a Clinton fan, yet I am not afraid to admit I backed him when he was right. While I may not be a big fan, I do not hate the man, He did some good and should be respected for it. Yet he should be accountable for his wrong as should Bush.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
I agree, he should be accountable, I never said he shouldn't, I just said he would have done a better job, that's all
masudrules 4 years ago
stevenyou, wow the truth hurts doesn't? Clinton, your hero had the same views as the one you hate so much. So go on and abide by revisionist history, as long as it makes you feel good. Keep igorning the truth because you don't like it. Sorry but the fact is the truth is just that, the truth.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago
revisionist history...any other idiotic spin/buzz words from bush's limited vocabulary you'd like to toss in? so clintons my hero *sigh* i wont dignify that by addressing it. now on to you "point"; i will only respond to your incoherent blah blah blah by only asking you to do research, and maybe actually read what i wrote..
stevenyou 4 years ago
I'm not a partisan of either bush or clinton, but if clinton would have invaded he probably would have done a much better job in the reconstruction
masudrules 4 years ago
No, he wouldn't have, and that is not a attack against him. If Clinton attacked Iraq, the Republicans would do everthing in thier power to ruin it for him Both sides of the aisle have no respect for each other. Bush cannot do anything in order to protect us without Democratic objection. And it would be the same if roles were reversed. Look at Clinton, it is stupid that we let partisan views rule our lives. This will be the death of this country. And both sides are equaly responsible.
MihelicJ1977 4 years ago